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Quote from: Wend on August 11, 2023, 11:02:56 AM

When people first start gambling, people think this is just a game, but over time it becomes a habit and leads to dependence. If addicted to gambling, players will constantly pursue bets leading to losses, extracting available money, even stealing, and cheating to get money to satisfy addiction. Regularly plan to get more gambling money, such as lying to family or acquaintances to borrow money to gamble. When the loss is extreme, family and friends stay away from the creditor to come to them. They can be psychologically unstable, sometimes leading to suicidal thoughts.

That could be worst and last thing that may actually happen to them , they will lead to suicide or they will lost their minds. When a person get addicted to something he will never stop and will keep on trying and trying just to raise fund and just to satisfy his needs in gambling, when there are no ways, it could lead to addiction and that would be the fall for them.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on August 10, 2023, 11:17:21 AM

yes, I think the main problem is avoiding to see reality as it is
many people approach gambling as a way to make easy money or relying on it as income when in reality it should be entertainment.

if it's too hard for someone to stop gambling they should seek help.

We play cards, games, shop, or want to eat something delicious. We all start with the same addiction problem. For example, a child playing a game is just a game. There's no benefit to it, but it can't stop playing because the kid is addicted to the game. Another example is that women are addicted to shopping, and obese people are addicted to food.

Gambling too, and sometimes they don't play for the money. Gamblers already have logic in their 'behavioral addiction.'

Yes there are many examples of addiction and one of those are what you've mentioned above mate. Which is we are all know that Kid is love to play in computer games which is once that kid try to play in that game then he will become an addict to that game so we cannot force them to stop immediately. And in gambling once a man or a woman try to play in gambling then they can not control themselves then addiction will follow.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on August 10, 2023, 11:17:21 AM

yes, I think the main problem is avoiding to see reality as it is
many people approach gambling as a way to make easy money or relying on it as income when in reality it should be entertainment.

if it's too hard for someone to stop gambling they should seek help.

We play cards, games, shop, or want to eat something delicious. We all start with the same addiction problem. For example, a child playing a game is just a game. There's no benefit to it, but it can't stop playing because the kid is addicted to the game. Another example is that women are addicted to shopping, and obese people are addicted to food.

Gambling too, and sometimes they don't play for the money. Gamblers already have logic in their 'behavioral addiction.'

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on August 10, 2023, 11:17:21 AM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on August 10, 2023, 11:17:21 AM

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yes, I think the main problem is avoiding to see reality as it is
many people approach gambling as a way to make easy money or relying on it as income when in reality it should be entertainment.

if it's too hard for someone to stop gambling they should seek help.

The important thing is that they can open up by telling their problems to people close to them before going to a professional to get help. They need attention from other people close to them so that it is with the openness of gambling addicts that they can see that the people around them are still there for them and are always ready to help them. By doing this, the gambling addict can get help immediately, and if the people around them cannot help, they go to the professionals for more help.

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Quote from: Pamadar on August 08, 2023, 05:16:12 PM

Quote from: Hispo on August 10, 2023, 04:46:51 AM

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Treating gambling as an entertainment venue will lessen the chance of any big problem that may possible to happen if you go far and become addicted.

Just let it serve its purpose and enjoy, win or lose you satisfied yourself, unlike if you are treating
it as venue to earn money, you are being forced to keep continuing and pushing things even you
are already making bad decisions with your finances. You need to avoid that and keep always in
the driver's seat not to allow greed to dominate you.

Indeed, people should be able to treat gambling as entertainment and no longer regard gambling as a place to make money. Especially after they have suffered many losses every time they gamble and have spent much money too. If they realize that, they can avoid the big problem, gambling addiction because they play gambling only for fun. If they can get pleasure from other things, their desire to gamble will probably decrease, so that will reduce the money used for gambling as well.

At least we can do this and not follow people in gambling so that we are still within reasonable limits of using gambling as entertainment. By limiting that, we can limit the greed that will come as soon as possible to keep tempting us to keep playing. But with these restrictions, we will not be tempted to continue gambling.

yes, I think the main problem is avoiding to see reality as it is
many people approach gambling as a way to make easy money or relying on it as income when in reality it should be entertainment.

if it's too hard for someone to stop gambling they should seek help.

