The madness of gambling addicts. - page 86.

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Quote from: Wiwo on June 29, 2023, 02:32:33 PM

the thing is that most gamblers always thought that they could possibly outsmart the casino by going on in with high risk and in the end their end up being caught up in the web, self-control is very important but most important also is to set aside an exact amount you want to gamble with and anything above that should be avoided in all totality.

Don't ever spend too much time gambling trying to chase any direction is the fastest way to keep losing.

People on average overestimate their abilities and underestimate their flaws, so when faced with the challenge of outsmarting the casinos and beat them at their own game they naively think they can do it, then once they begin to notice this is not the case their ego takes over and they want to fulfill this goal, then once they realize this is not possible they want to at least recover the money they have lost, and each one of these steps leads them towards a path which is very difficult to escape as at that point many would have developed an addiction already.

If people cannot self-reflect, they will face difficulties they may not have imagined. And when they follow their ego too much instead of seeing that gambling will cost a lot of money, they will be disappointed and even frustrated to see the continuous losses. They will be trapped in their own ego and eventually unable to recover from their defeat. And the deeper they try, the harder it is to get out of gambling so it will only provide endless anger for them. Realizing that they have made a mistake and want to get out of gambling can save them from ruin and even bankruptcy.

And again, I already said this numerous times, it is really important to know our boundaries and limits because without any of this, we will not stop in chasing the money even if the chances are much too slim and that will just lead us to a road that doesn't allow you to turn your back as in the first place, you yourself brought it to yourself. I agree on the importance of self reflect because we are just humans, we know that we are bound to make some mistakes along the way and hence why we need to some time to reflect.

This only suggests that we should have a plan when we decide to gamble and without any plan there are high chances that we will only face losses in gambling. Even if one gets wins in gambling, those wins will be unsustainable as we would have no plan of quitting on a certain profit margin, and keeping on playing will only lead to a loss in the long run.

If every gambler do some homework before actually gambling, he would save himself from losing big money but at the same time, there are high chances that he or she will never become addicted to gambling.

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Quote from: Wiwo on June 29, 2023, 02:32:33 PM

the thing is that most gamblers always thought that they could possibly outsmart the casino by going on in with high risk and in the end their end up being caught up in the web, self-control is very important but most important also is to set aside an exact amount you want to gamble with and anything above that should be avoided in all totality.

Don't ever spend too much time gambling trying to chase any direction is the fastest way to keep losing.

People on average overestimate their abilities and underestimate their flaws, so when faced with the challenge of outsmarting the casinos and beat them at their own game they naively think they can do it, then once they begin to notice this is not the case their ego takes over and they want to fulfill this goal, then once they realize this is not possible they want to at least recover the money they have lost, and each one of these steps leads them towards a path which is very difficult to escape as at that point many would have developed an addiction already.

If people cannot self-reflect, they will face difficulties they may not have imagined. And when they follow their ego too much instead of seeing that gambling will cost a lot of money, they will be disappointed and even frustrated to see the continuous losses. They will be trapped in their own ego and eventually unable to recover from their defeat. And the deeper they try, the harder it is to get out of gambling so it will only provide endless anger for them. Realizing that they have made a mistake and want to get out of gambling can save them from ruin and even bankruptcy.

And again, I already said this numerous times, it is really important to know our boundaries and limits because without any of this, we will not stop in chasing the money even if the chances are much too slim and that will just lead us to a road that doesn't allow you to turn your back as in the first place, you yourself brought it to yourself. I agree on the importance of self reflect because we are just humans, we know that we are bound to make some mistakes along the way and hence why we need to some time to reflect.

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But not many gamblers have that and often they lose control of what they have been doing. Self-control is the most important thing when gambling, it functions like we use a helmet to ride a motorbike and if an accident occurs, we will still be safe because of this safety. I am very concerned when there is such an incident and it is very unfortunate what his son has done, maybe from this story we should be more aware of how dangerous gambling addiction is and it comes back to each individual how they overcome existing addictions.

Gambling addiction has caused people to do many harmful things without realizing what they're doing to be bad. Addiction makes you only think about satisfying it first before any other thing that matters so you'll go the extra miles just to get that money you need to gamble.

Self control can't be forgotten when you get addicted to gambling, when you weren't addicted you can easily control your self to prevent you from spending too much to gamble or doing unreasonable things but when you get addicted, you forget all about self control.

