The madness of gambling addicts. - page 91.

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Quote from: Doan9269 on June 13, 2023, 04:49:03 AM

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You will found out that every gambling addicted individuals will always loose control of himself and end lacking the perfect direction to how they should live or handle their personal lives, such ends up in hunger because they have no money left to feed themselves with neither do they have any quality source of income that they are serious with and giving them source of income, which means it will do much of harm than good if we are gambling addicted.

That's common in many addictions, but it's specially true in gambling, because you can lose so much money in such a short amount of time.

The thing is that it's an order of magnitude more expensive than any other addictions, because you physically cannot consume/use that much of the drug/addiction in a day, whereas with gambling you can lose all your money in a single day.

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Really sad to see people get eaten by gambling and making a lot of wrong decisions in life, Suppose it might connect to being a man taking all of their problems by themself, I mean if he tells this problem to his family I really doubt that this is still going to happen When men tend to hide their problems they just solve it by them self and starting to make wrong decisions, but if their share their problem it could help a lot and his family can easily help him solved his dept, whatever it is they are still family so they'll help each other.

Still difficult to think that people can go this far, to the point of doing something to their own granddaughter I mean I see all grandmothers and grandfathers as loving people maybe because they are already old they just think of taking care of their family because they still can.

So far I noticed a lot of people who are not able to control themselves because their desires dominate their minds more than their own logic, and that also happened to that grandfather (in the first post of the OP)

gambling addiction is one of the most dangerous things in society, I'm sure the government in every country really pays attention to this because it can be an order of social life in society, hopefully bad events like this topic only happen once in a lifetime

Most gambling addicts In my opinion absolutely have control over their own self but it is just a matter of discipline and how committed he is to changing or stopping their addiction, I don't believe that they don't have a choice and doesnt have any control, but they just let their addiction take over. I mean gambling wasn't really like drugs, cigarettes, or any kind of substance that actually affects your body making you go crazy if you doesnt have any of it, and your body just wanted this substance every day I could say that's a different story.

Yeah, we don't see a lot of this kind of story on the news or internet so their was probably some kind of mental disorder to the grandfather in my opinion, or maybe he's just way to stress to think straight anymore because of his problems. It is possible that he just doesnt have anyone to tell he's a problem so he's just keeping it to himself.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 11, 2023, 03:25:02 AM

Don't dream too much of getting big wins; only think of gambling as fun. We will not be so eager to chase that win by thinking like that and the best thing is that we can manage our money to gamble and enjoy the moment of playing gambling.

That's how it should be but many gamblers are not treating gambling as a way to entertain themselves. We all want to gain huge but gambling is not the answer to achieve that because of the high risk. If some gamblers are lucky to hit a huge jackpot, other gamblers are losing their money and some of these are desperate to accumulate funds to sustain their gambling activity just like the story in the op.

If we gamble we need to accept the result, never chase your losses and quit as early as you can. Because if you became addicted it would be hard already to stop. So keep in mind to only gamble in moderation to avoid the negative effect of gambling.

Many gamblers want to get big wins but don't understand that in gambling, we have to have luck to win. And as it turns out, many of them lose and can't recover their losses and if they keep trying, they have more chances to lose a lot of money.

And when it gets out of control, they will get angry and finally think they should continue gambling again. It will not provide good results for them but will provide more losses. We shouldn't be like that, especially if we are little gamblers or just gamblers who just want to win. We can try to find other ways to make money.

We can see from the syllable alone, that "addiction" has a negative nature. Someone who is addicted will forget the environment around him even he will forget himself. Moreover, this is related to finances, we know that today it is very difficult to get money and they spend it at the gambling table, they have no control over themselves because they are already controlled by thoughts that are uncomfortable when they are not gambling.
I personally am a gambler, it's just the difference between me and us who realize that excessive gambling will have very bad consequences and that is something extraordinary, I mean when we can control ourselves it's a difficult thing to do.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on June 11, 2023, 03:25:02 AM

Don't dream too much of getting big wins; only think of gambling as fun. We will not be so eager to chase that win by thinking like that and the best thing is that we can manage our money to gamble and enjoy the moment of playing gambling.

