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Quote from: bbigtart on January 10, 2023, 02:00:14 PM

Quote from: bettercrypto on January 08, 2023, 01:50:12 AM

Other poor people have no desire to advance in life because they believe that they were born poor and will die poor. It means that people's progress depends on what mindset they believe in.

There are also others like Poor people with and poor mindset that even though you helped them get out of the pit of poverty in their lives, and even gave them a job, in the end, they still return to the mindset of a poor people. These are the lazy people who always want someone to give them help such as giving them money or relief goods.

In my opinion, it is environmental factors that influence a person's mindset. Many people learn from their environment and adopt it as a habit.

The second is access to financial information/education, access to quality books, and again environmental factors that are less supportive for learning (perhaps economic factors, mindset about education, study habits/practical thinking.

There are a lot of factors that would, in my opinion greatly influence a persons mindset and environmental factors is a teeny tiny percentage. Your environment has a way out influencing your behaviors until they become habits. I think someone could also not be influenced by the environment in which he/she resides. Someone could not let the world around him influence and get to him.
While I think environmental and societal issues could greatly impact on someone’s mindset, I also think it’s not a cause for people to remain poor

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Quote from: bbigtart on January 10, 2023, 02:00:14 PM

Quote from: bettercrypto on January 08, 2023, 01:50:12 AM

Other poor people have no desire to advance in life because they believe that they were born poor and will die poor. It means that people's progress depends on what mindset they believe in.

There are also others like Poor people with and poor mindset that even though you helped them get out of the pit of poverty in their lives, and even gave them a job, in the end, they still return to the mindset of a poor people. These are the lazy people who always want someone to give them help such as giving them money or relief goods.

In my opinion, it is environmental factors that influence a person's mindset. Many people learn from their environment and adopt it as a habit.

The second is access to financial information/education, access to quality books, and again environmental factors that are less supportive for learning (perhaps economic factors, mindset about education, study habits/practical thinking.

Environmental things on the way it would really be including the people who is around you and the establishments and opportunities that it surrounds.If you do see that it isnt something that you could be able to

make up some action then you wont really be seeing yourself be able to progress out and this is in fact the reality which it cant really be avoided or something.When someones mindset is on how to make their living
more better than on the current ones that they are really that experiencing then they would really be finding ways but if they are really just that contented on what they do have currently now then they would
really be sticking into that.

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Quote from: bettercrypto on January 08, 2023, 01:50:12 AM

Other poor people have no desire to advance in life because they believe that they were born poor and will die poor. It means that people's progress depends on what mindset they believe in.

There are also others like Poor people with and poor mindset that even though you helped them get out of the pit of poverty in their lives, and even gave them a job, in the end, they still return to the mindset of a poor people. These are the lazy people who always want someone to give them help such as giving them money or relief goods.

In my opinion, it is environmental factors that influence a person's mindset. Many people learn from their environment and adopt it as a habit.

The second is access to financial information/education, access to quality books, and again environmental factors that are less supportive for learning (perhaps economic factors, mindset about education, study habits/practical thinking.

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Quote from: Pamadar on January 10, 2023, 03:32:32 AM

Quote from: Iroh on January 09, 2023, 05:00:27 PM

Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on January 09, 2023, 07:01:17 AM

Quote from: Casdinyard on January 08, 2023, 06:54:05 PM

I don't know about it OP but your post could be a little anti-poor, not anti-poverty. We have to understand thaf oftentimes, poverty is never a choice for them to make but a culmination of circumstances that ultimately lead then to that moment. For me, it's hard to think about investing your money for the near future, when your kids are sick today and you'll have just about enough money to feed your family tomorrow. We oftentimes overlook other people's struggles just because it somehow worked out for us but you gotta admit, sometimes what separates us from them is just sheer dumb luck. Consider that.

I really don't like what the OP is saying, it sounds like he is looking down on the poor, and I agree with you that we are just getting luckier than them, not smarter than them. I wish those who are looking down on the poor to try once in the situation of the poor, I want to see how hard those people will work and how they will invest when there is no money to eat. Conversely, if those poor people were in our position, they could be more successful than we are.

I also wasn’t too keen to share in the opinions of the OP. It almost sounded to me like he was kinda putting the blame of not having any financial education and just generally being poor on the poor folks. And a lot of poor folks work really hard in their respective jobs to make ends meet. If it was all about working hard, then I know a lot of people would be billionaires today. I wouldn’t put all the blame on them for their situation.
While a lot of them may be lazy and hesitant to put in any work to better themselves and their lives, a considerable lot also work hard and try to better themselves and their lives.

Exactly, there are people who really putting everything at the table to find the best way to better their life, we can say that they are really keen on making success as they wanted to have a better future.

Not only for themselves but more on the side of having a financial stability for them and for
the whole family.

