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Quote from: rhodelmabanal on January 06, 2023, 04:25:28 PM

People has a different mind set not all the poor people is not interested about investing on bitcoin there are also poor people that wanted to invest into it but the budget is very few and not enough for investing, so they choose not to do investing.

Yeah, and this is why it would really be that situational on which there are really that people who cant really make out some investment decisions because they arent able to do so because
of situations which they dont really have any choice but to deal up with it and there's no option that they could really be able to do so.Its not that they arent really liking to have a good
life when it comes to financial but there are really things which they cant be able to deal with and there's no other way but to go on things in life on the hardest way.
We cant make out some conclusions but its true that majority is really that having that poor mindset and that what makes them still poor.

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People has a different mind set not all the poor people is not interested about investing on bitcoin there are also poor people that wanted to invest into it but the budget is very few and not enough for investing, so they choose not to do investing.

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Quote from: JoyMarsha on December 25, 2022, 07:50:45 AM

No matter how hard you try, poor people can be difficult to persuade to accept and invest in bitcoin, according to my crypto knowledge and people's enlightenment. They vehemently criticize whatever you show them or introduce them to. They are the ones who constantly inquire about how you manage your funds in order to live during this economic downturn.

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The worst people to serve are the Poor people. Give them free, they think it's a trap. Tell them it's a small investment, they'll say can't earn much. Tell them to come in big, they'll say no money. Tell them try new things, they'll say no experience. Tell them it's traditional business, they'll say hard to do. Tell them it's a new business model, they'll say it's MLM. Tell them to run a shop, they'll say no freedom. Tell them run new business, they'll say no expertise.

They do have some things in common:

listen to friends who are as hopeless as them, they think more than a university professor and do less than a blind man.

How can we persuade the poor that without making investments and taking risks, they would not succeed in life? If they are looking for a financial breakthrough, they need become involved with anything because good things in life don't just fall into their laps. Life is about taking chances and seizing any opportunity that presents itself.

Are you rich?
As if you want to show a real change to the poor.
I think a lot of people investing now are often poor people involved. Many of them are now thinking a thousand times about investing because of the enticements of people in investment scams. It's often the case that poor people are trapped by fraudulent investment inducements with multiple profit offers on offer. Don't say you don't know about it.
So my advice, don't blame the poor when they don't want to, blame the ignorant people who first invite them into fake investment matters.

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Quote from: JoyMarsha on December 25, 2022, 07:50:45 AM

No matter how hard you try, poor people can be difficult to persuade to accept and invest in bitcoin, according to my crypto knowledge and people's enlightenment. They vehemently criticize whatever you show them or introduce them to. They are the ones who constantly inquire about how you manage your funds in order to live during this economic downturn.

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The worst people to serve are the Poor people. Give them free, they think it's a trap. Tell them it's a small investment, they'll say can't earn much. Tell them to come in big, they'll say no money. Tell them try new things, they'll say no experience. Tell them it's traditional business, they'll say hard to do. Tell them it's a new business model, they'll say it's MLM. Tell them to run a shop, they'll say no freedom. Tell them run new business, they'll say no expertise.

They do have some things in common:

listen to friends who are as hopeless as them, they think more than a university professor and do less than a blind man.

How can we persuade the poor that without making investments and taking risks, they would not succeed in life? If they are looking for a financial breakthrough, they need become involved with anything because good things in life don't just fall into their laps. Life is about taking chances and seizing any opportunity that presents itself.

I believe what you said are also the realities we can directly observed from poor people around, but you can’t simply judge them just because of that. Poor people will always want to prosper just like anyone else, but if they don’t have the resources to do that, and that they have not received better opportunities in life, so how can they start moving on to their lives if all they met are just struggles.

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Quote from: Dickiy on January 05, 2023, 04:26:37 AM

When it comes to mentality, I think it can be formed through various educational methods as a provision of principles. But here, more precisely, whether or not you want to change yourself to be more productive and leave situations that make you comfortable in stagnant conditions.
Also, this can be influenced by the choice of social environment, as we know that association has a considerable impact on us both in character and mindset. If you associate with people who understand crypto, you will know more or less about crypto, if you associate with people who understand politics more or less you will understand politics and if you hang out with people who like to invest or do business I think you will know business and investment, and you will definitely try to do that.

When you offer someone enough wage to survive, not to make them rich but to survive, it would be near impossible for them to leave that wage and star their own business.

If you offer them something super low, like minimum wage, then they will always look for a better job or even their own shop, and if you offer them a lot, and I mean more than anyone else, then they will build a network at your business and then go start their own business and steal your customers. Which all comes down to the fact that you need to pay them just enough to survive, so they would keep working for you and take any risks. This is how capitalism works, and it has worked pretty well so far.

