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December 13, 2023, 09:02:51 AM

yes, there are many of such cases in gambling and these are definitely not good
playing with money is only good if you're playing with money you can afford to lose and if it doesn't affect your life in a really negative way.
what are the things people can try to learn and practice that will believe they not to fall victim of these kind of situations?

They should just simply look at the result of their actions both good sides and bad sides, if they see that there is more harm than benefits, they should just leave it and look for other good activities or hobbies that could help them progress safely. This is not the case for most people because they want some risk and they are rushing things without reflecting on the consequences. The result often leads to broken families and misery because of what they failed to understand before engaging in such actions.
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December 13, 2023, 06:59:00 AM
That is crazy I mean the news said he is the grandpa's same blood right, after this happened I don't know what happened with this family I think its gonna fall apart. In my opinion gambling is just for fun that evolve money not gonna explode like this one.

I hope case like this wont happen again.

yes, there are many of such cases in gambling and these are definitely not good
playing with money is only good if you're playing with money you can afford to lose and if it doesn't affect your life in a really negative way.
what are the things people can try to learn and practice that will believe they not to fall victim of these kind of situations?
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December 09, 2023, 10:08:14 PM
That is crazy I mean the news said he is the grandpa's same blood right, after this happened I don't know what happened with this family I think its gonna fall apart. In my opinion gambling is just for fun that evolve money not gonna explode like this one.

I hope case like this wont happen again.
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December 09, 2023, 05:52:37 PM
If will of gambler is not present in leaving gambling then no matter how hard his family treat him or set restrictions for him he will not decide to leave it because addiction is the thing which is hard to leave even your family and friends tell you all pros and cons of gambling. If individuals involved in gambling think himself that he is doing wrong activity then there is a possibility that he will shortly leave gambling. If a person is gambling but not for whole day then he can easily get rid of it otherwise a person once start selling of materials for getting money for gambling then such case become a cause of depression for both gambler and his family.
In terms of leaving the gambling habit, it has no influence on the person who tells us to stop gambling, because to stop gambling will really depend on ourselves, if we don't want to stop then whoever tells us to stop gambling will not have any impact. for ourselves and the worst thing is for those who have experienced gambling addiction. People who experience this addiction disturb the comfort of those closest to them and this is very bad.
Some person are open minded and does accept advises but most of us wont really be putting up much care into those people who are around. They wont really be listening into those advises
and they would really be sticking into the things on which they do really believe that it would really be followed no matter what. On the time that you are already addicted with gambling
then it would really be already hard to resist on not to play and this is why it would really be that so common that gamblers will really be playing until the last drop of their funds on which
it is really just that a  common approach on which you would really be playing until your dead. Realization would be always coming at the end of the line on which it is really just that
normal that you would really be having those kind of regrets.
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December 09, 2023, 05:45:58 PM
If will of gambler is not present in leaving gambling then no matter how hard his family treat him or set restrictions for him he will not decide to leave it because addiction is the thing which is hard to leave even your family and friends tell you all pros and cons of gambling. If individuals involved in gambling think himself that he is doing wrong activity then there is a possibility that he will shortly leave gambling. If a person is gambling but not for whole day then he can easily get rid of it otherwise a person once start selling of materials for getting money for gambling then such case become a cause of depression for both gambler and his family.
In terms of leaving the gambling habit, it has no influence on the person who tells us to stop gambling, because to stop gambling will really depend on ourselves, if we don't want to stop then whoever tells us to stop gambling will not have any impact. for ourselves and the worst thing is for those who have experienced gambling addiction. People who experience this addiction disturb the comfort of those closest to them and this is very bad.

Indeed, even how hard those people will going to try helping an addicted gambler, if the person itself is not willing to surrender or not willing to cooperate to resolve the issue then there's no impact that will take place, addicted gambler can extend to the point that you are unexpected them to do so, things that not usual from what they usually doing.

It's unfortunate that addiction dominated inside them and they are unable to control whatever their desire push them, the only matter is to continue playing no matter what is the cost of their gambling sessions.

Because gambling addiction is very different from some other addictions such as drugs that can be treated medically or maybe rehabilitation, but for the problem of gambling addiction I think it is still quite difficult to find a cure, because this disease is in the human mindset which means that if they really don't want or don't have the intention to stop then obviously some suggestions that even though they seem reasonable will not fully help them, maybe only a few percent. Gamblers who are already addicted will not be able to accept such advice because they have their own beliefs and mindset even though their mindset is generally unreasonable.