If that's as easy as that, then addiction can easily prevented, buy the reality, it's not. With that wrong thinking about gambling, you will lead to that engagement that will push you to keep playing.

Betting to make money and thinking that it's easy to keep doing it from time to time will surely harm you in the long
run, to the point that you will do everything just to please your gambling desires.

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Quote from: nullama on August 10, 2023, 12:06:41 AM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on August 10, 2023, 11:17:21 AM

When people first start gambling, people think this is just a game, but over time it becomes a habit and leads to dependence. If addicted to gambling, players will constantly pursue bets leading to losses, extracting available money, even stealing, and cheating to get money to satisfy addiction. Regularly plan to get more gambling money, such as lying to family or acquaintances to borrow money to gamble. When the loss is extreme, family and friends stay away from the creditor to come to them. They can be psychologically unstable, sometimes leading to suicidal thoughts.

Yes, absolutely.

It's basically the same as any other addiction. Alcoholics usually start with a single beer, then a bit more, then suddenly they are drinking every day, all day.

It's the same mechanism in the brain, the dopamine creation loop.

That is not of the most interestings parts of studying addictions, in my opinion. The dopamine creation loop, as you call it.

In the case of gambling I find it even more interesting because unlike smoking, or drinking alcohol, it does not involve the direct consumption of substances which can alter our central nervous system, but rather the brain gets used to its own dopamine production. Because of this Gambling addiction can be closer in nature to other kind of dependences (which are called "psychological dependences"). For example, toxic relationships, when one day your partner loves you and suddenly they can physically hurt you. Those unfortunate cases can be as uncertain to the outcome of a gambling session...

In a word, gambling is like drinking alcohol to relax after a tiring day at work or to entertain during a fun day. Get used to it and find it exciting and enjoyable to play.

But in the case of alcohol and tobacco addiction, it is called stimulant addiction. For example, cigarettes contain the ingredient "nicotine," which is an addictive substance. And about non-substance-dependent causes of addiction, Call it 'behavioral addiction. We can see it in gambling.

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Quote from: Pamadar on August 08, 2023, 05:16:12 PM

Quote from: Josefjix on August 10, 2023, 08:00:03 AM

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Treating gambling as an entertainment venue will lessen the chance of any big problem that may possible to happen if you go far and become addicted.

Just let it serve its purpose and enjoy, win or lose you satisfied yourself, unlike if you are treating
it as venue to earn money, you are being forced to keep continuing and pushing things even you
are already making bad decisions with your finances. You need to avoid that and keep always in
the driver's seat not to allow greed to dominate you.

Indeed, people should be able to treat gambling as entertainment and no longer regard gambling as a place to make money. Especially after they have suffered many losses every time they gamble and have spent much money too. If they realize that, they can avoid the big problem, gambling addiction because they play gambling only for fun. If they can get pleasure from other things, their desire to gamble will probably decrease, so that will reduce the money used for gambling as well.

At least we can do this and not follow people in gambling so that we are still within reasonable limits of using gambling as entertainment. By limiting that, we can limit the greed that will come as soon as possible to keep tempting us to keep playing. But with these restrictions, we will not be tempted to continue gambling.

yes, I think the main problem is avoiding to see reality as it is
many people approach gambling as a way to make easy money or relying on it as income when in reality it should be entertainment.

if it's too hard for someone to stop gambling they should seek help.

We can't blame them as majority of the people has an exactly the same thoughts about gambling. They see it as an easy way to earn profit but didn't realize the risk of what they are doing. Even normal people thinks gambling s an easy money but someone them knows the risk that's why not everyone is a gambler. Being addicted to gambling has so many various reasons but I personally think that the reason of them becoming addicted to gambling is their desire to win and to take home a large amount of money. The fact is not everyone is treating gambling as an entertainment, I myself consider it as an money machine when the time I am still addicted to gambling.

