Topic: The Pharmacist,actmyname,Vod.. The mafia trying to get controll of bitcointalk ? - page 3. (Read 2836 times)

I thought you left:

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I am very well aware of that; I'm just showing what liberalists might try to counter with.

Welp, looks like since I'm out of DT now it will be either The Pharmacist/marlboroza the witch (evil wizard?) depending on which one tagged the user.

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Where is nullius when you need it?

Let me close it this way, "you are always right, everybody else is always wrong, the same hypocrisy that is going on in this forum from quite some time". My point was to show why the trust system has flaws, it was shown, let's leave it like this. You by the way are living proof of this marl 

That wasn't my intention.

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Pick one randomly.

Their contributions are completely separate; don't compare apples to oranges. Minerjones is the crypto-god of collectibles.

You are not a victim of anything.

 

It just shows how stubborn and bad person you are, even when I have shown evident proof that I have abandoned all the accounts involved from a lot of time you still insist on leaving the rating on.
I can do it all day with you, there are dozens wrong feedback you have given to people, I just wanted to show that unfortunately you are one of the DT members who do not get back your feedback even when the other users proves you that he is not into these kind of things anymore and shows really good behaviour.

As for minerjones, please do not compare yourself with him, if I were to compare you two, you would be the "noob of the forum" against the "veteran". His contribution is much better than yours, nothing changes it, quote every possible feedback if you want. This is my last sentence here and since I am being a victim of trust abuse by you, there is no point in me not using Cereberus or any other account that I own now, even DT members have multi accounts which are both enrolled in different signatures, I can do that also. I see no use of it. I can join altcoin bounties or even signatures who accept negative rated members.

Yes sir, because you are part of D mafia and are wrong. I am right; btw. what country are you in? Need to contact police.

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Is what the standard response seems to be once someone gets busted nowadays. Back to a normal-cat-being response: Good job objectively disproving his (somewhat obviously false) claims. However, someone might accuse you of cherry-picking.
I do wonder exactly how many such cases are though.

As I sad, you are unable to read references.





Someone escrowed funds between user A and B, and someone else found out that user is not trustworthy.

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I can do this whole day with you:







Do you want to talk about other feedback? Pick one randomly

You are not understanding, minerjones ratings are much more relevant and evident and on point compared to marlboroza, they also in the majority of the times have verified references which are still active to today time compared to the other one, that is my point. Hope it is clear now.

That has nothing to do with this:

These are two, completely separate things that have nothing to do with each other. You can be more trusted, but leave bad feedback. You can be neutral/untrusted but leave good feedback.

I was a noob back then in 2016 and didn't know who was selling the accounts, anyway there is enough proof for those who want to see it. I have abandoned all the accounts since February 2018 and that is why I say your rating is not valid anymore. I can continue with them if I wished for, they have negative but one of them is Legendary and as far as I know I can join a lot of altcoin bounties with a negative, I didn't do it for the specific reason I am trying to prove, I own only this account from February 2018, anyone can see that. All other accusations against me are BULLSHIT in capital letters yes.

Don't get mad just because I point out the truth as I said do not want to engage in further discussion.

@lauda, I don't care what feedback marlboroza gives me, my comparison would still stand, a person who have done lots of trades and has passed more time in the forum contributing to it in a better way than marlboroza does, is still more trusted in my opinion.

Can you address this:


And this:

take a look https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/whats-more-important-to-judge-whether-or-not-i-should-be-trusted-5037540

Because you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and are very naive. I know minerjones very well, marlboroza not at all[1]. While you can come to the irrational conclusion that ratings from minerjones are better, and live in that delusion (since it is a choice), it is objectively false.  Heck, some of these people don't even properly understand how it even works.

That's exactly why. If you gave him a positive rating, he'd trust your ratings more than most others'. They're that kind of user.

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[1] These are just names that are used as an example; there's nothing special about this case. The same applies for most people solely involved in trading (with little-to no involvement elsewhere) when you compare their ratings to those of someone who actively reviews and handles reputation issues. The latter group is also much more likely to frequently review their sent ratings, and avoid potential issues down the road (e.g. inactive account hacked).

Few days later....
Oh, few days later was 2 months later. Have you been living on Mars? Time doesn't work there like it works on Earth? Few days =/= 2 months.

Few days later you say?  