They feel like they are fine with their bad habits when in reality the changes are very visible and significant especially in terms of their finances. Basically, addiction can come from anywhere consciously and unconsciously, but I think lately more of them are entering the addiction phase unconsciously which starts from the scenario of not being able to accept all the risks of losing which ultimately makes them continue to chase defeat until they enter the cycle of "winning addiction and losing curiosity". Honestly, I can't give any advice that might be quite effective, because the problem of belief and mindset and also habits is difficult to change, maybe they just need time to answer it.
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December 09, 2023, 05:16:19 PM
If will of gambler is not present in leaving gambling then no matter how hard his family treat him or set restrictions for him he will not decide to leave it because addiction is the thing which is hard to leave even your family and friends tell you all pros and cons of gambling. If individuals involved in gambling think himself that he is doing wrong activity then there is a possibility that he will shortly leave gambling. If a person is gambling but not for whole day then he can easily get rid of it otherwise a person once start selling of materials for getting money for gambling then such case become a cause of depression for both gambler and his family.
In terms of leaving the gambling habit, it has no influence on the person who tells us to stop gambling, because to stop gambling will really depend on ourselves, if we don't want to stop then whoever tells us to stop gambling will not have any impact. for ourselves and the worst thing is for those who have experienced gambling addiction. People who experience this addiction disturb the comfort of those closest to them and this is very bad.

Indeed, even how hard those people will going to try helping an addicted gambler, if the person itself is not willing to surrender or not willing to cooperate to resolve the issue then there's no impact that will take place, addicted gambler can extend to the point that you are unexpected them to do so, things that not usual from what they usually doing.

It's unfortunate that addiction dominated inside them and they are unable to control whatever their desire push them, the only matter is to continue playing no matter what is the cost of their gambling sessions.
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December 09, 2023, 12:14:28 AM
If will of gambler is not present in leaving gambling then no matter how hard his family treat him or set restrictions for him he will not decide to leave it because addiction is the thing which is hard to leave even your family and friends tell you all pros and cons of gambling. If individuals involved in gambling think himself that he is doing wrong activity then there is a possibility that he will shortly leave gambling. If a person is gambling but not for whole day then he can easily get rid of it otherwise a person once start selling of materials for getting money for gambling then such case become a cause of depression for both gambler and his family.
In terms of leaving the gambling habit, it has no influence on the person who tells us to stop gambling, because to stop gambling will really depend on ourselves, if we don't want to stop then whoever tells us to stop gambling will not have any impact. for ourselves and the worst thing is for those who have experienced gambling addiction. People who experience this addiction disturb the comfort of those closest to them and this is very bad.
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December 08, 2023, 09:17:48 PM
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do you think some people can get to gambling too because they have too much disposable income and don't think they deserve all the money they got?
could be a thing too imo.

having a support network definitely helps a lot.

I really think that most actual rich people never or very rarely gamble. It's usually the poorest people the ones that are gambling.

If you think about it, the rich already have money, so there's no incentive to gamble.

For the working class though, that's a different story, they are buying a hope to become rich. That's gambling.
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December 08, 2023, 10:50:10 AM

   -   I think that no matter how high the level of closeness an addicted gambler has with his own family or friends, if he doesn't want to help himself change from being addicted to gambling or drugs, it will still be difficult. on the part of the addicted gambler, in my opinion.

But even so, if the addicted gambler himself decides to change and is accompanied by the support of his family and close friends, I also think that his recovery from the addiction he wants to get out of will be fast.

If will of gambler is not present in leaving gambling then no matter how hard his family treat him or set restrictions for him he will not decide to leave it because addiction is the thing which is hard to leave even your family and friends tell you all pros and cons of gambling. If individuals involved in gambling think himself that he is doing wrong activity then there is a possibility that he will shortly leave gambling. If a person is gambling but not for whole day then he can easily get rid of it otherwise a person once start selling of materials for getting money for gambling then such case become a cause of depression for both gambler and his family.

do you think some people can get to gambling too because they have too much disposable income and don't think they deserve all the money they got?
could be a thing too imo.

having a support network definitely helps a lot.
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December 02, 2023, 04:46:02 AM

   -   I think that no matter how high the level of closeness an addicted gambler has with his own family or friends, if he doesn't want to help himself change from being addicted to gambling or drugs, it will still be difficult. on the part of the addicted gambler, in my opinion.

But even so, if the addicted gambler himself decides to change and is accompanied by the support of his family and close friends, I also think that his recovery from the addiction he wants to get out of will be fast.