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Quote from: ringgo96 on January 05, 2023, 07:15:54 AM

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Surely there are higher chances that rich people are just investing to it behind the scenes. They can afford to lose a large lump sum of money anyway even if their investment just did not turned out in their own favors. Poor people have more things in priority that risking what they currently have in their own bank, so others should not be surprised that they are still hesitant to drop a single penny to any sorts of investments including Bitcoin out there.

Sure Bitcoin did not fail us for more than two decades, but it does not mean that everyone should invest to it hastily.

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Quote from: JoyMarsha on December 25, 2022, 07:50:45 AM

How can we persuade the poor that without making investments and taking risks, they would not succeed in life? If they are looking for a financial breakthrough, they need become involved with anything because good things in life don't just fall into their laps. Life is about taking chances and seizing any opportunity that presents itself.

Advice all you could but you can't convince a poor man that is yet to feed his belly, one must invest in his belly before putting financial investment in the front, this is why convincing them to try out always lead to wall that they find difficult to jailbreak, our hands are not equal and infact, life is not always fair for poor person.

Again, been poor doesn't equate to been poor forever, life is sometimes give opportunity to some hard working and smart people and they make use of environment they find their selfs, and if it favour them, they move outbreak the poverty life to midlle class without investing in any assets or properties.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on January 06, 2023, 11:06:16 AM

Poor people think differently for rich people. Rich individuals think in years, while the poor think in days. Poor folks typically have pessimistic pals. They don't want to try anything new or be the first person in their group of poor friends to try something new. Just keep things as they are. It makes me think of the counsel given by the poor dad in Kiyosaki's Rich Dad, Poor Dad book. Take it easy, was the counsel. Go to school, study hard and get good grades so that you can get a good job after graduation.

If you were rich would you like to play with the poor? Definitely not because playing with them won't make you any better. And that's why the poor don't have positive, optimistic friends. This society is a classist, racist society, it has never been fair. There are poor people who really want to get rich, but because their circumstances do not allow investment or their life is too deadlocked, they cannot do anything else. Don't just look down on the poor when you haven't been through what they're going through.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on January 06, 2023, 11:06:16 AM

Poor people think differently for rich people. Rich individuals think in years, while the poor think in days. Poor folks typically have pessimistic pals. They don't want to try anything new or be the first person in their group of poor friends to try something new. Just keep things as they are. It makes me think of the counsel given by the poor dad in Kiyosaki's Rich Dad, Poor Dad book. Take it easy, was the counsel. Go to school, study hard and get good grades so that you can get a good job after graduation.

That is one of the factors instilling a mindset that causes hereditary poverty which substantially shows that thought shows becoming a company robot or an employee and the orientation of his thoughts is money to fulfil desires, I often see when people buy motorbikes from the results of their hard work for years only want to get personal satisfaction and respect from others, it's still better for people who save up first to buy something, cause what's worse are those who deliberately buy a wish with credit and some even deliberately sell land or fields to buy a vehicle that is only oriented towards want to be praised by others that he is capable.

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Quote from: JoyMarsha on December 25, 2022, 07:50:45 AM

No matter how hard you try, poor people can be difficult to persuade to accept and invest in bitcoin, according to my crypto knowledge and people's enlightenment. They vehemently criticize whatever you show them or introduce them to. They are the ones who constantly inquire about how you manage your funds in order to live during this economic downturn.

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The worst people to serve are the Poor people. Give them free, they think it's a trap. Tell them it's a small investment, they'll say can't earn much. Tell them to come in big, they'll say no money. Tell them try new things, they'll say no experience. Tell them it's traditional business, they'll say hard to do. Tell them it's a new business model, they'll say it's MLM. Tell them to run a shop, they'll say no freedom. Tell them run new business, they'll say no expertise.

They do have some things in common:

listen to friends who are as hopeless as them, they think more than a university professor and do less than a blind man.

How can we persuade the poor that without making investments and taking risks, they would not succeed in life? If they are looking for a financial breakthrough, they need become involved with anything because good things in life don't just fall into their laps. Life is about taking chances and seizing any opportunity that presents itself.

First of all I don't get who you describe as poor! If you're talking about lower middle class with no stable income and not good job opportunities then the answer is yeah they don't have anything so they can't afford to lose anything but you need to remember most of the richest people in the world now started their journey from zero so its all about time and ideas which they workout and execute.

In general bitcoin is more suitable for middle class people to invest because they no need too much knowledge like investing in a stock its simply like investing in gold but higher returns along with higher volatility.

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Poor people think differently for rich people. Rich individuals think in years, while the poor think in days. Poor folks typically have pessimistic pals. They don't want to try anything new or be the first person in their group of poor friends to try something new. Just keep things as they are. It makes me think of the counsel given by the poor dad in Kiyosaki's Rich Dad, Poor Dad book. Take it easy, was the counsel. Go to school, study hard and get good grades so that you can get a good job after graduation.

