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The gambling addiction also help to become the successful person in the gambling site.But the people only think about the financial problem by the gambling addiction,but they never consider about the big win in gambling by the gambling addicted.You can read about the story of the person who had won huge money in the gambling industry,in the past surely they was the gambling addiction.So don’t see the gambling addiction as the negative impact.Also need to consider about the big win in the gambling site.
But we have to realize that gambling addiction can lead people to fall deeper into gambling, especially if they keep losing. We must know that people who are successful on gambling sites are not as many as people who experience large losses on gambling sites, so we tend to say that gambling addiction will lead someone to ruin or bankruptcy. This is what we have to realize for most gamblers who end up becoming addicted to gambling will only cause more problems for themselves and the people around them.

Maybe people who are addicted to gambling can get big wins on gambling sites. But who knows that the number of wins will exceed the number of losses because many people actually experience more losses than wins. This ultimately makes many people frustrated because they cannot win like other gamblers, so they continue to gamble.
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The gambling addicted person who doesn’t have any money for the game will become the criminal for the money.At this situation some people become the criminal,but not all the gamblers.Many gamblers who get addicted to the gambling will get the loan for the many games after the no money in their bank wallets.If the gamblers had the steady money from his salary,he doesn’t get into the situation of taking the loan for the game in the gambling site.Some gambling addicts will do the ransom for the money of his own brother or sister daughter,many case was filed in my country because they involve in crime for gambling play money.
Addiction is the worst thing to happen to any potential gambler in the space, they suffer from depression and squander any money they saved on gambling which they don't even make any good use of the the profit. Gambling with your last card, that's unstable and not consider a good idea, one might tend to understand how tough it will become for them to earn figures because prediction of matches tends to become very difficult these days and most of them doesn't take any chances when they sights a golden opportunities. Gamblers are passing through a whole lot because they have wasted and gain significant amounts of their initial deposits.
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December 24, 2023, 02:05:55 AM

money is always the reason for many criminals to legalize the bad things they do and it's not just 1 or two people who claim to have committed crimes because of money, there are so many similar cases. Gambling addicts who do not have a steady income and income that can enable them to continue gambling will definitely lead to criminal activity and cases of extortion committed by gambling addicts are quite common.
Those who are addicted to gambling find it very difficult to think clearly. If you have relatives or neighbors who are like this then it's best to stay away from them or isolate them somewhere.


The gambling addicted person who doesn’t have any money for the game will become the criminal for the money.At this situation some people become the criminal,but not all the gamblers.Many gamblers who get addicted to the gambling will get the loan for the many games after the no money in their bank wallets.If the gamblers had the steady money from his salary,he doesn’t get into the situation of taking the loan for the game in the gambling site.Some gambling addicts will do the ransom for the money of his own brother or sister daughter,many case was filed in my country because they involve in crime for gambling play money.

Having a bad habit and involvement in the approach of gambling activities but not having the ability in terms of the requirements to be able to engage in gambling or meaning not having the money to be able to bet and pursue the victory they always dream of will certainly make them legalize all means, as you can most likely they will act out of control, namely becoming criminals and robbing one of the shops or homes of the rich, I think cases like this are not uncommon for us to find, especially after the number of online-based gambling which is certainly easier to understand for anyone who wants to be seen and that's why the level of addiction is increasing without realizing it.

That is why we must  remain vigilant and put full caution on our gambling activities, not impossible but on the other hand there are already a lot of gamblers who unconsciously  enter the addiction phase because they are easily tempted by everything that looks tempting which turns out to be nothing more than a temptation for them to stray further and finally addicted..
We've seen desperation turn an innocent hobbyist into a criminal. A slippery slope, right? The terrible side of gambling addiction must be acknowledged by society. It's costly to lose one's morality as well as money. Not fear-mongering; just the truth. Growing internet gambling platforms have fuelled this fire. The ease of access and appearance of rapid wins lure naive victims into dangerous waters. We must recognize this trend.

