The madness of gambling addicts. - page 90.

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Quote from: komisariatku on June 17, 2023, 06:18:12 AM

Quote from: macson on April 27, 2023, 09:01:15 AM

A Shanghai man was sentenced to prison for kidnapping his own granddaughter so he could maintain his gambling addiction with the ransom money...........................

OMG... I never thought there would be news like that, a grandfather kidnaps his grandson to ransom money to play gambling. This is crazy, I didn't expect anyone to have such thoughts.

It turns out that gambling can not only waste money, but can also destroy families. Even this incident was carried out by a grandfather with the age of 65 years?

What was the grandpa's motive, I thought he could ask his son for money, or maybe his family didn't care about that grandpa anymore because he wasted his money playing gambling. He had lost his mind. He should be enjoying old age and playing with his grandchildren, now he has to feel the cold of prison. I think this is a lesson, so that no one loses their minds when gambling. Gambling is a game of stakes, but never put everything on the line for gambling. Don't risk family relationships for the sake of gambling

This is a strong proof that if someone is madly addicted in gambling, he can do extreme and desperate measures just to satisfy his gambling addiction. Bad habits are hard to break. It takes time and strong mental stamina in order to break free from the usual routine you are used to doing. If the grandfather is excessively dependent on gambling, he'll definitely crave it to the point he'll do whatever it takes just to gamble again.

It's just so disappointing how a relative can be so selfish to put someone's life at stake for the sake of money. This is why we need to check up on the people we love to see whether they are doing just fine or they are going through some hardships such as gambling addiction which is a serious problem that needs intervention. By doing that, we could avoid things to escalate to this.

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Quote from: macson on April 27, 2023, 09:01:15 AM

A Shanghai man was sentenced to prison for kidnapping his own granddaughter so he could maintain his gambling addiction with the ransom money...........................

OMG... I never thought there would be news like that, a grandfather kidnaps his grandson to ransom money to play gambling. This is crazy, I didn't expect anyone to have such thoughts.

It turns out that gambling can not only waste money, but can also destroy families. Even this incident was carried out by a grandfather with the age of 65 years?

What was the grandpa's motive, I thought he could ask his son for money, or maybe his family didn't care about that grandpa anymore because he wasted his money playing gambling. He had lost his mind. He should be enjoying old age and playing with his grandchildren, now he has to feel the cold of prison. I think this is a lesson, so that no one loses their minds when gambling. Gambling is a game of stakes, but never put everything on the line for gambling. Don't risk family relationships for the sake of gambling

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 11, 2023, 03:25:02 AM

Don't dream too much of getting big wins; only think of gambling as fun. We will not be so eager to chase that win by thinking like that and the best thing is that we can manage our money to gamble and enjoy the moment of playing gambling.

That's how it should be but many gamblers are not treating gambling as a way to entertain themselves. We all want to gain huge but gambling is not the answer to achieve that because of the high risk. If some gamblers are lucky to hit a huge jackpot, other gamblers are losing their money and some of these are desperate to accumulate funds to sustain their gambling activity just like the story in the op.

If we gamble we need to accept the result, never chase your losses and quit as early as you can. Because if you became addicted it would be hard already to stop. So keep in mind to only gamble in moderation to avoid the negative effect of gambling.

Many gamblers want to get big wins but don't understand that in gambling, we have to have luck to win. And as it turns out, many of them lose and can't recover their losses and if they keep trying, they have more chances to lose a lot of money.

And when it gets out of control, they will get angry and finally think they should continue gambling again. It will not provide good results for them but will provide more losses. We shouldn't be like that, especially if we are little gamblers or just gamblers who just want to win. We can try to find other ways to make money.

In gambling winning is a big factor. It is completely unreasonable to expect a big win in gambling. Because gambling is a matter of luck. If gambler's luck with him then it takes no time to succeed in gambling and if luck does not favor then there is no option but to lose. As victory and defeat are uncertain, no one can be sure what will happen in the coming days. But if gambling can be conducted regularly within a certain limit without becoming addicted then it can be called decent gambling. A gambler must keep in mind that the more he conducts betting with the aim of recovering his losses, he will lose more. The real target of gambling should be to enjoy only in the purpose of pleasure.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 17, 2023, 02:54:27 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 16, 2023, 05:59:27 AM

Yes, you are right, if we care about our family then that will automatically raise our concern for other people who even if they don't have any relationship with us. I think this is something that every human being has, because basically we can't live forever without other people. And when something like this happens, believe something good will come to us for our concern for others, it is a law of reciprocity or a law of nature that will always happen.
Maybe one day, even if it's not us, but our family members who are having difficulties, somehow there will be someone else to help.

