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Quote from: STT on June 08, 2023, 04:43:52 PM

Hit the jackpot and stop is more sensible then alot of plans and at least it is a plan. I think the worst actions would be completely unplanned, unscripted and not remembered even. At least you can learn from events you remember clearly, its all just reactionary then nothing is learnt just repeated. The worst mistakes are repeated, always try to gain something even in loss that can be valuable I have found thats small but some consolation.

That is pretty much the only way to win against a casino. Winning big so that you are in the positive, and never ever playing again in your lifetime.

The thing is that most people that receive that large amount of money feel like they can do it again, which is almost impossible, and continue gambling away their earnings.

Casinos now this, so they of course invite you back, treat you with VIP status, etc, because they want their money back Grin

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Hit the jackpot and stop is more sensible then alot of plans and at least it is a plan. I think the worst actions would be completely unplanned, unscripted and not remembered even. At least you can learn from events you remember clearly, its all just reactionary then nothing is learnt just repeated. The worst mistakes are repeated, always try to gain something even in loss that can be valuable I have found thats small but some consolation.

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Quote from: Huppercase on June 08, 2023, 03:20:38 PM

I believe that doing too much of anything is bad in life, gambling should be scheduled and rules should be followed so that as a player, temptations do not cause you to play games you are not supposed to play, or wager amounts you are supposed to use for upkeep; there are some players who will use their dinner money to gamble and sleep on an empty stomach; this is the level of addiction that gambling can cause some players, and it is very bad.

Well, that should always be are own responsibility. Some people may want the casinos to put a limit tracker on every users account to control this kind of madness, but I dont think that will be necessary since casinos are also a business entity and they are also looking for huge profits.
What you have said above is true and it's supposed to be followed by every gamblers responsibly. Unfortunately, there are always these people who overdo gambling not only because he's hooked up with the games, but are also chasing huge jackpot, but we all know that ain't easy to hit. The mindset that these people have is to hit just 1 time jackpot and enjoy early retirement. Well, i think that's almost fantasy lol.

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Quote from: Huppercase on June 08, 2023, 03:20:38 PM

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Quote from: noormcs5 on June 05, 2023, 01:19:34 PM

The main issue is that gamblers do not admit that they are addicted to the gambling and this is the main cause or reason that they are unable to quit gambling because they do not consider themselves addicted. When you are not willing to accept that you are unfit, how will you take steps to make you fit?
This is exactly true with gambling addicts. They think they are just gambling normally and hence they will never take steps that will make them gamble less or take a break from gambling. They keep losing money and think it is only because of bad luck and still not willing to accept that they are addicted to gambling.

Another reason why they do not improve is that even if they recognize they are addicted to gambling, they also understand the road to their recovery will be very hard, so when given the choice between keeping their addiction going on or to stop, they prefer to keep it going as it is easier, besides when they think of all the people they have offended or let down they are afraid that when they finally take the decision to stop there will be no one there to help them, a real possibility if they have been addicted for a very long time.

Gambling addiction is a psychological battle where people can become hooked without even realizing it until someone points it out, it's akin to thinking you're doing the right thing when, in fact, you're at fault. So many people fall into this trap, oblivious to their addiction, only a handful of ones recognize their mistake or acknowledge their gambling addiction and when they fail to address it early on and deny its existence, it becomes increasingly challenging to overcome.

I believe that doing too much of anything is bad in life, gambling should be scheduled and rules should be followed so that as a player, temptations do not cause you to play games you are not supposed to play, or wager amounts you are supposed to use for upkeep; there are some players who will use their dinner money to gamble and sleep on an empty stomach; this is the level of addiction that gambling can cause some players, and it is very bad.

We know that people does have different level of self control when it comes to this manner or simply with gambling activity on which they would really be having that kind of treatment whether they would really
be just sticking into that basic behavior that it is really just good for leisure thing or would really be that something that making it as a source of income or making them rich. This is why gambling industry becomes even more bigger as the years passing by on which it would really be just that normal that there are people whom would really be getting addicted on the time that they would really be getting
some involvement. Although not all players or gamblers would really be going into such situation or condition but pretty sure that huge percentage of them would really fall into that. This is where if addiction hits hard then they would definitely be doing all sorts of things on which they do believe that they could really be able to win up time to time and this what makes them desperate and
this is the primary thing that you should really be avoiding in the first place.