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Quote from: Natalim on January 06, 2023, 07:43:15 AM

Quote from: ringgo96 on January 05, 2023, 07:15:54 AM

Until now there are still many people who do not believe in the crypto world who can earn big money and can manage our economic needs well, Many people are still hesitant about investing in bitcoin or altcoins and they still judge negative things about the crypto world, and this is not only the case for the poor and some rich people also respond too badly about the crypto world without studying well, Then never force anyone to get to know the crypto world without their own desires because we will definitely listen to negative assumptions.

It is because of a lack of education about crypto. Their views will remain thinking negative until such time they will know deeply about Bitcoin. Because what I see is that the majority are just living up to assumptions thinking that Bitcoin is not real but a full of scam. Without proper education, surely it was hard to encourage people to take a look at the benefits of investing in Bitcoin.
We couldn't argue with them, the only thing we can do is to let them discover the importance of Bitcoin, especially during inflation.

Sometimes it's not because of a lack of education but because they don't like cryptocurrencies and don't like their volatility. We can't force everyone to invest in crypto, or crypto will always appeal to everyone.

Besides crypto, we have many other areas to invest in, and it's each person's choice, such as our dislike of investing in gold and stocks, and they'll say we don't know anything about gold or stocks. Don't impose your opinion on others, cryptocurrency is not the only market that makes profit, many people have become rich by investing in gold, stocks without crypto.

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Quote from: ringgo96 on January 05, 2023, 07:15:54 AM

Until now there are still many people who do not believe in the crypto world who can earn big money and can manage our economic needs well, Many people are still hesitant about investing in bitcoin or altcoins and they still judge negative things about the crypto world, and this is not only the case for the poor and some rich people also respond too badly about the crypto world without studying well, Then never force anyone to get to know the crypto world without their own desires because we will definitely listen to negative assumptions.

To this day there are still a lot of people who don't believe in cryptocurrency dude, and that's part of this industry. And that's normal too because just think if everyone believes in cryptocurrency and no one will work as an employee, many companies will probably have problems finding applicants to be their employees, do you get it?

So let's thank the people who don't believe in cryptocurrency because not all people are really for the field of industry.

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Quote from: ringgo96 on January 05, 2023, 07:15:54 AM

Until now there are still many people who do not believe in the crypto world who can earn big money and can manage our economic needs well, Many people are still hesitant about investing in bitcoin or altcoins and they still judge negative things about the crypto world,

People are yet to understand that big money are flowing into this market because this is the future, we can see big company looking for ways they can get involved because they have seen that this market shoudn't be underated as it will definitely be bigger than how it's now in the future. People also have to understand that the market can be taken advantage of no matter your class.

Money does make investing more profitable but you have to have patience and invest the little you have now to become rich in the future. The poor in the society have to realize this soon and start investing today so they can change their story tomorrow.

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Quote from: ringgo96 on January 05, 2023, 07:15:54 AM

Until now there are still many people who do not believe in the crypto world who can earn big money and can manage our economic needs well, Many people are still hesitant about investing in bitcoin or altcoins and they still judge negative things about the crypto world, and this is not only the case for the poor and some rich people also respond too badly about the crypto world without studying well, Then never force anyone to get to know the crypto world without their own desires because we will definitely listen to negative assumptions.

It is because of a lack of education about crypto. Their views will remain thinking negative until such time they will know deeply about Bitcoin. Because what I see is that the majority are just living up to assumptions thinking that Bitcoin is not real but a full of scam. Without proper education, surely it was hard to encourage people to take a look at the benefits of investing in Bitcoin.
We couldn't argue with them, the only thing we can do is to let them discover the importance of Bitcoin, especially during inflation.

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Quote from: JoyMarsha on December 25, 2022, 07:50:45 AM

No matter how hard you try, poor people can be difficult to persuade to accept and invest in bitcoin, according to my crypto knowledge and people's enlightenment. They vehemently criticize whatever you show them or introduce them to. They are the ones who constantly inquire about how you manage your funds in order to live during this economic downturn.

Too harsh. You're very one-sided on this one. There are 2 kinds of poor people.

1. There are poor people who really don't know about Bitcoin, and they don't really like investing into Bitcoin and investing other assets. No matter what you will do, they really don't like to invest, and we can't do anything about it.
2. There are poor people who really likes to invest into Bitcoin, but the problem is that they don't have cash or spare money to be used to buy it. Let's accept it. There are some people around that are only earning minimum wage monthly and that's enough for the whole family to sustain their daily lives. Nothing left for savings, nothing left for investment etc.

Quote from: JoyMarsha on December 25, 2022, 07:50:45 AM

How can we persuade the poor that without making investments and taking risks, they would not succeed in life? If they are looking for a financial breakthrough, they need become involved with anything because good things in life don't just fall into their laps. Life is about taking chances and seizing any opportunity that presents itself.