Awareness is essential but insufficient. We need strong preventive and rehabilitative support. Educating individuals about addiction risks, symptoms, and treatment is our first defense. It's a battle to prevent addiction and help those recovering. Online gambling platforms should be regulated to prevent them from exploiting the vulnerable. Remember, we need empathy. Those who are addicted to gambling are persons, not statistics, and deserve our aid, not judgment.
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December 23, 2023, 08:16:40 PM
The mistreatment of a family member, especially a granddaughter, is a separate matter that suggests deeper psychological issues. It's essential to address the root causes of such behavior and consider appropriate interventions, which may involve both legal consequences and mental health support. Severe sentences alone may not be a comprehensive solution, but a holistic approach that combines legal actions with rehabilitation efforts could be more effective in fostering positive change.
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A Shanghai man was sentenced to prison for kidnapping his own granddaughter so he could maintain his gambling addiction with the ransom money.

The kidnapping — orchestrated by a 65-year-old man identified only by his surname, Yuan — was first reported by the Shanghai Law and Rule Journal. The legal news outlet didn't specify when the incident occurred but wrote on April 18 that Yuan had just started serving his prison sentence.

Yuan kicked off his plan by picking up his four-year-old granddaughter from her kindergarten and taking her out to eat and shop without her mother's knowledge, the Journal reported.

[1] https://www.insider.com/shanghai-man-kidnapped-his-own-granddaughter-for-72000-report-2023-4
[2] https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/grandpa-in-china-kidnaps-own-granddaughter-demands-ransom-so-he-can-continue-gambling

many gambling addicts have lost their minds because their desire to continue gambling overpowers their common sense, hence the importance of "gambling responsibly"

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There are three licensing objectives which support the whole basis of gambling regulation:

- that crime should be kept out of gambling
- it should be conducted in a fair and open way
- children and other vulnerable persons should be protected from harm or exploitation from gambling.

[1] https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/licensees-and-businesses/guide/social-responsibility
A gambler must gamble responsibly. When a person cannot participate in gambling responsibly, he becomes addicted to gambling. A responsible person can never become addicted to gambling.

The person the mentioned here is a total gambling addict not just a gambling addict he is a mental patient otherwise he would never have treated his family's little granddaughter the way he did. This person should be given a severe sentence because after seeing his severe sentence, many gambling addicts will reform themselves.
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December 23, 2023, 07:57:50 PM

money is always the reason for many criminals to legalize the bad things they do and it's not just 1 or two people who claim to have committed crimes because of money, there are so many similar cases. Gambling addicts who do not have a steady income and income that can enable them to continue gambling will definitely lead to criminal activity and cases of extortion committed by gambling addicts are quite common.
Those who are addicted to gambling find it very difficult to think clearly. If you have relatives or neighbors who are like this then it's best to stay away from them or isolate them somewhere.


The gambling addicted person who doesn’t have any money for the game will become the criminal for the money.At this situation some people become the criminal,but not all the gamblers.Many gamblers who get addicted to the gambling will get the loan for the many games after the no money in their bank wallets.If the gamblers had the steady money from his salary,he doesn’t get into the situation of taking the loan for the game in the gambling site.Some gambling addicts will do the ransom for the money of his own brother or sister daughter,many case was filed in my country because they involve in crime for gambling play money.

Having a bad habit and involvement in the approach of gambling activities but not having the ability in terms of the requirements to be able to engage in gambling or meaning not having the money to be able to bet and pursue the victory they always dream of will certainly make them legalize all means, as you can most likely they will act out of control, namely becoming criminals and robbing one of the shops or homes of the rich, I think cases like this are not uncommon for us to find, especially after the number of online-based gambling which is certainly easier to understand for anyone who wants to be seen and that's why the level of addiction is increasing without realizing it.

That is why we must  remain vigilant and put full caution on our gambling activities, not impossible but on the other hand there are already a lot of gamblers who unconsciously  enter the addiction phase because they are easily tempted by everything that looks tempting which turns out to be nothing more than a temptation for them to stray further and finally addicted..
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December 23, 2023, 06:34:02 PM

Yeah, you're correct mate, pressure from family members can help an addicted gambler to quite gambling but, it will take some time and enough effort for om the family members, at first the gambler might even show less concern about their advice and pressure but I believe with the time he'll realize himself. Though there are still some gamblers out there that family pressure, love nor advise from family members could change their decision about gambling. Besides, gambling addiction doesn't literally mean a gambler who is prone to loses, a gambling addict can even make huge wins that has been his reason for becoming a gamble addict.
Family and friends have a very good role to play in helping gamblers get rid of their bad and unhealthy addiction for those who has gotten to the level of addiction. Although it may be slow and take some time because it will require a continuous pressure to get them to stop, but then it will eventually help and in some cases they quit as a result of the pressure mounted on them.