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Quote from: Silberman on June 06, 2023, 02:22:12 AM

Quote from: noormcs5 on June 05, 2023, 01:19:34 PM

The main issue is that gamblers do not admit that they are addicted to the gambling and this is the main cause or reason that they are unable to quit gambling because they do not consider themselves addicted. When you are not willing to accept that you are unfit, how will you take steps to make you fit?
This is exactly true with gambling addicts. They think they are just gambling normally and hence they will never take steps that will make them gamble less or take a break from gambling. They keep losing money and think it is only because of bad luck and still not willing to accept that they are addicted to gambling.

Another reason why they do not improve is that even if they recognize they are addicted to gambling, they also understand the road to their recovery will be very hard, so when given the choice between keeping their addiction going on or to stop, they prefer to keep it going as it is easier, besides when they think of all the people they have offended or let down they are afraid that when they finally take the decision to stop there will be no one there to help them, a real possibility if they have been addicted for a very long time.

Gambling addiction is a psychological battle where people can become hooked without even realizing it until someone points it out, it's akin to thinking you're doing the right thing when, in fact, you're at fault. So many people fall into this trap, oblivious to their addiction, only a handful of ones recognize their mistake or acknowledge their gambling addiction and when they fail to address it early on and deny its existence, it becomes increasingly challenging to overcome.

I believe that doing too much of anything is bad in life, gambling should be scheduled and rules should be followed so that as a player, temptations do not cause you to play games you are not supposed to play, or wager amounts you are supposed to use for upkeep; there are some players who will use their dinner money to gamble and sleep on an empty stomach; this is the level of addiction that gambling can cause some players, and it is very bad.

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Quote from: Renampun on June 07, 2023, 02:07:11 PM

I accept the reason that gambling is an alternative to stressing relief and also a trigger for adrenaline, but I can't stop thinking about people who think gambling is the best, fastest, and most comfortable way to make money and get rich in one night because in fact, many people fall into be an addicts gambling because their initial goal at gambling was wrong. so that your steps in gambling are not wrong, then your initial goal is that you have to fix it and don't have high expectations for gambling, it will make you rich.

Imagination and fantasy of gambling will lead to desperation, building hopes that will never come true, taking on higher odds, that six average clubs will win top clubs, it's not going to happen. Addiction to gambling is out of the ordinary in this case. There is no tolerance for addiction; they barely survived the losses and difficult condition in the gambling industry. Addicts are always willing to do anything as long as it involves gambling, taking huge risks, and ending themselves in deep debt. Wealth can never be built on gambling, its a gradual process of solid and positive mindset, one can never be in a good state of mind to set up good planning towards been financially stable.

Addiction pushed anyone to do things that not really unusual, though for sake of having fulfil their gambling addiction they are willing and will keep doing it to satisfy what they want, for most cases, gambling addicted person drained his personal saving then take loans and worse than that are selling things to the point that a person are willing to do illegal things just to gain money to play.

Something that starts from a bad impression that gambling can bring them easy fortune and will let them fulfill quick access to richness.

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Quote from: Renampun on June 07, 2023, 02:07:11 PM

I accept the reason that gambling is an alternative to stressing relief and also a trigger for adrenaline, but I can't stop thinking about people who think gambling is the best, fastest, and most comfortable way to make money and get rich in one night because in fact, many people fall into be an addicts gambling because their initial goal at gambling was wrong. so that your steps in gambling are not wrong, then your initial goal is that you have to fix it and don't have high expectations for gambling, it will make you rich.

Imagination and fantasy of gambling will lead to desperation, building hopes that will never come true, taking on higher odds, that six average clubs will win top clubs, it's not going to happen. Addiction to gambling is out of the ordinary in this case. There is no tolerance for addiction; they barely survived the losses and difficult condition in the gambling industry. Addicts are always willing to do anything as long as it involves gambling, taking huge risks, and ending themselves in deep debt. Wealth can never be built on gambling, its a gradual process of solid and positive mindset, one can never be in a good state of mind to set up good planning towards been financially stable.

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Quote from: Fesatmas on June 06, 2023, 11:47:33 AM

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Now I agree with this, if we start gambling hoping that we just want to get pleasure, sometimes luck often comes, I often feel this way. Gambling is a choice, it is true, if one does not want to lose money then never try it. Sometimes there are also many of them who cannot accept the fact that they have lost at gambling, and that has a very negative impact on their life. On the other hand, it is not uncommon for someone to experience prolonged stress. In my opinion, if someone has an emotional nature it is better to avoid gambling because this can make your life messy from a financial and psychological perspective.

