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Topic: The legends of bitcointalk should make our own altcoin together, thoughts? - page 3. (Read 9221 times)

legendary
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
"Dead" coins can be extremely lucrative. I made probably at least half my bitcoins simply by CPU-mining BBQcoin for a year or so while it was out of the public eye then selling it before it got on an exchange to people who wanted to revive it and get it onto an exchange. So I didn't even have to wait for it to get (back?) onto an exchange in order to rake in hundreds of bitcoins for a year of devoting one CPU-core to it.

So yeah there are fortunes to be made on coins so "dead" that you don't even need a GPU to mine them. Devote a CPU core each to them while preparing a shiny new version, hopefully with merged mining as a subchain included so that, unlike BBQcoin, it need not die again as soon as it comes back into the public eye due to rape and pillage miners who perforce have to jump from coin to coin because coins are so seldom able to all be mined at once with merged mining; and wait for some idiot to come along with a GPU driving the electricity costs up for everyone by needlessly driving the difficulty up instead of quietly mining with just a CPU core like everyone else; at that point go public with the shiny new version, having hopefully accumulated far far more coins than the idiot who prematurely unleashed a GPU on it will make now that (s)he "forced" you to go public so (s)he now has to compete with gosh knows how many other GPU-miners or even ASIC-miners instead of co-operating quielty with the CPU-mining/dev team...

-MarkM-

EDIT: Lolcust IS Art? Wow I didn't know that. Lolcust always gave the impression of not being any kind of coder type at all.


Good history, The curious about BBQcoin that if I remember correctly it currency was done originally thinking  to dont be traded or to be mined only as fun. Smiley
legendary
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
Not sure if this is a dead coin but I have always liked ARG.

Argentum the sister of digitalcoin, Well with just 3.6K on marketcap it is only traded on Cryptsy. What of especial do have it?
legendary
Activity: 1139
Merit: 1000
TRUSTplus Dev
Not sure if this is a dead coin but I have always liked ARG.
legendary
Activity: 938
Merit: 1000
OK how about exhume all the dead coins in one swell foop: make a genesis block that takes all the dead coins in all the dead blockchains and gives out exhumecoin proportionately to all the private keys (by converting all the addresses over to the first-byte coding used by exhumedcoin) so all the private keys used in all the dead coins all get some exhumedcoin.

Then since presumably all legends and heroes have huge holdings of bitcoin, maybe throw in all the coins on the bitcoin blockchain too, so the legends and heroes and such behind this scheme, who afterall might not be bagholding any dead shitcoins or not enough to matter, will make something out of this.

Sort of like CLAMS did, but ancient long-dead like hundred year eggs, a real delicacy...

Oh and just think, all the developers who dumped all the shitcoins they developed will be out of luck on this, hahahah, karma bites, sukkas.

Throw in a "locate wallet.dat | import" type thing to automagically suck in all those dead wallets on the users' hard drive for easy importing without having to manually hund down all those dead wallets.

-MarkM-


That could work too, but I'd prefer a 'beauty contest' where the heroes/legends picked an ultimate winner to exhume (maybe rebrand the winner as EXHUMED::EXM), as there's better marketing opportunities as a competition, and we all know adoption is what made Doge a top 10 coin, and that's the best chance for success from this concept of a 'legends of BTT coin' (i.e. style over substance).

My roadmap would be like this:

1- set the basic criteria for entries (i.e. blockchain is resurrectable, previous scam history acceptable)
2- call for nominations, then select 10-15 possible coins
3- heroes/legends debate the merits of each coin, bagholders argue their case (sharktank style)
4- 'tribe votes' to reduce coins down to a final winner


It could all happen over 3-4 months, by the end every crypto follower would know about EXM. Operation Lazarus!


+1 sounds fun as hell.

Or just get it down to 5 or so then let the overhaul team pick one to be announced on completion.

