Topic: The Pharmacist,actmyname,Vod.. The mafia trying to get controll of bitcointalk ? (Read 2836 times)

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annico-neluns-new-generation-financial-ecosystem-4694028
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/scam-exit-scammer-launch-new-ico-hubrisone-scam-dt-please-handle-that-5040651
i want to know a reason why they dont give negative feedback for this guys who scam for millions and they it to others which didnt even scam

I believe that at this point, it is plain to see that any further discussion would not yield any results. Many of the CH threads have devolved into pointless shitslinging at one another. Perhaps there's a better way to contribute to the heat-death of the universe.

Good, You will address me as REAL  LEGEND CRYPTOHUNTER  I will address you as newbie suchmoon. As you correctly describe and recognise.

No fuck off and give me the respect i demand from such a low achieving back stabbing cowardly jackal like you and your sniveling moronic gang.

Newbie.

I'm not. As I said, get me renamed to Newbie and I'll be just as happy. You still don't get that the Legendary title was given to anybody who posted on the forum for ~3 years. It doesn't mean any of the things that you're trying to ascribe to it.

I have clearly reduced your opposition to sniveling grovelling raging crazy statements, memory loss, failure to answer questions. Attempts to back track ....lol you dumb shit. No small wonder you have not done anything  of note your entire life.

Gas and rope??? your dating techniques?? no I will not come over for dinner you disgusting wretch.

Go review the threads in meta you cretin where you demonstrate all the things I describe above. You cowardly scum bag, untrustworthy gimp.

Tell me again what have you achieved on this board of real note.... how are you a legend? why will you feature in the history of CC again?

What projects are you even part of. I just see you hovering around merit giving out opinions for no reason.

Which projects are you involved with... you know real communities involving crypto currency??

I sense a pattern here. Did all these users you mentioned happened to disagree with you at one point or another? Is that how you always "destroy them in a debate" - by declaring them "sniveling morons"? Well, if you can incorporate a gas oven and a rope you'll be right at home in the Flat Earth thread.

Deal with it man, a lot of people here have god complex. This entire forum is at this point a big social experiment, you can see how different people react and act while holding different amounts of power. Most don't necessarily blatantly abuse their powers but sometimes they do. It's what it is, it's a forum, who cares.

I don't know anything about vod but the pharmacist is sniveling moron who gets destroyed most people in a debate ... he then sneaks off and says he will not answer questions or just says he will put you on ignore.
The guy is completely stupid and the fact he is DT and a merit source is laughable

Tries to bully noobs around and leave Red trust based on his observably incorrect false assumption and actual lie that the guy was claiming work as his own

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/negative-rating-from-the-pharmacist-5063753

Plus thepharmacist has a high paying sig and refuses to remove it for 1 year if I do . He will never remove it and his main achievement here is apparently getting access to this sig campaign.... what a loser. I mean I ask him for his main achievements on this board ever and he lists this... also trying to get a real legend like myself banned with his gange of mental defectives



He is a financially motivated poster and cries about noobs that are milking the board for money.

Just find some of his recent posts on meta in my threads the guy is a broken logic mentally defective fool that is completely observable.

He also supports suspected scammers and says he wants scum like laudaM  as mods and DT and then says in the same thread he is not smart enought to understand if lauda is a scammer or not.

How is such a mentally challenged fool in any position here.... oh yes cos other imbeciles and his friends like suchmoon the idiot who states Most pre merit legends are spammers - yes  https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48819869


, loyceV and even more retarded fool   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.48664445  i mean who would even say things like that unless their mind was completely broken - hes another sig spammer with his high paid sig posting idiotic trash everywhere

malboroza - also tries to back that gang of cowards up and give me some bad trust for no good reason.

many more in that gang but easy to spot

How can these couple of dumbos be the some of the most merited here.

Next they will give you red trust then open puppet accounts because they are cowards and try to get you banned

The only way to make each member create their own trust list would be to force them to do this. Not giving a default list, but a blank one without any names.

"Ah, but the newbies will be scammed". Not if they wait enough time to know more about the forum and its members before doing business here.
As was said, the elite is only worried about their own pocket and status, the poor and the oppressed defense justify is just a excuse to keep ruling the environment.

Yes, it depends... and it speaks for you that you actually think for yourself. Unfortunately, "a lot of people" don't...