Gambling can be extremely bad for people, while at the same time being an entertainment to others.

It's all about personal responsibility. You need to always remain in control, and think about it rationally. The probability of winning big is almost zero, so if you're fine with that, and just want to have some fun gambling with a maximum amount that you are comfortable losing, it's all good.

The issue appears when people over spend and over spend, until they are broke.

It's an addiction, just like alcohol. Also similar to how people keep eating more and more all the time until they are morbidly obese. It's all in the hands of each person, but it's hard to stop once you have an addiction.

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Yeah right, it's still you that will decide to whatever action you take. Gambling is your sole responsibility for how restricted you are or whatever things that may affect your gambling activities. It's still you who will decide in what direction you will take. It's your responsibility at all cause your decision will state every action that you will going to take.

Not going to go with religion or other culture, but I will stay with your own decision making and whatever action that you pick regarding to your gambling participation.

gambling is surly a choice and there is no second opinion about it most of the people do it for adrenail gush while to other does it to reveal stress.

I accept the reason that gambling is an alternative to stressing relief and also a trigger for adrenaline, but I can't stop thinking about people who think gambling is the best, fastest, and most comfortable way to make money and get rich in one night because in fact, many people fall into be an addicts gambling because their initial goal at gambling was wrong. so that your steps in gambling are not wrong, then your initial goal is that you have to fix it and don't have high expectations for gambling, it will make you rich.

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Quote from: tusandii on June 06, 2023, 10:53:28 AM

You are right that not all gambling can result in gambling but if we gamble for fun and without thinking about profit then luck can come by itself and we will have profits.
If you say that a disaster is not a disaster because gambling is an option so any risk must be accepted gracefully even though sometimes this risk can give someone a big loss.

No, they will not stop gambling for profit because they already have more curiosity in gambling making it more difficult to leave gambling.

Now I agree with this, if we start gambling hoping that we just want to get pleasure, sometimes luck often comes, I often feel this way. Gambling is a choice, it is true, if one does not want to lose money then never try it. Sometimes there are also many of them who cannot accept the fact that they have lost at gambling, and that has a very negative impact on their life. On the other hand, it is not uncommon for someone to experience prolonged stress. In my opinion, if someone has an emotional nature it is better to avoid gambling because this can make your life messy from a financial and psychological perspective.

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Quote from: Cryptock on June 05, 2023, 07:06:24 AM

not everytime gambling is going to beinift the gamblor. Sometimes its is a disaster. It sometimes kill the person. At the end everyone quits gambling for their benifits.

You are right that not all gambling can result in gambling but if we gamble for fun and without thinking about profit then luck can come by itself and we will have profits.
If you say that a disaster is not a disaster because gambling is an option so any risk must be accepted gracefully even though sometimes this risk can give someone a big loss.

No, they will not stop gambling for profit because they already have more curiosity in gambling making it more difficult to leave gambling.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on June 05, 2023, 01:19:34 PM

Quote from: klidex on June 04, 2023, 04:56:27 AM

We have discussed too often about addiction, in general they will do anything to fulfill their addiction to gambling.
A gambler who admits that he is an addict is very easy to cure because they still realize that this is actually wrong.
Except for addicts who are not aware that they are gambling addicts, this is what is difficult to cure.
It is the involvement of these illegal drugs that sometimes helps gambling addicts to better meet their addiction needs so that they will become more difficult to cure gambling addicts.[/left]

The main issue is that gamblers do not admit that they are addicted to the gambling and this is the main cause or reason that they are unable to quit gambling because they do not consider themselves addicted. When you are not willing to accept that you are unfit, how will you take steps to make you fit?
This is exactly true with gambling addicts. They think they are just gambling normally and hence they will never take steps that will make them gamble less or take a break from gambling. They keep losing money and think it is only because of bad luck and still not willing to accept that they are addicted to gambling.

Another reason why they do not improve is that even if they recognize they are addicted to gambling, they also understand the road to their recovery will be very hard, so when given the choice between keeping their addiction going on or to stop, they prefer to keep it going as it is easier, besides when they think of all the people they have offended or let down they are afraid that when they finally take the decision to stop there will be no one there to help them, a real possibility if they have been addicted for a very long time.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on June 05, 2023, 01:19:34 PM

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The main issue is that gamblers do not admit that they are addicted to the gambling and this is the main cause or reason that they are unable to quit gambling because they do not consider themselves addicted. When you are not willing to accept that you are unfit, how will you take steps to make you fit?
This is exactly true with gambling addicts. They think they are just gambling normally and hence they will never take steps that will make them gamble less or take a break from gambling. They keep losing money and think it is only because of bad luck and still not willing to accept that they are addicted to gambling.

