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Topic: The Hurricane Sandy False Flag (Read 8218 times)

legendary
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February 03, 2013, 12:54:18 AM
#72
I hadn't actually even seen this before now, but this guy seems to have come to the same conclusions around the same time as I originally made this post:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZC51TDYKsU

Award-winning meteorologist Scott Stevens spent a decade studying weather modification, and says in this interview that hurricane Sandy is being manipulated to create as much rainfall as possible (this was before it even made landfall).  He even decided to relocate to a small, self-sustained community in the mountains of Colorado as a result of his research.
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January 14, 2013, 03:03:39 PM
#71
Fuckin Juggalettes, why are they naked?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXRAQyiqx-M#t=8m28s

WARNING: Under 18 Don't click link above
legendary
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January 14, 2013, 05:08:37 AM
#70
Please take the magnet nonsense to another thread.  It is completely irrelevant.

sncr
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January 12, 2013, 01:30:59 PM
#69
Please take the magnet nonsense to another thread.  It is completely irrelevant.

okay after I see how much these guys will bet
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/perpetual-motion-device-free-energy-do-you-believe-in-it-136137
legendary
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January 12, 2013, 07:53:21 AM
#68
Please take the magnet nonsense to another thread.  It is completely irrelevant.
legendary
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January 12, 2013, 02:53:13 AM
#67
do you believe in perpetual motion machines lets say without solar power and not free energy?

alright B&&*s where the $(&# is the power coming from for this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR6Qait2JGY#t=3m12s

No, I do not. Energy can not be created or destroyed. It's a law. And I have a doctorate level education in this subject (though not an actual degree), so keep asking away.

That video is of a simple motor. The wires on either end of the coil have the insulation stripped on one side, and the nails have electricity hooked up to them. Here's a video of how it works
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=it_Z7NdKgmY&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dit_Z7NdKgmY
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January 12, 2013, 02:52:29 AM
#66
alright B&&*s where the $(&# is the power coming from for this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR6Qait2JGY#t=3m12s

He has a copper coil suspended in a magnetic field. Applying a voltage (probably across the nails) will cause it to move.

Seriously, a basic knowledge of electrical principles is all you need to know to be able to spot the bullshit.
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January 12, 2013, 02:39:00 AM
#65
do you believe in perpetual motion machines lets say without solar power and not free energy?

alright B&&*s where the $(&# is the power coming from for this one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR6Qait2JGY#t=3m12s
legendary
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January 12, 2013, 02:22:55 AM
#64
so maybe that one is a scam, but all the rest of the videos online?

i'll try to build a different one

Electro magnets work because the electricity is making the magnetic fields in the magnets move. In permanent magnets, the magnetic field is standing still. It's "permanent." Unless you can figure out how to make a permanent magnet with a moving magnetic field, you'll never be able to build a free energy machine.
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January 12, 2013, 02:16:09 AM
#63
so maybe that one is a scam, but all the rest of the videos online?

You cannot replace an electromagnet with a permanent one, no matter how powerful, at least not in a motor. The whole point of using electromagets is so that you can switch them off at closest approach, and let the next magnet take over pulling.
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January 12, 2013, 02:10:05 AM
#62
so maybe that one is a scam, but all the rest of the videos online?

i'll try to build a different one
legendary
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January 12, 2013, 02:05:42 AM
#61
how is a magnet not free energy? does the magnet 'wear out' as its used?

The magnet is as much an "energy" as gravity or a coil spring. It only pulls something together when you pull it apart. In other words, it can store a little bit of energy if you pull two magnets apart, and use it up when you let the two magnets come back together, but you can't get energy out of setting up magnets in some weird configuration any more than you can out of stretching rubber bands in the exact same configuration.

