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August 30, 2023, 01:10:07 AM
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That's true and I agree with you because if someone wants to make gambling his main income, he has to consider how much money he has to use to make money from gambling. And even though he already uses a lot of money to gamble, that won't guarantee he can make a lot of money, let alone continue to make gambling his main source of income. Maybe he needs to learn a lot to become a professional gambler before making gambling his main source of income.

I thought that a professional gambler could have a main source of income from gambling but it would still be difficult because things could change drastically. Moreover, we know that gambling is not a place to make money and only as entertainment. We also will only sometimes be able to get lucky because luck will only sometimes be with us every time we gamble. So we should abandon our intention to make gambling our main source of income and look for other places.

If someone wants to make gambling their main income, I can almost guarantee that the gambler will end up broke and with no job very soon.

It's simply not possible to gamble as a way of generating an income. The math behind it is very clear.

There's no way a person can consistently win against the casino. Maybe once they can get lucky, but they would have to retire after that. If they keep playing they will eventually lose it all.
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August 30, 2023, 12:30:54 AM
the key is always to never consider it as primary source of income. consider it just merely an entertainment and thats it, the thing with most people is that they are trying to get rich off it while its true that you can get rich, are you sure that you are the lucky ones? therefore its best for entertainment for those that truly just wanted to have fun and make some money off it.
That's true and I agree with you because if someone wants to make gambling his main income, he has to consider how much money he has to use to make money from gambling. And even though he already uses a lot of money to gamble, that won't guarantee he can make a lot of money, let alone continue to make gambling his main source of income. Maybe he needs to learn a lot to become a professional gambler before making gambling his main source of income.

I thought that a professional gambler could have a main source of income from gambling but it would still be difficult because things could change drastically. Moreover, we know that gambling is not a place to make money and only as entertainment. We also will only sometimes be able to get lucky because luck will only sometimes be with us every time we gamble. So we should abandon our intention to make gambling our main source of income and look for other places.
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August 30, 2023, 12:15:41 AM
Many individuals with gambling addictions harbor an optimistic bias that "the next bet will be the one." It's heart-wrenching to witness gambling overshadowing all other aspects of their lives. I've personally seen friends sacrifice jobs and relationships because of this addiction. Yet, I've also observed people who gamble casually and genuinely enjoy the experience. Ultimately, gambling serves as a profound test of self-control.

Yes, that's what is called a gambling addict, they are always optimistic to always win and win, and if it's out of control, that person tries to sell what he has now, even his job is at stake here, and that's very ridiculous for people who don't fall into the category of gambling addicts . If he doesn't realize it soon, one day he will regret for sacrificing what he has. And I agree with you that what we really do is play gambling in a relaxed and not excessive way so that we can enjoy the process where later the victory will be on our side.

Realization happens when worse already come out, that's mostly what is happening with gambling addicted person.

When they already lose a lot, not just money but everything including their love ones, that's the start
of making things to assess. If the person is willing to admit, then there's a good chance that it can change
up, while if there's no willingness expect to see more regrets, even they already know that they already
losing or already out of control.
Yes, that's right, someone will realize that if everything has happened, then the people around him will also feel and suffer the consequences of the mistakes made by a gambling addict. In my opinion, it's not just admitting defeat, addicts will change their habits if they are not balanced with self-confidence and are willing to repent so they don't repeat it again, in my opinion, it will be very difficult to get rid of it. from gambling addiction.
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August 29, 2023, 11:03:54 PM
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In this aspect they are absolutely right, because gambling addicts always do things so that they have enough options to earn, and it is as they have said, they forget about the expenses they have to make, their family, their children, those who are heads of the family care little about having some responsibility for what they have to spend for themselves, that is sad, because I consider that the most important thing is family and the people who are close to one, because without them we Simply, understand, we would have another type of life, something that goes in the other direction, that is what we would come across, but a person who has this type of problem has to get checked out by a psychologist or take advice from friends, I don't know what addiction be it for the casino or to drink alcohol, because I think that the one to drink alcohol can be spent less, on the other hand, in one casino at a time you can spend a considerable amount of money and being well aware, this is something that can occur.