If will of gambler is not present in leaving gambling then no matter how hard his family treat him or set restrictions for him he will not decide to leave it because addiction is the thing which is hard to leave even your family and friends tell you all pros and cons of gambling. If individuals involved in gambling think himself that he is doing wrong activity then there is a possibility that he will shortly leave gambling. If a person is gambling but not for whole day then he can easily get rid of it otherwise a person once start selling of materials for getting money for gambling then such case become a cause of depression for both gambler and his family.
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December 02, 2023, 04:29:23 AM
Yes that's right, because the role of the closest people such as family or partners is very important for a person's life especially those who are experiencing addiction problems, some suggestions may be quite useful to help raise their awareness and with that it is clear that I think they will try to heal slowly in a way that is suggested by some of the closest people or from other references such as professionals.

As I said before, it is indeed possible to happen or I mean they will be able to heal themselves and get out of the addiction zone but it may take a long time sometimes even though there is a lot of encouragement from the family but still it will not run instantly, mindset and habits are something that is very difficult to change so it is only natural that they take a long time because the healing process will run slowly. One of the ways that can be done as a driver of his recovery may be to divert his attention to several other activities, such as adding part-time jobs or other things that are important that can keep them very busy every day so that their minds are distracted from gambling.
That is why if a gambling addict can still see his family accompanying him while he is undergoing therapy, he should feel lucky because perhaps not many families can do this. Maybe other families are so busy that they will let the gambling addict undergo therapy alone. But if he had the desire to cure himself of his gambling addiction, he wouldn't care about the presence or absence of his family because he would only think about himself.

Even though it took a long time because he healed himself without any family to accompany him, it was actually okay because he had realized that no matter what, he had to be able to recover from his gambling addiction. Having no people from his family accompany him to undergo therapy made him stronger to survive because he really wanted to recover and improve his life, which had deviated from his goals. He may be even harder on himself to get through the healing process because he knows that he is now relying on himself to recover from his gambling addiction. People like this should get appreciation because they can survive the healing process well and can do it alone when other gambling addicts are accompanied by their families.
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December 01, 2023, 12:38:58 PM
Yes, I read somewhere that drug addicts can recover much faster and not go back to drugs if they had a healthy network of family and friends around them to support them.

The addiction itself is powerful, but the social bonds are even more powerful.

It's great to know there is hope for everyone.
this means the same as when a gambling addict has a solid family and a healthy environment free from gambling, of course a gambling addict will find it very easy to stop his gambling addiction because of very strong support as you said.

I will not give too far an example and I will give an example to myself when I come to a group of people who dont gamble, of course we will discuss other things that are more positive so that our minds will never think about gambling, but when I come here a group of people who like to gamble will definitely discuss gambling and in fact our minds will start to reappear about wanting to try gambling again.

well, maybe that a simple example that might be easier for us all to understand. even if someone has a high level of commitment, living in an environment where gamblers will definitely one day be tempted to gamble again because the minds of gambling addicts are very complicated and they always think about gambling and are easily tempted.

     -   I think that no matter how high the level of closeness an addicted gambler has with his own family or friends, if he doesn't want to help himself change from being addicted to gambling or drugs, it will still be difficult. on the part of the addicted gambler, in my opinion.

But even so, if the addicted gambler himself decides to change and is accompanied by the support of his family and close friends, I also think that his recovery from the addiction he wants to get out of will be fast.

that's a good point
you can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped
in the end we are the true agents of change in our own lives... we have to decide and take action
people can show us the doors but we have to go, open and enter them.
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December 01, 2023, 05:45:23 AM
Basically the support of the people we love will indeed have a big role and it is important for a change provided that someone who is already addicted has a little awareness, and after that of course that usually some good advice is very difficult to accept by them but maybe now the situation is different when they already have a pretty good awareness. As you said slowly they will be able to change and I believe that it will really happen, they will probably obey some of the advice given by people they love.

And after that maybe we can only wait for the time, they will change slowly but that doesn't matter because getting out of the addiction zone is quite difficult so it's only natural that they do it slowly in changing their bad habits for the better and over time maybe they will really be able to forget about gambling because their interest has decreased.
With support from people we care about, we can give strength to addicted people who are undergoing therapy to be able to do what is necessary so that they are able to survive the pain they may feel. Having loved ones is what makes them slowly begin to have the awareness to accept the fact that they must be able to cure themselves of addiction. They will also see that they still have people close to them who still love them and want them back after their therapy. With such understanding, accompanied by a sense of love from their family, they are able to survive and complete the therapy.

Getting out of the addiction zone takes time but with support from their family, they will no longer see time but will have the strength to be able to complete each therapy session. They just want to really cure their gambling addiction because there are still people who love them and are waiting for them after they recover. Attention from the family will give them more encouragement to continue undergoing therapy until they recover and return to their families.