The only reason electricity, actual energy, works from magnets is because a mechanical force can use magnets to shove electrons around inside a wire. Mechanical energy (usually a steam engine) moves magnets around, those magnets attract electrons and move them inside a wire, and magnets on the other end of the wire are attracted to the same electrons, and move after them too. In a way, it's exactly like a pulley system: move the wheel on one end, and it tugs at the ropes and moves the wheel at the other end. That's how all electrical motors work. All that the magnets do is attach themselves to electrons.  The energy to move those electrons has to come from somewhere, and it's not the magnets themselves.
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January 12, 2013, 01:44:40 AM
#60
Who is to say a weather machine would need a large scale operation?  It could be a small device that only needs a relatively small group of people to operate it.

Well, in that case the issue would be physics. It would take an enormous amount of energy to create or control a hurricane, and anyone using anywhere near that amount of energy in the atmosphere would get instantly detected. So, too big of a conspiracy to keep secret + physics don't work out = crackpot theory, and thus I dismiss it same way I dismiss "over unity" machines based on magnets and such. Sure, we should engage and debate radical ideas and concepts, but not when they are so far out in the extreme and so easily disprovable.

how is a magnet not free energy? does the magnet 'wear out' as its used?

Let's say that the pull of a magnet on a stator of the generator at closest approach is 1. As the magnet on the rotor nears closest approach, the magnet's pull increases towards 1, speeding up the rotor. As the magnet on the rotor passes closest approach, it gradually decreases from 1, slowing down the rotor. The net effect is 0.

then how do you explain this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PDeK6rprA4#t=1m38s

You'll note the first one is never moved from the carpet. If you look carefully at 2:24, you can see a coin cell battery in the second "prototype". (you'll note that this is also the side where the wire attaches, and it conveniently disappears into the tape). I suspect heavy use of magnetic reed switches.

Have you tried this yourself? Seems a simple enough hack.
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January 12, 2013, 01:21:18 AM
#59
Who is to say a weather machine would need a large scale operation?  It could be a small device that only needs a relatively small group of people to operate it.

Well, in that case the issue would be physics. It would take an enormous amount of energy to create or control a hurricane, and anyone using anywhere near that amount of energy in the atmosphere would get instantly detected. So, too big of a conspiracy to keep secret + physics don't work out = crackpot theory, and thus I dismiss it same way I dismiss "over unity" machines based on magnets and such. Sure, we should engage and debate radical ideas and concepts, but not when they are so far out in the extreme and so easily disprovable.

how is a magnet not free energy? does the magnet 'wear out' as its used?

Let's say that the pull of a magnet on a stator of the generator at closest approach is 1. As the magnet on the rotor nears closest approach, the magnet's pull increases towards 1, speeding up the rotor. As the magnet on the rotor passes closest approach, it gradually decreases from 1, slowing down the rotor. The net effect is 0.

then how do you explain this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PDeK6rprA4#t=1m38s
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January 12, 2013, 12:22:33 AM
#58
Who is to say a weather machine would need a large scale operation?  It could be a small device that only needs a relatively small group of people to operate it.

Well, in that case the issue would be physics. It would take an enormous amount of energy to create or control a hurricane, and anyone using anywhere near that amount of energy in the atmosphere would get instantly detected. So, too big of a conspiracy to keep secret + physics don't work out = crackpot theory, and thus I dismiss it same way I dismiss "over unity" machines based on magnets and such. Sure, we should engage and debate radical ideas and concepts, but not when they are so far out in the extreme and so easily disprovable.

how is a magnet not free energy? does the magnet 'wear out' as its used?

Let's say that the pull of a magnet on a stator of the generator at closest approach is 1. As the magnet on the rotor nears closest approach, the magnet's pull increases towards 1, speeding up the rotor. As the magnet on the rotor passes closest approach, it gradually decreases from 1, slowing down the rotor. The net effect is 0.
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January 12, 2013, 12:12:22 AM
#57
Who is to say a weather machine would need a large scale operation?  It could be a small device that only needs a relatively small group of people to operate it.