That's how it should be but many gamblers are not treating gambling as a way to entertain themselves. We all want to gain huge but gambling is not the answer to achieve that because of the high risk. If some gamblers are lucky to hit a huge jackpot, other gamblers are losing their money and some of these are desperate to accumulate funds to sustain their gambling activity just like the story in the op.

If we gamble we need to accept the result, never chase your losses and quit as early as you can. Because if you became addicted it would be hard already to stop. So keep in mind to only gamble in moderation to avoid the negative effect of gambling.

Many gamblers want to get big wins but don't understand that in gambling, we have to have luck to win. And as it turns out, many of them lose and can't recover their losses and if they keep trying, they have more chances to lose a lot of money.

And when it gets out of control, they will get angry and finally think they should continue gambling again. It will not provide good results for them but will provide more losses. We shouldn't be like that, especially if we are little gamblers or just gamblers who just want to win. We can try to find other ways to make money.

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Gambling addicts will stop at nothing unless the gamble to quench hunger for it temporary, gambling is one of the most addictive activity that has ever existed, people can do anything as far as gambling is concerned it is important to understand that gambling affect some persons to the extent that the can do without it.

Gambling is a really powerful addiction, and extremely expensive when it goes wrong.

The thing is that it doesn't get the same attention as other addictions like heroin, alcohol, tobacco, etc, but it's probably even worse.

You will found out that every gambling addicted individuals will always loose control of himself and end lacking the perfect direction to how they should live or handle their personal lives, such ends up in hunger because they have no money left to feed themselves with neither do they have any quality source of income that they are serious with and giving them source of income, which means it will do much of harm than good if we are gambling addicted.

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Quote from: nullama on June 11, 2023, 04:28:26 AM

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When you are so addicted you can't really control that lust of playing, some can really go beyond the usual things to the point that they either loan money, sell expensive properties or even fall to do illegal things just to fill up their desires. There are gamblers who can't resist when that desire to gamble call them they will surely do everything to proceed.

and even there's a big risk that's not matter as what they want is only thing that important, pleasing that excitement and fulfilling the needs to gamble.

Those gamblers are the best clients for the casinos, those are the ones that keep buying the ferraris and the boats to the owners of the casinos.

It's crazy to think about it but these gamblers make their money, walk to a casino, and hand them all their hard earned cash to the owners. It really is like that, but of course it's all disguised so that it feels nicer to the gambler.

Hahaha what a nice comparison, but reality wise, yes it's similar to that, those types of gamblers are hiding from that feeling of being entertained but a costly one to address the needs, they can do everything just to fillup the needs of playing. Casino owners will continue to give them decent promotional offers and additional perks just to make sure that they will keep coming back.

They'll giving it freely to the casino owners, in the sense that they might hit the jackpot and will have that chance to withdraw more when luck permits them to win.

Things that we can't deny when a person is already addicted to gambling.

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Quote from: Ebede on June 12, 2023, 05:21:02 PM

Gambling addicts will stop at nothing unless the gamble to quench hunger for it temporary, gambling is one of the most addictive activity that has ever existed, people can do anything as far as gambling is concerned it is important to understand that gambling affect some persons to the extent that the can do without it.

Gambling is a really powerful addiction, and extremely expensive when it goes wrong.

The thing is that it doesn't get the same attention as other addictions like heroin, alcohol, tobacco, etc, but it's probably even worse.

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Quote from: Ebede on June 12, 2023, 05:21:02 PM

Gambling addicts will stop at nothing unless the gamble to quench hunger for it temporary, gambling is one of the most addictive activity that has ever existed, people can do anything as far as gambling is concerned it is important to understand that gambling affect some persons to the extent that the can do without it.