Trust is not binary, and DT should serve primarily to protect the newbies from getting scammed. I guess there are plenty of people around who are trustworthy enough for that, right?
It should not be a burden to add DT2 members -- why is it so, anyway? Anyway it's the outcome of DT becoming & being a political elite club.. which it wouldn't be if there were a lot more DT1's.

I'd say: "it depends". Suppose someone needs money quickly, and has collateral that's worth much more than what he needs. He can increase his odds of getting money quickly by taking both paths: try to sell the collateral, and at the same time try to use it for a loan. If he's open about this, and mentions this in both threads, I see no problem with it.

To add users to DT1, theymos has to trust them. Since theymos has put much more users on DT2 than DT1, I'd like to believe this is a "trial period" for people he trusts. But then I looked at Tywill, who is on DT2 (by theymos) and was last active in 2013. I had never seen this name before, although he's on DT2.
I know at least a few users have been added to DT2 this year (myself included), but I can imagine the burden on DT1 to make good choices.

I've never changed my trust list. I want to see trust the way most users see it, and I don't think a majority has adjusted his trust list. If you want, you can get a pretty good idea by checking which DT3 and DT4 members have made their own list.

Allow me to invalidate your hypothesis by taking myself as an example: I had left "only" 30-ish negative feedbacks when I was put on DT, and I don't think "tons" of those are invalid. Feel free to prove me wrong.

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FTFY... 

I would love it if you would name names here, though I doubt you're going to do it.  The DT members I see who are actively tagging scammers actually do care about the forum, and as to the part I've bolded above I'm really curious who you think is making money from their status as a DT member.

I sure as hell haven't earned a penny since I've been on DT, and it's been mostly a headache from the complaints and the "work" I do is on my own time and is precisely because I do care about improving bitcointalk.  When I tag people, I try to get it right but sometimes I don't and when evidence presents itself that's contrary to the neg I've left, I'm not above swallowing my pride and removing the neg.  I'm speaking for myself here, of course, but none of the other DT members active in tagging cheaters are earning any money as a result of that as far as I know. 


I think DT serves a purpose, but you can't rely on it too much, and I agree that it shouldn't be scrapped altogether.  Some changes might be in order based on what you wrote about some DT members not being active for a long time.  Those are DT1 members, though, and that's Theymos's call. 

I think people ought to create their own trust lists after they've been here a while and figure out who appears trustworthy.  There's never any certainty about that, as I've seen multiple DT members lose their status for a variety of reasons, and anyone can either go rogue, get hacked, or sell their account to a scammer--you just never know.

You can go look at peoples trust list, they are public. You can see that pretty much everyone uses DefaultTrust (and some customize it, but still use DT as the base.)

Maybe you don't (make your own trust list), but I agree with:

Yes, theoretically. Not in practice, because a default list conveniently exists, and people assume that everyone else uses it too.

Well you didn't tell us anything new, the DT circle is closed and the only people who are allowed to enter are the ones who leave tons but tons of non valid negative feedback. They don't care even when they are wrong they continue their wrong doing and do not give a fuck about what really is going on in the forum, as long as they are making money off of their DT status they don't care. This is not what Satoshi wanted, this is not decentralization and that is why Bitcoin is sinking (metaphorally speaking here and joking of course).

I agree about the low activity of DT1 and DT2 nowadays but I don't agree with removing inactive DT2 with at least the ones with 1 feedback or more.
Keep the one with 0 feedback sents can also be dangerous if their account will be hacked in the future, or I'm wrong?

Members can make their own trust lists, and I would wager that most users who have been around here for more than a few months (excluding the signature spammers who probably don't even know what trust is) do exactly that. I would be against scrapping default trust, as I think it is probably most useful for protecting newbies and junior members who have not yet decided who they would and would not trust themselves, and these junior users are the the ones who are most likely to be scammed.

I do however agree that a handful more DT1 members, and therefore more active DT2 members, would be a good addition to the trust system. Also removing the inactive members would probably be a good idea too. For example:

xkrikl - Inactive for 4 years. Only feedback ever left is a positive rating for one of the biggest scammers ever.
Tywill - Active for a grand total of 27 days in 2013. Only feedback ever left is a negative against a similarly inactive account.
sayulita - Inactive for 9 months. -2 default trust as potentially compromised. Total of 2 feedback left.
teukon - Inactive for 2 years. 1 feedback left.
ioxoi - Inactive for 7 months. No feedback left.