I can say that the intention is there, but the access is limited or just like you say, they are just lazy
or not willing to extend their will to find the right way.

If only it's that easy for them, but it's not. OP should try to be more considerate sometimes rather than saying some things that have no sense at all, maybe he should try to put his life into their shoes to have a better understanding in their reality to see how hard their situation is and that not everyone has the privilege to invest in crypto. We all know that cryptocurrencies can really make someone's life more comfortable if it's used cleverly but the point is, how can they start if they can only afford to eat twice or thrice a day.

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It's just too sad that most hardwork is not rewarded immediately or at all. Most people hustle and hustle and stil they don't earn anything tangible, it comes down not only to hustling but grace too.
There are people that don't need stress themselves in life but they are earning more than people hustling hard everyday., Most times their parents have opened the way for them and most of them get access to work, contracts through their parents names.
Working hard is a decision and if working hard could lift people from poverty I believe the poor population of some countries especially Nigeria would have been reduced by half.

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Quote from: Iroh on January 09, 2023, 05:00:27 PM

Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on January 09, 2023, 07:01:17 AM

Quote from: Casdinyard on January 08, 2023, 06:54:05 PM

I don't know about it OP but your post could be a little anti-poor, not anti-poverty. We have to understand thaf oftentimes, poverty is never a choice for them to make but a culmination of circumstances that ultimately lead then to that moment. For me, it's hard to think about investing your money for the near future, when your kids are sick today and you'll have just about enough money to feed your family tomorrow. We oftentimes overlook other people's struggles just because it somehow worked out for us but you gotta admit, sometimes what separates us from them is just sheer dumb luck. Consider that.

I really don't like what the OP is saying, it sounds like he is looking down on the poor, and I agree with you that we are just getting luckier than them, not smarter than them. I wish those who are looking down on the poor to try once in the situation of the poor, I want to see how hard those people will work and how they will invest when there is no money to eat. Conversely, if those poor people were in our position, they could be more successful than we are.

I also wasn’t too keen to share in the opinions of the OP. It almost sounded to me like he was kinda putting the blame of not having any financial education and just generally being poor on the poor folks. And a lot of poor folks work really hard in their respective jobs to make ends meet. If it was all about working hard, then I know a lot of people would be billionaires today. I wouldn’t put all the blame on them for their situation.
While a lot of them may be lazy and hesitant to put in any work to better themselves and their lives, a considerable lot also work hard and try to better themselves and their lives.

Exactly, there are people who really putting everything at the table to find the best way to better their life, we can say that they are really keen on making success as they wanted to have a better future.

Not only for themselves but more on the side of having a financial stability for them and for
the whole family.

I can say that the intention is there, but the access is limited or just like you say, they are just lazy
or not willing to extend their will to find the right way.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on January 09, 2023, 07:01:17 AM

Quote from: Casdinyard on January 08, 2023, 06:54:05 PM

I don't know about it OP but your post could be a little anti-poor, not anti-poverty. We have to understand thaf oftentimes, poverty is never a choice for them to make but a culmination of circumstances that ultimately lead then to that moment. For me, it's hard to think about investing your money for the near future, when your kids are sick today and you'll have just about enough money to feed your family tomorrow. We oftentimes overlook other people's struggles just because it somehow worked out for us but you gotta admit, sometimes what separates us from them is just sheer dumb luck. Consider that.

I really don't like what the OP is saying, it sounds like he is looking down on the poor, and I agree with you that we are just getting luckier than them, not smarter than them. I wish those who are looking down on the poor to try once in the situation of the poor, I want to see how hard those people will work and how they will invest when there is no money to eat. Conversely, if those poor people were in our position, they could be more successful than we are.

I also wasn’t too keen to share in the opinions of the OP. It almost sounded to me like he was kinda putting the blame of not having any financial education and just generally being poor on the poor folks. And a lot of poor folks work really hard in their respective jobs to make ends meet. If it was all about working hard, then I know a lot of people would be billionaires today. I wouldn’t put all the blame on them for their situation.
While a lot of them may be lazy and hesitant to put in any work to better themselves and their lives, a considerable lot also work hard and try to better themselves and their lives.

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Quote from: Jatiluhung on January 08, 2023, 01:31:59 AM

Quote from: rhodelmabanal on January 06, 2023, 04:25:28 PM

People has a different mind set not all the poor people is not interested about investing on bitcoin there are also poor people that wanted to invest into it but the budget is very few and not enough for investing, so they choose not to do investing.

so true. we cannot presume everyone is of the same mind based on being rich or poor. because it's like you said that there are actually many poor people who also have thoughts about investing. However, it is their financial situation and condition that has limited them. because their income is sometimes only enough to be used right away. so they sometimes have nothing left to save and invest.

