The madness of gambling addicts. - page 95.

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Quote from: Doan9269 on May 31, 2023, 03:31:35 AM

If a gambler seems to present himself the way he was being an addicted gambler and feels comfortable or that nothing is wrong with that, then there will be situations coming ahead over time that will lead to the frustration he never expect coming, by then it would have been an inevitable consequence on addition, that is why we have to treat addiction before it goes beyond the normal control that we may not be able to handle later in future, most addicts are also drugs addict base on some people's believe according to the research they have conducted.

There are really consequences on our actions. Hence, we must do our very best to be responsible for every of it because we just reap what we sow. If you don't have limitations and let yourself be addicted in gambling, then nonchalantly disregard all of your other duties, the time will come you will suffer the negative effects of it and you will not like it. You have no other options but to face it eventually because running from problems won't really solve it. You're just going to delay the outcomes, but you can't avoid it forever.

Regarding being a drug abuser at the same time, I don't think it fits every time because some addicts aren't really dependent on drugs for dopamine. They have this some kind of cheap thrills from being able to play consecutively and perhaps excessively. So, I think it's not good for us to assume nor to generalized without really backing it up with legitimate references and citations of studies, since addiction is a sensitive topic as well.

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Quote from: Cryptock on May 31, 2023, 01:57:07 AM

]My muslim friend believe gambling is a sin because it forces us to get money by hook or by crook. When you are in stress and financal in trouble you dont see good way or bad way to full fill your need.
So if you are in finincal stress dont gamble because you think that you will get rich that is not correct

When related to religion, gambling is considered a sin and if they are devout believers, they will never approach gambling and other things their religion prohibits.

And it is true that if we are experiencing financial difficulties, we should look for other ways to help make money. Playing gambling at that time will only add to the burden and deeper frustration, especially if we experience a lot of losses. It is better to prevent gambling addiction than cure it because it is not easy. And we have to think about the risks of playing gambling.

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If a gambler seems to present himself the way he was being an addicted gambler and feels comfortable or that nothing is wrong with that, then there will be situations coming ahead over time that will lead to the frustration he never expect coming, by then it would have been an inevitable consequence on addition, that is why we have to treat addiction before it goes beyond the normal control that we may not be able to handle later in future, most addicts are also drugs addict base on some people's believe according to the research they have conducted.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on May 28, 2023, 03:37:13 PM

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I want to believe that the case brought to us here is extremely rare: a grandfather who kidnapped his own granddaughter to be able to continue gambling. But, uncommon cases apart, I think that we all should reflect a little bit before starting gambling, like how much money and time do we want to spend doing that, or one's psychological state and environment.

Because the experience is not the same for someone who has financial freedom and a beatutiful family as for someone who is depressed and desperately looking for an escape route.

I think cases like this are very rare indeed, especially if the grandfather who kidnaps is his own grandson. there are various sides that we can see from this incident, it could even be that the grandfather just pretended to be pitied by his son to give money. but what is certain, we can only examine this case from the sources provided by the OP. I think to find out more, we must have more detailed information. unfortunately, this case is not ours. so, we can only assume and gain wisdom from the case.

Regarding what you say in this post, it should keep our minds awake and sane. contemplating is something that is very necessary, even we can correct what we have been through. without exception, involving him from gambling activities. we agree, how much time we spend, and how the circumstances that make someone do things beyond their common sense affect their psychology. in essence, back to ourselves and how we define gambling. because it's important to me. at least, I have an alarm that limits us from getting out of control or limiting us to excessive activities.

]My muslim friend believe gambling is a sin because it forces us to get money by hook or by crook. When you are in stress and financal in trouble you dont see good way or bad way to full fill your need.
So if you are in finincal stress dont gamble because you think that you will get rich that is not correct

that is a religious belief mate and we cannot conquer that , let them have their beliefs and let us have our gambling activities .
respect our differences and yes I also have plenty of Muslim friends and they are not playing with us but at least they enjoy with me and our friends sometimes when playing online .

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on May 30, 2023, 02:34:07 PM

Quote from: Porfirii on May 29, 2023, 04:59:21 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on May 28, 2023, 10:48:44 PM

Quote from: Zackgeno96 on May 28, 2023, 03:37:13 PM

~snip~

I want to believe that the case brought to us here is extremely rare: a grandfather who kidnapped his own granddaughter to be able to continue gambling. But, uncommon cases apart, I think that we all should reflect a little bit before starting gambling, like how much money and time do we want to spend doing that, or one's psychological state and environment.

