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legendary
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December 11, 2020, 09:26:35 PM
So that's it, the only outstanding lawsuit is in Georgia where they allege thousands of voters who shouldn't have voted did vote and that won't be enough. Biden will be the next President, but there wasn't too much doubt in the first place.



Except for one major thing. This is the Kraken thread. The Texas lawsuit wasn't about winning. Rather, it was about making a show of attempting to win.

Note that none of the things in the Texas lawsuit had anything to do directly with the Kraken. Also, the wording could have been written to show exactly what the voting methods of the other States had to do with Texas and the States that sided with her. But the attorneys who wrote up the Texas lawsuit, were too shrewd to write the lawsuit that way. After all, all they were doing is providing the legal and lawful method for Trump to activate the Kraken... by making sure every other method had been tried first.

The Kraken? The 305th Military Intelligence Battalion? Such stuff doesn't have to do with courts. Rather, it has to do with emergency protection in war. And emergency protection in war is what the President does.

The courts, in league with the States, are pushing the President into no other alternative than military action... the Kraken. And they are probably doing it intentionally, so that the Deep State really gets mopped up.

Cool
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December 11, 2020, 09:17:35 PM
I think I'll be offline a couple days. I'm a bit tired of the oppressive atmosphere.

Wonder if he'll ever come back.

btw, anybody know what happened to TECSHARE?  (if it's public knowledge)
legendary
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December 11, 2020, 08:58:11 PM
So that's it, the only outstanding lawsuit is in Georgia where they allege thousands of voters who shouldn't have voted did vote and that won't be enough. Biden will be the next President, but there wasn't too much doubt in the first place.

legendary
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December 11, 2020, 07:51:05 PM
The lawsuit was "denied for lack of standing", not on the merits. So SCOTUS says that states may violate their own Constitutions, and SCOTUS has no objection...
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December 11, 2020, 07:15:14 PM
And the Supreme Court said go away:

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/11/politics/supreme-court-order-texas-election-case/index.html
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/12/11/texas-lawsuit-supreme-court-election-results/
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-files-reply-brief-in-election-suit-final-step-before-court-would-issue-order-in-blockbuster-case

Not that anyone who had any kind of basic understanding of how the law works and any grasp of reality would have thought differently.
So anyone want to take a bet as to how long till the next silly lawsuit gets filed and then thrown out?
I think this leaves the Trump team sitting at 1 win 54 losses in court.

-Dave
legendary
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December 11, 2020, 03:45:11 PM

Well, that's what it is about, right? It's about whether or not Trump is exposing vote fraud or whether he is fraudulently making "things" to appear that there is vote fraud. It's the evidence that should make this all clear.

If the courts can show us where the evidence that Trump brings is lacking, they should do it, right? If they only make a ruling, without showing us, or explaining to us, why they rule the way they did, what really does their ruling amount to? It might sim[ply be a bias opinion? And I am talking their ruling in either direction.

Notice that most judgments by judges are simply opinions. It is important that the judges in a case of this importance follow up their judgments with statements of facts, and conclusions of law. After all, if the facts and conclusions they base their judgments on are faulty, there are still grand juries and 12-person juries that can take down biased judges.

Cool

EDIT: Btw, the whole video is skewed from the start, making statements about Trump and the reasons he might think he will win his case, statements that have nothing to do with it.

fyi...that dude has 30 years experience litigating in the federal court system and knows his shit.
Unlike the wackaloon fringe websites you seem to get all your info from to bolster the fantasy world reality bubble you live in. How's your imaginary invisible friend in the sky doing, btw?


legendary
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December 11, 2020, 02:30:17 PM

Well, that's what it is about, right? It's about whether or not Trump is exposing vote fraud or whether he is fraudulently making "things" to appear that there is vote fraud. It's the evidence that should make this all clear.

If the courts can show us where the evidence that Trump brings is lacking, they should do it, right? If they only make a ruling, without showing us, or explaining to us, why they rule the way they did, what really does their ruling amount to? It might sim[ply be a bias opinion? And I am talking their ruling in either direction.