Be an eye-opener to them and not don't spoon-feed them.

Kinda harsh TBH but it's the way that I think that will work. If a person really is interested on investing into Bitcoin after explaining the basics of it, they will be the ones who will find a way to learn. They will be the one who will find a way to invest into Bitcoin. I don't like spoon-feeding people because of the fact that they might not interested on it at first place. Like I said, people who are interested in a certain thing will always find a way to know more about it.

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Quote from: ringgo96 on January 05, 2023, 07:15:54 AM

Until now there are still many people who do not believe in the crypto world who can earn big money and can manage our economic needs well, Many people are still hesitant about investing in bitcoin or altcoins and they still judge negative things about the crypto world, and this is not only the case for the poor and some rich people also respond too badly about the crypto world without studying well, Then never force anyone to get to know the crypto world without their own desires because we will definitely listen to negative assumptions.

Just let them be on which they are really that missing that huge opportunity which they might able to changed up their lives when it comes to financial state and would get out on poverty state.
It is really just there are people who are really that close minded and doesnt really have any plans on making their lives way more better but rather decide to stay up that way and wouldnt
mind if they would really just die on being poor. Well its their life and choice that they do make but it is really just sad that there are people who are just contented on what they do have
even on the hardest possible situations in life.We arent that underestimating but at least they should really know on how to find ways at least while they are still living.
They do say its impossible and cant be reached up? You wouldnt know unless you do try.

they are just afraid that what they have will disappear and there will be no trace of it while there is no education that convinces them to invest. especially now that many people are cheating in droves on the pretext of a lucrative investment or business, in fact they will only deceive these poor people because the fraudster knows that poor people will not be able to fight or report to the authorities because it takes a lot of money to convince him unless he has strong evidence. even that does not guarantee that action will be taken against the perpetrators.

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Quote from: JoyMarsha on December 25, 2022, 07:50:45 AM

How can we persuade the poor that without making investments and taking risks, they would not succeed in life? If they are looking for a financial breakthrough, they need become involved with anything because good things in life don't just fall into their laps. Life is about taking chances and seizing any opportunity that presents itself.

You have a point. Just like the saying "no pain, no gain", one needs to take risk in order to gain something. However, how can a poor people invest if their income is just enough for a living? The number 1 rule is only invest what you can afford to lose, but if you're poor, obviously you can't do that since every penny matter. But if there's a will, definitely there's a way, therefore if you're poor but determine to become financially stable then you'll do something to change the way you used to by working hard and never be contented to live as poor.

That's true because if we talk about poor people who want to invest I think they need to work hard first,
it's better for the poor to think about how to get a more decent job in order to get at least a more stable income,
don't think about investing first and the important thing is they have to be wise

Poor people doesn't have the mentality of investing very fast in what ever they are doing, what they necessarily believe on is the systematic way to achieve what they want, so therefore i believe that the reason why poor people is not courage to run investment very faster like other people it's because they feel that they might lose everything they have if they use the little they have

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Quote from: ringgo96 on January 05, 2023, 07:15:54 AM

Until now there are still many people who do not believe in the crypto world who can earn big money and can manage our economic needs well, Many people are still hesitant about investing in bitcoin or altcoins and they still judge negative things about the crypto world, and this is not only the case for the poor and some rich people also respond too badly about the crypto world without studying well, Then never force anyone to get to know the crypto world without their own desires because we will definitely listen to negative assumptions.

Just let them be on which they are really that missing that huge opportunity which they might able to changed up their lives when it comes to financial state and would get out on poverty state.
It is really just there are people who are really that close minded and doesnt really have any plans on making their lives way more better but rather decide to stay up that way and wouldnt
mind if they would really just die on being poor. Well its their life and choice that they do make but it is really just sad that there are people who are just contented on what they do have
even on the hardest possible situations in life.We arent that underestimating but at least they should really know on how to find ways at least while they are still living.
They do say its impossible and cant be reached up? You wouldnt know unless you do try.

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Poverty is a mentality issue, some persons are mentally poor that apart from bitcoin there's nothing you'll introduce to them that has the possibility of changing their standard of life to better that they would want to get involved. If you constantly try, you will be tagged by them as a nuisance and a disturbance to their life. As in, they are contented with where they are, what they have and how they living the life. The little that comes in handy for them suffice them.
To me it's a waste of time and energy trying to persuade such person's about seizing any life changing opportunity, bitcoin inclusive. All I have chosen to do is to let the results in my life from those opportunities speak out for itself and anyone that sees it and which to know and get himself involved I don't hesitate to share the opportunity.

One thing Op should understand is that, being poor or rich in life is a matter of choice, so need not be forcing persons into something they ain't interested in.

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