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January 08, 2013, 05:22:51 PM
#32
Uh oh. I think someone saw an episode of the GI Joe cartoon from the 80s and mistook it for a documentary Sad

Cobra was just make-believe imo.
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January 08, 2013, 05:13:39 PM
#31
So, you're saying that if the US government had a hurricane machine, other governments would pick a fight with them?

No, I'm saying that if the US government had a hurricane machine, other countries would know it, and if US used it against its own citizens, other countries would have huge front-page headlines about how awful the US government is, and huw much better Russia/China/Iran/France/Whatever is.

I am not saying their is or is not a weather machine.   But, why would you think automatically other governments would know it?
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January 08, 2013, 04:54:05 PM
#30
So, you're saying that if the US government had a hurricane machine, other governments would pick a fight with them?

No, I'm saying that if the US government had a hurricane machine, other countries would know it, and if US used it against its own citizens, other countries would have huge front-page headlines about how awful the US government is, and huw much better Russia/China/Iran/France/Whatever is.
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January 08, 2013, 01:59:49 PM
#29
What I am saying is if you are going to take on speculation like this, you need hard tangible evidence or all you have is a good story.

The prediction is interesting, but not in itself proof. After all, how many people make predictions every day that never come true? Finding one that did is like finding a few dice that came up six after dumping a couple hundred on the table. But saying that it's just a weather forecast is equally fallacious.

I said it "could" be.  
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January 08, 2013, 01:54:32 PM
#28
What I am saying is if you are going to take on speculation like this, you need hard tangible evidence or all you have is a good story. 

The prediction is interesting, but not in itself proof. After all, how many people make predictions every day that never come true? Finding one that did is like finding a few dice that came up six after dumping a couple hundred on the table. But saying that it's just a weather forecast is equally fallacious.
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January 08, 2013, 01:45:49 PM
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This could be a long-range weather forecast as well.   

Like this one?

http://www.tropicalstormrisk.com/docs/TSRATLForecastAug2012.pdf

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TSR continues to predict the 2012 Atlantic hurricane season will see activity close to the long-term
 (1950-2011) norm. TSR reduces its forecast for US landfalling hurricane activity to 10% below-
       norm. The precision of TSR’s early August outlooks for Atlantic hurricane activity
                                   for the past decade is good.


There may be even more accurate forecasts that are not disclosed publicly.  What we should not do is get off on some tangent like this with pretty flimsy evidence.  I agree the timely is quite interesting but if that is all we have, might as well move on.  Too many dead-ends.  Instead we should be talking about real issues that we can actually do something about.

So, your defense against allegations of a cover-up is... a possible cover-up.

I agree though that this is hacking at the branches.

No defense.  What I am saying is if you are going to take on speculation like this, you need hard tangible evidence or all you have is a good story.  That is why investigations are essential and archiving information & evidence as soon as it happens is crucial to build a case.
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January 08, 2013, 01:39:04 PM
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This could be a long-range weather forecast as well.   

Like this one?

http://www.tropicalstormrisk.com/docs/TSRATLForecastAug2012.pdf

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TSR continues to predict the 2012 Atlantic hurricane season will see activity close to the long-term
 (1950-2011) norm. TSR reduces its forecast for US landfalling hurricane activity to 10% below-
       norm. The precision of TSR’s early August outlooks for Atlantic hurricane activity
                                   for the past decade is good.


There may be even more accurate forecasts that are not disclosed publicly.  What we should not do is get off on some tangent like this with pretty flimsy evidence.  I agree the timely is quite interesting but if that is all we have, might as well move on.  Too many dead-ends.  Instead we should be talking about real issues that we can actually do something about.

So, your defense against allegations of a cover-up is... a possible cover-up.

I agree though that this is hacking at the branches.
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January 08, 2013, 01:23:03 PM
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This could be a long-range weather forecast as well.   

Like this one?

http://www.tropicalstormrisk.com/docs/TSRATLForecastAug2012.pdf

Quote
TSR continues to predict the 2012 Atlantic hurricane season will see activity close to the long-term
 (1950-2011) norm. TSR reduces its forecast for US landfalling hurricane activity to 10% below-
       norm. The precision of TSR’s early August outlooks for Atlantic hurricane activity
                                   for the past decade is good.