There is a coin  CCB Cryptoclub named  here on BCT, They does mentioned upside  already.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1090
By ancient, long dead I meant to exclude bytecoin style "create a coin today yet pretend it is ancient" type scams, so you'd've had to've created your shitcoins years ago by now in order to be eligible. Those you create today wouldn't be eligible for years yet, and the expectation that folks would start creating shitcoins deliberately to die and lie in wait for another round of sharktank might make them remain ineligible for decades or forever.

But anyway, back to the sharktank idea, presumably one strategy available to bagholders would be to offer up portions of their bags to the sharks, yes?

So basically they could bid for hero/legendary developers to give their coin a makeover.

We could also maybe judge them on the basis of how much of some not-dead coin they'd be willing to offer instead of their bags, as surely the more bitcoin someone would be willing to pay instead of one of their bag coins would be a good indicator of how much they really think their bags are worth?

Though also, of course, of their confidence in the makeover. If they don't think the make their bag worth more than 100 bitcoins, for example, it might not just be lack of confidence in their bags but also some lack of confidence of the abilities of the makeover team?

-MarkM-
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1002
OK how about exhume all the dead coins in one swell foop: make a genesis block that takes all the dead coins in all the dead blockchains and gives out exhumecoin proportionately to all the private keys (by converting all the addresses over to the first-byte coding used by exhumedcoin) so all the private keys used in all the dead coins all get some exhumedcoin.

Then since presumably all legends and heroes have huge holdings of bitcoin, maybe throw in all the coins on the bitcoin blockchain too, so the legends and heroes and such behind this scheme, who afterall might not be bagholding any dead shitcoins or not enough to matter, will make something out of this.

Sort of like CLAMS did, but ancient long-dead like hundred year eggs, a real delicacy...

Oh and just think, all the developers who dumped all the shitcoins they developed will be out of luck on this, hahahah, karma bites, sukkas.

Throw in a "locate wallet.dat | import" type thing to automagically suck in all those dead wallets on the users' hard drive for easy importing without having to manually hund down all those dead wallets.

-MarkM-


That could work too, but I'd prefer a 'beauty contest' where the heroes/legends picked an ultimate winner to exhume (maybe rebrand the winner as EXHUMED::EXM), as there's better marketing opportunities as a competition, and we all know adoption is what made Doge a top 10 coin, and that's the best chance for success from this concept of a 'legends of BTT coin' (i.e. style over substance).

My roadmap would be like this:

1- set the basic criteria for entries (i.e. blockchain is resurrectable, previous scam history acceptable)
2- call for nominations, then select 10-15 possible coins
3- heroes/legends debate the merits of each coin, bagholders argue their case (sharktank style)
4- 'tribe votes' to reduce coins down to a final winner


It could all happen over 3-4 months, by the end every crypto follower would know about EXM. Operation Lazarus!


+1 sounds fun as hell.

Or just get it down to 5 or so then let the overhaul team pick one to be announced on completion.
sr. member
Activity: 406
Merit: 250
OK how about exhume all the dead coins in one swell foop: make a genesis block that takes all the dead coins in all the dead blockchains and gives out exhumecoin proportionately to all the private keys (by converting all the addresses over to the first-byte coding used by exhumedcoin) so all the private keys used in all the dead coins all get some exhumedcoin.

Then since presumably all legends and heroes have huge holdings of bitcoin, maybe throw in all the coins on the bitcoin blockchain too, so the legends and heroes and such behind this scheme, who afterall might not be bagholding any dead shitcoins or not enough to matter, will make something out of this.

Sort of like CLAMS did, but ancient long-dead like hundred year eggs, a real delicacy...

Oh and just think, all the developers who dumped all the shitcoins they developed will be out of luck on this, hahahah, karma bites, sukkas.

Throw in a "locate wallet.dat | import" type thing to automagically suck in all those dead wallets on the users' hard drive for easy importing without having to manually hund down all those dead wallets.