Thinking about it now, when things began to get worse in the middle of the pandemic, it was because many people were left without work, and they decided to use casinos as an option to get quick money to cover the emergency, and of course, that was not the best Option , but a person who needs to pay for their food, will carry out Certain things, well I would say , if I risk 300usd or 400eur , well I can earn double and with that fixes the week or the month, something like that, that is why some people The play turned out well, some others did lose, but I think these things were the ones that opened things up so they could be more active in the casinos, and Obviously , this increased the number of users among the casinos , and I don't rule out the possibility that In those moments, some of the people would become addicted, others became addicted, these are figures that I do not know but it is very likely that it Occurred , because in a pandemic what was used was the internet and online Casinos.

Its crazy to imagine that people relied on casinos during those difficult pandemic times, isnt it? As someone who enjoys the occasional game, I understand the allure of the bright lighting and the possibility of striking it rich. But... arent there priorities?

Families and intimate friends are our true fortunes. Investing all of your money in the prospect of a windfall is a poor strategy, particularly in a time of crisis. And addiction, whether to gambling or drinking, is difficult and no laughing matter. Perhaps they thought, "Hey, if I can double my $400 online, Im golden!" However, this is rarely the case, and addiction always emerges. Sadly, I believe that the number of people who are addicted to online casinos has also increased. What are the stakes in this digital age gamble, my friend? They are true.
It is that for that moment of the pandemic everything was very sudden, everything went off, only the things that should have worked best were left working, some families had no other income other than what was made at work, many people did not work again because the companies closed, and the sperosnas were not going to starve and they were not going to stop giving things to their people, they had to do more things to be able to continue leading their lives, I am sure that many people went to the casinos as a measure out of desperation to see if or if they could increase their money, because 500 usd when they put it in a casino and raise it to 800, 100 or more because that was already money, at least it saved the week and that was what many people thought, because the taxes, only services continue to be charged, and no one wants or wanted to lose the rhythm of life they were leading, just like the casino there was also trading, which was another way to increase their income, just stop the trading because you have to know, you have to have a lot of experience, and above all understand what was happening in the world well and on Another level to be able to do the Operations and not lose.

So I would Say that during the Pandemic , some people took the casino as the quickest way out of their problems, even if it involved a Great Risk, and it was also Beneficial for the Casinos , because the casinos Began to Gain more Customers,  more money , Everything. They began to have other types of activities, things were more Online, the Hopeless only looked for jobs online and wanted to do everything over there and earn a lot of money Remotely and Using what they know , so all this was more Competitive, while that in one casino , things were different , because there they realized if they won or not, and it was quick and violent , I think that from that moment on things began to be seen in other ways and that is why the casinos caught so much popularity , without thinking that many people were risking their Money in a very reckless way Possible.
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August 29, 2023, 06:59:13 PM
Many individuals with gambling addictions harbor an optimistic bias that "the next bet will be the one."





I got one simple solution to that 'just one more'.  I suggest people do stick to simple ideas for starters, if you are slightly agitated in your judgement stay true to a few simple things can be best.  But my simple idea is time not just quantity of the bets and spamming them in one day, this I disagree with.  Return another day, add some time to the equation for results.
   Sometimes the day is bad, put a X through it and call it done.   Coming back another day brings forward a few things in your favor, for starters you are going to have to earn some more money to gamble so yea give it some time; also a fresh perspective, to the game with your attitude and feelings is a genuine positive.
   Dont just aim to bet on one singular day, plan a schedule this is a simple rule and it'll work in many parts of life imo.
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August 29, 2023, 06:41:25 PM
Many individuals with gambling addictions harbor an optimistic bias that "the next bet will be the one." It's heart-wrenching to witness gambling overshadowing all other aspects of their lives. I've personally seen friends sacrifice jobs and relationships because of this addiction. Yet, I've also observed people who gamble casually and genuinely enjoy the experience. Ultimately, gambling serves as a profound test of self-control.


The latter is the perfect example on how we should treat gambling, we can say that it can make us money but we should also know what are the limits so that we can both achieve our goals, and that is to be entertained while also gaining money on the side. Yes, losses are somehow inevitable but that's normal because in gambling, there is always two sides of coins, you either go home with a win or with losses.