As for the boy that used the money meant for the medicine of his parents to gamble, that's one thing addiction can do to you. As of when he had the thought he would be very certain that he can double the money and still have money left to use in buying the medicine.

Alright, alright, alright! This, my friend, is a thought-provoker. I'm rolling up my playful-politically-critical sleeves and putting on my over-the-moon-excited hat."Addiction makes you only think about satisfying it first before any other thing that matters" Yet, isn't this a bit like tunnel vision? We get so focused on the prize that we forget to look around. Then comes the punchline about self-control. Fascinating! I'd venture to say that it isn't "forgotten" but rather, overrun. Much like an enthusiastic dog pulling its owner along, wouldn't you agree? Lastly, the boy and his parents' medicine money... a tragic example of the sway of addiction. To him, it probably felt like an investment rather than a gamble. But as the old saying goes, "the house always wins". A painful reminder of what the clutches of addiction can lead to, isn't it?

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Quote from: Silberman on June 30, 2023, 01:39:11 AM

Quote from: Wiwo on June 29, 2023, 02:32:33 PM

the thing is that most gamblers always thought that they could possibly outsmart the casino by going on in with high risk and in the end their end up being caught up in the web, self-control is very important but most important also is to set aside an exact amount you want to gamble with and anything above that should be avoided in all totality.

Don't ever spend too much time gambling trying to chase any direction is the fastest way to keep losing.

People on average overestimate their abilities and underestimate their flaws, so when faced with the challenge of outsmarting the casinos and beat them at their own game they naively think they can do it, then once they begin to notice this is not the case their ego takes over and they want to fulfill this goal, then once they realize this is not possible they want to at least recover the money they have lost, and each one of these steps leads them towards a path which is very difficult to escape as at that point many would have developed an addiction already.

If people cannot self-reflect, they will face difficulties they may not have imagined. And when they follow their ego too much instead of seeing that gambling will cost a lot of money, they will be disappointed and even frustrated to see the continuous losses. They will be trapped in their own ego and eventually unable to recover from their defeat. And the deeper they try, the harder it is to get out of gambling so it will only provide endless anger for them. Realizing that they have made a mistake and want to get out of gambling can save them from ruin and even bankruptcy.

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Quote from: Wiwo on June 29, 2023, 02:32:33 PM

Don't ever spend too much time gambling trying to chase any direction is the fastest way to keep losing.

But for a gambling addict it is very difficult to be able to limit the time of a game session because they already have a definite goal, which is to win, so how long and how much to lose is no longer of interest because they only focus on one will to be able to win big.
Giving enlightenment and advice to gambling addicts is more difficult so there is no point in saying things like that anymore.

Those of us who are not really addicted to gambling must immediately do everything possible so that we are not controlled by the desire to gamble and also avoid gambling addiction in the future.

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Quote from: rendravolt on June 29, 2023, 02:00:07 PM

But not many gamblers have that and often they lose control of what they have been doing. Self-control is the most important thing when gambling, it functions like we use a helmet to ride a motorbike and if an accident occurs, we will still be safe because of this safety. I am very concerned when there is such an incident and it is very unfortunate what his son has done, maybe from this story we should be more aware of how dangerous gambling addiction is and it comes back to each individual how they overcome existing addictions.

Gambling addiction has caused people to do many harmful things without realizing what they're doing to be bad. Addiction makes you only think about satisfying it first before any other thing that matters so you'll go the extra miles just to get that money you need to gamble.

Self control can't be forgotten when you get addicted to gambling, when you weren't addicted you can easily control your self to prevent you from spending too much to gamble or doing unreasonable things but when you get addicted, you forget all about self control.

As for the boy that used the money meant for the medicine of his parents to gamble, that's one thing addiction can do to you. As of when he had the thought he would be very certain that he can double the money and still have money left to use in buying the medicine.

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Quote from: Wiwo on June 29, 2023, 02:32:33 PM

the thing is that most gamblers always thought that they could possibly outsmart the casino by going on in with high risk and in the end their end up being caught up in the web, self-control is very important but most important also is to set aside an exact amount you want to gamble with and anything above that should be avoided in all totality.

Don't ever spend too much time gambling trying to chase any direction is the fastest way to keep losing.