Concern for others will lead us to goodness because what we do to others will come back to us later. That way if some people or relatives have problems with gambling, we will know and be able to act on what we have to do, especially if it is our immediate family. And even though it's not our immediate family but other people, we will also help him because we know that helping people, especially those who need help, is kindness. So people with a gambling addiction often get angry and can calm their anger and have the opportunity to talk about it and cure it with our help.

Indeed, if we know someone who is suffering with the kind of addictions,

Our first reaction is to find ways on how we can help them, even they are not asking for it but the concern for us knowing that
they can ruin their life will push us to try encouraging them and accept the assistance that we wanted to provide, to the extent
that we will continue making our ways to make them realize that they needed to re-assess whatever they are suffering.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 17, 2023, 02:54:27 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 16, 2023, 05:59:27 AM

Yes, you are right, if we care about our family then that will automatically raise our concern for other people who even if they don't have any relationship with us. I think this is something that every human being has, because basically we can't live forever without other people. And when something like this happens, believe something good will come to us for our concern for others, it is a law of reciprocity or a law of nature that will always happen.
Maybe one day, even if it's not us, but our family members who are having difficulties, somehow there will be someone else to help.

Concern for others will lead us to goodness because what we do to others will come back to us later. That way if some people or relatives have problems with gambling, we will know and be able to act on what we have to do, especially if it is our immediate family. And even though it's not our immediate family but other people, we will also help him because we know that helping people, especially those who need help, is kindness. So people with a gambling addiction often get angry and can calm their anger and have the opportunity to talk about it and cure it with our help.

Sometimes when your relative is into gambling, you will not even know but outsiders will be gossiping about it and it is only someone that loves you that will bring the information to you. Especially as anyone can easily gambling with their phones it will be difficult for anyone to know who is gambling or not.
But advices making you to understand your family will go along way to curb addiction only if the person cares about their family.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 17, 2023, 02:54:27 AM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 16, 2023, 05:59:27 AM

Yes, you are right, if we care about our family then that will automatically raise our concern for other people who even if they don't have any relationship with us. I think this is something that every human being has, because basically we can't live forever without other people. And when something like this happens, believe something good will come to us for our concern for others, it is a law of reciprocity or a law of nature that will always happen.
Maybe one day, even if it's not us, but our family members who are having difficulties, somehow there will be someone else to help.

Concern for others will lead us to goodness because what we do to others will come back to us later. That way if some people or relatives have problems with gambling, we will know and be able to act on what we have to do, especially if it is our immediate family. And even though it's not our immediate family but other people, we will also help him because we know that helping people, especially those who need help, is kindness. So people with a gambling addiction often get angry and can calm their anger and have the opportunity to talk about it and cure it with our help.

Actually this is where the real challenge is, I mean when a gambler becomes someone who gets angry or emotional easily, we must have patience, because otherwise we will definitely let them be more because we are afraid that we will be carried away by our emotions too. Handling people who are addicted is not as easy as imagined, we have to really sacrifice extra and slowly to understand what they want first. Because if we immediately impose our will then it will not reach a point where they will understand and realize that we are helping them let go of something that is excessive in them.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 16, 2023, 05:59:27 AM

Yes, you are right, if we care about our family then that will automatically raise our concern for other people who even if they don't have any relationship with us. I think this is something that every human being has, because basically we can't live forever without other people. And when something like this happens, believe something good will come to us for our concern for others, it is a law of reciprocity or a law of nature that will always happen.
Maybe one day, even if it's not us, but our family members who are having difficulties, somehow there will be someone else to help.

Concern for others will lead us to goodness because what we do to others will come back to us later. That way if some people or relatives have problems with gambling, we will know and be able to act on what we have to do, especially if it is our immediate family. And even though it's not our immediate family but other people, we will also help him because we know that helping people, especially those who need help, is kindness. So people with a gambling addiction often get angry and can calm their anger and have the opportunity to talk about it and cure it with our help.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 15, 2023, 05:44:08 AM

That is why we must have a good relationship with our family, and we must also be sensitive to the environment around us, at least within our own family environment. I think that changes in attitude and behavior will definitely occur, whether it's obvious or just small signs, if we are sensitive to the circumstances around us, we will know immediately what is happening and that is our opportunity to make an approach before everything becomes a bigger problem.
But indeed sometimes now we are not sensitive even to ourselves, sometimes we are indifferent to the environment around us because we feel we also have problems and no one else helps.