On the other hand, treating gambling as a primary source of income will certainly not give us the outcome that we've thought and thinking that the next bet will be the one is a never ending process. Up until you yourself will be addicted to the cycle itself.
the key is always to never consider it as primary source of income. consider it just merely an entertainment and thats it, the thing with most people is that they are trying to get rich off it while its true that you can get rich, are you sure that you are the lucky ones? therefore its best for entertainment for those that truly just wanted to have fun and make some money off it.
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August 29, 2023, 05:50:56 PM
Many individuals with gambling addictions harbor an optimistic bias that "the next bet will be the one." It's heart-wrenching to witness gambling overshadowing all other aspects of their lives. I've personally seen friends sacrifice jobs and relationships because of this addiction. Yet, I've also observed people who gamble casually and genuinely enjoy the experience. Ultimately, gambling serves as a profound test of self-control.

Yes, that's what is called a gambling addict, they are always optimistic to always win and win, and if it's out of control, that person tries to sell what he has now, even his job is at stake here, and that's very ridiculous for people who don't fall into the category of gambling addicts . If he doesn't realize it soon, one day he will regret for sacrificing what he has. And I agree with you that what we really do is play gambling in a relaxed and not excessive way so that we can enjoy the process where later the victory will be on our side.

Realization happens when worse already come out, that's mostly what is happening with gambling addicted person.

When they already lose a lot, not just money but everything including their love ones, that's the start
of making things to assess. If the person is willing to admit, then there's a good chance that it can change
up, while if there's no willingness expect to see more regrets, even they already know that they already
losing or already out of control.
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August 29, 2023, 06:31:10 AM
Many individuals with gambling addictions harbor an optimistic bias that "the next bet will be the one." It's heart-wrenching to witness gambling overshadowing all other aspects of their lives. I've personally seen friends sacrifice jobs and relationships because of this addiction. Yet, I've also observed people who gamble casually and genuinely enjoy the experience. Ultimately, gambling serves as a profound test of self-control.


The latter is the perfect example on how we should treat gambling, we can say that it can make us money but we should also know what are the limits so that we can both achieve our goals, and that is to be entertained while also gaining money on the side. Yes, losses are somehow inevitable but that's normal because in gambling, there is always two sides of coins, you either go home with a win or with losses.

On the other hand, treating gambling as a primary source of income will certainly not give us the outcome that we've thought and thinking that the next bet will be the one is a never ending process. Up until you yourself will be addicted to the cycle itself.
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August 29, 2023, 05:24:43 AM

They may be prone to have an optimistic bias, and there is nothing wrong about having such thing, but applied to gambling such way of thinking won't but anything but prolong the losses one can have, as you said. I am not sure who one could also lose one's job to gambling addiction, one needs to be very far gone not to realize that in order to keep the habit, a reliable source of income is necessary, unless he got fired because could not work properly because of sleepless nights on front of the computer.

Also, Do your friends even realize they have a problem with gambling or they believe it is all good and they eventually recover all their money?



The first and foremost thing is the gambler must be more optimistic way in the gambling.When you are suppose to face the loss,you should ready to face the loss.In gambling community gamblers say it was the gambler responsibilities.The most important factor is we are not going to blame after the win,So same should not be done when the loss was occurred.When you force to face the prolong loss,don’t get worry.Just hold for a while and plan a trip to other countries.This will help us to get away from stress.The trip must be the liked place of you,because then only your stress will be eliminated.Then back to your country and save some money before starting the gambling with some gap.The important thing is you need to plan the trip with your friends and not with your family.

Well, even though I agree with most you have said (obviously if gambling is a source of stress to anyone, then a rest is important), but unfortunately we should also keep in mind not all gamblers are blessed enough to have enough money to plan and go to trip abroad with their friends.

Coming from a country which have important social problems, I can say I have seen people gamble while going through financial problems (either as an escape from their daily problems or trying to get some extra money out of luck), so pleasure trips are not an option to many.