Sometimes some gamblers quit almost immediately they are been advised by their families to quit but some literally take some time to get in terms with the fact that their habit is affecting their relationship with their families huge wins amidst trying to quit is a huge motivation to keep them gambling because they will always want to try.again if they could be lucky the next time but then it may be their unlucky trial. Some gamblers at just adamant about quitting and it will take their self decision to quit.
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December 23, 2023, 06:22:24 PM

money is always the reason for many criminals to legalize the bad things they do and it's not just 1 or two people who claim to have committed crimes because of money, there are so many similar cases. Gambling addicts who do not have a steady income and income that can enable them to continue gambling will definitely lead to criminal activity and cases of extortion committed by gambling addicts are quite common.
Those who are addicted to gambling find it very difficult to think clearly. If you have relatives or neighbors who are like this then it's best to stay away from them or isolate them somewhere.


The gambling addicted person who doesn’t have any money for the game will become the criminal for the money.At this situation some people become the criminal,but not all the gamblers.Many gamblers who get addicted to the gambling will get the loan for the many games after the no money in their bank wallets.If the gamblers had the steady money from his salary,he doesn’t get into the situation of taking the loan for the game in the gambling site.Some gambling addicts will do the ransom for the money of his own brother or sister daughter,many case was filed in my country because they involve in crime for gambling play money.
If you are that someone whose really that playing gambling for the sake of money or having that profit then you are that someone whose really that desperate with that then you are really that bound to lose money or make yourself that getting devastated and this is something that must really be that avoided in the first place. You would really be just that making realizations on the time that
you would be experiencing those hardships but actually these things should really be have done earlier so that you wont really be ending up yourself on experiencing those unfortunate events.
Getting yourself that addicted just because you are really that having hopes that making yourself with those big profits? you are just basically putting up yourself in harm.
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December 23, 2023, 06:11:04 PM

money is always the reason for many criminals to legalize the bad things they do and it's not just 1 or two people who claim to have committed crimes because of money, there are so many similar cases. Gambling addicts who do not have a steady income and income that can enable them to continue gambling will definitely lead to criminal activity and cases of extortion committed by gambling addicts are quite common.
Those who are addicted to gambling find it very difficult to think clearly. If you have relatives or neighbors who are like this then it's best to stay away from them or isolate them somewhere.


The gambling addicted person who doesn’t have any money for the game will become the criminal for the money.At this situation some people become the criminal,but not all the gamblers.Many gamblers who get addicted to the gambling will get the loan for the many games after the no money in their bank wallets.If the gamblers had the steady money from his salary,he doesn’t get into the situation of taking the loan for the game in the gambling site.Some gambling addicts will do the ransom for the money of his own brother or sister daughter,many case was filed in my country because they involve in crime for gambling play money.
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Some people end up spending more money and getting more addicted to gambling as a result of them being busy trying to prove to others that they can be able to make it out from no where I mean those already made kids who did not suffer for anything they try to make use of the money in their possession to gamble and see if they can make some large winning and make sure they win something out for them self which they end up not even winning a penny instead they still wasteful gamble with the little in their possession.

it's interesting how sometimes the same thing (money) can be a blessing and a curse
for some people money can solve problems, they can use it to build things that will help not only them but the whole world
for others money can be a curse and they won't be able to update their mindset on deserving it and will end up losing or spending it all...

money is always the reason for many criminals to legalize the bad things they do and it's not just 1 or two people who claim to have committed crimes because of money, there are so many similar cases. Gambling addicts who do not have a steady income and income that can enable them to continue gambling will definitely lead to criminal activity and cases of extortion committed by gambling addicts are quite common.
Those who are addicted to gambling find it very difficult to think clearly. If you have relatives or neighbors who are like this then it's best to stay away from them or isolate them somewhere.
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Yes, everything has its advantages and disadvantages. We must use the advantages and leave the disadvantages behind and only use our knowledge to avoid problems that might occur. And money is like a double-edged sword that can be beneficial and detrimental depending on how we use it. And if we use that money for gambling, that means we have wasted other benefits of money just because we want to make money from gambling. But if we can use money well, we can get something useful for our lives. If we can work hard to make money, we should use it for things that can do us good so we don't waste money. And if we already have money, we don't need to follow what other people do because each person's needs will also be different.

