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Topic: The Pharmacist,actmyname,Vod.. The mafia trying to get controll of bitcointalk ? - page 5. (Read 2836 times)

legendary
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I would even add that power hungry members shotgunning negative feedback couldn't care less about who they chase away from the community (not saying the members listed on this thread topic are doing that)

And I would say it's even easier to criticize members who are actually doing something about the scamming and spamming that's rampant on the forum--a forum where scamming and account sales aren't even disallowed, I might add.  

I'm sure you weren't referring to me in the part I've bolded above, since I have nothing to do with ICOs and don't have alts in campaigns.  It'd be nice if you would actually accuse whoever it is you're talking about by name instead of being nebulous.  

Some of us actually are trying to help the forum.  None of what I do is a perfect solution, but if you've got a better one you should put your money where your mouth is and share it with the community.  Some potential customers for you and TECSHARE might get scared away, but that amount is trivial compared to how many spammers, scammers, and shitbags join bitcointalk daily.  

I literally said in the quoted post it wasn’t about you. Is helping the forum only what you think is the best way to police others?

You are now making the OP’s argument as anyone who shares a differing opinion is regarded as clueless. That wasn’t my intent and I apologize. I’ll politely leave the discussion now as I don’t want to have someone continue to insinuate I haven’t done massive amounts of good for this forum and it’s members over the last 7 years and continue to do so.

You want to help, lead by example.
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so long as there is less competition for their nefarious activities (fake ICOs, signature campaigns full of their alts, etc.) and they can pretend they're being helpful.
I am interested in bold part. It sounds like some DT member(I suppose this thread is about DT members) is running fake ICO and/or signature campaign for fake ICO and it is full of alt accounts of particular member.

Which member is tagging people because of competition and at the same time is running or participating in signature campaign which is full of their alt accounts?
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I would even add that power hungry members shotgunning negative feedback couldn't care less about who they chase away from the community (not saying the members listed on this thread topic are doing that)

And I would say it's even easier to criticize members who are actually doing something about the scamming and spamming that's rampant on the forum--a forum where scamming and account sales aren't even disallowed, I might add.  

I'm sure you weren't referring to me in the part I've bolded above, since I have nothing to do with ICOs and don't have alts in campaigns.  It'd be nice if you would actually accuse whoever it is you're talking about by name instead of being nebulous.  

Some of us actually are trying to help the forum.  None of what I do is a perfect solution, but if you've got a better one you should put your money where your mouth is and share it with the community.  Some potential customers for you and TECSHARE might get scared away, but that amount is trivial compared to how many spammers, scammers, and shitbags join bitcointalk daily.  

I literally said in the quoted post it wasn’t about you. Is helping the forum only what you think is the best way to police others?

You are now making the OP’s argument as anyone who shares a differing opinion is regarded as clueless. That wasn’t my intent and I apologize. I’ll politely leave the discussion now as I don’t want to have someone continue to insinuate I haven’t done massive amounts of good for this forum and it’s members over the last 7 years and continue to do so. Pretty typical that anyone who supports users who speak out against injustice is made a target to switch the focus through a bully fest in an attempt to find a reason to discredit that person.  I don't feel like playing today guys.  I'm sorry.

You want to help, lead by example.
legendary
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I forgot more than you will ever know.

Yes, OP got confused and lost somewhere on the Autobahn. Grin

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legendary
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I could see this just being an honest mistake.
I completely agree with you. This really IS honest mistake.
TECSHARE clearly has no clue what he is talking about here, thus his input on the matter can be safely ignored. OP is a good case-example of someone on the other end of the scale, opposite of "honest mistake".

As long as they benefiting the community by tagging scammers and abusers, why you complain? We don't have the official police anyway (and usually the official body will abuse you more).
You actually need (certain) strong incentives unless you want inactive, semi-useless DT members (which most nowadays are). However, some people are more than satisfied with investing countless, thankless hours just for the common good (you can easily figure out who some of these are; hint: read title). Truly bad people, those which are rotten to their core (as is the case of OP) would rather have nobody benefit from anything (and let a countless number of people get hurt along the way) if they can't be on the benefiting end of the scale.


German word for highway Huh
I guess you confuse this with Autobahn Cheesy
Yes, OP got confused and lost somewhere on the Autobahn. Grin
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I would even add that power hungry members shotgunning negative feedback couldn't care less about who they chase away from the community (not saying the members listed on this thread topic are doing that), so long as there is less competition for their nefarious activities (fake ICOs, signature campaigns full of their alts, etc.) and they can pretend they're being helpful.
And I would say it's even easier to criticize members who are actually doing something about the scamming and spamming that's rampant on the forum--a forum where scamming and account sales aren't even disallowed, I might add. 

I'm sure you weren't referring to me in the part I've bolded above, since I have nothing to do with ICOs and don't have alts in campaigns.  It'd be nice if you would actually accuse whoever it is you're talking about by name instead of being nebulous. 