People on average overestimate their abilities and underestimate their flaws, so when faced with the challenge of outsmarting the casinos and beat them at their own game they naively think they can do it, then once they begin to notice this is not the case their ego takes over and they want to fulfill this goal, then once they realize this is not possible they want to at least recover the money they have lost, and each one of these steps leads them towards a path which is very difficult to escape as at that point many would have developed an addiction already.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on June 26, 2023, 11:41:48 PM

It's different in alcohol addiction actually, I mean the process. I think I've been there when I was younger. Alcohol will start to taste sweet when you become addicted to it while it is supposed to taste really bad for others.
In gambling, it becomes a calling. Most of the time they want to get back whatever losses they experienced. Chasing losses. While for a few, it is because they felt how good the feeling of winning and spending it on something else.
I am not a gambling addict but I felt the chasing losses part where I want my money back. But after I lost everything in my balance I stopped and never did that again. It just leads to destruction and a more losing streak because you are not thinking straight anymore. Drunk to the illusion that one good winning bet will get you back on track. It does not work like that, especially in casino games. They will just keep on taking, they might give a little but the system will always be on the business side.

The process is almost similar for all kinds of addictions, when someone starts to do something, they do it for a little while or consume a small amount, and as time passes by, the amount keeps increasing and the time spent also keeps increasing, and if that is continued, it turns into an addiction. If it's about alcohol, you will start consuming more and more later on, and when it's about gambling, you start spending more time and more money when you are not new to it anymore.

Also, those people who stop gambling once they've lost everything when they were trying to chase their wins as you did, don't get addicted to it, but those who deposit even more to recover the previous amount are more likely to become addicts in no time.

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Quote from: rendravolt on June 29, 2023, 02:00:07 PM

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on May 12, 2023, 07:31:41 AM

- That's really bad, just because of the addiction to gambling and just to relieve it, even one's own grandson will be used just for money.
This is just one of the bad effects of gambling addiction.

So it's really important that you have self-control so that you don't end up like this. This is shameful and it is not normal for someone to do this. It's actually a psychological problem. It's sad when old people are still like that.

Yes self control is the ultimate tool to avoiding gambking addictions, because we have seen cases that are worst than this all as a result of gambling addictions, i hard a story of a guy who used his mum medical fees to gamble and lost everything while the mum is in the hospital, and this really affeted the family well being for a very long time while the son still struggle with the addiction.

But not many gamblers have that and often they lose control of what they have been doing. Self-control is the most important thing when gambling, it functions like we use a helmet to ride a motorbike and if an accident occurs, we will still be safe because of this safety. I am very concerned when there is such an incident and it is very unfortunate what his son has done, maybe from this story we should be more aware of how dangerous gambling addiction is and it comes back to each individual how they overcome existing addictions.

the thing is that most gamblers always thought that they could possibly outsmart the casino by going on in with high risk and in the end their end up being caught up in the web, self-control is very important but most important also is to set aside an exact amount you want to gamble with and anything above that should be avoided in all totality.

Don't ever spend too much time gambling trying to chase any direction is the fastest way to keep losing.

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Quote from: Wiwo on June 28, 2023, 07:00:05 PM

Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on May 12, 2023, 07:31:41 AM

- That's really bad, just because of the addiction to gambling and just to relieve it, even one's own grandson will be used just for money.
This is just one of the bad effects of gambling addiction.

So it's really important that you have self-control so that you don't end up like this. This is shameful and it is not normal for someone to do this. It's actually a psychological problem. It's sad when old people are still like that.

Yes self control is the ultimate tool to avoiding gambking addictions, because we have seen cases that are worst than this all as a result of gambling addictions, i hard a story of a guy who used his mum medical fees to gamble and lost everything while the mum is in the hospital, and this really affeted the family well being for a very long time while the son still struggle with the addiction.

How disappointing such an incident must be for the family, and I can only imagine the hardship such an act must have thrown the family into, this is one the things that leads addicted gamblers to depression which could later result to suicide if the matter is looked into on time..

Addiction is never a good thing, and from all I've personally observed, it seems like gambling addiction is the worst form of addiction since it could lead to several kinds of troubles if not put under control or avoided.

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Quote from: Wiwo on June 28, 2023, 07:00:05 PM

Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on May 12, 2023, 07:31:41 AM

- That's really bad, just because of the addiction to gambling and just to relieve it, even one's own grandson will be used just for money.
This is just one of the bad effects of gambling addiction.