Because the experience is not the same for someone who has financial freedom and a beatutiful family as for someone who is depressed and desperately looking for an escape route.

I think cases like this are very rare indeed, especially if the grandfather who kidnaps is his own grandson. there are various sides that we can see from this incident, it could even be that the grandfather just pretended to be pitied by his son to give money. but what is certain, we can only examine this case from the sources provided by the OP. I think to find out more, we must have more detailed information. unfortunately, this case is not ours. so, we can only assume and gain wisdom from the case.

Regarding what you say in this post, it should keep our minds awake and sane. contemplating is something that is very necessary, even we can correct what we have been through. without exception, involving him from gambling activities. we agree, how much time we spend, and how the circumstances that make someone do things beyond their common sense affect their psychology. in essence, back to ourselves and how we define gambling. because it's important to me. at least, I have an alarm that limits us from getting out of control or limiting us to excessive activities.

]My muslim friend believe gambling is a sin because it forces us to get money by hook or by crook. When you are in stress and financal in trouble you dont see good way or bad way to full fill your need.
So if you are in finincal stress dont gamble because you think that you will get rich that is not correct

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Quote from: Porfirii on May 29, 2023, 04:59:21 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on May 28, 2023, 10:48:44 PM

Quote from: Zackgeno96 on May 28, 2023, 03:37:13 PM

~snip~

I want to believe that the case brought to us here is extremely rare: a grandfather who kidnapped his own granddaughter to be able to continue gambling. But, uncommon cases apart, I think that we all should reflect a little bit before starting gambling, like how much money and time do we want to spend doing that, or one's psychological state and environment.

Because the experience is not the same for someone who has financial freedom and a beatutiful family as for someone who is depressed and desperately looking for an escape route.

I think cases like this are very rare indeed, especially if the grandfather who kidnaps is his own grandson. there are various sides that we can see from this incident, it could even be that the grandfather just pretended to be pitied by his son to give money. but what is certain, we can only examine this case from the sources provided by the OP. I think to find out more, we must have more detailed information. unfortunately, this case is not ours. so, we can only assume and gain wisdom from the case.

Regarding what you say in this post, it should keep our minds awake and sane. contemplating is something that is very necessary, even we can correct what we have been through. without exception, involving him from gambling activities. we agree, how much time we spend, and how the circumstances that make someone do things beyond their common sense affect their psychology. in essence, back to ourselves and how we define gambling. because it's important to me. at least, I have an alarm that limits us from getting out of control or limiting us to excessive activities.

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Quote from: naira on May 30, 2023, 08:57:43 AM

Quote from: Porfirii on May 30, 2023, 05:49:08 AM

It is surprising how not only different religions, but different countries also, have such different impressions about gambling. For some, gambling/betting is a normal activity, it is advertised everywhere, and nothing happens, while for others it is a sin and/or a reason to end up in jail.

Even within the same religion (I'm also a Christian), different points of view are our daily bread.

I sincerely believe that we should all respect each other, regardless of our religion or ideology, and neither criticize nor force anyone to do something they do not want to do. And, if eventually someone needs help, give it to him.

I'm sure every religion teaches good things and instructs to stay away from despicable actions, I'm 100% sure of that even including gambling even though with the big title gambling is prohibited. But whatever the reason, we are only human, apart from being sinners, we also have control over every decision, good or bad, that person has acknowledged it and accepted the consequences of every choice in his life.

That's what I know, by talking about a religion cannot fully make that person feel conscious. Only you can control your emotions. Not only gambling, because emotions are always involved all the time.

Yeah right, it's still you that will decide to whatever action you take. Gambling is your sole responsibility for how restricted you are or whatever things that may affect your gambling activities. It's still you who will decide in what direction you will take. It's your responsibility at all cause your decision will state every action that you will going to take.

Not going to go with religion or other culture, but I will stay with your own decision making and whatever action that you pick regarding to your gambling participation.

