Topic: The madness of gambling addicts. - page 73. (Read 15791 times)

Yeah, I think there are things that could be done to incentivize long term savings and investment.

Because usually when you save or invest you send the money out and... nothing happens.

You have to wait years and continually send money to actually have a great impact. And it's great.

But there's no instantaneous gratification, which a lot of people want these days, and gambling provides that.

I guess if you could show a simulation of the future amount of money in an interesting way, that could be interesting. But then again, you can't really predict investments, so maybe they are not even allowed to do something like that.

This is not the madness of gamblers, this is the madness of people who would find some way to engage in criminal behavior. The fact that they were willing to kidnap their own grand daughter shows that they are too far gone to be helped and it is far beyond gambling having a grip on them. There's actually immense cowardice in this act, because they didn't walk into a bank or try to rob someone on the street, but they targeted someone defenseless and thought that they could exchange a person for money. They will not be looked upon kindly in prison. It's nothing to do with vulnerable persons being protected from harm, no normal person would act this way and it's such a freak incident that there is no defense to it.

Some people are pained after losing and they will want to recover their money back, that’s one of the things which makes people addicted to gambling, if you are trying to win back the money you have lost, and when doing that, you are still going to lose more money, which will be difficult for you to stop gambling, some people are addicted to gambling but whenever you tell them, they will never agree that they are addicted to gambling, most of them will say they know what they are doing and after the win back their losses, they are going to stop gambling, but they will never win it back so they won’t be able to stop gambling.

That’s why most people in the society see gambling as a bad thing, addicted gamblers do crazy things just to make money to gamble, they always end up doing things which makes people think that gambling is bad, people in the society don’t care if you are addicted to gambling or not, if they know that you are a gambler, then they believe that you are a bad influence to the society, but nothing is bad in gambling, just that the addiction aspect is the one that’s bad.

True. Revenge gambling is a bitch. Although I think and you can quote me on this, Grandpa's already fucked in the head prior to this happening. I know gamblers can be desperate, I've seen people sell their appliances to get their fix, even go as far as to actually land a measly job just so they can sustain their gambling habits, but his is just extreme, it's intricate, well-planned, and if not for the fact that he's stupid he may have gotten away with it too. I say he needs to get checked for any psychopathic tendencies prior to this event. To revenge gamble and be desperate at getting back your lost bets is an understandable matter, we've been like that in the past after all, but to actually resort to heinous crimes for the sake of getting enough money to support your gambling? that's something else.

If you can divert your attention to this venue and I agree that it might help you a lot in terms of spending time and money for a better outcome.

Not saying  that it's an easy venue  but it has a lesser  risk compared to gambling and the addiction  that you may suffer.

A tough call as there's always differences  within people's mindset especially when we are dealing with money.

Controlling emotions is a difficult thing to do. Even people who are used to controlling their emotions can also lose control of themselves when their emotions escalate. But after all, we must be able to do it because by controlling our emotions, we will avoid mistakes that will result in us losing money. And it certainly won't make us feel hopeless or frustrated for having lost that money because we can prevent it from happening. We only know that recovering lost money is difficult and the same as those who want to chase victory. So instead of continuing to try to get a win, we're just trying to enjoy playing gambling.

It's an addiction, like any other, so it's not an easy thing to do.

The trick would be to somehow control that motivation to get more money to gamble, but instead of using it for gambling, invest it in something else.

Usually investing doesn't have this short term rush that casinos provide, but it would be great if you could gamify investments instead of gambling.

Easy to say and assume that gamblers can control, but in reality, once you get engage the chance of keep repeating that same mistake may take place from time to time.

There are many incidents that gamblers exceed from set limitations and are unable to control the emotions,
losing a lot and do a Yolo and sad thing. They lose everything and wanted to keep trying to win back
and recover by resorting to unthinkable resources to get that money to gamble.

This is why it's very important to know your limitations when it comes to gambling. If you don't set it from the very beginning, you are doomed to fail in the end. You should have a game plan even before entering the industry since it's a risky one. One must not just entrust his fate with the flow because once you got swayed by your feelings and your ambitions, you'll likely to chase the winnings and the prizes that come along with it just to satisfy your desire to aim more and more.

Then once you get accustomed to the process and the routine, you'll eventually get lost into it because of dependency or craving. Which could lead to unsupervised money spending and excessive time allotment that could cause more trouble to you and later on will force you to resort on things you wouldn't actually want to do.

Right, those scenarios are possible but sometimes I think that when talk about those kind of problems we mostly talk about the extreme scenarios. None of us is supposed to underestimate the extend of the damage that can be caused by unattended gambling addiction, but committing suicide or becoming a thief sounds like something with could not happen as often as we assume. I would need to find some study in Google Scholar to verify it.

Probably those who have gambling problems realize about it and can overcome it over time, or perhaps they face economical risks of bankruptcy, but not commit suicide.
I like to think that being addicted is not an instant condition which seals our destiny.