Well, in that case the issue would be physics. It would take an enormous amount of energy to create or control a hurricane, and anyone using anywhere near that amount of energy in the atmosphere would get instantly detected. So, too big of a conspiracy to keep secret + physics don't work out = crackpot theory, and thus I dismiss it same way I dismiss "over unity" machines based on magnets and such. Sure, we should engage and debate radical ideas and concepts, but not when they are so far out in the extreme and so easily disprovable.

how is a magnet not free energy? does the magnet 'wear out' as its used?
legendary
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January 09, 2013, 06:32:56 PM
#56
Who is to say a weather machine would need a large scale operation?  It could be a small device that only needs a relatively small group of people to operate it.

Well, in that case the issue would be physics. It would take an enormous amount of energy to create or control a hurricane, and anyone using anywhere near that amount of energy in the atmosphere would get instantly detected. So, too big of a conspiracy to keep secret + physics don't work out = crackpot theory, and thus I dismiss it same way I dismiss "over unity" machines based on magnets and such. Sure, we should engage and debate radical ideas and concepts, but not when they are so far out in the extreme and so easily disprovable.
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January 09, 2013, 06:10:51 PM
#55
Too often we are totally dismissive too radical ideals

Oh the irony of this statement...

No irony, we have exhaustively discussed AnCap vs. The State so maybe you should get your history straight or quit being intellectually dishonest.   More you respond the more I see what you like to do.

I'm being intellectually dishonest?

You won't even answer a very simple question. I wonder why?

Yes you are.  You know why, re-read my final response on that if you have forgotten.

Oh, you mean this?
If you want to engage further, you should go into the last couple issues we have discussed and maybe come closer to me from the extreme position you have stuck too.

It's hardly extreme to want to know if you do or would have life insurance is it?

On the other hand, dodging that question like you have strikes me as extremely intellectually dishonest.

As did your refusal to acknowledge that companies are made up of private citizens, and several other statements I've seen from you recently... including the one that I quoted first in this discussion.

I never said, I refused to let you take me down your little fringe logic road to try and build a case for  nuclear weapons for private citizens.   You're obviously out of touch with reality and would implement dangerous policies for everyone if given the chance.  Good day.

Aww, don't be like that... I'm just curious. I honestly just want to know whether or not you do or would have life insurance.
legendary
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January 09, 2013, 06:04:17 PM
#54
Too often we are totally dismissive too radical ideals

Oh the irony of this statement...

No irony, we have exhaustively discussed AnCap vs. The State so maybe you should get your history straight or quit being intellectually dishonest.   More you respond the more I see what you like to do.

I'm being intellectually dishonest?

You won't even answer a very simple question. I wonder why?

Yes you are.  You know why, re-read my final response on that if you have forgotten.

Oh, you mean this?
If you want to engage further, you should go into the last couple issues we have discussed and maybe come closer to me from the extreme position you have stuck too.

It's hardly extreme to want to know if you do or would have life insurance is it?

On the other hand, dodging that question like you have strikes me as extremely intellectually dishonest.

As did your refusal to acknowledge that companies are made up of private citizens, and several other statements I've seen from you recently... including the one that I quoted first in this discussion.

I never said, I refused to let you take me down your little fringe logic road to try and build a case for  nuclear weapons for private citizens.   You're obviously out of touch with reality and would implement dangerous policies for everyone if given the chance.  Good day.
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January 09, 2013, 05:59:52 PM
#53
Too often we are totally dismissive too radical ideals

Oh the irony of this statement...

No irony, we have exhaustively discussed AnCap vs. The State so maybe you should get your history straight or quit being intellectually dishonest.   More you respond the more I see what you like to do.

I'm being intellectually dishonest?

You won't even answer a very simple question. I wonder why?

Yes you are.  You know why, re-read my final response on that if you have forgotten.

Oh, you mean this?
If you want to engage further, you should go into the last couple issues we have discussed and maybe come closer to me from the extreme position you have stuck too.

It's hardly extreme to want to know if you do or would have life insurance is it?

On the other hand, dodging that question like you have strikes me as extremely intellectually dishonest.

As did your refusal to acknowledge that companies are made up of private citizens, and several other statements I've seen from you recently... including the one that I quoted first in this discussion.
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