It is important to not exaggerate either, gambling is as addictive as any other activity, like social media, video games, sex, food and a bunch of other activities people get addicted to, after all if you do something that feels good then you will want to keep doing it, this is something every living being goes through, the difference is that the majority knows when to stop as they have other things to do and to experiment, while some people are unable to stop and want to keep doing this pleasurable activity all the time.

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Quote from: RILWAN on June 11, 2023, 02:24:52 PM

We may call them addicts but Cassino sees them as their best clients and this is why the casino takes pleasure in giving back some form of bonus to them to encourage those players to keep playing and keep losing but on that note we need to make a plan that can keep us ahead of the casino not to keep us always coming back.

Actually, what you say it is kind of unfair to the managers of the casinos. Because they do not know the personal situation of each of their gamblers. If they have a gambler registered in their casino which wager a lot of money, they could perfectly assume it is the case of a wealthy person having some fun with money he does not actually need to live. When in reality, it is a person who is wagering the saving of his family and selling his good for the sake of his addiction.

Casinos cannot tell the difference, until the gambler declares himself as someone with a problem and goes through the process of self-exclusion. I doubt casinos would even consider to open a department or division to investigate the financial situation of their gamblers. Roll Eyes

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Gambling addicts will stop at nothing unless the gamble to quench hunger for it temporary, gambling is one of the most addictive activity that has ever existed, people can do anything as far as gambling is concerned it is important to understand that gambling affect some persons to the extent that the can do without it.

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It was a consequence for sure if you don't gamble responsively I mean this is probably a debt thing and probably the worst thing that you could do in gambling is to loan and gamble it. It might be a good start if you win but your problem will be huge if you lose your money anyway. Surely he has some mental problems kidnapping your granddaughter for gambling is not something that you're going to think of as a normal person, he's eaten by his gambling habits and it's getting out of hand.

I know a lot of gambling addicts that gamble a lot probably every day they don't care if they lose the money but it's a great thing if they win, but this kind of thing doesnt even landed on their minds once. Some just of my friends just want to get entertain and have some fun but they steal to gamble or kill anything that is against the law.

When someone gets old, they already start losing their ability to think critically or have enough understanding and control over their emotions, and on top of that if someone is addicted to gambling, that is a deadly combination and that is what this guy had, he was old and addicted to gambling, so when he needed money to gamble or maybe had to pay loans taken from somewhere, he went for something this evil.

You lose the ability to think when you are under too much tension or stress, all you keep thinking about is how you can get out of the situation that you've got yourself into, and a lot of evil thoughts come into your mind but it depends on how much control you have on your thoughts and feelings to avoid those thoughts and ideas.

Really sad to see people get eaten by gambling and making a lot of wrong decisions in life, Suppose it might connect to being a man taking all of their problems by themself, I mean if he tells this problem to his family I really doubt that this is still going to happen When men tend to hide their problems they just solve it by them self and starting to make wrong decisions, but if their share their problem it could help a lot and his family can easily help him solved his dept, whatever it is they are still family so they'll help each other.

Still difficult to think that people can go this far, to the point of doing something to their own granddaughter I mean I see all grandmothers and grandfathers as loving people maybe because they are already old they just think of taking care of their family because they still can.

People does have different level or risks tolerance
People does have difference when it comes to emotion handling
People does have difference on assessing situation
People does have difference when making use of their common sense

This is why we cant really blame them out on why they do really end up on such situation on which it do really end up on a mess just because they had chosen the wrong action which arent supposed to be done.
When dealing up with gambling then it would really be just that right that you should really be that dealing with care or awareness about addiction. Dont spend up on the money which you cant really afford to
lose because if you do then for sure you would really be ending up on having that messed up financial life which is something that we do really need to avoid as much as we could.