Yeah, it is an actual addiction, and it's particularly dangerous because you can lose your entire life savings in one go. And people that live through that have a horrible time afterwards, way worse than any alcohol induced hangover ever will.

If you ever think that you're gambling again to "recover your losses", that's kinda like drinking alcohol to ease your hangover, it's just downhill from there.

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Quote from: klidex on June 04, 2023, 04:56:27 AM

We have discussed too often about addiction, in general they will do anything to fulfill their addiction to gambling.
A gambler who admits that he is an addict is very easy to cure because they still realize that this is actually wrong.
Except for addicts who are not aware that they are gambling addicts, this is what is difficult to cure.
It is the involvement of these illegal drugs that sometimes helps gambling addicts to better meet their addiction needs so that they will become more difficult to cure gambling addicts.[/left]

The main issue is that gamblers do not admit that they are addicted to the gambling and this is the main cause or reason that they are unable to quit gambling because they do not consider themselves addicted. When you are not willing to accept that you are unfit, how will you take steps to make you fit?
This is exactly true with gambling addicts. They think they are just gambling normally and hence they will never take steps that will make them gamble less or take a break from gambling. They keep losing money and think it is only because of bad luck and still not willing to accept that they are addicted to gambling.

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Quote from: X-ray on June 05, 2023, 05:09:49 AM

It's very hard to control gambling addict. I don't even know but it seems like to me if i can assume once people being addicted in gambling and then mostly of them will be losing their mind. In most cases in my country when someone mostly of suicide cases were always related to the gambling.

Here's the cycle.

Someone being addicted to the gambling - Running out of money to gambling with - Take loan/sell everything - he can't afford to pay loan loan that already gambled - he suicide due to the so many pressures that came to him

It looks so pathetic to think that if people are losing their mind when it came to the gambling but it seems like that they have no control over themselves since they were dealing to gamble their money.

I do believe if what they have known is about gambling is a way to multiple your money. I don't even know why it's very hard for people to take it as entertaining purpose only.

Hi, X-ray

I have quoted you, but it is nothing against your point of view in particular, but your thought represents the general sense of people in the face of mental illness and some even tend to call them stupid, failed, cowardly.

In the same way they tend to mention the game as guilty, guilty yes, when the guy is irresponsible, when he goes out and spends the money over and over again and continues with his life as if nothing had happened, but these people who die are sick , the trigger could be a lack of love, losing a job, I mentioned it in another thread, a person hanged himself because he missed a flight, surely it is a unique case or it does not happen very often, but if it were more of a trend, then people would think that the flights and their schedules are causing the deaths.

You have to differentiate the inveterate, irresponsible addict from the sick addict.

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Quote from: X-ray on June 05, 2023, 05:09:49 AM

It's very hard to control gambling addict. I don't even know but it seems like to me if i can assume once people being addicted in gambling and then mostly of them will be losing their mind. In most cases in my country when someone mostly of suicide cases were always related to the gambling.

Actually, for the current condition, I am quite doubtful about what is called a gambling addict in this case.
Maybe this applies to me, when indeed every time I don't want to say that I am an addict but in this case but indeed when we are often at stake and even if we don't violate the rules that have been predetermined by us such as good money management and betting just for fun or maybe just gamble when we are ready to lose money there.
Many people say it's not an addiction, but in this case I think a little because even though it's like that with the rules that we have enforced, doesn't this also include addiction, even if we don't really try to go through it. So in this case I still feel that the word "addiction" in gambling is still complex in nature, it's just that some may sound normal and some have reached the most intense stage, as happened recently where school children committed suicide due to gambling.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 04, 2023, 06:45:17 PM

It is the best thing that can be done, there is no doubt about that, you cannot risk everything that has been won because it is very obvious that everything will be lost, this has happened to many players, ambition wins them and they play a trick on them , then these types of things are what should be avoided, we are players, but we must think intelligently, above all act, winning is winning, so when you win it is best to enjoy and to do so you must at least withdraw 50 % of what has been earned, it is not bad that it can be enjoyed, because everything is seen there in your balance but it is not enjoyed, that equals nothing.

This is on point.