That's another benefit if we have emotional closeness to family members where we can see if changes occur in one of our family members. And if they run into trouble, we can quickly get help before it's too late. Sensitivity towards family members will train us to care about other people around us who are not family members. And who knows, we can also see that there are people around us who are addicted to gambling, but they have difficulty expressing it. And we can try to help him to cure his gambling addiction.

Yes, you are right, if we care about our family then that will automatically raise our concern for other people who even if they don't have any relationship with us. I think this is something that every human being has, because basically we can't live forever without other people. And when something like this happens, believe something good will come to us for our concern for others, it is a law of reciprocity or a law of nature that will always happen.
Maybe one day, even if it's not us, but our family members who are having difficulties, somehow there will be someone else to help.

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Quote from: nullama on June 13, 2023, 09:17:39 PM

Quote from: Doan9269 on June 13, 2023, 04:49:03 AM

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You will found out that every gambling addicted individuals will always loose control of himself and end lacking the perfect direction to how they should live or handle their personal lives, such ends up in hunger because they have no money left to feed themselves with neither do they have any quality source of income that they are serious with and giving them source of income, which means it will do much of harm than good if we are gambling addicted.

That's common in many addictions, but it's specially true in gambling, because you can lose so much money in such a short amount of time.

The thing is that it's an order of magnitude more expensive than any other addictions, because you physically cannot consume/use that much of the drug/addiction in a day, whereas with gambling you can lose all your money in a single day.

Well, Maybe I don't know how it fells since am not the type of addicted gambler like many of those under this category, which never have the sense of perception to how much they are missing at the cauae of excessive gambling without boarders, I don't even know of they have a kind of future long term plan for themselves to set a goal and pursue after since all they do is to spend all their income till it exhausted in gambling than busy thinking carefully about other areas of their life.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 15, 2023, 05:44:08 AM

That is why we must have a good relationship with our family, and we must also be sensitive to the environment around us, at least within our own family environment. I think that changes in attitude and behavior will definitely occur, whether it's obvious or just small signs, if we are sensitive to the circumstances around us, we will know immediately what is happening and that is our opportunity to make an approach before everything becomes a bigger problem.
But indeed sometimes now we are not sensitive even to ourselves, sometimes we are indifferent to the environment around us because we feel we also have problems and no one else helps.

That's another benefit if we have emotional closeness to family members where we can see if changes occur in one of our family members. And if they run into trouble, we can quickly get help before it's too late. Sensitivity towards family members will train us to care about other people around us who are not family members. And who knows, we can also see that there are people around us who are addicted to gambling, but they have difficulty expressing it. And we can try to help him to cure his gambling addiction.

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Quote from: nullama on June 13, 2023, 12:37:22 AM

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Gambling is a really powerful addiction, and extremely expensive when it goes wrong.

The thing is that it doesn't get the same attention as other addictions like heroin, alcohol, tobacco, etc, but it's probably even worse.

The reason gambling addiction doesn't get as much attention as drug addiction is because the government seems to think that gambling addiction is less damaging than drug addiction. Even though we understand that gambling addiction can make people crazy and can do anything they can to be able to get money to gamble, even when it means selling their assets or even their own children or those closest to them. The government should understand that gambling addiction also needs to be handled just like drug addiction. They need help, so they won't become criminals.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on June 15, 2023, 05:56:07 AM

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Also, we see sometimes ads on social media from different doctors telling about their services for the cure of alcohol or tobacco addiction, but no one says a word about gambling addiction. It seems that the whole of society is silent when it comes to gambling addiction.

Many doctors provide services for addiction to alcohol, tobacco or even drugs because of these three it is easier to stop than an addict and many doctor's prescriptions that can cure it are far different from gambling which is both nature psychology to be able to stop it.
Gambling addiction is more difficult to stop and no one can provide services to stop gambling because the only thing that can stop an addict is himself with will and changing all his mindset.

So don't assume that society is silent about gambling addiction.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on June 15, 2023, 05:56:07 AM

The reason why gambling addiction gets no attention is that no one considers it as an addiction. The gamblers think that they are playing gamble and it's normal and the same for the gambler's family who never knows if there is anything like excessive gambling or gambling addiction.

Also, we see sometimes ads on social media from different doctors telling about their services for the cure of alcohol or tobacco addiction, but no one says a word about gambling addiction. It seems that the whole of society is silent when it comes to gambling addiction.

What happens is that gambling addiction is in a way invisible, if someone is addicted to alcohol then you can see, hear and even smell that the person always reeks of alcohol at all times every single time you meet them, so after a few times in which this happens you can tell there is a problem, however gambling addiction is not as simple to detect, as the only way for you to know this it would be for you to live with that person and notice they are always gambling and take a look at their bank statement and see they are losing their money at an alarming speed.