The gambling addiction also help to become the successful person in the gambling site.But the people only think about the financial problem by the gambling addiction,but they never consider about the big win in gambling by the gambling addicted.You can read about the story of the person who had won huge money in the gambling industry,in the past surely they was the gambling addiction.So don’t see the gambling addiction as the negative impact.Also need to consider about the big win in the gambling site.


Understandably, responsibility has a way of intilling discipline and make us narrow down our activities to priorities. Family  is indeed a huge priority that must be attended to before anything else. So when the fund is not enough,  family will be the first focus before any other thing. This alone will put gambling addiction under control.

Any gambler that want to fail the family will have to think deeply before taking that decision. Some people actually gamble in secret without the notice of the family. This is not the best approach because the family should know what one is doing if that activity have a tendency of affecting the family.

The some gambler will not look about the family after the gambling addiction which even leads to the patrician of the family.The gambler should take care of their family and bank roll while he was involved in the gambling.It help their addiction will not affect their real life.
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December 23, 2023, 05:00:24 PM
Yes, everything has its advantages and disadvantages. We must use the advantages and leave the disadvantages behind and only use our knowledge to avoid problems that might occur. And money is like a double-edged sword that can be beneficial and detrimental depending on how we use it. And if we use that money for gambling, that means we have wasted other benefits of money just because we want to make money from gambling. But if we can use money well, we can get something useful for our lives. If we can work hard to make money, we should use it for things that can do us good so we don't waste money. And if we already have money, we don't need to follow what other people do because each person's needs will also be different.
All our behavior depends on how we utilize money for a better life or using money incorrectly can worsen our financial condition, so people will think unhealthy when they have lost everything in gambling, such as the explanation in the main thread that a man kidnapped his granddaughter to expect ransom because he was already addicted to gambling and he didn't have anything to bet on gambling, he was determined to do it to maintain his gambling addiction even though he knew the risk of being connected to the police and prison was waiting for him.

there are many other cases of the unreasonable impact of gambling because gambling addicts are desperate to do anything to get money and bet again, their lives are haunted by the lust of gambling and they don't care about their families and even blackmail them, this ridiculous act must be stopped and gamblers must limit their gambling activities and should gamble responsibly.
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December 23, 2023, 04:31:06 PM
it's interesting how sometimes the same thing (money) can be a blessing and a curse
for some people money can solve problems, they can use it to build things that will help not only them but the whole world
for others money can be a curse and they won't be able to update their mindset on deserving it and will end up losing or spending it all...
That’s just the way of life that we found our self, almost everything that we see that have an advantage also have a disadvantage the only thing their now is how the person who have access to that makes use of it, many people who are wealthy all they think is how to spend the money and make history why some people who are not privileged enough to have that money are working so hard every day to try and achieve just a little of what the rich are using to gamble every single day without even feeling it that a penny left their wealth.
Yes, everything has its advantages and disadvantages. We must use the advantages and leave the disadvantages behind and only use our knowledge to avoid problems that might occur. And money is like a double-edged sword that can be beneficial and detrimental depending on how we use it. And if we use that money for gambling, that means we have wasted other benefits of money just because we want to make money from gambling. But if we can use money well, we can get something useful for our lives. If we can work hard to make money, we should use it for things that can do us good so we don't waste money. And if we already have money, we don't need to follow what other people do because each person's needs will also be different.
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December 23, 2023, 02:42:40 PM
The gambling people who was married will get additional pressure from their family reflated financial problems.So how he play the peaceful game in the gambling site with the financial problems from their family,the gamblers may not have the money for the future gambling.Because of the financial problems in their families,if the gamblers had the children he need to allot some money for the children education expenses.As we know the education fee for the children was high for now,So the gamblers should spend the money from his salary for their education too.The term fee for two or more children in his family will leads to the gambler to spend fifty percentage of his income.Then how he have dollars to play the gambling game,this may leads to complete exit from the game.
Pressure from the family might help gambling addicts to quit gambling. The family is indeed very appropriate to help a gambling addict gradually get out of the fun that drains their family's finances.
is a bad choice when we have financial problems in the family but still gamble. instead of wanting to make money from gambling, I don't like people who consider gambling as a place to earn income. unless you are a casino platform developer.
Understandably, responsibility has a way of intilling discipline and make us narrow down our activities to priorities. Family  is indeed a huge priority that must be attended to before anything else. So when the fund is not enough,  family will be the first focus before any other thing. This alone will put gambling addiction under control.

