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Topic: The pirate and the SEC - Alleged e-mails. - page 4. (Read 21301 times)

legendary
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September 24, 2012, 11:35:41 PM
#48
He might "owe" 5 million, but probably only stole 0.5 to 2 million (this is range is a complete guess on my part).  Most of that five million figure is fake interest and was never backed by anything.
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
September 24, 2012, 09:42:19 PM
#47
The SEC is investigating ZEEK rewards (see: http://www.sec.gov/divisions/enforce/claims/zekerewards.htm ) and because Zeek rewards has been discussed on this forum as a possible explanation for the exact date BTCST defaulted, the SEC could be investigating a possible association.

In that case, Tom Williams of mybitcoin.com once claimed to be associated with Zeek Rewards. The link is no longer available, but if I remember correctly some guy named Bruce Wagner introduced him to the Zeek clan.

I believe the above tidbit is enough to get the SEC to look into the above mentioned entity.

~Bruno~
member
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September 24, 2012, 08:26:55 PM
#46
Did you register for gpumax?

Yes, I did.
member
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September 24, 2012, 08:26:04 PM
#45
The investigator will not pick up the phone anyone else have luck? Next the FTC will be after butterfly labs lol
He did.  I talked to him.

Oh, they've been reached quite all right https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/got-off-the-phone-with-the-guy-from-the-sec-112438

The party boat is coming for pirate.
First off: Never in my phone call did he say pirate was going to prison.  They are investigating it, but anything can happen.

Wait, so Shavers was already convicted?
No, they are doing an investigation.  See above response as well.
Any chance we can get a rundown of your call?

+1
sr. member
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September 24, 2012, 08:20:45 PM
#44
The investigator will not pick up the phone anyone else have luck? Next the FTC will be after butterfly labs lol
He did.  I talked to him.

Oh, they've been reached quite all right https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/got-off-the-phone-with-the-guy-from-the-sec-112438

The party boat is coming for pirate.
First off: Never in my phone call did he say pirate was going to prison.  They are investigating it, but anything can happen.

Wait, so Shavers was already convicted?
No, they are doing an investigation.  See above response as well.
Any chance we can get a rundown of your call?
hero member
Activity: 854
Merit: 1000
September 24, 2012, 08:11:30 PM
#43
The investigator will not pick up the phone anyone else have luck? Next the FTC will be after butterfly labs lol
He did.  I talked to him.

Oh, they've been reached quite all right https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/got-off-the-phone-with-the-guy-from-the-sec-112438

The party boat is coming for pirate.
First off: Never in my phone call did he say pirate was going to prison.  They are investigating it, but anything can happen.

Wait, so Shavers was already convicted?
No, they are doing an investigation.  See above response as well.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
September 24, 2012, 07:44:11 PM
#42
And here I thought these forums were caveat emptor.  The moment you lose, though, you run crying to the Big Government you hate so much to clean up your mess for you.  I guess you'll start paying taxes on your bitcoin earnings now that you're defending them with federal socialized resources.
So you're saying that scammers should be allowed to go free?
Sure, that sounds like a great way to build trust in the bitcoin economy  Roll Eyes
full member
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September 24, 2012, 07:06:47 PM
#41
And here I thought these forums were caveat emptor.  The moment you lose, though, you run crying to the Big Government you hate so much to clean up your mess for you.  I guess you'll start paying taxes on your bitcoin earnings now that you're defending them with federal socialized resources.
legendary
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September 24, 2012, 05:49:49 PM
#40
The SEC is investigating ZEEK rewards (see: http://www.sec.gov/divisions/enforce/claims/zekerewards.htm ) and because Zeek rewards has been discussed on this forum as a possible explanation for the exact date BTCST defaulted, the SEC could be investigating a possible association.
legendary
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brb keeping up with the Kardashians
September 24, 2012, 05:26:30 PM
#39
Wait, so Shavers was already convicted?
hero member
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September 24, 2012, 04:52:48 PM
#38
The investigator will not pick up the phone anyone else have luck? Next the FTC will be after butterfly labs lol
Not much of an investigator if he will not even pick up the phone.

Actually, he wouldn't be much of an investigator if he was constantly in the office.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
September 24, 2012, 04:27:53 PM
#37
The investigator will not pick up the phone anyone else have luck? Next the FTC will be after butterfly labs lol
Not much of an investigator if he will not even pick up the phone.
Welcome to the wonderful world of the SEC.
donator
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felonious vagrancy, personified
September 24, 2012, 04:18:59 PM
#36
The investigator will not pick up the phone anyone else have luck? Next the FTC will be after butterfly labs lol
Not much of an investigator if he will not even pick up the phone.

Maybe he's out knocking on doors?
hero member
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firstbits.com/1kznfw
September 24, 2012, 03:20:45 PM
#35
I think it was already proven that he owes about $5.5-6.0 million (depending on BTC/USD exchange rate) but amount he received from people is somewhere around $1-2 million. But that is a lot of money nevertheless.

Actually, that sound believable since he did collect a lot of coins in the $2-$5/btc range. At the time it wasn't a lot of money.
hero member
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September 24, 2012, 02:55:57 PM
#34
Oh, they've been reached quite all right https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/got-off-the-phone-with-the-guy-from-the-sec-112438

The party boat is coming for pirate.
jr. member
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Merit: 1
September 24, 2012, 02:54:15 PM
#33
For those trying to reach the SEC, they have a porn addiction to attend to. Be patient.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/federal-eye/2010/04/new_sec_porn_bust_details_rele_1.html
newbie
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Merit: 0
September 24, 2012, 02:48:00 PM
#32
Theymos might get a paper to turn over all logs, even if he is in another country, they do help each other out. 5 million in loss is a great reason to do so.

I think we need to stop perpetuating the $5 million urban legend. Blockchain analysis in the 1DkyBEKt5S2GDtv7aQw6rQepAvnsRyHoYM thread points to it being a SilkRoad address, so it's doubtful pirate ever had that many funds under control. with 459 accounts (23 of which are probably sock puppets), that would be an average holding of $11,467. Yes some accounts have been stated to be higher than that, but I find it hard to believe that there would be as many people as gullible as a barnyard animal to get an actual balance that high (maybe a virtual balance, but not coins transferred).

There was a guy here selling pirate debt last week which totally amounted to somewhere in the lower six figures (US).
pirate "debt" is many many times more than what he got. It's a ponzi, that made 7% weekly debt with 0% real profit.
legendary
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All paid signature campaigns should be banned.
September 24, 2012, 01:45:15 PM
#31
The investigator will not pick up the phone anyone else have luck? Next the FTC will be after butterfly labs lol
Not much of an investigator if he will not even pick up the phone.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
September 24, 2012, 01:34:45 PM
#30
The investigator will not pick up the phone anyone else have luck? Next the FTC will be after butterfly labs lol
legendary
Activity: 3472
Merit: 1722
September 24, 2012, 01:33:54 PM
#29
I think we need to stop perpetuating the $5 million urban legend. Blockchain analysis in the 1DkyBEKt5S2GDtv7aQw6rQepAvnsRyHoYM thread points to it being a SilkRoad address, so it's doubtful pirate ever had that many funds under control. with 459 accounts (23 of which are probably sock puppets), that would be an average holding of $11,467. Yes some accounts have been stated to be higher than that, but I find it hard to believe that there would be as many people as gullible as a barnyard animal to get an actual balance that high (maybe a virtual balance, but not coins transferred).

I think it was already proven that he owes about $5.5-6.0 million (depending on BTC/USD exchange rate) but the amount he received from people is somewhere around $1-2 million. But that is a lot of money nevertheless.
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