-MarkM-


That could work too, but I'd prefer a 'beauty contest' where the heroes/legends picked an ultimate winner to exhume (maybe rebrand the winner as EXHUMED::EXM), as there's better marketing opportunities as a competition, and we all know adoption is what made Doge a top 10 coin, and that's the best chance for success from this concept of a 'legends of BTT coin' (i.e. style over substance).

My roadmap would be like this:

1- set the basic criteria for entries (i.e. blockchain is resurrectable, previous scam history acceptable)
2- call for nominations, then select 10-15 possible coins
3- heroes/legends debate the merits of each coin, bagholders argue their case (sharktank style)
4- 'tribe votes' to reduce coins down to a final winner


It could all happen over 3-4 months, by the end every crypto follower would know about EXM. Operation Lazarus!
hero member
Activity: 938
Merit: 1002
OK how about exhume all the dead coins in one swell foop: make a genesis block that takes all the dead coins in all the dead blockchains and gives out exhumecoin proportionately to all the private keys (by converting all the addresses over to the first-byte coding used by exhumedcoin) so all the private keys used in all the dead coins all get some exhumedcoin.

Then since presumably all legends and heroes have huge holdings of bitcoin, maybe throw in all the coins on the bitcoin blockchain too, so the legends and heroes and such behind this scheme, who afterall might not be bagholding any dead shitcoins or not enough to matter, will make something out of this.

Sort of like CLAMS did, but ancient long-dead like hundred year eggs, a real delicacy...

Oh and just think, all the developers who dumped all the shitcoins they developed will be out of luck on this, hahahah, karma bites, sukkas.

Throw in a "locate wallet.dat | import" type thing to automagically suck in all those dead wallets on the users' hard drive for easy importing without having to manually hund down all those dead wallets.

-MarkM-


How would you do that proportionately and fairly? If it allows for any coin I'd promptly make a private shitcoin to exhume. Doing it by coin count or number of private keys just doesn't work.

I suppose you could do something like see what % of the total supply the coins are and go off that somehow. But still, I'd make new shitcoins to exhume.

Maybe run a big vote where people can nominate and vote on specific coins to be accepted, then do it by total supply. 1% of the total supply of whatever coin = 1 ExhumeCoin or something.

Would be cooler if you can exhume any dead shitcoin though.
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1090
OK how about exhume all the dead coins in one swell foop: make a genesis block that takes all the dead coins in all the dead blockchains and gives out exhumecoin proportionately to all the private keys (by converting all the addresses over to the first-byte coding used by exhumedcoin) so all the private keys used in all the dead coins all get some exhumedcoin.

Then since presumably all legends and heroes have huge holdings of bitcoin, maybe throw in all the coins on the bitcoin blockchain too, so the legends and heroes and such behind this scheme, who afterall might not be bagholding any dead shitcoins or not enough to matter, will make something out of this.

Sort of like CLAMS did, but ancient long-dead like hundred year eggs, a real delicacy...

Oh and just think, all the developers who dumped all the shitcoins they developed will be out of luck on this, hahahah, karma bites, sukkas.

Throw in a "locate wallet.dat | import" type thing to automagically suck in all those dead wallets on the users' hard drive for easy importing without having to manually hund down all those dead wallets.

-MarkM-
full member
Activity: 162
Merit: 100

A better approach IMO is "My Fair Lady Coin" - a consortium of 'Henry Higgins' heroes/legends finds an existing 'Eliza Doolittle' with potential and turns that coin into a top 10 powerhouse. I can almost see this as a reality TV show. It would be fun and engaging for newbies, with lots of positive promotional/marketing feedback loops.