Why is this bothering you? You have solid connection to well known scammer, and yet you didn't provide single solid proof to beat this.

People who don't know to read reference usually make such stupid conclusions. Trust system isn't trade system, as lauda pointed.

Btw, why have you changed your fake retaliation negative to false positive and then removed it?

Oh, sharing PM's I see?

What does this bold part mean?

Why don't you share everything, since you obviously like to share PM's which doesn't make much sense without further investigation?

How about this:
Have you traded with half of forum yet?

How about to fuck off and stop mentioning my name from time to time in specific topics?

While you maybe right about the trades, honestly I trust much more a rating from "minerjones" than I do from "marlboroza", just sayin. So probably I also think that a person like minerjones who has had a lot more time spent in the forum and done so many deals through this time it is much more trusted than a person who sent a message to me (that I don't do what I do for a signature campaign) meaning of the message in brackets, you find real one below and a few days later ,strangely joined Chipmixer  
Also why should I trust more a person who almost had never any trade with anyone here compared to one who have had a lot of them like in the case of the 2 persons mentioned above.
Yeah the trust system has many flaws into it. Just pointing them out and do not want to engage in further discussion.
That while in the message ended very early  

Anyone with an ounce of intelligence would know that actually asking to be included on DT is a big no-no. Just like it is with asking to become a staff member. It's too obvious and the wrong way to go about it and if it was a simple as just asking then everyone would do it, and the majority would probably be doing it for entirely the wrong reasons and crave that power for whatever reason or benefits it has. As with default trust, put in the work and if someone thinks you're doing a good job they'll likely include you eventually. That's how it's meant to work. Earn your right to be on there by showing you can use it efficiently and accurately. It works pretty well in most cases, and I'm sure you were fine with it and had no complaints right up until it turned on you, but when it does those people think it's a broken system and complain the most. Again, I'm not saying it's perfect but usually works well the vast majority of times.


It wouldn't surprise me at all if you already had another account on DT back then or still even do now. You know how to work the system and it's not terribly difficult to get onto if you stick at it enough and leave accurate ratings.


Well that's something you can easily and conveniently say now and all we have is your word for it, but again, anyone with an ounce of intelligence wouldn't offer to start escrowing straight away and build up confidence slowly and over time, but most escrowers naturally fall into it due to being asked repeatedly and I think that's how it should be.


I disagree. You don't have to be involved with trading to want to maintain a healthy environment. That's like saying people who don't drive don't want or care about speed limits or safety systems put in place to protect everyone. It's not always about the money to be made from trading either. Some people just don't want a scam-rife marketplace and want to do the right thing. There is also a lot to lose. If you leave inaccurate ratings then you can either be removed from default trust or get negative yourself if you abuse the system and that can cause loss of earnings from signature campaigns etc. Being on DT is probably more hassle than it's worth, especially when you use it to try prevent scams because all it does it cause you headaches via the abuse and hassle you get.  



Again, I would disagree. Someone can be very good at preventing scams without having much trades here. Also, most people probably do have some trading history, but I don't think we should be exclusively looking for people who have done hundreds of trades before they can be considered for inclusion. Those people will get on there also, but there needs to be a mix. A system full of people just patting each other on the back and giving themselves positive feedback for trades isn't much good either, especially if they care little about trades or scams that don't involve them.  

It doesn't seem like you've ever opened a psychology book in your life. That assessment is completely backwards.

Nope, not really. Sounds more like a normie trying to force a meme to me.

It is too bad that I never asked to be put on anyone's trust list, I resisted people who were suggesting that I ask to be put back on after I was removed the 1st time, and resisted requests from multiple people to create alts to be added to their DT1 trust list. It is also too bad that I initially resisted escrowing any transactions when I first started receiving requests to do so, and did not open an escrow thread until I completed dozens of escrow transactions resulting from unsolicited requests from others to me.



That is the problem. Those who lack trading experience lack the incentives to maintain a healthy marketplace, and have nothing to lose when they handle a rating unfairly, or unprofessionally. One could argue there is not even any basis to say they have or can leave accurate ratings.

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One thing I have noticed is several instances in which negative ratings have been left for things that was very likely to be not nefarious behavior who attempt to dispute their loss of reputation only to be met with trolling and a refusal to discuss the underlying merits of the rating, and these people essentially rage quit by starting to troll and make transparent scam attempts they likely would not have made if their reputation had been intact.