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Quote from: Porfirii on May 29, 2023, 04:59:21 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on May 28, 2023, 10:48:44 PM

It's very hard to control emotions because of losing money, not just gambling. But that's what happens when we gamble without good self-control. Sadness will come to us but we still have the opportunity not to be too sad anymore by reducing gambling activities so we can still have money. Everyone will react differently when they lose money from gambling, but everyone will be sad. And the difference is that some may consider it a risk from playing gambling but some consider it nothing because they don't really think about losing money at the gambling table.

I want to believe that the case brought to us here is extremely rare: a grandfather who kidnapped his own granddaughter to be able to continue gambling. But, uncommon cases apart, I think that we all should reflect a little bit before starting gambling, like how much money and time do we want to spend doing that, or one's psychological state and environment.

Because the experience is not the same for someone who has financial freedom and a beatutiful family as for someone who is depressed and desperately looking for an escape route.

That's where responsibilities and discipline kick in, someone who understands that they are obliged to take care of the beautiful family that they have will never attempt to gamble and even if they do, they will always know their limits of both time and funds so that they have enough left from both of these things for their family as they need it the most.

As for someone who has no responsibilities, it is up to them how they want to spend their money, but even such people should be careful so that they don't get addicted as it can turn their life upside down if not taken care of.

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Quote from: Porfirii on May 30, 2023, 05:49:08 AM

It is surprising how not only different religions, but different countries also, have such different impressions about gambling. For some, gambling/betting is a normal activity, it is advertised everywhere, and nothing happens, while for others it is a sin and/or a reason to end up in jail.

Even within the same religion (I'm also a Christian), different points of view are our daily bread.

I sincerely believe that we should all respect each other, regardless of our religion or ideology, and neither criticize nor force anyone to do something they do not want to do. And, if eventually someone needs help, give it to him.

I'm sure every religion teaches good things and instructs to stay away from despicable actions, I'm 100% sure of that even including gambling even though with the big title gambling is prohibited. But whatever the reason, we are only human, apart from being sinners, we also have control over every decision, good or bad, that person has acknowledged it and accepted the consequences of every choice in his life.

That's what I know, by talking about a religion cannot fully make that person feel conscious. Only you can control your emotions. Not only gambling, because emotions are always involved all the time.

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Quote from: Zackgeno96 on May 28, 2023, 03:37:13 PM

I don't think you can control emotions if you have lost a lot of money gambling. You have to imagine that you have lost all your savings and then you can imagine that you are very angry and sad about that? they are not only emotions of anger but also of loss and grief. Those are things that are very normal. Not everyone gets aggressive and angry after losing a lot of money. Some people only end up in a negative spiral and suffer from considerable depression.

It's very hard to control emotions because of losing money, not just gambling. But that's what happens when we gamble without good self-control. Sadness will come to us but we still have the opportunity not to be too sad anymore by reducing gambling activities so we can still have money. Everyone will react differently when they lose money from gambling, but everyone will be sad. And the difference is that some may consider it a risk from playing gambling but some consider it nothing because they don't really think about losing money at the gambling table.

Those who sit at the gambling table and do not think about losing money they are gambler. Because they know there will be win or loss. Those who are afraid to take risks they are not perfect not only for gambling but also others risky investment platform.
Here we need to understand addiction. A gambler's loss seems normal to me, but I must call gambling for more money an addiction that diverts a gambler from his track. When a gambler gambles normally he can survive through wins and losses which is never possible with an addicted gambler.

Some gamblers think that playing gambling is just for fun and they don't need to spend much money because they know it will hurt them. And people like that don't always spend a lot of money because they are too afraid to risk losing their money. Losing money gambling is very painful and we can prevent it so that the loss of money is not too big. And those who gamble should realize that defeats can come more often than wins, so that is why some gamblers always limit the amount of money they have.

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Quote from: Dimitri94 on May 30, 2023, 06:56:35 AM

Those who sit at the gambling table and do not think about losing money they are gambler. Because they know there will be win or loss. Those who are afraid to take risks they are not perfect not only for gambling but also others risky investment platform.
Here we need to understand addiction. A gambler's loss seems normal to me, but I must call gambling for more money an addiction that diverts a gambler from his track. When a gambler gambles normally he can survive through wins and losses which is never possible with an addicted gambler.