"Doolittle coin" , the ugly duckling necro'd into a black swan with more bullshit marketing potential than Doge - it's so wrong you know it's right!!

edit: how much marketing power from the audition process from existing shit coins would there be ... HUGE! The Apprentice meets Shark-tank

cool idea bro, just need a coin that's been in a coma long enough for all the usual P & D merchants to have pissed off

[ANN] EXHUMED [EXM] 

it could work for sure  Grin

i vote for TALK

definitely time to exhume DarkBlackCockCoin
member
Activity: 190
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A better approach IMO is "My Fair Lady Coin" - a consortium of 'Henry Higgins' heroes/legends finds an existing 'Eliza Doolittle' with potential and turns that coin into a top 10 powerhouse. I can almost see this as a reality TV show. It would be fun and engaging for newbies, with lots of positive promotional/marketing feedback loops.

"Doolittle coin" , the ugly duckling necro'd into a black swan with more bullshit marketing potential than Doge - it's so wrong you know it's right!!

edit: how much marketing power from the audition process from existing shit coins would there be ... HUGE! The Apprentice meets Shark-tank

cool idea bro, just need a coin that's been in a coma long enough for all the usual P & D merchants to have pissed off

[ANN] EXHUMED [EXM] 

it could work for sure  Grin

i vote for TALK
legendary
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I used to chat with him on #Tenebrix, he always gave the impression that he was just the idea man, looking for a coder or coders to code up his ideas.

Thus making the idea that he himself might be Artforz never even occur to me since Artforz was known to even make FPGA and pseudo ASIC type devices even.

-MarkM-
legendary
Activity: 1210
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"Dead" coins can be extremely lucrative. I made probably at least half my bitcoins simply by CPU-mining BBQcoin for a year or so while it was out of the public eye then selling it before it got on an exchange to people who wanted to revive it and get it onto an exchange. So I didn't even have to wait for it to get (back?) onto an exchange in order to rake in hundreds of bitcoins for a year of devoting one CPU-core to it.

So yeah there are fortunes to be made on coins so "dead" that you don't even need a GPU to mine them. Devote a CPU core each to them while preparing a shiny new version, hopefully with merged mining as a subchain included so that, unlike BBQcoin, it need not die again as soon as it comes back into the public eye due to rape and pillage miners who perforce have to jump from coin to coin because coins are so seldom able to all be mined at once with merged mining; and wait for some idiot to come along with a GPU driving the electricity costs up for everyone by needlessly driving the difficulty up instead of quietly mining with just a CPU core like everyone else; at that point go public with the shiny new version, having hopefully accumulated far far more coins than the idiot who prematurely unleashed a GPU on it will make now that he "forced" you to go public so (s)he now has to compete with gosh knows how many other GPU-miners or even ASIC-miners instead of co-operating quielty with the CPU-mining/dev team...

-MarkM-

EDIT: Lolcust IS Art? Wow I didn't know that. Lolcust always gave the impression of not being any kind of coder type at all.



Lolcust, not a coder, are you effen serious???

I think your memory is going bad on you Mate.


 Grin Grin Grin


~BCX~
legendary
Activity: 2940
Merit: 1090
"Dead" coins can be extremely lucrative. I made probably at least half my bitcoins simply by CPU-mining BBQcoin for a year or so while it was out of the public eye then selling it before it got on an exchange to people who wanted to revive it and get it onto an exchange. So I didn't even have to wait for it to get (back?) onto an exchange in order to rake in hundreds of bitcoins for a year of devoting one CPU-core to it.

So yeah there are fortunes to be made on coins so "dead" that you don't even need a GPU to mine them. Devote a CPU core each to them while preparing a shiny new version, hopefully with merged mining as a subchain included so that, unlike BBQcoin, it need not die again as soon as it comes back into the public eye due to rape and pillage miners who perforce have to jump from coin to coin because coins are so seldom able to all be mined at once with merged mining; and wait for some idiot to come along with a GPU driving the electricity costs up for everyone by needlessly driving the difficulty up instead of quietly mining with just a CPU core like everyone else; at that point go public with the shiny new version, having hopefully accumulated far far more coins than the idiot who prematurely unleashed a GPU on it will make now that (s)he "forced" you to go public so (s)he now has to compete with gosh knows how many other GPU-miners or even ASIC-miners instead of co-operating quielty with the CPU-mining/dev team...