Yes, even if they want to, their funds would not be suitable enough as most of their money are already used from paying debts and buying the basic needs of the family. But if they will be given same opportunities like those rich people are enjoying, obviously they will always love the idea to invest. But since they remain less fortunate people, they will always consider putting food on the table first rather than making some investments.

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Quote from: Reid on January 05, 2023, 10:05:17 AM

You just have to show them proofs and not slamming the door when they say "No" or reasoning out about how it will end up. There are pessimistic people too, do remember that. They are not poor and yet they are not willing to join such things because rumors and gossips came earlier before the marketing team. Back to the poor, they are just trying to be sure and investing in a secure way. They don't have much so might as well get the best out of it and not let it go to waste to HYIP with high risk of getting rekt.
I understand them as I am not far from a poor guy too. Been there, just worked harder.

Not all poor people refuse to invest, they really want to invest as much as they can but they don’t have enough funds to invest. That is why even if they wish too, they will never be profitable as much as rich people do because of their limited funds. And if ever they also have extra funds, they will far to invest in bitcoin because investing in bitcoin does not guarantee quick profits, which I think poor people don’t have that patience to wait for that long.

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First of all, not everyone is privileged enough to afford to invest in crypto. Most people who aren't fortunate live their everyday life working and earning enough just to have some food on their plates. It's inconsiderate enough to blame poor people for staying poor, it's true that there's a lot of opportunity to earn, but not everyone is privileged or can afford to invest. Instead of putting their money into investment, they have bills that are due, they need to spend it somewhere else like food, health, and etc. like everyone else.

It's difficult to criticize poor people if you haven't put yourself in their shoes. Poor people feels lucky enough to be able to eat at least 3 times a day, or even to send their children to school, or even pay their bills on time.

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What OP have mentioned will be the real words that come out of a poor person. We need to think why they are taking everything in a negative way and nothing positive. It is just simple, we all live to fulfill our stomach. The poor focusing on his daily bread makes him unaware of what is happening around. Very rare to see people who make themselves strong and progress, and what they achieve will be very big. It is to be noted, rather than feeding with knowledge first it is a must to feed them with food. Automatically their minds will start working and turns positive.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on January 08, 2023, 06:54:05 PM

I don't know about it OP but your post could be a little anti-poor, not anti-poverty. We have to understand thaf oftentimes, poverty is never a choice for them to make but a culmination of circumstances that ultimately lead then to that moment. For me, it's hard to think about investing your money for the near future, when your kids are sick today and you'll have just about enough money to feed your family tomorrow. We oftentimes overlook other people's struggles just because it somehow worked out for us but you gotta admit, sometimes what separates us from them is just sheer dumb luck. Consider that.

Some people have never been in an economic level position like them, so they say it without proper consideration and judge poor people without knowing their life background, this very economic position is very different from before corona and inflation, many people have lost their jobs and have no income , so if we feel we have enough from our economy to invest, then don't underestimate the poor who are currently never thinking about investing but they are thinking about what can be bought to eat tomorrow.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on January 08, 2023, 06:54:05 PM

I don't know about it OP but your post could be a little anti-poor, not anti-poverty. We have to understand thaf oftentimes, poverty is never a choice for them to make but a culmination of circumstances that ultimately lead then to that moment. For me, it's hard to think about investing your money for the near future, when your kids are sick today and you'll have just about enough money to feed your family tomorrow. We oftentimes overlook other people's struggles just because it somehow worked out for us but you gotta admit, sometimes what separates us from them is just sheer dumb luck. Consider that.

Agree, maybe yes born to a poor family and environment cannot be change but we have a choice, a choice if we will start to grow have some job rebuild our lives managing our finances well, I think in the future it will be brighter. Poor people tend to be unmotivated because of what they can hear just like what the OP are saying but we can take this as a motivation as well not to prove to those people but to prove to ourselves that we have no limitations as long as we can do thinks possible.

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Quote from: Fesatmas on January 09, 2023, 06:51:34 AM

Quote from: Casdinyard on January 08, 2023, 06:54:05 PM

I don't know about it OP but your post could be a little anti-poor, not anti-poverty. We have to understand thaf oftentimes, poverty is never a choice for them to make but a culmination of circumstances that ultimately lead then to that moment. For me, it's hard to think about investing your money for the near future, when your kids are sick today and you'll have just about enough money to feed your family tomorrow. We oftentimes overlook other people's struggles just because it somehow worked out for us but you gotta admit, sometimes what separates us from them is just sheer dumb luck. Consider that.

Yes, it's true, not everyone is lucky and can set aside their money to invest instead of using it to invest but they will be more concerned with the basic needs in their life. Actually you can make investments, but with the risk that they will not be fulfilled even if it is only for food. What's the point of investing but have to ignore or "abandon" yourself or even your family. We cannot judge other people without knowing what they are really experiencing.