Notice that most judgments by judges are simply opinions. It is important that the judges in a case of this importance follow up their judgments with statements of facts, and conclusions of law. After all, if the facts and conclusions they base their judgments on are faulty, there are still grand juries and 12-person juries that can take down biased judges.

Cool

EDIT: Btw, the whole video is skewed from the start, making statements about Trump and the reasons he might think he will win his case, statements that have nothing to do with it.
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December 11, 2020, 10:01:51 AM
I'm sure this is just a coincidence, but the Texas AG that filed the law suit was indicted in 2015 on felony fraud charges and has been dragging out the case ever since.  It's a federal charge, so, all Trump would need to do is sign a piece of paper and all that would go away...but he would have to sign it before Biden takes office about 965 hours from now.  I'm sure only people with TDS, like myself, will see the connection here.

He better pray that Trump doesn't put his pardon request into the "execution" pile if he loses the lawsuit.

As President Donald Trump's days in the White House wane, his administration is racing through a string of federal executions.

Five executions are scheduled before President-elect Joe Biden's 20 January inauguration - breaking with an 130-year-old precedent of pausing executions amid a presidential transition.

And if all five take place, Mr Trump will be the country's most prolific execution president in more than a century, overseeing the executions of 13 death row inmates since July of this year.
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December 11, 2020, 06:36:38 AM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-court-brief/several-u-s-states-back-texas-bid-to-upend-biden-election-win-at-supreme-court-idUSKBN28J2WE

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Seventeen U.S. states on Wednesday filed a brief at the U.S. Supreme Court supporting a bid by Texas to overturn the presidential election results.

Are these 17 U.S. states all crazy (out of their minds) ? Because they all think the election was a fraud...

What if the other half is crazy?

Wow, that's the shortest news article I've ever seen... something is off. And I can't find any more information, weird. Oh, BTW, 17 isn't half of the states, that would be 25. But it really depends on what those 17 states are, which the story doesn't mention.

I'm sure this is just a coincidence, but the Texas AG that filed the law suit was indicted in 2015 on felony fraud charges and has been dragging out the case ever since.  It's a federal charge, so, all Trump would need to do is sign a piece of paper and all that would go away...but he would have to sign it before Biden takes office about 965 hours from now.  I'm sure only people with TDS, like myself, will see the connection here.
legendary
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December 11, 2020, 03:58:56 AM

It's nice to see you actually remembering your scripts, and practicing them.

......

Why thanx bro! I'll put it to music and send you the link so you can update your favorites playlist...
Okay, but be warned you are going to be down between Lightning Hopkins and Zhou Tonged

I feel honored indeed....

Yo Spendy! What with the latest scotus silly nonsense case, do you hear the sound of victory? ROFL...etc

FEAR THE KRAKEN!!  BA HAHAHA! (notice I spelled "kraken" differently than the thread title... I pay attention to these things, doncha know)

Goddamn!... I'm almost liking this discussion better than that 10 billion page sadly locked FE thread...


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December 10, 2020, 11:08:49 PM
Rudy Giuliani is the former Mayor of NYC, former attorney general. He is beyond a great lawyer.

He is a little bit of more than these:

Mafia Commission Trial similar happened in 2016 too...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fad3sTvAf80

Some things never change.

Have you guys not been keeping up with current events?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QTRO9MG6z8

Rudy fell from grace.  Hard.

He's had cases thrown out not only because they don't make sense or for lack of evidence, but because the wrong forms were filled out, or they forgot to pay the fee.

He forgets the judges name, contradicts himself and rambles incoherently.  

He has failed miserably in pretty much every way possible when it comes to being Trumps lawyer over the past month.  Trump had no choice, though.  No decent attorney would do what he wanted.  Look at what happened to the last one that did.

legendary
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December 10, 2020, 09:30:21 PM

But then I remember something similar happened in 2016 too...



TIMCAST in Youtube says:
First the ignore you (Trump)
Then they laugh at you
Then they fight you
Then you win.