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Quote from: nullama on June 13, 2023, 12:37:22 AM

Quote from: Ebede on June 12, 2023, 05:21:02 PM

Gambling addicts will stop at nothing unless the gamble to quench hunger for it temporary, gambling is one of the most addictive activity that has ever existed, people can do anything as far as gambling is concerned it is important to understand that gambling affect some persons to the extent that the can do without it.

Gambling is a really powerful addiction, and extremely expensive when it goes wrong.

The thing is that it doesn't get the same attention as other addictions like heroin, alcohol, tobacco, etc, but it's probably even worse.

The reason why gambling addiction gets no attention is that no one considers it as an addiction. The gamblers think that they are playing gamble and it's normal and the same for the gambler's family who never knows if there is anything like excessive gambling or gambling addiction.

Also, we see sometimes ads on social media from different doctors telling about their services for the cure of alcohol or tobacco addiction, but no one says a word about gambling addiction. It seems that the whole of society is silent when it comes to gambling addiction.

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People addicted to gambling will not care about their surroundings because they only think about gambling and gambling. That made them even more alone in gambling with no one to communicate with to help them get out of gambling because he did not think about quitting gambling even though he had won several times.

When someone experiences defeat, they tend to get angry and vent their anger on the things around them. And their anger is often carried away for some time and they have difficulty suppressing it. We are really lucky if we don't experience gambling addiction because we can still enjoy gambling as entertainment and we can still enjoy life.

Exactly like what I said before, they wouldn't care about the surroundings. And I think they will show changes in behavior as a result of their addiction, so if we want and can, we can help them get out of that circle, especially if it is our family. I really understand, when we advise an addict then we will receive a reply that if we are easily offended, we will be very offended. But we also have to understand that what they do is not from themselves but from the influence of the addiction they experience. However if we are able, we should try to help them.

The key here is how his family can see a change in that person so that they can immediately approach him personally and ask about the problem if they know there is a striking change. But the problem is that not all families can pay attention to their family members. And even many families tend not to know if there is a change from one of the family members.

Maybe by approaching him personally and asking for the change, a gambling addict can open up and say the truth so that his family members can immediately give advice and help him. This needs openness and wanting to pay attention to each other from each family member.

That is why we must have a good relationship with our family, and we must also be sensitive to the environment around us, at least within our own family environment. I think that changes in attitude and behavior will definitely occur, whether it's obvious or just small signs, if we are sensitive to the circumstances around us, we will know immediately what is happening and that is our opportunity to make an approach before everything becomes a bigger problem.
But indeed sometimes now we are not sensitive even to ourselves, sometimes we are indifferent to the environment around us because we feel we also have problems and no one else helps.

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Quote from: Asuspawer09 on June 13, 2023, 06:58:31 PM

Quote from: Tumanggor on June 12, 2023, 03:54:12 PM

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Most gambling addicts In my opinion absolutely have control over their own self but it is just a matter of discipline and how committed he is to changing or stopping their addiction, I don't believe that they don't have a choice and doesnt have any control, but they just let their addiction take over. I mean gambling wasn't really like drugs, cigarettes, or any kind of substance that actually affects your body making you go crazy if you doesnt have any of it, and your body just wanted this substance every day I could say that's a different story.

Yeah, we don't see a lot of this kind of story on the news or internet so their was probably some kind of mental disorder to the grandfather in my opinion, or maybe he's just way to stress to think straight anymore because of his problems. It is possible that he just doesnt have anyone to tell he's a problem so he's just keeping it to himself.

Isn't it amusing you see gambling as 'less addictive' since it lacks a physical component? Here's a truth bomb - our brains, nestled right in our heads, are the most potent addiction triggers Gambling works like a covert operator—it may appear benign, but it tickles your brain's reward system, setting off a dopamine surge. It's a mental fiesta, and everyone loves a good party, don't they? But an endless party turns into a nightmare when the 'stop' button vanishes. As for grandpa, it could be stress, mental disorder, or an extreme fondness for bingo. We can't pin it down. But we do know society often makes it hard for people to spill their troubles. The classic 'keep calm and carry on' mindset - it's high time for a shift

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We can see from the syllable alone, that "addiction" has a negative nature. Someone who is addicted will forget the environment around him even he will forget himself. Moreover, this is related to finances, we know that today it is very difficult to get money and they spend it at the gambling table, they have no control over themselves because they are already controlled by thoughts that are uncomfortable when they are not gambling.
I personally am a gambler, it's just the difference between me and us who realize that excessive gambling will have very bad consequences and that is something extraordinary, I mean when we can control ourselves it's a difficult thing to do.