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Quote from: Asuspawer09 on June 12, 2023, 04:34:37 AM

Really sad to see people get eaten by gambling and making a lot of wrong decisions in life, Suppose it might connect to being a man taking all of their problems by themself, I mean if he tells this problem to his family I really doubt that this is still going to happen When men tend to hide their problems they just solve it by them self and starting to make wrong decisions, but if their share their problem it could help a lot and his family can easily help him solved his dept, whatever it is they are still family so they'll help each other.

Still difficult to think that people can go this far, to the point of doing something to their own granddaughter I mean I see all grandmothers and grandfathers as loving people maybe because they are already old they just think of taking care of their family because they still can.

So far I noticed a lot of people who are not able to control themselves because their desires dominate their minds more than their own logic, and that also happened to that grandfather (in the first post of the OP)

gambling addiction is one of the most dangerous things in society, I'm sure the government in every country really pays attention to this because it can be an order of social life in society, hopefully bad events like this topic only happen once in a lifetime

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Quote from: Asuspawer09 on June 10, 2023, 11:49:21 PM

It was a consequence for sure if you don't gamble responsively I mean this is probably a debt thing and probably the worst thing that you could do in gambling is to loan and gamble it. It might be a good start if you win but your problem will be huge if you lose your money anyway. Surely he has some mental problems kidnapping your granddaughter for gambling is not something that you're going to think of as a normal person, he's eaten by his gambling habits and it's getting out of hand.

I know a lot of gambling addicts that gamble a lot probably every day they don't care if they lose the money but it's a great thing if they win, but this kind of thing doesnt even landed on their minds once. Some just of my friends just want to get entertain and have some fun but they steal to gamble or kill anything that is against the law.

When someone gets old, they already start losing their ability to think critically or have enough understanding and control over their emotions, and on top of that if someone is addicted to gambling, that is a deadly combination and that is what this guy had, he was old and addicted to gambling, so when he needed money to gamble or maybe had to pay loans taken from somewhere, he went for something this evil.

You lose the ability to think when you are under too much tension or stress, all you keep thinking about is how you can get out of the situation that you've got yourself into, and a lot of evil thoughts come into your mind but it depends on how much control you have on your thoughts and feelings to avoid those thoughts and ideas.

Really sad to see people get eaten by gambling and making a lot of wrong decisions in life, Suppose it might connect to being a man taking all of their problems by themself, I mean if he tells this problem to his family I really doubt that this is still going to happen When men tend to hide their problems they just solve it by them self and starting to make wrong decisions, but if their share their problem it could help a lot and his family can easily help him solved his dept, whatever it is they are still family so they'll help each other.

Still difficult to think that people can go this far, to the point of doing something to their own granddaughter I mean I see all grandmothers and grandfathers as loving people maybe because they are already old they just think of taking care of their family because they still can.

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Quote from: Asuspawer09 on June 10, 2023, 11:49:21 PM

It was a consequence for sure if you don't gamble responsively I mean this is probably a debt thing and probably the worst thing that you could do in gambling is to loan and gamble it. It might be a good start if you win but your problem will be huge if you lose your money anyway. Surely he has some mental problems kidnapping your granddaughter for gambling is not something that you're going to think of as a normal person, he's eaten by his gambling habits and it's getting out of hand.

I know a lot of gambling addicts that gamble a lot probably every day they don't care if they lose the money but it's a great thing if they win, but this kind of thing doesnt even landed on their minds once. Some just of my friends just want to get entertain and have some fun but they steal to gamble or kill anything that is against the law.

When someone gets old, they already start losing their ability to think critically or have enough understanding and control over their emotions, and on top of that if someone is addicted to gambling, that is a deadly combination and that is what this guy had, he was old and addicted to gambling, so when he needed money to gamble or maybe had to pay loans taken from somewhere, he went for something this evil.

You lose the ability to think when you are under too much tension or stress, all you keep thinking about is how you can get out of the situation that you've got yourself into, and a lot of evil thoughts come into your mind but it depends on how much control you have on your thoughts and feelings to avoid those thoughts and ideas.