Cool
legendary
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December 10, 2020, 07:23:29 PM
...

He is a little bit of more than these:

Mafia Commission Trial

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The Mafia Commission Trial (in full, United States v. Anthony Salerno, et al)[1] was a criminal trial in New York City, United States, that lasted from February 25, 1985, until November 19, 1986. Using evidence obtained by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, 11 organized crime figures, including the heads of New York's so-called "Five Families," were indicted by United States Attorney Rudolph Giuliani under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) on charges including extortion, labor racketeering, and murder. Eight of them were convicted under RICO, and most of them were sentenced to 100 years in prison on January 13, 1987, the maximum possible sentence under that law.

I am laughing my ass off at those clueless turds trying to picture him as a clown.
...

It's simply a tactic. Ridicule. Part of a weird effort to secure a new POTUS in the court of public opinion.

But the Kraken is now out. The SCOTUS has the Texas case. That does not necessarily mean that Trump will win the four states in question.

This is important because it represents a way forward out of what I described as "the shitshow". It DOES NOT ask the SC to decide the election for Trump.

A) The US right now is the joke of the entire world. They watch a classical insurrection take place here. The sort of thing people in many countries have tragically, lived through. The Texas case requires the four defective, suspect states votes to be redone in a logical and dignified manner. Should this happen, the US will be showing the world a sane way out, and we'll regain their respect. Even perhaps teach them something.

B) If the SC does not find for the Plaintiff, the stolen election stands. 70 million Americans will never forget it and the country will be divided as never before. It won't go away, and these people will essentially consider Trump a martyr. If the SC finds for the Plaintiff, the four states legislatures will produce their electors per the Constitution. Trump voters will accept that regardless of whether the result is for or against their wishes. The Democrat overlords will have no rationale basis to call their little BLM / Antifa thugs back into the streets. Not that it would matter if they did.

SUMMARY: The Texas lawsuit presents a rational and dignified way out of a sordid mess. And the whole world will be watching.

Oh, and the same thugs and cheats are going to try to steal the election of 1-5 for the two senators of Georgia. All equipment, ballot boxes, and procedures as used in the presidential election now remain in place in Georgia.

There should be a way to handle that, but I do not know, those seats may be successfully stolen.

I think I'll be offline a couple days. I'm a bit tired of the oppressive atmosphere.
legendary
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December 10, 2020, 05:56:44 PM
Two United States District Court judges blocked Trump campaign election challenges in Georgia and Michigan Monday, slamming them for their overreach and presumption. The dismissed Georgia case was the infamous “Kraken” lawsuit filed by Trump attorney Sidney Powell.

So that's it, the Kraken has been slain. And it didn't even take the head of Medusa to cast a gaze and turn it to stone. Just a couple frumpy judges reiterating what the intelligent masses have already known: Trump is out of his mind.


Little bit more then that.

Trump and his legal team is out of their mind. Though I think they know EXACTLY what they're doing. Rudy Giuliani is not someone you have around when you think you're going to win a legal case and be done with it. He's someone you have around when you're trying to make a media spectacle of the whole thing.

If this was a real case this wouldn't be the case. But the reason for this is that this has the intention of raising money and keeping Trump relevant, nothing more and nothing less.

Rudy Giuliani is the former Mayor of NYC, former attorney general. He is beyond a great lawyer.

He is a little bit of more than these:

Mafia Commission Trial

Quote
The Mafia Commission Trial (in full, United States v. Anthony Salerno, et al)[1] was a criminal trial in New York City, United States, that lasted from February 25, 1985, until November 19, 1986. Using evidence obtained by the Federal Bureau of Investigation, 11 organized crime figures, including the heads of New York's so-called "Five Families," were indicted by United States Attorney Rudolph Giuliani under the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) on charges including extortion, labor racketeering, and murder. Eight of them were convicted under RICO, and most of them were sentenced to 100 years in prison on January 13, 1987, the maximum possible sentence under that law.

I am laughing my ass off at those clueless turds trying to picture him as a clown.