There may be even more accurate forecasts that are not disclosed publicly.  What we should not do is get off on some tangent like this with pretty flimsy evidence.  I agree the timely is quite interesting but if that is all we have, might as well move on.  Too many dead-ends.  Instead we should be talking about real issues that we can actually do something about.
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January 08, 2013, 01:15:22 PM
#24
This could be a long-range weather forecast as well.   

Like this one?

http://www.tropicalstormrisk.com/docs/TSRATLForecastAug2012.pdf

Quote
TSR continues to predict the 2012 Atlantic hurricane season will see activity close to the long-term
 (1950-2011) norm. TSR reduces its forecast for US landfalling hurricane activity to 10% below-
       norm. The precision of TSR’s early August outlooks for Atlantic hurricane activity
                                   for the past decade is good.
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January 08, 2013, 01:14:19 PM
#23
Zero evidence except a story written on reddit.

...written a month before the hurricane.

This could be a long-range weather forecast as well.   

Do you know of any models capable of predicting accurately a week in advance, much less a month? Too many unknown variables.
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January 08, 2013, 01:08:49 PM
#22
Zero evidence except a story written on reddit.

...written a month before the hurricane.

This could be a long-range weather forecast as well.   
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January 08, 2013, 01:05:15 PM
#21
I wonder if this is what Tesla had in mind when he worked on this technology.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26YLehuMydo
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January 08, 2013, 01:01:24 PM
#20
Zero evidence except a story written on reddit.

...written a month before the hurricane.
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January 08, 2013, 12:53:07 PM
#19
Zero evidence except a story written on reddit.  Silly.

Yes climate engineering (geo-engineering) is real and maybe they have been weaponized.
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January 08, 2013, 12:21:28 PM
#18
So, you're saying that if the US government had a hurricane machine, other governments would pick a fight with them?

Well, when you put it that way... Wink

But seriously, how many Russian citizens are actually in danger from a hurricane?
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January 08, 2013, 12:12:06 PM
#17
So, you're saying that if the US government had a hurricane machine, other governments would pick a fight with them?
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January 08, 2013, 11:51:16 AM
#16
Please always keep in mind that the US government is not the only government in the entire world, that the US government has many enemies, and that those enemies have a lot of spies and espionage programs around US (including foreign satellites and monitoring outposts). If anything like what you are claiming were to be true, you would be sure to hear about it from other countries who would try to use it to demonize the US even more.
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January 08, 2013, 11:40:31 AM
#15
Show me proof that someone can create a storm out of nothing, then direct the path and strength of it, and maybe I'll believe you.

http://www.infowars.com/the-father-of-weaponized-weather/

Cloud seeding is not too difficult.  That's been going on for over 40 years.


I was in the area of this 'experimental' storm:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=south%20dakota%20cloud%20seeded%20storm&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CC0QFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ias.sdsmt.edu%2FPublications%2FRapidCityFlood-ASDennis.pdf&ei=zeuaUOT6BZG60AGB_IC4Cw&usg=AFQjCNHgSpsx_of3adMZwaiGEu0Ocd4BbQ

We had to seek shelter while camping, it was pretty bad. 

Did you actually read the paper you linked? It's interesting, I recommend you do.

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11. A Sobering Conclusion
The history recounted above shows that some controversies over scientific matters are settled with scant regard for the facts. Despite the fact that no one ever came up with any serious, quantitative hypothesis linking cloud seeding to the abnormal easterly flow of moist air into the Black Hills on the evening of June 9, the possibility that cloud seeding caused or augmented the 1972 flood on Rapid Creek is well embedded in the minds of many lay persons.
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January 08, 2013, 11:20:38 AM
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you've earned it.
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January 08, 2013, 10:39:17 AM
#13
http://www.thenation.com/article/170918/hurricane-sandy-greek-tragedy

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Sandy is short for Cassandra, the Greek mythological figure who epitomizes tragedy. The gods gave Cassandra the gift of prophecy; depending on which version of the story one prefers, she could either see or smell the future. But with this gift also came a curse: Cassandra’s warnings about future disasters were fated to be ignored.
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