But will you also agree that investment is about sacrifice. Even with the little one earn they can set aside some amount no matter how small it is for investment. Been born into poverty is one coincidence but remaining poor is a choice. Richies does not spring out from the sky it is one's conscious effort that bring them into the reality of their dreams.

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Being poor start from the mind, which is a simple definition that you can't acquire a future you never admire of, everyone in life is lied with an opportunity to make things change in his life and how we maximize these opportunities determines the extent to how far we can go in achieving them, been born poor is not an excuse before many poor born millionaires started from somewhere without letting their condition and predicaments tackle their progress in life, we choose on what we want which is our desire and relentless efforts towards it make them come into reality either to be poor or rich.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on January 08, 2023, 06:54:05 PM

I don't know about it OP but your post could be a little anti-poor, not anti-poverty. We have to understand thaf oftentimes, poverty is never a choice for them to make but a culmination of circumstances that ultimately lead then to that moment. For me, it's hard to think about investing your money for the near future, when your kids are sick today and you'll have just about enough money to feed your family tomorrow. We oftentimes overlook other people's struggles just because it somehow worked out for us but you gotta admit, sometimes what separates us from them is just sheer dumb luck. Consider that.

I really don't like what the OP is saying, it sounds like he is looking down on the poor, and I agree with you that we are just getting luckier than them, not smarter than them. I wish those who are looking down on the poor to try once in the situation of the poor, I want to see how hard those people will work and how they will invest when there is no money to eat. Conversely, if those poor people were in our position, they could be more successful than we are.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on January 08, 2023, 06:54:05 PM

I don't know about it OP but your post could be a little anti-poor, not anti-poverty. We have to understand thaf oftentimes, poverty is never a choice for them to make but a culmination of circumstances that ultimately lead then to that moment. For me, it's hard to think about investing your money for the near future, when your kids are sick today and you'll have just about enough money to feed your family tomorrow. We oftentimes overlook other people's struggles just because it somehow worked out for us but you gotta admit, sometimes what separates us from them is just sheer dumb luck. Consider that.

Yes, it's true, not everyone is lucky and can set aside their money to invest instead of using it to invest but they will be more concerned with the basic needs in their life. Actually you can make investments, but with the risk that they will not be fulfilled even if it is only for food. What's the point of investing but have to ignore or "abandon" yourself or even your family. We cannot judge other people without knowing what they are really experiencing.

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I don't know about it OP but your post could be a little anti-poor, not anti-poverty. We have to understand thaf oftentimes, poverty is never a choice for them to make but a culmination of circumstances that ultimately lead then to that moment. For me, it's hard to think about investing your money for the near future, when your kids are sick today and you'll have just about enough money to feed your family tomorrow. We oftentimes overlook other people's struggles just because it somehow worked out for us but you gotta admit, sometimes what separates us from them is just sheer dumb luck. Consider that.

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Quote from: JoyMarsha on December 25, 2022, 07:50:45 AM

No matter how hard you try, poor people can be difficult to persuade to accept and invest in bitcoin, according to my crypto knowledge and people's enlightenment. They vehemently criticize whatever you show them or introduce them to. They are the ones who constantly inquire about how you manage your funds in order to live during this economic downturn.

Poverty or degree of wealth accumulation possible is often times outside the control of individuals around the world. The majority of people are born into countries where it is extremely tough to break out of cycles that offer them low wages and very high competition. The internet has been a great equalizer in many respects, offering both knowledge and the means to work in useful services from any corner of the globe with access. Only with the right education, accrued knowledge and maybe essentially time do people have the means to improve their situation. For someone that has to work 12 hours a day, 6 days a week just to sustain their family - the ability to invest or experiment elsewhere might be impossible. Circumstances matter greatly.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on January 06, 2023, 03:56:52 AM

There are 2 kinds of poor people.

1. There are poor people who really don't know about Bitcoin, and they don't really like investing into Bitcoin and investing other assets. No matter what you will do, they really don't like to invest, and we can't do anything about it.
2. There are poor people who really likes to invest into Bitcoin, but the problem is that they don't have cash or spare money to be used to buy it. Let's accept it. There are some people around that are only earning minimum wage monthly and that's enough for the whole family to sustain their daily lives. Nothing left for savings, nothing left for investment etc.

That second type of people are pretty common in my nation and I can easily say that problems people have in the west are not problems at all in my nation. Like if you lived like the poor person of my nation but earned in USA then you would save insane amount of money there. People there earn at least 4 thousand dollars per month, and live like the poor person of my nation would cost about 200-250 dollars there.

Imagine living in a hub type of small wooden cabin with basically one bed barely fit in there, rain drops into your bed, snow covers inside the house, no bathroom, no shower, no cooking space, that's a terrible way of living and we ask that person to invest into bitcoin? I am sorry but that's just funny.

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