Any gambler that want to fail the family will have to think deeply before taking that decision. Some people actually gamble in secret without the notice of the family. This is not the best approach because the family should know what one is doing if that activity have a tendency of affecting the family.

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December 23, 2023, 12:36:02 PM
do you think some people can get to gambling too because they have too much disposable income and don't think they deserve all the money they got?
could be a thing too imo.

having a support network definitely helps a lot.

This could also be it, there are people who are very wealthy like they made their money out of no where, either they made it illegally or base on inheritance some of them just see their self that they don’t suffer for the money and as such they should spend more on gambling to see if they can either win more money from trying out their luck or if they can just make the casino more richer.

Some people end up spending more money and getting more addicted to gambling as a result of them being busy trying to prove to others that they can be able to make it out from no where I mean those already made kids who did not suffer for anything they try to make use of the money in their possession to gamble and see if they can make some large winning and make sure they win something out for them self which they end up not even winning a penny instead they still wasteful gamble with the little in their possession.

it's interesting how sometimes the same thing (money) can be a blessing and a curse
for some people money can solve problems, they can use it to build things that will help not only them but the whole world
for others money can be a curse and they won't be able to update their mindset on deserving it and will end up losing or spending it all...

There are a lot of factors that cause people to use money for their own benefit or use it in a manner that we can consider a curse. For example, their surroundings and the environment, if they grow up with mindsets like what they can mirror or see in their parents. If one has the privilege to focus on their study and train their talents or skills for sure they could build up things that could help them in the future which would contribute to the community as well. While the other one lacks support, I think it would be a handicap for them to explore and leave their comfort zone as they are used to in their past. Though gambling addicts wouldn't be as excused but for sure they would need professional help.
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December 23, 2023, 12:03:54 PM
Family factors may be able to help gambling addicts to stop temporarily if their financial condition is unstable or insufficient, but it depends on the attitude of the gambling addict himself. Sometimes there are also selfish gamblers who only think about themselves and only want to carry out their gambling activities so that they can do more. setting aside money for gambling rather than thinking about their family, there are rarely addicts who can really stop even though their financial condition is unstable and there are even those who are desperate to take out loans just to continue their activities this is for chronic addicts. But for ordinary addicts it's normal and they can still do it advised that they can stop due to various factors and one of them may be to meet the needs of the family.

On my point it is not sometimes but most of the time, gambling addicted individual are selfish becuase they are just caring with what they want and they will push to continue even they already wasting money when they are in sessions, I think people who have this kind of situation needs to continue being close to their love ones, the pressure that those people provide will help to realize that there's already a problem that needed to address.

Just need to make sure that the person that have that kind of issue is willing to submit his situation and have that self-will to work with anyone who's giving aid to help.

The condition of some gamblers is not interesting and would need the intervention of loved ones to help save them gambler from addiction. Because the player is no longer in control of his actions. Mental disorders can lead to problems and misfortunes for most gamblers. The lifestyle of gambling addicts doesn't differ, they have similar risks and are prone to taking loans for gambling purposes. The aim of gambling is tarnished by these gamblers. Their attitude spoils the impression people have of gambling if they had. Addiction is chronic and takes a long time to heal. Even if a player opens up to his loved ones or family, they'll still spend lots of money trying to cure or save him from living a terrific lifestyle. The selfishness erupts in them because their brain only revolves around gambling and the player won't be able to help it. In most cases, the family of the gambler won't know of this, because they fail to be attentive or observant of their close friends. I don't understand, Fredomago, what you mean by ordinary addicts, but I'd say that in your response it could mean that they are just new to gambling addiction.