So it's really important that you have self-control so that you don't end up like this. This is shameful and it is not normal for someone to do this. It's actually a psychological problem. It's sad when old people are still like that.

Yes self control is the ultimate tool to avoiding gambking addictions, because we have seen cases that are worst than this all as a result of gambling addictions, i hard a story of a guy who used his mum medical fees to gamble and lost everything while the mum is in the hospital, and this really affeted the family well being for a very long time while the son still struggle with the addiction.

But not many gamblers have that and often they lose control of what they have been doing. Self-control is the most important thing when gambling, it functions like we use a helmet to ride a motorbike and if an accident occurs, we will still be safe because of this safety. I am very concerned when there is such an incident and it is very unfortunate what his son has done, maybe from this story we should be more aware of how dangerous gambling addiction is and it comes back to each individual how they overcome existing addictions.

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Quote from: Doan9269 on June 26, 2023, 07:54:39 AM

I want to believe that too much of addiction in anything we do will make someone have a little percentage of madness in it and this keep developing to a more a bigger challenge over time, this is why we must control our emotional feelings and never allows it to control us, we have to take some delibrate steps in action to show gow determined we are in avoiding this from happening, gambling addiction added nothing into gambling than frustration and reproach at the end.

They won't get mad on that thing or activity that makes them addicted. They love it actually because why do they keep doing or using it to the point that they already became an addict? If they will be mad, that will only be to the people that are against their habit. This might be the reason on why an addicted gambler can do a crime like what is featured by the OP.

It could be that the gambler ask money for him to play more but he didn't get any so he just kidnapped his granddaughter and ask for a ransom money. It's not easy for an addicted person to control their emotion because if they do, then they will not become addict in the first place.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on June 28, 2023, 04:50:07 AM

Quote from: maydna on June 28, 2023, 04:16:55 AM

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Greed, overconfidence, and trying to recover from loss will always take over self-control in gambling. When you are gambling you get a false hope of control that brings excitement which forbids most of us to stop unless we end up with the money. I haven't found anyone able to stop before the money ends till now. The problem arises when we go ahead and start depositing more to recover our loss. This where the point of casual gambling ends and problem gambling starts.

Those who experience this will regret it after they finish playing because they have lost a lot of money without realizing it. And when they have finished gambling, they will feel so much anger and disappointment that it will make them want to return to gambling another day to recover their losses. But if they are aware, they will find it difficult to recover their losses because gambling is not designed to allow gamblers to recover their losses. While some can do it, it's not many people. And other people will lose more money. Any hope of recovering the loss will be lost to them as they have a hard time getting it back, and it will make them even more eager to try it another day. This will never end unless they realize their actions are wrong.

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Quote from: maydna on June 27, 2023, 04:38:43 PM

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That's because a temptation to keep gambling makes them continue to gamble. They will see more promotions coming up to make them curious. Curiosity triggers them to try to get it by depositing more money. They are not aware and continue to play gambling as usual, but all that exists is that they experience defeats that can even exceed their budget or limits. In addition, the desire to repeat gambling games will pull them deeper into gambling, and eventually, they will become addicted to gambling.

The key is to know when to stop, and for some people to know to never start.

The painful moment is when you have to stop because you don't have more money. And that can be a huge problem for many people, unfortunately.

Actually, this statement is easier said than done especially if you are not the one who are on their shoes to feel what it is like to be a servant of gambling with just having a limited choice because they already found it as a habit and so accustomed to play in the platform daily. But yes, for those who want to start their journey in the gambling industry or curious what it is like gambling, it is much better if they will not make that move as sooner or later, they will just regret it especially if they are not that ready.

it will indeed be difficult if we are in their position but nevertheless it is the path they choose to gamble without control and for me all of that can be a lesson for them to become professional gamblers. because professional gamblers start with many bad experiences in gambling such as losing a lot of money and having difficulty controlling themselves but from all experience if gamblers can think wisely I'm sure they will soon become professional gamblers and know when to stop gambling and avoid addiction.

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Quote from: Mr. Magkaisa on May 12, 2023, 07:31:41 AM

- That's really bad, just because of the addiction to gambling and just to relieve it, even one's own grandson will be used just for money.
This is just one of the bad effects of gambling addiction.

So it's really important that you have self-control so that you don't end up like this. This is shameful and it is not normal for someone to do this. It's actually a psychological problem. It's sad when old people are still like that.