Some of us actually are trying to help the forum.  None of what I do is a perfect solution, but if you've got a better one you should put your money where your mouth is and share it with the community.  Some potential customers for you and TECSHARE might get scared away, but that amount is trivial compared to how many spammers, scammers, and shitbags join bitcointalk daily. 
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In my opinion, they are not mafia. But even if they are mafia I don't mind at all. Ever heard of the Japanese Yakuza patrolling and helping people from disasters? The community needs some degree of order to function. As long as they benefiting the community by tagging scammers and abusers, why you complain? We don't have the official police anyway (and usually the official body will abuse you more).
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Unfortunately this shotgun type approach to leaving negative feedback is just designed to enhance the social status of the leaver by making it appear they are doing more, at the expense of simply uninformed users making simple mistakes. It happens constantly. The real problem is scammers will come back with a bought account in 30 seconds, people who made an honest mistake will just not return, leading to an increasingly scammer saturated environment.

These specific circumstances could go either way, I could see this just being an honest mistake. Often these higher ranking users have no respect for the time invested in creating a reputation and will default on destroying it rather than erring on the side of caution. After all to keep track of the user is an actual investment of time. Shotgunning negatives to make yourself look good is easy.

Well said.  I would even add that power hungry members shotgunning negative feedback couldn't care less about who they chase away from the community (not saying the members listed on this thread topic are doing that), so long as there is less competition for their nefarious activities (fake ICOs, signature campaigns full of their alts, etc.) and they can pretend they're being helpful.
legendary
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I forgot more than you will ever know.

German word for highway Huh

I guess you confuse this with Autobahn Cheesy
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The Pharmacist,actmyname,Vod.. The mafia trying to get controll of bitcointalk ?

No lol
Oh, another honest person who lost his account duo loan default and tried to reclaim it.

This thread is full of honest people.  Cheesy
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lol Well I was a little salty about that. You know when one thing get's f'ed up, a dozen more things get f'ed up with it.
legendary
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@Vod what does "profile has been autobanned" mean?
Autobanned from bpip?
Autobanned from sending you PM?
German word for highway Huh
It just means that the account was banned on the forum.

See: https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php
Oh, that wasn't a question Tongue

Alt account has been banned because of plagiarism: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/please-unban-my-account-5048642 which means they are evading ban at the moment(obviously  Roll Eyes)

I have questions for OP:

Why are you evading ban with alt account? Why have you sent merit to alt account? Why are you cheating bounties? Why spamming forum with meaningless zero value posts? Why did you try to sell something pretending it is collateral?

The Pharmacist,actmyname,Vod.. The mafia trying to get controll of bitcointalk ?

No lol
Oh, another honest person who lost his account duo loan default and tried to reclaim it.

This thread is full of honest people.  Cheesy
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The Pharmacist,actmyname,Vod.. The mafia trying to get controll of bitcointalk ?

No lol
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@Vod what does "profile has been autobanned" mean?
Autobanned from bpip?
Autobanned from sending you PM?
German word for highway Huh
It just means that the account was banned on the forum.

See: https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php
legendary
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Unfortunately this shotgun type approach to leaving negative feedback is just designed to enhance the social status of the leaver by making it appear they are doing more, at the expense of simply uninformed users making simple mistakes. It happens constantly. The real problem is scammers will come back with a bought account in 30 seconds, people who made an honest mistake will just not return, leading to an increasingly scammer saturated environment.

These specific circumstances could go either way, I could see this just being an honest mistake. Often these higher ranking users have no respect for the time invested in creating a reputation and will default on destroying it rather than erring on the side of caution. After all to keep track of the user is an actual investment of time. Shotgunning negatives to make yourself look good is easy.
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i dont understand what you mean but im talking about this guys iknow that others are good guys

That is the root of problem that you did not understand anything. Look like you have your own notions of right and wrong and unfortunately they are not correct.
For you first negative by Vod, I guess you are trying to take loan that is worth more than your collateral and in same time you was trying to sell the collateral.
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The bitcoin/bitcointalk is a decentralized system,and It simply means that there is no one who controls the system/network..

Vod,the pharmacist and actmyname are really popular members in this forum and there is no gainsaying the fact that they are working for the good of the forum trying to spot scammers and warn other users from those members,its quite a honorable thing to do

I really think they are reputable members of this forum as their trust rating shows,they have tons of positive trusts and simply so much retaliatory feedback from users whose claim hold no water
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The Pharmacist, actmyname & Vod are actually part of the Bitcointalk Illuminati, not mafia. They already control the forum. Theymos is just a front.

Honestly, sometimes I think we should just get rid of the trust system and just let users leave feedback that doesn't effect a score, but of course this would really only benefit scammers who would then have a field day without their red paint, but maybe we should just let people be reckless with their own money. Whatever we do to try curb abuse people will just abuse that or find a way to game it so there's nothing we can really do to please everyone.
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Selling accounts seems to be fraught with many dangers. You risk being scammed, or buying an account that my be reclaimed. You also risk the account being made unusable as a result of bad reputation claims.

Isn't it easier to do the work to build an honest account? Having to buy one seems to be a bit of an admission of failure to me.
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In the past, people trying to take these types of loans would be first given a warning that what they are doing looks shady, and are given the opportunity to lock their request to avoid the negative trust.
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