The only difficult aspect of such addiction is that only a few addicts would be able to find out that they're now addicted to gambling.

Mainly, most gamblers figure out about their problem gambling, when in the middle of it, and won't be able to change easily. If the player is lucky enough to find out early, then he's still a bit in control of himself, then he's not yet fully an addicted gambler. Families are great resources when we find ourselves in certain life-troubling situations like gambling. But, it's always a turn in their flesh, because they'll have to take care of all the mistakes of their ward or loved one. Imagine in a situation where the gambler has taken loans, his family will have to pay off the debt. Hence it's not always easy to find a family that'll heartedly help a gambling addict. The problem mainly revolves around blame and accusations. Either the family blames the gambler for his problems or the addict accuses his family of putting him in such a hard condition. Both parties may not accept the responsibility. Thereby increasing the problem.

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December 23, 2023, 11:20:04 AM
it's interesting how sometimes the same thing (money) can be a blessing and a curse
for some people money can solve problems, they can use it to build things that will help not only them but the whole world
for others money can be a curse and they won't be able to update their mindset on deserving it and will end up losing or spending it all...
That’s just the way of life that we found our self, almost everything that we see that have an advantage also have a disadvantage the only thing their now is how the person who have access to that makes use of it, many people who are wealthy all they think is how to spend the money and make history why some people who are not privileged enough to have that money are working so hard every day to try and achieve just a little of what the rich are using to gamble every single day without even feeling it that a penny left their wealth.
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December 23, 2023, 05:46:28 AM
do you think some people can get to gambling too because they have too much disposable income and don't think they deserve all the money they got?
could be a thing too imo.

having a support network definitely helps a lot.

This could also be it, there are people who are very wealthy like they made their money out of no where, either they made it illegally or base on inheritance some of them just see their self that they don’t suffer for the money and as such they should spend more on gambling to see if they can either win more money from trying out their luck or if they can just make the casino more richer.

Some people end up spending more money and getting more addicted to gambling as a result of them being busy trying to prove to others that they can be able to make it out from no where I mean those already made kids who did not suffer for anything they try to make use of the money in their possession to gamble and see if they can make some large winning and make sure they win something out for them self which they end up not even winning a penny instead they still wasteful gamble with the little in their possession.

it's interesting how sometimes the same thing (money) can be a blessing and a curse
for some people money can solve problems, they can use it to build things that will help not only them but the whole world
for others money can be a curse and they won't be able to update their mindset on deserving it and will end up losing or spending it all...
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December 20, 2023, 04:26:34 AM
Just need to make sure that the person that have that kind of issue is willing to submit his situation and have that self-will to work with anyone who's giving aid to help.
If the severity level is so severe, it is better to open up about the addiction to people around you who can be trusted or family, but if the severity level is still not too serious, it is better to start from yourself to heal yourself from addiction and save yourself starting from getting used to reducing it. gambling and not stopping in a way that really tortures yourself, that's not the way to recover from gambling madness.

Learn to understand yourself, how big the level of addiction and madness is in yourself, if it is still at a low stage, it should still be saved by reducing the habit of gambling, the point is to be consistent with doing that because it is not that easy to get rid of the madness and habit of gambling, especially if it has become an addiction, everything has to go through a process. which takes time.
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December 20, 2023, 04:18:58 AM
The real gambling addicts are those who never take care of their family despite how much failure they encounter, they still continue to gamble while neglecting their family , that is really crazy and the height of addiction. Those class of people need serious support from their families because they can't help themselves anymore. Some additions go as far as taking up loan on behalf of their wives without her knowledge just because their fingers are biting them to gamble yet at the end nothing positive will come of it leaving the family in debt. When this loan is consistently done then it sets the family into financial mess .

Then it makes that lonely orphan can never be addicted, right? Something does not go right here then. When watching stories about gambling addicted persons, story hero is usually a lonely person, that lives in a poor conditions. The portrait of gambling addicted person is opposite: abandoned, lonely, addicted to alcohol person age 35-50. For me, gambling addicted person can be any person that seeks every financial solution in gambling. For example, a person wants to buy something. He has money to buy it, but he would rather gamble, win, withdraw, buy. Then spend his own money. Sort of getting things for free or without spending money. That is what madness of gambling addiction looks to me.
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