If you don't want to lose your money, don't do impulsive and non-calculated actions that you will just regret later on. Being greedy won't get you somewhere especially if you aren't that skilled, knowledgeable, and lucky enough to win consecutive times. Being ambitious isn't really bad because you want to achieve more and you don't want to just be complacent. However, there's a fine line between aiming your goal and being greedy. Trust me, you don't want to be greedy only to find out later on you aren't gonna taste even a centavo as a winning reward due to negligence, because I've been there.

Just like the gambling experienced I watched yesterday in an action movie by Jason Statham, though i couldn't remember the tittle but the gambler was very addicted in playing sloth in the casino house after he had earned some reasonable amount of money from doing other businesses, he went straight to the casino and begin to bet and play and wins alot to the extent that he has won $500,000 and when he was about leaving, that same thought came upon him to play te last one and remove the limit using the entire money to double it to $1,000,000 and he opt in and loose the game abd everything gone, that was a very regrettable moment of his life that he cried and got drunked feeling like killing himself. Maybe this could also serves a lesson to teach others.

not everytime gambling is going to beinift the gamblor. Sometimes its is a disaster. It sometimes kill the person. At the end everyone quits gambling for their benifits.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 04, 2023, 06:45:17 PM

It is the best thing that can be done, there is no doubt about that, you cannot risk everything that has been won because it is very obvious that everything will be lost, this has happened to many players, ambition wins them and they play a trick on them , then these types of things are what should be avoided, we are players, but we must think intelligently, above all act, winning is winning, so when you win it is best to enjoy and to do so you must at least withdraw 50 % of what has been earned, it is not bad that it can be enjoyed, because everything is seen there in your balance but it is not enjoyed, that equals nothing.

This is on point.

If you don't want to lose your money, don't do impulsive and non-calculated actions that you will just regret later on. Being greedy won't get you somewhere especially if you aren't that skilled, knowledgeable, and lucky enough to win consecutive times. Being ambitious isn't really bad because you want to achieve more and you don't want to just be complacent. However, there's a fine line between aiming your goal and being greedy. Trust me, you don't want to be greedy only to find out later on you aren't gonna taste even a centavo as a winning reward due to negligence, because I've been there.

Just like the gambling experienced I watched yesterday in an action movie by Jason Statham, though i couldn't remember the tittle but the gambler was very addicted in playing sloth in the casino house after he had earned some reasonable amount of money from doing other businesses, he went straight to the casino and begin to bet and play and wins alot to the extent that he has won $500,000 and when he was about leaving, that same thought came upon him to play te last one and remove the limit using the entire money to double it to $1,000,000 and he opt in and loose the game abd everything gone, that was a very regrettable moment of his life that he cried and got drunked feeling like killing himself. Maybe this could also serves a lesson to teach others.

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It's very hard to control gambling addict. I don't even know but it seems like to me if i can assume once people being addicted in gambling and then mostly of them will be losing their mind. In most cases in my country when someone mostly of suicide cases were always related to the gambling.

Here's the cycle.

Someone being addicted to the gambling - Running out of money to gambling with - Take loan/sell everything - he can't afford to pay loan loan that already gambled - he suicide due to the so many pressures that came to him

It looks so pathetic to think that if people are losing their mind when it came to the gambling but it seems like that they have no control over themselves since they were dealing to gamble their money.

I do believe if what they have known is about gambling is a way to multiple your money. I don't even know why it's very hard for people to take it as entertaining purpose only.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on June 04, 2023, 06:45:17 PM

It is the best thing that can be done, there is no doubt about that, you cannot risk everything that has been won because it is very obvious that everything will be lost, this has happened to many players, ambition wins them and they play a trick on them , then these types of things are what should be avoided, we are players, but we must think intelligently, above all act, winning is winning, so when you win it is best to enjoy and to do so you must at least withdraw 50 % of what has been earned, it is not bad that it can be enjoyed, because everything is seen there in your balance but it is not enjoyed, that equals nothing.

This is on point.

If you don't want to lose your money, don't do impulsive and non-calculated actions that you will just regret later on. Being greedy won't get you somewhere especially if you aren't that skilled, knowledgeable, and lucky enough to win consecutive times. Being ambitious isn't really bad because you want to achieve more and you don't want to just be complacent. However, there's a fine line between aiming your goal and being greedy. Trust me, you don't want to be greedy only to find out later on you aren't gonna taste even a centavo as a winning reward due to negligence, because I've been there.

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