But then I remember something similar happened in 2016 too...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fad3sTvAf80

Some things never change.
sr. member
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December 10, 2020, 05:49:26 PM
Two United States District Court judges blocked Trump campaign election challenges in Georgia and Michigan Monday, slamming them for their overreach and presumption. The dismissed Georgia case was the infamous “Kraken” lawsuit filed by Trump attorney Sidney Powell.

So that's it, the Kraken has been slain. And it didn't even take the head of Medusa to cast a gaze and turn it to stone. Just a couple frumpy judges reiterating what the intelligent masses have already known: Trump is out of his mind.


Little bit more then that.

Trump and his legal team is out of their mind. Though I think they know EXACTLY what they're doing. Rudy Giuliani is not someone you have around when you think you're going to win a legal case and be done with it. He's someone you have around when you're trying to make a media spectacle of the whole thing.

If this was a real case this wouldn't be the case. But the reason for this is that this has the intention of raising money and keeping Trump relevant, nothing more and nothing less.

Rudy Giuliani is the former Mayor of NYC, former attorney general. He is beyond a great lawyer.
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December 10, 2020, 05:09:00 PM
About the next 24 hours is the timeframe to place your bets at those market odds of what was it? 10:1? You've been advised.

Thanks for the advice, Mr. Too Broke To Bet Five Bucks.
legendary
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December 10, 2020, 03:01:32 PM

It's nice to see you actually remembering your scripts, and practicing them.

......

Why thanx bro! I'll put it to music and send you the link so you can update your favorites playlist...
Okay, but be warned you are going to be down between Lightning Hopkins and Zhou Tonged
legendary
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December 10, 2020, 02:51:53 PM
Are you ready to receive that schooling?

Absolutely. I'm not so sure you're ready yet to accept Trump's loss though. I assume this is the bargaining stage. I don't recall if depression comes before or after. Have you felt depressed at all lately?
For me, the prospect on 11-4 was and remains a six month shitshow, and yeah, that is depressing. But that is regardless of who emerges as POTUS. Any sane person would see that.

Here is your situation. The intense, heavy pushing of the narrative in the media that "Biden is Pres Elect", the media helping by banning conservative content, many other things now do not matter. At all.

You have a conservative leaning SCOTUS, at least 18 states presenting a plea to that body to solve a problem. The problem involves as Defendant, 4 status with Republican legislatures (but apparent Democratic control of critical election organization.)

So three bunches of "Republicans" are going to solve this between themselves.

I can guess how three bunches of Democrats would handle such a thing. About the next 24 hours is the timeframe to place your bets at those market odds of what was it? 10:1? You've been advised.


The plea is the problem. A plea is what is done in a complaint to government or a part thereof. What needs to be done is a claim. What would the claim be? Perhaps $20 trillion to each State from the Federal if they don't adjudicate correctly. Then, let it go before a jury.

In addition, the States should claim for slightly different reasons. This way, if one of them fails, the others can still have at it.

Cool
legendary
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December 10, 2020, 02:37:56 PM
Are you ready to receive that schooling?

Absolutely. I'm not so sure you're ready yet to accept Trump's loss though. I assume this is the bargaining stage. I don't recall if depression comes before or after. Have you felt depressed at all lately?
For me, the prospect on 11-4 was and remains a six month shitshow, and yeah, that is depressing. But that is regardless of who emerges as POTUS. Any sane person would see that.

Here is your situation. The intense, heavy pushing of the narrative in the media that "Biden is Pres Elect", the media helping by banning conservative content, many other things now do not matter. At all.

You have a conservative leaning SCOTUS, at least 18 states presenting a plea to that body to solve a problem. The problem involves as Defendant, 4 status with Republican legislatures (but apparent Democratic control of critical election organization.)

So three bunches of "Republicans" are going to solve this between themselves.

I can guess how three bunches of Democrats would handle such a thing. About the next 24 hours is the timeframe to place your bets at those market odds of what was it? 10:1? You've been advised.
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