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Quote from: Y3shot on August 08, 2023, 05:23:53 PM

Many would think the action of the man has gone beyond gambling addiction but it just addiction and nothing far from addiction. Sometimes gambling addiction can make someone behave in a certain way which can make one think if the person has lost his/her senses. People still money just because to meet up with their gambling games. People needs to be very conscious about their gambling lifestyle to avoid going into the level of addiction.

Money can be generated from the system, the same way it will be liquidated, just try as much to be on the winning side. We are held responsible for whatever we do, always ready to pull big moves inother to such in the system. It's not easy to quit gambling specifically when one is an addict, it's very difficult to stop. Gambling have both negative and positive thought of the mind, it's very risky when we are desperate, we take any risks without managing our accounts. Addiction is extreme, and it affects most of our activities relating to gambling.

It is a means for money to be generated and liquidated, similar to a shaky banking system with no discernible purpose.

However, there is a possibility of finding a means to be on the winning side. I concur that it is difficult to quit. However, have you considered how money can be made and lost in ordinary life as well as in gambling? Aside from shady banking practices, life is a dance between earning and spending, gaining and losing.

You've stated that addiction is extreme, but where does that leave us? Exists a solution, or are there only more questions? The solution may involve not only quitting, but also managing hazards, such as account management, and striking a balance. Or perhaps it is simply a matter of accepting that life can be unpredictable at times.

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Quote from: Pamadar on August 08, 2023, 05:16:12 PM

Quote from: topbitcoin on August 10, 2023, 09:09:17 AM

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Treating gambling as an entertainment venue will lessen the chance of any big problem that may possible to happen if you go far and become addicted.

Just let it serve its purpose and enjoy, win or lose you satisfied yourself, unlike if you are treating
it as venue to earn money, you are being forced to keep continuing and pushing things even you
are already making bad decisions with your finances. You need to avoid that and keep always in
the driver's seat not to allow greed to dominate you.

Indeed, people should be able to treat gambling as entertainment and no longer regard gambling as a place to make money. Especially after they have suffered many losses every time they gamble and have spent much money too. If they realize that, they can avoid the big problem, gambling addiction because they play gambling only for fun. If they can get pleasure from other things, their desire to gamble will probably decrease, so that will reduce the money used for gambling as well.

At least we can do this and not follow people in gambling so that we are still within reasonable limits of using gambling as entertainment. By limiting that, we can limit the greed that will come as soon as possible to keep tempting us to keep playing. But with these restrictions, we will not be tempted to continue gambling.

yes, I think the main problem is avoiding to see reality as it is
many people approach gambling as a way to make easy money or relying on it as income when in reality it should be entertainment.

if it's too hard for someone to stop gambling they should seek help.

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Quote from: Radek4921 on August 10, 2023, 06:47:14 AM

When people first start gambling, people think this is just a game, but over time it becomes a habit and leads to dependence. If addicted to gambling, players will constantly pursue bets leading to losses, extracting available money, even stealing, and cheating to get money to satisfy addiction. Regularly plan to get more gambling money, such as lying to family or acquaintances to borrow money to gamble. When the loss is extreme, family and friends stay away from the creditor to come to them. They can be psychologically unstable, sometimes leading to suicidal thoughts.

basically when we play gambling games the goal is entertainment to just relieve fatigue and stress after a long day of work. but this is reversed when they perceive that gambling is a place to gain profit so they only focus on continuing to win and also making gambling a profession which can result in someone using any money to be able to play gambling because they believe that they will get profit in it, and this is also what will make them stressed when they experience defeat.

People with gambling addiction often experience a strong urge to gamble, even when they know it's harmful to themselves or their loved ones. They might continue gambling to chase losses, experience excitement or a "high," or to escape from emotional pain or stress. This behavior can lead to financial, emotional, and interpersonal problems.
Addiction is a complex issue, and seeking help is a crucial step toward recovery.

when they are addicted to gambling they will never think about anything other than playing gambling even though they already have responsibilities where these responsibilities must be prioritized.
Regulating gambling and financial activities is what everyone has to do so they can prioritize which ones are needs and which ones are just hobbies.

