Topic: The madness of gambling addicts. - page 2. (Read 14176 times)

That is something I completely agree with, actually. It is not enough just to say people who struggle mentally to avoid gambling or tell me to feel better soon, considering the big amount of things those people go through it sounds almost insulting to even say those things to them, in my opinion.
Those people going through very serious mental problems are supposed to be access to help and actual resources for them to recover and manage to live a fulfilling and happy life. After all, health is not supposed to be a privilege, but a right.

At the very least, we can agree the first step for people with depression, anxiety and other psychological problems is not to engage with significant consumption of alcohol, drugs and spend much of their time wagering money which could use used by them to improve their quality of live.

I sincerely hope you never find yourself in a situation like that, it is pretty much beyond comprehension to those who have never suffered it by themselves.

That determination will trigger the needs of changing your way, there are cases where a gambler just realize the mistake and will do everything that he got to move away and change his direction, while for others they are keen in seeking help to aid them while trying to move away, just like what you mentioned,

if you are really determine to quit then you will find the right path and succeed to what you are aiming to happen, but if you can just simply move by emotion or by that addiction inside you, there's no way that you can change up and make things happened.

You ultimately have control of your actions.

It can be a difficult day, or week, month, or year, etc, but at the end of the day it is simply one day at a time.

You can get out of a bad situation, one day at a time. It just takes time, but if you keep advancing every day, you eventually will get better.

Gambling addiction is not just something that is normal,there is a spirit that controls it,and that spirit can not just be seen with the ordinary phisical eye, if you are spiritually inclined,then you can see that addiction is something that has been set up for man to become victim of and remain in pain and bondage of it.If you can see, everything that one tend to be addicted to always has negative impact on person.It has been designed to destroy man,that is why you can seen one sell his only land just to gamble,and after losing,he will feel like commiting suicide.

this reminds me of a small story on "reminiscences of a stock operator"
a guy tells the main character that he can't sleep because of an investment
the main character says: "you're overinvested, sell until sleeping point"

lesson in there.

I bet no individual would want to see their business collapse, the gambling companies needs more individuals to lose their bets for their business to keep booming, while gamblers wants  to keep winning so the gambling companies would keep paying either ways it all come to a conclusion that both parties want to win even though he gambling companies have an upper edge when it comes it that.
 
 Now it's left for individuals to avoid getting addicted and do the right thing to avoid getting addicted, else they'll keep filling the wallets of these gambling companies who care mostly about growing their business, if most individuals know how much these gambling sites make daily i bet most people might even stop gambling, but the thing is an addiction is not really easy to quit and the gambling platforms won't go visiting every addicted people, the only way they feel they could help is through T&C yet many don't even go through it.

Nothing can be provided they will just lean on their T&C or something alike that will allow them to show compassions or something that may let them seems caring about those gambles who are using their platforms but behind that, they will always care about the money that those people will deposit and let them gain temporary enjoyment.

Once they already addicted, everything will go smoothly to their wallets and will keep the business alive, the madness of gambling addicted person comes from how they treat gambling in their lives, without good control they will just keep repeating that same mistake from time to time.

I was looking out for the temporal solution provided by the gambling platform as you’ve referred but, you apparently didn’t suggest any. I don’t think any gambling platform would suggest anything aside from its T&C. It’s T&C like,

Not having to play repeated games,
a legal registration age grade and
Possibly, having minimum and maximum stakes per game

Is where they often draw the line and at times, it helps gamblers. Especially those who gamble large amounts but, these are gamblers who don’t really care much about the losses.

For most, you just ensure your not gambling above your limits and not always.

Yeah, that's the addictive part of gambling really.

It's the "feel good" chemicals released when you win.

It's similar to drug addiction for example, where you keep chasing that big high. But you never find it.

It can be a bit of a thrill, but that whole "winning big" fantasy is dangerous, especially for folks already struggling. For every success story, there are way more where gambling makes things worse. We need to be honest about that when we talk about it. You're right about the difference between substance addiction and gambling messing with your behavior. But both seriously impact your brain's reward system, and that knowledge needs to change how we treat those struggling.

Telling people with mental health issues to just avoid gambling ain't enough. It's a start, but we need to make mental health resources easy to find and accessible for everyone. Saying "be responsible" is great, but we gotta back it up with real support; that's how we help people. Can we get behind that?

Do gambling sites force you to gamble if you don't gamble?  Or blackmail you with something?  So how can a person blame the gambling site for his loss. Everyone gambles by their own will and when they win in gambling they enjoy the winning itself so they must also accept gambling losses. The responsibility of self-control is a personal matter of everyone and those who cannot control themselves and lose gambling will suffer and take full responsibility for it. there is no room to blame the gambling site for this

As you say, gambling is dangerous. Despite its marketing as enjoyable and a quick method to generate money, many people find it otherwise. Our brains are hooked by gambling. When you're stressed or sad, it can appear like an escape, a shortcut to solving your problems. But its not a solution.