Yes that's right, because the role of the closest people such as family or partners is very important for a person's life especially those who are experiencing addiction problems, some suggestions may be quite useful to help raise their awareness and with that it is clear that I think they will try to heal slowly in a way that is suggested by some of the closest people or from other references such as professionals.

As I said before, it is indeed possible to happen or I mean they will be able to heal themselves and get out of the addiction zone but it may take a long time sometimes even though there is a lot of encouragement from the family but still it will not run instantly, mindset and habits are something that is very difficult to change so it is only natural that they take a long time because the healing process will run slowly. One of the ways that can be done as a driver of his recovery may be to divert his attention to several other activities, such as adding part-time jobs or other things that are important that can keep them very busy every day so that their minds are distracted from gambling.
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December 01, 2023, 02:17:45 AM
Yes, I read somewhere that drug addicts can recover much faster and not go back to drugs if they had a healthy network of family and friends around them to support them.

The addiction itself is powerful, but the social bonds are even more powerful.

It's great to know there is hope for everyone.
this means the same as when a gambling addict has a solid family and a healthy environment free from gambling, of course a gambling addict will find it very easy to stop his gambling addiction because of very strong support as you said.

I will not give too far an example and I will give an example to myself when I come to a group of people who dont gamble, of course we will discuss other things that are more positive so that our minds will never think about gambling, but when I come here a group of people who like to gamble will definitely discuss gambling and in fact our minds will start to reappear about wanting to try gambling again.

well, maybe that a simple example that might be easier for us all to understand. even if someone has a high level of commitment, living in an environment where gamblers will definitely one day be tempted to gamble again because the minds of gambling addicts are very complicated and they always think about gambling and are easily tempted.

     -   I think that no matter how high the level of closeness an addicted gambler has with his own family or friends, if he doesn't want to help himself change from being addicted to gambling or drugs, it will still be difficult. on the part of the addicted gambler, in my opinion.

But even so, if the addicted gambler himself decides to change and is accompanied by the support of his family and close friends, I also think that his recovery from the addiction he wants to get out of will be fast.
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December 01, 2023, 01:17:19 AM
Basically the support of the people we love will indeed have a big role and it is important for a change provided that someone who is already addicted has a little awareness, and after that of course that usually some good advice is very difficult to accept by them but maybe now the situation is different when they already have a pretty good awareness. As you said slowly they will be able to change and I believe that it will really happen, they will probably obey some of the advice given by people they love.

And after that maybe we can only wait for the time, they will change slowly but that doesn't matter because getting out of the addiction zone is quite difficult so it's only natural that they do it slowly in changing their bad habits for the better and over time maybe they will really be able to forget about gambling because their interest has decreased.
With support from people we care about, we can give strength to addicted people who are undergoing therapy to be able to do what is necessary so that they are able to survive the pain they may feel. Having loved ones is what makes them slowly begin to have the awareness to accept the fact that they must be able to cure themselves of addiction. They will also see that they still have people close to them who still love them and want them back after their therapy. With such understanding, accompanied by a sense of love from their family, they are able to survive and complete the therapy.

Getting out of the addiction zone takes time but with support from their family, they will no longer see time but will have the strength to be able to complete each therapy session. They just want to really cure their gambling addiction because there are still people who love them and are waiting for them after they recover. Attention from the family will give them more encouragement to continue undergoing therapy until they recover and return to their families.
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November 30, 2023, 06:43:37 PM
~snip~
Using that support from your love ones will push your determination to quit away, though there's a certain level  of addiction where gambler really doing things unexpectedly,  but going back to that argument,  you can seek help and feel  that support to encourage yourself to keep improving,  each day that will pass by with your interest  to keep away  from your vices the support of you love one's will serve as your inspiration to keep pushing your way out.

Yeah, it is just one day at a time.

Slowly, the brain starts to change, and eventually the gambling will be just a long distant memory
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November 30, 2023, 02:04:34 PM
I will not give too far an example and I will give an example to myself when I come to a group of people who dont gamble, of course we will discuss other things that are more positive so that our minds will never think about gambling, but when I come here a group of people who like to gamble will definitely discuss gambling and in fact our minds will start to reappear about wanting to try gambling again.