People addicted to gambling will not care about their surroundings because they only think about gambling and gambling. That made them even more alone in gambling with no one to communicate with to help them get out of gambling because he did not think about quitting gambling even though he had won several times.

When someone experiences defeat, they tend to get angry and vent their anger on the things around them. And their anger is often carried away for some time and they have difficulty suppressing it. We are really lucky if we don't experience gambling addiction because we can still enjoy gambling as entertainment and we can still enjoy life.

Exactly like what I said before, they wouldn't care about the surroundings. And I think they will show changes in behavior as a result of their addiction, so if we want and can, we can help them get out of that circle, especially if it is our family. I really understand, when we advise an addict then we will receive a reply that if we are easily offended, we will be very offended. But we also have to understand that what they do is not from themselves but from the influence of the addiction they experience. However if we are able, we should try to help them.

The key here is how his family can see a change in that person so that they can immediately approach him personally and ask about the problem if they know there is a striking change. But the problem is that not all families can pay attention to their family members. And even many families tend not to know if there is a change from one of the family members.

Maybe by approaching him personally and asking for the change, a gambling addict can open up and say the truth so that his family members can immediately give advice and help him. This needs openness and wanting to pay attention to each other from each family member.

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Quote from: nullama on June 13, 2023, 12:37:22 AM

Quote from: Ebede on June 12, 2023, 05:21:02 PM

Gambling addicts will stop at nothing unless the gamble to quench hunger for it temporary, gambling is one of the most addictive activity that has ever existed, people can do anything as far as gambling is concerned it is important to understand that gambling affect some persons to the extent that the can do without it.

Gambling is a really powerful addiction, and extremely expensive when it goes wrong.

The thing is that it doesn't get the same attention as other addictions like heroin, alcohol, tobacco, etc, but it's probably even worse.

Gambling addicts will not stop before their assets run out, because they have run out of capital. Alcoholics won't stop until they get sick. Because his body can no longer drink alcohol.

But gamblers who are smart they will stop when they experience defeat. Reliable gamblers, they will continue to think about how to continue to get wins and minimize the risk of experiencing defeat when playing gambling and when they get a win they will immediately finish the game. Not adding to the bet that deepens the defeat.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 13, 2023, 10:31:39 PM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 13, 2023, 11:05:24 AM

We can see from the syllable alone, that "addiction" has a negative nature. Someone who is addicted will forget the environment around him even he will forget himself. Moreover, this is related to finances, we know that today it is very difficult to get money and they spend it at the gambling table, they have no control over themselves because they are already controlled by thoughts that are uncomfortable when they are not gambling.
I personally am a gambler, it's just the difference between me and us who realize that excessive gambling will have very bad consequences and that is something extraordinary, I mean when we can control ourselves it's a difficult thing to do.

People addicted to gambling will not care about their surroundings because they only think about gambling and gambling. That made them even more alone in gambling with no one to communicate with to help them get out of gambling because he did not think about quitting gambling even though he had won several times.

When someone experiences defeat, they tend to get angry and vent their anger on the things around them. And their anger is often carried away for some time and they have difficulty suppressing it. We are really lucky if we don't experience gambling addiction because we can still enjoy gambling as entertainment and we can still enjoy life.

Exactly like what I said before, they wouldn't care about the surroundings. And I think they will show changes in behavior as a result of their addiction, so if we want and can, we can help them get out of that circle, especially if it is our family. I really understand, when we advise an addict then we will receive a reply that if we are easily offended, we will be very offended. But we also have to understand that what they do is not from themselves but from the influence of the addiction they experience. However if we are able, we should try to help them.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on June 13, 2023, 11:05:24 AM

We can see from the syllable alone, that "addiction" has a negative nature. Someone who is addicted will forget the environment around him even he will forget himself. Moreover, this is related to finances, we know that today it is very difficult to get money and they spend it at the gambling table, they have no control over themselves because they are already controlled by thoughts that are uncomfortable when they are not gambling.
I personally am a gambler, it's just the difference between me and us who realize that excessive gambling will have very bad consequences and that is something extraordinary, I mean when we can control ourselves it's a difficult thing to do.

People addicted to gambling will not care about their surroundings because they only think about gambling and gambling. That made them even more alone in gambling with no one to communicate with to help them get out of gambling because he did not think about quitting gambling even though he had won several times.

When someone experiences defeat, they tend to get angry and vent their anger on the things around them. And their anger is often carried away for some time and they have difficulty suppressing it. We are really lucky if we don't experience gambling addiction because we can still enjoy gambling as entertainment and we can still enjoy life.

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