-MarkM-

EDIT: Lolcust IS Art? Wow I didn't know that. Lolcust always gave the impression of not being any kind of coder type at all.
legendary
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sr. member
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hero member
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legendary
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Instead of jumping on the "lets make yet another shitcoin" bandwagon how about instead a team of legends and heroes sets out to update, in chronological order by launch date, all the existing coins, fix all their bugs, see to it all relevant BIPs are applied and so on?

Since a given size/efficiency of team would have some given finite number of coins they could bring up to date before the oldest is out of date again, this approach will probably only be able to deal wit the first so many months or years worth of coins before finding it needs to forget the more-recent ones for now and go back to the start again, maybe this time being able tp update more coins in less time.

So maybe eventually, especially if the team grows, each time through the chronological list they would be able to update more coins before the oldest needs updating again.

Hopefully they will be unlikely to get so fast at this that shitcoins being launched today will ever be reached, but who cares about shitcoins being launched today when there are so many coins launched years ago that not only have not been kept up to date but also have not even been worked on at all but the "developers" (as they like apparently to call themselves) who are ptting out shitcoins today.

Consider for example Tenebrix and Fairbrix, the first and second scrypt coins. Even by the time the third scrypt coin, Litecoin, came out we already were seeing this bullshit of people putting out some new piece of crap of their own instead of fixing the piece of crap the end-users were already invested into.

This Coblee fellow some of you seem to like is actually one of the early perpetrators of spamming out a new scam instead of fixing the ones end-users were already using.

Instead of updating the (really old, horrible) code of Tenebrix and Fairbrix, he just stole their idea and rendered a clone based on newer code (Litecoin), leaving the user-base already invested into the scrypt concept to rot.

Not a nice guy. Did anyone suspect he might just up and abandon Litecoin at some point? Seems like a no-brainer.

So, chronology. Somewhere there was a thread.

Bitcoin, namecoin, ixcoin, i0coin, tenebrix, fairbrix, was it? Or what, exactly? Lets get launch dates in sequence and see what real heroes of the people can accomplish...

Note that Tenebrix's pre-mine, which was the excuse for creating fairbrix and naming it fair, is still out there, so might well be available for bounties for getting Tenebrix out of the stoneage.

-MarkM-
legendary
Activity: 1210
Merit: 1024
Why is it that Vegans care so much about saving animals from being eaten but hate people so much?


@Crestington

The correct question is....

If Vegans love animals so much then why do they eat all of their food?


Back on topic

So what's the progress on this legends coin?


~BCX~




Are your tracking pixels legendary aswell ?

How many have abandoned cryptos thanks to assholes like you ?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/tracking-pixels-split-from-mike-hearns-blacklist-thread-341146

@Psy

Hella good catch mate.

One of my fav all time tricks.

Just glad they aren't that smart in the alt section LOL


~BCX~


That wasn't "Legendary" per se it was just a cool little trick that worked like a charm.

I didn't do anything illegal, nefarious or unethical as that is not in the spirit of "crypto"

But I was able to tie IP's listed in many clients peer list to a visit on a pic I hosted here in Bitcointalk before the image proxy.

Tracking pixels on images hosted on my server is 100% legal.

Just harmless research back in 2010/2011 Mate and nothing more.



~BCX~
legendary
Activity: 1624
Merit: 1001
All cryptos are FIAT digital currency. Do not use.
Why is it that Vegans care so much about saving animals from being eaten but hate people so much?


@Crestington

The correct question is....

If Vegans love animals so much then why do they eat all of their food?


Back on topic

So what's the progress on this legends coin?


~BCX~




Are your tracking pixels legendary aswell ?

How many have abandoned cryptos thanks to assholes like you ?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/tracking-pixels-split-from-mike-hearns-blacklist-thread-341146

@Psy

Hella good catch mate.

One of my fav all time tricks.

Just glad they aren't that smart in the alt section LOL


~BCX~
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