“Evil communication corrupts good manners”. This is mentioned somewhere in the Bible and it’s reflected in our daily lives. Obviously, the type of people you hang around with would someday and perhaps unconsciously, slowly and steadily become influential in your life.
Hang around with associates that gamble, you lot would talk a lot and do things that are gambols related and soon enough, you’ll find yourself wanting to gamble as well. It’s only natural. Hanging around people with productive thoughts would likewise feed your mind with more productive thoughts. It’s left for us to decide on the crowd to hang around with.
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November 30, 2023, 01:20:37 PM
Using that support from your love ones will push your determination to quit away, though there's a certain level  of addiction where gambler really doing things unexpectedly,  but going back to that argument,  you can seek help and feel  that support to encourage yourself to keep improving,  each day that will pass by with your interest  to keep away  from your vices the support of you love one's will serve as your inspiration to keep pushing your way out.
If someone who is addicted to gambling sees that there are still many people who love him, especially his family or partner who want him to recover from his gambling addiction, he will slowly begin to understand that he must be able to recover from his gambling addiction. He will try hard to do everything well and with strong intentions and determination, he will not complain even though it might be painful for him. He will not give up before he succeeds in curing himself of his gambling addiction because he has seen the support from his family, which is given to him continuously so he doesn't want to let himself down. He can even get through every day well because of the support from his family and doesn't feel heavy in undergoing therapy to cure his gambling addiction.

Basically the support of the people we love will indeed have a big role and it is important for a change provided that someone who is already addicted has a little awareness, and after that of course that usually some good advice is very difficult to accept by them but maybe now the situation is different when they already have a pretty good awareness. As you said slowly they will be able to change and I believe that it will really happen, they will probably obey some of the advice given by people they love.

And after that maybe we can only wait for the time, they will change slowly but that doesn't matter because getting out of the addiction zone is quite difficult so it's only natural that they do it slowly in changing their bad habits for the better and over time maybe they will really be able to forget about gambling because their interest has decreased.

If they can process it inside them it's better than never, we as people who support those gambling addicted people that are near us
We also need to adjust as it's not really easy, no matter how hard those people try, if they are already engaged too deep from their addiction it takes time before you can truly overcome this vice inside you.

There's no easy way because if you do it chances are you'll fail and you will just add more when you can't overcome the addiction that pollutes your mind.
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November 30, 2023, 12:14:43 PM
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Our actions and beliefs are shaped by our social environment as much as our physical surroundings. Consider this: non-gambling groups discuss varied, maybe useful issues, diverting thoughts from gambling. A gambling-prone group makes gambling an attractive possibility, not merely a topic of discourse. Your experience shows that our social settings often shape our choices. Can personal dedication withstand the allure of gambling? Complex interaction between individual resolve and collective influence. Personal dedication is important, but environmental cues, especially in addiction, shape behavior.

Yeah, we are social animals after all.

I think I read somewhere that you are very likely to end up in a similar financial situation to the average of the five people you surround yourself the most.

This makes sense, as that's what you would be talking about all day. Let's say they are great investors, they will be talking a lot about investing and you would be into that as well.

And if they are gamblers, you would end up in casinos with them, etc.

I can agree that the 5 people you're with the most will affect your thoughts and your view of the world but this will only happen to some extent
In my case I know people from varied backgrounds, some are "selling lunch to pay dinner" as we say in Brazil, they don't have savings and live paycheck to paycheck, others are financial free with their investments paying for everything they need in life.

many ways to live
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November 30, 2023, 05:03:14 AM
Using that support from your love ones will push your determination to quit away, though there's a certain level  of addiction where gambler really doing things unexpectedly,  but going back to that argument,  you can seek help and feel  that support to encourage yourself to keep improving,  each day that will pass by with your interest  to keep away  from your vices the support of you love one's will serve as your inspiration to keep pushing your way out.
If someone who is addicted to gambling sees that there are still many people who love him, especially his family or partner who want him to recover from his gambling addiction, he will slowly begin to understand that he must be able to recover from his gambling addiction. He will try hard to do everything well and with strong intentions and determination, he will not complain even though it might be painful for him. He will not give up before he succeeds in curing himself of his gambling addiction because he has seen the support from his family, which is given to him continuously so he doesn't want to let himself down. He can even get through every day well because of the support from his family and doesn't feel heavy in undergoing therapy to cure his gambling addiction.

Basically the support of the people we love will indeed have a big role and it is important for a change provided that someone who is already addicted has a little awareness, and after that of course that usually some good advice is very difficult to accept by them but maybe now the situation is different when they already have a pretty good awareness. As you said slowly they will be able to change and I believe that it will really happen, they will probably obey some of the advice given by people they love.

And after that maybe we can only wait for the time, they will change slowly but that doesn't matter because getting out of the addiction zone is quite difficult so it's only natural that they do it slowly in changing their bad habits for the better and over time maybe they will really be able to forget about gambling because their interest has decreased.
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