Yes self control is the ultimate tool to avoiding gambking addictions, because we have seen cases that are worst than this all as a result of gambling addictions, i hard a story of a guy who used his mum medical fees to gamble and lost everything while the mum is in the hospital, and this really affeted the family well being for a very long time while the son still struggle with the addiction.

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Quote from: nullama on June 27, 2023, 11:52:19 PM

Quote from: maydna on June 27, 2023, 04:38:43 PM

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That's because a temptation to keep gambling makes them continue to gamble. They will see more promotions coming up to make them curious. Curiosity triggers them to try to get it by depositing more money. They are not aware and continue to play gambling as usual, but all that exists is that they experience defeats that can even exceed their budget or limits. In addition, the desire to repeat gambling games will pull them deeper into gambling, and eventually, they will become addicted to gambling.

The key is to know when to stop, and for some people to know to never start.

The painful moment is when you have to stop because you don't have more money. And that can be a huge problem for many people, unfortunately.

Actually, this statement is easier said than done especially if you are not the one who are on their shoes to feel what it is like to be a servant of gambling with just having a limited choice because they already found it as a habit and so accustomed to play in the platform daily. But yes, for those who want to start their journey in the gambling industry or curious what it is like gambling, it is much better if they will not make that move as sooner or later, they will just regret it especially if they are not that ready.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on June 28, 2023, 04:50:07 AM

~ I haven't found anyone able to stop before the money ends till now. The problem arises when we go ahead and start depositing more to recover our loss. This where the point of casual gambling ends and problem gambling starts.

I am engaged in such a practice and to be honest it is very difficult to finish the game when your account still has the money, but in my opinion this practice allows you to break the familiar every gambler's cycle, which ends with the loss of all money.

I believe the first thing each gambler must learn is to be able to limit themselves in the money to play and learn to finish gambling of their will, not when funds ran out. I believe that the ideal exit from gambling is the exit immediately after winning, but unfortunately this does not always work.

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Quote from: pakhitheboss on June 28, 2023, 04:50:07 AM

Quote from: maydna on June 28, 2023, 04:16:55 AM

If you have experience playing gambling and have good self-control, it may be easy for you to stop. But not for those who can't stop because they will definitely keep playing and maybe until the money runs out. Almost all of us have experienced this where we must stop because we have no more money to keep gambling. We should understand when to stop before the money runs out so we don't get into trouble later. We can deposit some more money because we have run out of money to play gambling, which can cause financial problems.

Greed, overconfidence, and trying to recover from loss will always take over self-control in gambling. When you are gambling you get a false hope of control that brings excitement which forbids most of us to stop unless we end up with the money. I haven't found anyone able to stop before the money ends till now. The problem arises when we go ahead and start depositing more to recover our loss. This where the point of casual gambling ends and problem gambling starts.

The kind of action that mostly present when you start adding more money to your bankroll,

If you already exceeded from a set target, the next thing that might happen is you also going to lose your control with the
situation, I go with greediness as one major factor that pushes a gambler to try making more or try to play again to win back
what they already lost. A gesture that will bring you to a more complicated situation, as it will be the beginning of your addiction.

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Quote from: maydna on June 28, 2023, 04:16:55 AM

If you have experience playing gambling and have good self-control, it may be easy for you to stop. But not for those who can't stop because they will definitely keep playing and maybe until the money runs out. Almost all of us have experienced this where we must stop because we have no more money to keep gambling. We should understand when to stop before the money runs out so we don't get into trouble later. We can deposit some more money because we have run out of money to play gambling, which can cause financial problems.

Greed, overconfidence, and trying to recover from loss will always take over self-control in gambling. When you are gambling you get a false hope of control that brings excitement which forbids most of us to stop unless we end up with the money. I haven't found anyone able to stop before the money ends till now. The problem arises when we go ahead and start depositing more to recover our loss. This where the point of casual gambling ends and problem gambling starts.

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Kinda hard to stop even for those who are good at self controlling, because by nature, humans gladly remember and find bad (a loss) and try to revenge (play back). People dont like to lose. I am 100% sure, that after a loosing significant amount, anyone will return with time and try to get his money back. People rarely remember their wins, but they remember well that hundred they have lost. They think they are smart and will deposit a few bucks, just to test to get that hundred back, than another few bucks. Gambling addiction can be stopped or cured, it can be only replaced with other passion, addiction or hobby.

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