I agree that the relevant authorities must control this, because people addicted to gambling are able to do anything to get money to play, they only see the consequences when they lose it.

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Quote from: Radek4921 on August 10, 2023, 06:47:14 AM

When people first start gambling, people think this is just a game, but over time it becomes a habit and leads to dependence. If addicted to gambling, players will constantly pursue bets leading to losses, extracting available money, even stealing, and cheating to get money to satisfy addiction. Regularly plan to get more gambling money, such as lying to family or acquaintances to borrow money to gamble. When the loss is extreme, family and friends stay away from the creditor to come to them. They can be psychologically unstable, sometimes leading to suicidal thoughts.

basically when we play gambling games the goal is entertainment to just relieve fatigue and stress after a long day of work. but this is reversed when they perceive that gambling is a place to gain profit so they only focus on continuing to win and also making gambling a profession which can result in someone using any money to be able to play gambling because they believe that they will get profit in it, and this is also what will make them stressed when they experience defeat.

People with gambling addiction often experience a strong urge to gamble, even when they know it's harmful to themselves or their loved ones. They might continue gambling to chase losses, experience excitement or a "high," or to escape from emotional pain or stress. This behavior can lead to financial, emotional, and interpersonal problems.
Addiction is a complex issue, and seeking help is a crucial step toward recovery.

when they are addicted to gambling they will never think about anything other than playing gambling even though they already have responsibilities where these responsibilities must be prioritized.
Regulating gambling and financial activities is what everyone has to do so they can prioritize which ones are needs and which ones are just hobbies.

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Quote from: Y3shot on August 08, 2023, 05:23:53 PM

Many would think the action of the man has gone beyond gambling addiction but it just addiction and nothing far from addiction. Sometimes gambling addiction can make someone behave in a certain way which can make one think if the person has lost his/her senses. People still money just because to meet up with their gambling games. People needs to be very conscious about their gambling lifestyle to avoid going into the level of addiction.

Money can be generated from the system, the same way it will be liquidated, just try as much to be on the winning side. We are held responsible for whatever we do, always ready to pull big moves inother to such in the system. It's not easy to quit gambling specifically when one is an addict, it's very difficult to stop. Gambling have both negative and positive thought of the mind, it's very risky when we are desperate, we take any risks without managing our accounts. Addiction is extreme, and it affects most of our activities relating to gambling.

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People with gambling addiction often experience a strong urge to gamble, even when they know it's harmful to themselves or their loved ones. They might continue gambling to chase losses, experience excitement or a "high," or to escape from emotional pain or stress. This behavior can lead to financial, emotional, and interpersonal problems.
Addiction is a complex issue, and seeking help is a crucial step toward recovery.

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Quote from: len01 on August 09, 2023, 04:56:52 PM

Quote from: Pamadar on August 09, 2023, 05:27:42 PM

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we as ordinary gamblers may seem so easy to say about it all, but sometimes we must have had bad days, defeats come in a row, starting to get emotional and keep wanting to take back the money that has been lost without realizing its an addiction or if not because you've won big you can not self-control spending his winnings so feel disappointed and want to chase it again until it becomes an addiction.
gambling for pleasure indeed has to be done, but every person mindset is different, just like an ordinary gambler who enjoys every betting session to entertain himself. he always has good control, but for others, he may have a bad mindset or unstable self-control.

so wise advice if you just want to have fun do not give priority to gambling because one day it can turn bad or have other options to have fun with positive things.

I'm sure it has happened to some of us and probably still does today. It takes self-belief to get over bad stuff like that, and maybe if it happens to us again, it might seem like we really need a bit more rest so our minds can deal with the disappointment that's already happened to us. We still have to learn self-control during our break from gambling so that when we decide to gamble again, we won't experience the same thing.

We have to change the previous mindset, and through adequate rest, we learn to have a better mindset about gambling. Perhaps later, we will just have fun gambling after that break so we won't experience events that can cause us to experience disappointment as before.