Different gambling addictions exist. You get a rush from winning, not from a drug. Drugs and alcohol hijack your brain, but in a different way. This must be considered. Gambling addicts need help, not a harsher system. They need treatment, techniques, and an awareness of brain tricks. Focus on actual help, not temporary remedies that hurt more.

I also agree with this idea, that indeed we all or anyone is never forced to engage in gambling, everything is always about making their own decisions or what it means is that each individual decides to get involved in gambling, so of course whatever will happen or what will happen to them in the end, they will never be able to blame other parties, especially the casino itself, remember that casinos are only game providers and they do not force anyone to get involved on their site at all.

As you said above that if only they had not started then they would not have experienced the things that are now happening to them or even destroying their lives, and if they are emotional about whatever they experience such as losing then it clearly means that they are people who are not responsible for the decisions they have made.

On the other hand, I understand that everyone needs money and the winnings in gambling are in the form of money and maybe this is what makes gamblers overreact and even take actions that they are not able to account for in the end when it doesn't match their expectations, however gambling is always about the chances of winning and the possibility of losing, anyone can win which may be a very large win like you get, but unfortunately not everyone can really control their gambling activities properly.

I agree.
We cannot really blame the gambling sites in this cases whenever a person gets addicted to it. We have our own choices if we want to gamble or not and we are not going to lose or gain anything if we won't start.
The problem is, greed always wins and we want to gain more, that the thought that will always linger in our mind especially if we have tasted that win the first time.
I can tell because I have won a high multiplier many times and I always have the thought that I might repeat it one time if I have the chance. 2 days ago I did and I was surprised at how much was given. Then I decided not to gamble anymore after it.
We have the control, we should be in control and not our urge to gamble more. I think that's the real definition of a responsible gambler.

Gamling is supposed to be treated as an escape from reality, sn escape from the stress of daily life, I think. Problems start appearing when people with underlying problems come across gambling and see it as an activity which is completely from entertainment and they believe it could change their life positively, when in reality we all know it is very unlikely someone will profit in a very significant way from gambling in the long term.

Though, I would like to point out there is an important difference between addiction soto substances like alcohol or other drugs and the addiction to gambling. Problem gambling is purely behavioral, while in the case of alcohol and other drugs involve agents and chemicals which do not have anything to do with the natural production of dopamine in the brain, it is an artificial and induced production, which can lead tons more powerful dependence.

Anyways... Anyone suffering from depression, anxiety or other problems is supposed to stay away from gambling and seek for help instead.

There are usually underlying issues with gamblers, and the gambling casinos simply offer a way out of their troubles.

It's a temporary fix to a more long term issue. And the thing is that gambling can of course make these initial troubles even larger.

The key thing is to remember to keep things under control, because you might end up in a worse position trying to fix your issues.

It is similar with any other addiction, like alcohol for example.

Well, I am a person who always seeks to have the best possible to do anything, in gambling too, for example when I am going to be in a casino and play any game I always try to see the possibilities, that's why I don't worry much If I have 20usd to spend the money and that's it, I win, I lose, I leave the casino and then another day I have another gaming session, but what I think produces addiction in a person is anxiety, anxiety is something that does not allow people to sleep well, it keeps the person stressed and it keeps them there in a bad way, that is what I think can be a problem, and in this way it can be the beginning of a possible addiction, that is what a person should take care of a lot of player.

some say that freedom from desires is the path to illumination so I don't know, maybe you're right

obsessive and irrational thoughts are never good
we can't escape our minds but we can learn how to deal with them...

what do you think are the biggest challenges gamblers face?

I think that the gambler struggles not with gambling, but with his desires, which sometimes become too obsessive, and sometimes irrational. This kind of struggle is quite normal, because even if you do not gamble you will have other hobbies that as well as gambling can lead to problems if you stop controlling them. We are struggling with ourselves all our lives and there is no escape from it, this is human psychology.

It's mental disorder to inflict pain on other people for the sake of gambling. Players with such level of addiction deserve the brain surgery mentioned above. And these are just little compared to what other mentally disordered players do across the world. They neglect the needs of staying responsible for a very long duration. It's like repeatedly making mistakes, the person will get into problem.

With no observation and caution from family or close friends the gambler's problem will worsen off. Yes, addicted people are countervailing in nature. But the few close observation will help reduce some weird behaviors from the addict. Because, neglecting the addict is like shooting everyone close by on the foot. The player will definitely fetch huge troubles for his family. Though hard to help them, but it's worth a try, at the early stage.

Following the problem up immediately will make quick changes. The issue with most people is that nobody cared about stopping then when their behavior began to change. Who would want to disturb a grandpa who gambles? But they never knew their own beloved grandpa could inflict such pains on the family. They'll live with the betrayal for years. That's what negligence could cause.