Addiction is one of the most harmful aspects of gambling, bet it shouldn't be experience, and I would rather stick to my losses than be anxious for additional earnings. Gambling is never a legitimate way; it does not promise that one will continue to make streak profits on a regular basis; some days, one may experience huge losses, which may lead to serious problems such as indebtedness. Gambling can be viewed from various perspectives; some regard it as a source of revenue, while others consider it as a way to make additional money for their wants.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on May 30, 2023, 02:09:21 AM

If you are into gambling and you are a Christian, you have no religion, it makes sense that God doesn't like gambling, because it's the fastest path to destruction and it's also the destroyer of faith. Think and you will understand.

I agree with your statement and not only in Christianity but also some other religions have restrictions on gambling because a gambling addict can indeed be destroyed in their faith, life and beliefs, they will no longer want to obey the orders and prohibitions of a religion.
But what happens a lot is that gambling addicts forget their religion and are more concerned with gambling, this is why gambling is an activity that is banned a lot.
Even though it is true that gambling is a choice, if it has a bad impact then gamblers should be able to react more to it and provide limits so that they are not affected by some of these negative impacts.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on May 28, 2023, 10:48:44 PM

Quote from: Zackgeno96 on May 28, 2023, 03:37:13 PM

I don't think you can control emotions if you have lost a lot of money gambling. You have to imagine that you have lost all your savings and then you can imagine that you are very angry and sad about that? they are not only emotions of anger but also of loss and grief. Those are things that are very normal. Not everyone gets aggressive and angry after losing a lot of money. Some people only end up in a negative spiral and suffer from considerable depression.

It's very hard to control emotions because of losing money, not just gambling. But that's what happens when we gamble without good self-control. Sadness will come to us but we still have the opportunity not to be too sad anymore by reducing gambling activities so we can still have money. Everyone will react differently when they lose money from gambling, but everyone will be sad. And the difference is that some may consider it a risk from playing gambling but some consider it nothing because they don't really think about losing money at the gambling table.

Those who sit at the gambling table and do not think about losing money they are gambler. Because they know there will be win or loss. Those who are afraid to take risks they are not perfect not only for gambling but also others risky investment platform.
Here we need to understand addiction. A gambler's loss seems normal to me, but I must call gambling for more money an addiction that diverts a gambler from his track. When a gambler gambles normally he can survive through wins and losses which is never possible with an addicted gambler.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on May 30, 2023, 02:09:21 AM

If you are into gambling and you are a Christian, you have no religion, it makes sense that God doesn't like gambling, because it's the fastest path to destruction and it's also the destroyer of faith. Think and you will understand.

Maybe this could actually be one of the most reasons why some religious beliefs kicked against gambling because if addictions set i it will be difficult for the gambler to maintain his integrity and reputation in the family and the society he lives in because he's addicted to gambling.

It is surprising how not only different religions, but different countries also, have such different impressions about gambling. For some, gambling/betting is a normal activity, it is advertised everywhere, and nothing happens, while for others it is a sin and/or a reason to end up in jail.

Even within the same religion (I'm also a Christian), different points of view are our daily bread.

I sincerely believe that we should all respect each other, regardless of our religion or ideology, and neither criticize nor force anyone to do something they do not want to do. And, if eventually someone needs help, give it to him.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on May 30, 2023, 02:09:21 AM

The hardest thing to control as a gambler is emotions, when I sit down and I think about my past gambling experience, I noticed that my emotions got the best of me, most of the money that I have lost happened because of my emotion, I was unable to control it.

Yes and that's the truth, we cannot change ourselves completely then how possible are we to effect that same change on others, change is a constant variable in life that everyone must go through but the most difficult kind of change is on addiction, but if being determined from the person's mind to change then it may come in very easy.

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on May 30, 2023, 02:09:21 AM

To say the truth, there is no way to control your emotion, not until you set some rules for yourself and at times it is even hard to keep those rules in check but if you can stick to your rules you will be able to avoid some nasty mistakes

Setting rules aren't still enough in battling addiction because you're the one that set the rules and can still break the rules except if the addicted person was being contided within a particular environment whereby he cannot even have the means to break or go against the rules.

Quote from: Crypt0Gore on May 30, 2023, 02:09:21 AM

If you are into gambling and you are a Christian, you have no religion, it makes sense that God doesn't like gambling, because it's the fastest path to destruction and it's also the destroyer of faith. Think and you will understand.