Also, when comes to optimism, I would add that the key is not to let optimism turn into expectation, because of one steps in a casino with some expectation, the disappoint can be huge.  Sad
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August 29, 2023, 01:33:19 AM
Many individuals with gambling addictions harbor an optimistic bias that "the next bet will be the one." It's heart-wrenching to witness gambling overshadowing all other aspects of their lives. I've personally seen friends sacrifice jobs and relationships because of this addiction. Yet, I've also observed people who gamble casually and genuinely enjoy the experience. Ultimately, gambling serves as a profound test of self-control.

Yes, that's what is called a gambling addict, they are always optimistic to always win and win, and if it's out of control, that person tries to sell what he has now, even his job is at stake here, and that's very ridiculous for people who don't fall into the category of gambling addicts . If he doesn't realize it soon, one day he will regret for sacrificing what he has. And I agree with you that what we really do is play gambling in a relaxed and not excessive way so that we can enjoy the process where later the victory will be on our side.
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August 28, 2023, 11:51:13 PM
Beyond certain level people will lose control and they don't know what they were doing. All that required is the mind's fulfillment which is achieved only when their desire comes true. By then, mind never thinks about the after effects and all.
it is at the level of out of control. maybe not all gamblers experience that, but more gamblers who are excessively addicted must have been in a process of losing control. and that is not good for the gambler, because what he has in mind is the ambition to keep playing and winning. when that is not achieved, more and more money will be drained.
This will get worse if the addict is someone who doesn't have a limit of funds to play.
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August 28, 2023, 11:46:55 PM
Glad to see a lot of us have the same sentiment. One more scary thought is that most people when they are up money, they feel like they're "freerolling" more profit - and with that trap, even though the RTP is 95-98%, you will never truly realise your edge and never leave up as the odds are stacked against you so in the short term you're much more likely to be down than up.  Angry

In the short term you actually have more chances of being up, which is still less probable than being down.

But the more you play, the less probabilities you have to come up on top.

The reason for this is math.
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August 28, 2023, 12:56:58 PM

They may be prone to have an optimistic bias, and there is nothing wrong about having such thing, but applied to gambling such way of thinking won't but anything but prolong the losses one can have, as you said. I am not sure who one could also lose one's job to gambling addiction, one needs to be very far gone not to realize that in order to keep the habit, a reliable source of income is necessary, unless he got fired because could not work properly because of sleepless nights on front of the computer.

Also, Do your friends even realize they have a problem with gambling or they believe it is all good and they eventually recover all their money?



The first and foremost thing is the gambler must be more optimistic way in the gambling.When you are suppose to face the loss,you should ready to face the loss.In gambling community gamblers say it was the gambler responsibilities.The most important factor is we are not going to blame after the win,So same should not be done when the loss was occurred.When you force to face the prolong loss,don’t get worry.Just hold for a while and plan a trip to other countries.This will help us to get away from stress.
Beyond certain level people will lose control and they don't know what they were doing. All that required is the mind's fulfillment which is achieved only when their desire comes true. By then, mind never thinks about the after effects and all.
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August 28, 2023, 12:49:45 PM

They may be prone to have an optimistic bias, and there is nothing wrong about having such thing, but applied to gambling such way of thinking won't but anything but prolong the losses one can have, as you said. I am not sure who one could also lose one's job to gambling addiction, one needs to be very far gone not to realize that in order to keep the habit, a reliable source of income is necessary, unless he got fired because could not work properly because of sleepless nights on front of the computer.

Also, Do your friends even realize they have a problem with gambling or they believe it is all good and they eventually recover all their money?



The first and foremost thing is the gambler must be more optimistic way in the gambling.When you are suppose to face the loss,you should ready to face the loss.In gambling community gamblers say it was the gambler responsibilities.The most important factor is we are not going to blame after the win,So same should not be done when the loss was occurred.When you force to face the prolong loss,don’t get worry.Just hold for a while and plan a trip to other countries.This will help us to get away from stress.The trip must be the liked place of you,because then only your stress will be eliminated.Then back to your country and save some money before starting the gambling with some gap.The important thing is you need to plan the trip with your friends and not with your family.
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August 28, 2023, 12:33:32 PM
Many individuals with gambling addictions harbor an optimistic bias that "the next bet will be the one." It's heart-wrenching to witness gambling overshadowing all other aspects of their lives. I've personally seen friends sacrifice jobs and relationships because of this addiction. Yet, I've also observed people who gamble casually and genuinely enjoy the experience. Ultimately, gambling serves as a profound test of self-control.