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People who gamble deal with gambling in different ways. But of course you start with losing and winning. When we win, the moods are usually reasonably comparable, but the problems naturally arise when a player is losing. Some cry in a corner and avoid all contact with other players. And yet other gamblers who have lost need contact to push away the gambling loss and try to forget that a financial blow has taken place. There are also several books written about it, by the way, for enthusiasts.

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Quote from: RILWAN on June 11, 2023, 02:24:52 PM

We may call them addicts but Cassino sees them as their best clients and this is why the casino takes pleasure in giving back some form of bonus to them to encourage those players to keep playing and keep losing but on that note we need to make a plan that can keep us ahead of the casino not to keep us always coming back.

that's for sure, for gambling business owners, gambling addicts are their best clients (then it will be difficult to treat gambling addicts) while those who can still control themselves will not get the attention of site owners. So if there is a gambling site that implements CSR, it is their obligation as business owners to cause other people addicted.

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Quote from: RILWAN on June 11, 2023, 02:24:52 PM

We may call them addicts but Cassino sees them as their best clients and this is why the casino takes pleasure in giving back some form of bonus to them to encourage those players to keep playing and keep losing but on that note we need to make a plan that can keep us ahead of the casino not to keep us always coming back.

The casinos are not that bad as you describe them here,sure they for casinos are great clients and players but the reputable casinos offer the option of self exclusion for 1 day,1 week,1 month,1 year and forever thus giving the opportunity to everyone who has only 1% desire to stop gambling to be able to do it.The bonuses from the casinos are great as they will not let a player when doing self exclusion going after another casino as he will have to start over and build up his tiers/VIP levels which entitle him to bonuses like in the casino he has excluded himself from.

As long as there is desire to stop gambling from the gambler himself there are a lot of tools at his disposal.

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We may call them addicts but Cassino sees them as their best clients and this is why the casino takes pleasure in giving back some form of bonus to them to encourage those players to keep playing and keep losing but on that note we need to make a plan that can keep us ahead of the casino not to keep us always coming back.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on June 11, 2023, 05:32:20 AM

Quote from: Theones on June 10, 2023, 06:55:13 PM

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Gambling should not be the engine to bringing your dream lifestyle to life, don't even try to hope or dream that gambling will get you there, you will find yourself in a place you won't like in the end, if you want gamble, and have your humble self in good shape, do not wish you can make any big money through gambling.

The addiction of gambling starts when people hope for big lifestyle through gambling, planning to get rich or become financially freedom with gambling is the start of your destruction, the chances of this ever happening is slim.

Indeed, your perspective on gambling's destructive potential is quite poignant. Gambling addiction is a serious issue, underscored by trending tags like #GamblingIsNoJoke. The promise of instant wealth can easily ensnare those who lack financial discipline or a comprehensive understanding of probability.

However, gambling in itself isn't inherently harmful. It's the expectation of it as a conduit to swift wealth that's perilous. Responsible gambling, as a form of recreation rather than an investment strategy, is perfectly acceptable.

As you've aptly put, dreaming bigger than our fears and letting our actions speak louder than our words should be the guiding principles in our lives. Let's channel our energies into achieving tangible goals and fostering financial literacy for long-term prosperity.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on May 28, 2023, 03:37:13 PM

I don't think you can control emotions if you have lost a lot of money gambling. You have to imagine that you have lost all your savings and then you can imagine that you are very angry and sad about that? they are not only emotions of anger but also of loss and grief. Those are things that are very normal. Not everyone gets aggressive and angry after losing a lot of money. Some people only end up in a negative spiral and suffer from considerable depression.

What happens is that when those limits are reached, things can get out of control, or well, they already got out of control and returning to normality is not easy because things are here when damage has already advanced a lot and it is necessary. attention, but very special attention, of course we all have things like the tools to get out of an addiction quickly, but not everyone has the same willpower, which is what I think is needed for it, However, we can say that everything here depends on who can make the difference.

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