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Topic: The lagest Bitcoin mixer is about to stop working - page 11. (Read 91055 times)

hero member
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surprised OP didn't mention Monero..
jr. member
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No problem, someone else will make such service and someone else will profit from it.

Anyway he was prolly aproached by FBI or any other 3 letter agency.
legendary
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there has been a while everybody knows that bitcoin isn't fully anonymous and there was many attempts to tackle this problem, so what's new in your case? have you just discovered this issue? even Monero has its own issue concerning anonymity, I think you need to tell us the truth about your decision.

It's literally in his statement, he doesn't want to help criminals make money / wash it for them.

Sad to see this site go, since it was the only trusted mixer i know, and the only one i could trust.

I feel like there's alot more going around then just your sudden change of opinion on anonimity/privacy with bitcoin.
You've probably received threats from the FBI/CIA, that you should shutdown your site, which is honestly, pretty sad.


It was a really very hard decision. Especially it was hard to drop this business because of incredible high income. But we never had any government or legal pressure, it is only my own opinion. I really believe in clean transparent Bitcoin. I really happy that Bitcoin legalized as payment system and currency in many countries, I actually didn't believe in this in 2011.

This is extremely hard to believe, sadly enough.

newbie
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If the feds go after Zcash's US-based company, HUSH suddenly becomes the only good clone for "perfect" privacy. ZCL and ZEN are much too cloudy on the dev front for me and DASH/monero and their clones are just mixers.
hero member
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It is so bad news :|
legendary
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Maybe it is just an hacked account here, on the webpage there has nothing changed.
If he is the real user, he would anounce that first on his web page.

Well, it's there now...



and a link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2042470.new#new (to this thread no less...  Roll Eyes )
newbie
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there has been a while everybody knows that bitcoin isn't fully anonymous and there was many attempts to tackle this problem, so what's new in your case? have you just discovered this issue? even Monero has its own issue concerning anonymity, I think you need to tell us the truth about your decision.
legendary
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Welt Am Draht
There is no quitting in this business, you'll soon understand what I mean, when you enter this business you'll have to stay in it till death do us a part.

If I were a drug dealer used your service frequently I'd be keep looking for you and eliminate you because now that you want out you are a loose end.

I think you didn't think about that did you genius? once you're in then you're in for good, now you should calm yourself down and get back to the business

As usual, we're worst than any fucking government or any organization, we act when we feel danger, we act by eliminating any loose ends.

Golly, you sound scary.

Kind of the same as all those Silk Road millions that went down with Gox. How many times was Mark Karpeles murdered again? Not very many as far as I can tell.
sr. member
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This was a great service you offered to the Bitcoin community and its unfortunate you have stopped this here. I might understand that you did this concerning greater issues at hand but when you call out other mixing sites to close, don't think they will follow your steps towards closing their respective sites. Such sites have already made a large amount of profit and will continue to do so until they stumble upon issues.
sr. member
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[...] I really don't want to earn helping criminals. It is not only personal. Bitcoin couldn't be accepted by general public and governments if it is a crime tool. No, no, no. Fortunately last years appeared special anonymous cryptocurrencies for this purpose. But Bitcoin has another big aims. It is a finance revolution, but not a crime finance revolution.[...]
this sentence looks very very suspicious...tough look like you never used a pgp signature, how can we know its you? or even signed this 1BitmixerEiyyp3eTLaCpgBbhYERs48qza
legendary
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-> morgen, ist heute, schon gestern <-
Maybe it is just an hacked account here, on the webpage there has nothing changed.
If he is the real user, he would anounce that first on his web page.
newbie
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Was sending some money to family. more then $4,000 tried several times to connect to the .onion site which failed so I ended up having to use the regular site. Downloaded the guarantee letter as usual, and by next day still nothing came out the other end.  Huh

If the profit is so good, finish up our transactions before closing please this was hard worked for and much needed money for them. Have used you many times in the past, this is a bad way to go.

cJ
sr. member
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Why would a business that is earning high income in BTC suddenly change course and declare that BTC shouldnt be private? Maybe theres something going on here that needs investigating. Could it be the owners are suddenly pressured to stop mixing coins from the darknet? Theres also the possibility of the service already compromised for a long time by the DEA or FBI or something and the owners just found it this week.
newbie
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I never used the service, but was always a friend of all kind of privacy.
Nevertheless, you've my respect for that decision.
legendary
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Maybe ya'll should see it as an opportunity. Anyone who can provide a service with the same degree of trust will be rewarded.

(May be risky in the current era. Alternatively just buy Monero).
copper member
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Limited in number. Limitless in potential.
Have to accept this, since this mixer (Bitmixer) runs years already and this platform helps a lot totally to Bitcoin users especially to those who are using always a mixer. And also let's give chance to those new mixers here Grin and since chipmixer already made its name and services to serve people.

EDIT: And I don't know what are the reactions of those people who owned those clones of Bitmixer since they closed their service.Roll Eyes
sr. member
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There is no quitting in this business, you'll soon understand what I mean, when you enter this business you'll have to stay in it till death do us a part.


Not true. You should quit while you are ahead and while you have your freedom.


#true

well played sir and thanks for your service all the years.
legendary
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Thick-Skinned Gang Leader and Golden Feather 2021
Note: I've never used BitMixer so I won't miss it's services. One of the reasons for not using it is that the coins I get back are most likely from someone who's trying to hide worse things than me Tongue
When you used Bitmixer, they would give you a "Letter of Guarantee" (mentioned here) so that you could prove that you sent funds to their site (signed message from their address + signed message from you = proof).

If the authorities came knocking, you could just prove to them that you sent your funds to Bitmixer, and therefore that the tied coins were not yours.
I've seen it, but I don't think it proves anything as it still requires the authorities to believe BitMixer is honest.
For the deposit, it certainly doesn't require that.  The point is for them to sign a message proving that the address you're sending to is owned by Bitmixer.  So as for the funds coming back to you, you can sign a message proving that you own the address that received a transaction of the same amount you send to Bitmixer, if that makes sense.

After that, the authorities can either believe a mixture of cryptographic proof and completely obvious reasoning, believe that Bitmixer stole your money and you just mysteriously received a transaction from a criminal at that time, or believe that you own Bitmixer.  I'd say the former one is the only logical way that they could go.
I doubt a judge would believe evidence created by the anonymous website that you claim laundered your money into coins wanted for something you claim you didn't do.
I don't see why not if you provide evidence that Bitcoin's signed message system is sound and you verify Bitmixer's signature.
Let's put it this way: BitMixer can sign a message now, claiming the address in my profile is their deposit address. The problem is not with Bitcoin's signatures, the problem is with having to trust BitMixer on this.
Of course BitMixer wouldn't do this in the past, as it gives me enough to destroy their reputation. But now that they've closed their business, what stops them from giving out signatures at request to be used at lawsuits from big money launderers?
If I go full paranoid, this could even have been a reason to close the site: save someone who's being charged with something. My point is: this signature isn't worth anything for a judge.
legendary
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Wow! I never saw this coming. I thought someone was joking when I read this on another thread. So after 6 years you've just changed your mind? I hope that's true and not just BS you have to say in order to protect your freedom. Good luck on your future endeavours!!
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