Quote from: nullama on August 10, 2023, 12:06:41 AM

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Yeah right, if you will be able to control that greed and most of your emotion while playing the chance is better, you will not just enjoying but a chance to win decently is also possible.

Unlike with those who engage that much, control is no longer in their hands. That's why they keep aiming for
more instead of being contented and happy with what they've already got, gambling is addicting and, if you
got engage it will harm you completely.

Greed is indeed difficult to overcome, but by learning, I think we can control it and not play gambling just to indulge our emotions. Those emotions will increase along with what we experience or get in gambling, and we don't want to get disappointed like before.

For this reason, we must have better self-control in the future by continuing to learn. Refraining from gambling for a while is a way to have better self-control.

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When people first start gambling, people think this is just a game, but over time it becomes a habit and leads to dependence. If addicted to gambling, players will constantly pursue bets leading to losses, extracting available money, even stealing, and cheating to get money to satisfy addiction. Regularly plan to get more gambling money, such as lying to family or acquaintances to borrow money to gamble. When the loss is extreme, family and friends stay away from the creditor to come to them. They can be psychologically unstable, sometimes leading to suicidal thoughts.

Yes, absolutely.

It's basically the same as any other addiction. Alcoholics usually start with a single beer, then a bit more, then suddenly they are drinking every day, all day.

It's the same mechanism in the brain, the dopamine creation loop.

That is not of the most interestings parts of studying addictions, in my opinion. The dopamine creation loop, as you call it.

In the case of gambling I find it even more interesting because unlike smoking, or drinking alcohol, it does not involve the direct consumption of substances which can alter our central nervous system, but rather the brain gets used to its own dopamine production. Because of this Gambling addiction can be closer in nature to other kind of dependences (which are called "psychological dependences"). For example, toxic relationships, when one day your partner loves you and suddenly they can physically hurt you. Those unfortunate cases can be as uncertain to the outcome of a gambling session...

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When people first start gambling, people think this is just a game, but over time it becomes a habit and leads to dependence. If addicted to gambling, players will constantly pursue bets leading to losses, extracting available money, even stealing, and cheating to get money to satisfy addiction. Regularly plan to get more gambling money, such as lying to family or acquaintances to borrow money to gamble. When the loss is extreme, family and friends stay away from the creditor to come to them. They can be psychologically unstable, sometimes leading to suicidal thoughts.

Yes, absolutely.

It's basically the same as any other addiction. Alcoholics usually start with a single beer, then a bit more, then suddenly they are drinking every day, all day.

It's the same mechanism in the brain, the dopamine creation loop.

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Quote from: Pamadar on August 08, 2023, 05:16:12 PM

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Treating gambling as an entertainment venue will lessen the chance of any big problem that may possible to happen if you go far and become addicted.

Just let it serve its purpose and enjoy, win or lose you satisfied yourself, unlike if you are treating
it as venue to earn money, you are being forced to keep continuing and pushing things even you
are already making bad decisions with your finances. You need to avoid that and keep always in
the driver's seat not to allow greed to dominate you.

Indeed, people should be able to treat gambling as entertainment and no longer regard gambling as a place to make money. Especially after they have suffered many losses every time they gamble and have spent much money too. If they realize that, they can avoid the big problem, gambling addiction because they play gambling only for fun. If they can get pleasure from other things, their desire to gamble will probably decrease, so that will reduce the money used for gambling as well.

At least we can do this and not follow people in gambling so that we are still within reasonable limits of using gambling as entertainment. By limiting that, we can limit the greed that will come as soon as possible to keep tempting us to keep playing. But with these restrictions, we will not be tempted to continue gambling.

Yeah right, if you will be able to control that greed and most of your emotion while playing the chance is better, you will not just enjoying but a chance to win decently is also possible.

Unlike with those who engage that much, control is no longer in their hands. That's why they keep aiming for
more instead of being contented and happy with what they've already got, gambling is addicting and, if you
got engage it will harm you completely.

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