They may be prone to have an optimistic bias, and there is nothing wrong about having such thing, but applied to gambling such way of thinking won't but anything but prolong the losses one can have, as you said. I am not sure who one could also lose one's job to gambling addiction, one needs to be very far gone not to realize that in order to keep the habit, a reliable source of income is necessary, unless he got fired because could not work properly because of sleepless nights on front of the computer.

Also, Do your friends even realize they have a problem with gambling or they believe it is all good and they eventually recover all their money?

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August 28, 2023, 10:01:22 AM
Glad to see a lot of us have the same sentiment. One more scary thought is that most people when they are up money, they feel like they're "freerolling" more profit - and with that trap, even though the RTP is 95-98%, you will never truly realise your edge and never leave up as the odds are stacked against you so in the short term you're much more likely to be down than up.  Angry
Those who think like that seem to have to change their mindset because it doesn't guarantee they can get lucky if they have money. They have to realize that the fact is that if they had money, they could gamble. But if they don't have or set boundaries, they will only experience a loss that they are usually not aware of. Even though the RTP is 95-98%, it doesn't guarantee you can win because it depends on how good your luck is. So if you lose, you will still feel sad and maybe even angry because you made the wrong decision to continue gambling.
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August 28, 2023, 02:31:06 AM
Glad to see a lot of us have the same sentiment. One more scary thought is that most people when they are up money, they feel like they're "freerolling" more profit - and with that trap, even though the RTP is 95-98%, you will never truly realise your edge and never leave up as the odds are stacked against you so in the short term you're much more likely to be down than up.  Angry
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August 27, 2023, 10:40:51 PM
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Yes, I couldn't agree more. I think this is the main problem of gambling addicts. They develop this kind of mindset where they think that they are lucky enough, and that they are going to win the next one resulting to major loss and in the worst case addiction. It's about being 'more', what I mean it's either the more you win or the more you loss, you become more addicted. That's why self-control is something that we should really learn in order to prevent being addicted to gambling.

Yes, that's the thing, the addict will always try to come back for the next hit of dopamine.

For gambling addicts, it's basically either "recovering their losses", or if they win, they want to win again.

In the end, unfortunately for the gambler, they will end up losing all the money they bet. That's the cold truth that not many want to talk about. They all want to talk about living a rich life fueled by gambling. But that's just a fantasy.
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August 27, 2023, 10:46:43 AM
Many individuals with gambling addictions harbor an optimistic bias that "the next bet will be the one." It's heart-wrenching to witness gambling overshadowing all other aspects of their lives. I've personally seen friends sacrifice jobs and relationships because of this addiction. Yet, I've also observed people who gamble casually and genuinely enjoy the experience. Ultimately, gambling serves as a profound test of self-control.






Gambling is not worth the sacrifice, such people will end up regretting later when they look back on the whole effort and sacrifice they made and yet they haven't gotten anywhere, That's the most scary part of gambling, the chances of not getting anywhere is very high that's why it's better to divert your attention into something that will still keep you in good shape even if you haven't achieved your dream yet.

The sickness of gambling addiction is the boldness to forget gambling and move on, those who get addicted find it hard to do something new especially the those type that you need to start from scratch, because they have lived in a fantasy world for a while, believing that gambling is the only surest way.
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August 27, 2023, 10:45:17 AM

Many individuals with gambling addictions harbor an optimistic bias that "the next bet will be the one." It's heart-wrenching to witness gambling overshadowing all other aspects of their lives. I've personally seen friends sacrifice jobs and relationships because of this addiction. Yet, I've also observed people who gamble casually and genuinely enjoy the experience. Ultimately, gambling serves as a profound test of self-control.



Yes, I couldn't agree more. I think this is the main problem of gambling addicts. They develop this kind of mindset where they think that they are lucky enough, and that they are going to win the next one resulting to major loss and in the worst case addiction. It's about being 'more', what I mean it's either the more you win or the more you loss, you become more addicted. That's why self-control is something that we should really learn in order to prevent being addicted to gambling.

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