Maybe this could actually be one of the most reasons why some religious beliefs kicked against gambling because if addictions set i it will be difficult for the gambler to maintain his integrity and reputation in the family and the society he lives in because he's addicted to gambling.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on May 30, 2023, 02:09:21 AM

The hardest thing to control as a gambler is emotions, when I sit down and I think about my past gambling experience, I noticed that my emotions got the best of me, most of the money that I have lost happened because of my emotion, I was unable to control it.

To say the truth, there is no way to control your emotion, not until you set some rules for yourself and at times it is even hard to keep those rules in check but if you can stick to your rules you will be able to avoid some nasty mistakes.

There is no way anyone can control their emotions when gambling, but setting some rules of gambling for yourself will put you ahead of your emotions, because you have to keep your rules alive and stick to it.

If you are into gambling and you are a Christian, you have no religion, it makes sense that God doesn't like gambling, because it's the fastest path to destruction and it's also the destroyer of faith. Think and you will understand.

This is true everywhere, there are many instances in which if you really think about how you handled a particular situation you will immediately think about several ways in which you could have done it better, but doing so at the time is very difficult, as at that moment you are dealing with a great deal of pressure and it simply did not occurred to you how to handle things in a different way, however even if it is difficult the more effort you put into this the better decisions you will take under pressure, until they become second nature to you.

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The hardest thing to control as a gambler is emotions, when I sit down and I think about my past gambling experience, I noticed that my emotions got the best of me, most of the money that I have lost happened because of my emotion, I was unable to control it.

To say the truth, there is no way to control your emotion, not until you set some rules for yourself and at times it is even hard to keep those rules in check but if you can stick to your rules you will be able to avoid some nasty mistakes.

There is no way anyone can control their emotions when gambling, but setting some rules of gambling for yourself will put you ahead of your emotions, because you have to keep your rules alive and stick to it.

If you are into gambling and you are a Christian, you have no religion, it makes sense that God doesn't like gambling, because it's the fastest path to destruction and it's also the destroyer of faith. Think and you will understand.

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Quote from: nullama on May 29, 2023, 06:10:30 PM

Quote from: Cryptock on May 29, 2023, 04:17:37 AM

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Any addiction is bad and excess of everything is bad. be it gambling or drinking or any thing. Has anyone read about seven deadly sin one of them is lust - lust of anything is bad even if it is lust of knowledge.
So one should not cross the red line!

True.

That's basically what religions teach you, how to live a good life.

It's not about what happens when you die, it's about the rest of your life here. Will you live in paradise(good life) or hell(bad life)? do these things(virtues) and don't do these things(sins).

People get caught up in the message, when in reality it's quite useful.

We do have different religions in the world which we cant hear off those 7 mortal sins or whatsoever on other religions but this is mostly be known on Christian about this major sins which a certain man
should really avoid but since we are just humans then mistakes are common but its not something that we should really tolerate or proceed on even if we do know that this is something that could bring
out harm into our lives. Gambling addiction is pertaining about greed on which this is for the love of money and if you are a type of person who does tolerate greed then you would
likely fall into the pit of such addiction because of too much greed.

On the time that you would really go opt into those criminal acts or plans then this is where next sins would be mold up and this is why we should really be careful on what we
are dealing with and it should really be that in moderation.

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Quote from: Cryptock on May 29, 2023, 04:17:37 AM

~snip~
Any addiction is bad and excess of everything is bad. be it gambling or drinking or any thing. Has anyone read about seven deadly sin one of them is lust - lust of anything is bad even if it is lust of knowledge.
So one should not cross the red line!

True.

That's basically what religions teach you, how to live a good life.

It's not about what happens when you die, it's about the rest of your life here. Will you live in paradise(good life) or hell(bad life)? do these things(virtues) and don't do these things(sins).

People get caught up in the message, when in reality it's quite useful.

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Quote from: Cryptock on May 29, 2023, 04:17:37 AM

Any addiction is bad and excess of everything is bad. be it gambling or drinking or any thing. Has anyone read about seven deadly sin one of them is lust - lust of anything is bad even if it is lust of knowledge.
So one should not cross the red line!

A red line or a boundary is something that should not be crossed, if someone does it then he will experience bad effects. About the deadly sin, I don't know it and certainly, everyone already knows the risks, whether it's a sin or not is the responsibility of each. Playing or doing something should be reasonable, it should not be excessive and too optimistic about something. Gambling is entertainment, don't let it become a disaster center that will destroy someone's life.

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