The loser will file the case against the casino when the loss is high,but it's purely need to understand the fact.The gambler should take responsibility for the game and the money he using for the gambling.Whether the money is high or low is not the important one,but gambler should take full responsibility before playing.I had one question to the report filing gambler,did he return the winning money if he win double the money of his loss money.No gambler do that,even I don't do such things.Because we do gambling only for the winning and we get winning on the day of our lucky day.

That's the worse thing to happen, committing suicide as a result of having that kind of addiction and nothing left, but a ruined life and relationship with people who care about you before.

Either you become a criminal or taking your own life to escape with the burden of getting addicted,
things that madness can take you if you engage too much with gambling.

Yes, Gambling addiction can have severe and long-lasting consequences for them: they will lose their relationships, be less productive, their health deteriorate over the years, and financial problems like bankruptcy can happen. Related to the law, the worst end is the attempt to commit suicide.
The causes of gambling addiction can be the result of a combination of biochemical, genetic, and environmental factors. In addition, they may be lured into gambling.

Now imagine how profitable a casino can be if they have a smoking area with slots and blackjack, while at the same they offer some free drinks to keep their guess happy. 

Sometimes we understimate how many mechanism can be used to stimulate the dopamine receptors in your brain. They only thing which could improve that hypothetical casino which I just described would be if the waitresses are pretty and very social. They must call Las Vegas the city of sins for a very good reason.

Also, I am not sure "behavioral addiction" is a correct term for what an gambling addict suffers.

It is normal since one of the traits of humankind and possibly every living thing on this earth is self-preservation.  As much as possible a person wanted to keep himself from harm or blame. But this action is countered by honesty and self-respect.  Sadly most gamblers who are addicted to gambling had already lost self-respect and wanted to deny facts of their addiction and start to point the blame on others.  This kind of situation can't be avoided especially in a case where the addiction is deeply rooted in the person.

When a player is not clear about things, sometimes he tends to blame the game, the casino, for stealing his money and that is something they claim is the case, in fact they claim that the more they bet hard and played with 'more intensity the casino must reward that by winning and it is not like that, sometimes it is necessary to have good luck, to fall at the right time to do things, it is very common for this to happen, also this can lead to higher dramas, there are threads in the reputation part where these players assure that the casino cheated them, and it is an impressive thing how they defend their points, of course, sometimes the loss makes them blind and not see other things, which actually happens in casinos, but it's hard to talk to people who have a unique rage and who believe they were robbed or ripped off.

Sometimes the human behavior is unique, as to save himself he is capable of saying or affirming that he was not at fault, or that for reasons of the same game he lost, otherwise it is easier to blame the caisno or say that the game was deficient, or even that the casino was the one that prevented him from winning, things happen that way, that's why when we are in a casino we have to be clear about it.

When we play in a casino, we have to realize that the casino is a fluctuation of emotions, that you can win, that you can lose, but above all you have to Control a lot about the things you have, which means that sometimes we as players must understand that we can lose even when we see that things seem very unfair, that's how it is, for a reason we Accept the terms and conditions, because we know very well what we are abiding by, just as there are great lose , there are also big winners, where there were no people who won big because we might think that the casino is Compromising or doing something bad practice, but it is not.

 The game is based on the luck of your day,when you had good luck.The winning from the game will be more as compared to the loss.When you don't have luck,their is more probability of losing the money.The gamblers should take responsibility for the both win and loss.So that they should not blame or praise the website for the winning or loss.When you had not have luck and you play the game on that day,it will leads to loss of the money.So you should keep in mind the same money will back to you at the luckiest day.

The biggest mistake is holding a grudge after playing the game, you played the game you didnt win then its time to walk.   The trick to not fall into is to think you are owed anything further, if the game was played and luck didnt come out your side you had your chance and you walk away.  At least until another day, or week the bad decision is not the losing but thinking a win must be available if risking further loss.   I would suggest always take time as a valid variance of results, if you lost today come back another time not just attempting another spin to fix the loss.

So, all of that is basically a habit. if we are able to limit excessive habits, the impact will not be too serious. In the discussion of this post, we are dealing with various habits that end up in addiction. as other examples, boys play games, girls shop, and who have a habitual pattern of overeating. the habits we do, can lead to addictive behavior. then, what's the difference with gambling.

Anyway, everything comes back to ourselves. there are various effects of something that is excessive, let alone that which has become a bad habit. many times, we force it to fulfill high desires. like the example in this thread, his excessive habit of gambling made his grandfather act beyond his common sense. whereas, in fact, each person has power over himself. if a person is able to control himself, balanced with a healthy mindset. this case should never have happened. but because of high desire and someone is powerless to refuse it, which in the end commits a criminal act. as per the title theme of this thread, gambling addict insanity usually occurs in people who can no longer think rationally. that is why it is very important to have a deeper understanding of the gambling that we do.