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hero member
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January 05, 2023, 10:05:17 AM
You just have to show them proofs and not slamming the door when they say "No" or reasoning out about how it will end up. There are pessimistic people too, do remember that. They are not poor and yet they are not willing to join such things because rumors and gossips came earlier before the marketing team. Back to the poor, they are just trying to be sure and investing in a secure way. They don't have much so might as well get the best out of it and not let it go to waste to HYIP with high risk of getting rekt.
I understand them as I am not far from a poor guy too. Been there, just worked harder.
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January 05, 2023, 08:03:25 AM
Most likely referring to the sheep who have been confined in that condition for their own good. The truth is that if the world's reward system is fair they will most likely be at the top because they have the potential to be the most moral or upright people in their job.

Becareful how you speak against the poor though. They are supposed to be defended. People who hate the poor don't end well.
hero member
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January 05, 2023, 07:38:45 AM
That's true because if we talk about poor people who want to invest I think they need to work hard first,
it's better for the poor to think about how to get a more decent job in order to get at least a more stable income,
don't think about investing first and the important thing is they have to be wise
What do you say ? Don't poor people always have to think about things that they still haven't got in their lives so that they can be more enthusiastic about planning as carefully as possible to be able to change their lives from being poor to being rich?

If poor people only think about eating and working and continue to rely on existing income without making other, better plans, then they will not get better development in their lives. Because basically they have to be able to think about more things in order to rise gradually even though their position is in the lower category or a difficult position.
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January 05, 2023, 07:15:54 AM
Until now there are still many people who do not believe in the crypto world who can earn big money and can manage our economic needs well, Many people are still hesitant about investing in bitcoin or altcoins and they still judge negative things about the crypto world, and this is not only the case for the poor and some rich people also respond too badly about the crypto world without studying well, Then never force anyone to get to know the crypto world without their own desires because we will definitely listen to negative assumptions.
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January 05, 2023, 06:51:10 AM
No matter how hard you try, poor people can be difficult to persuade to accept and invest in bitcoin, according to my crypto knowledge and people's enlightenment. They vehemently criticize whatever you show them or introduce them to. They are the ones who constantly inquire about how you manage your funds in order to live during this economic downturn.

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The worst people to serve are the Poor people. Give them free, they think it's a trap. Tell them it's a small investment, they'll say can't earn much. Tell them to come in big, they'll say no money. Tell them try new things, they'll say no experience. Tell them it's traditional business, they'll say hard to do. Tell them it's a new business model, they'll say it's MLM. Tell them to run a shop, they'll say no freedom. Tell them run new business, they'll say no expertise.

They do have some things in common:

listen to friends who are as hopeless as them, they think more than a university professor and do less than a blind man.
How can we persuade the poor that without making investments and taking risks, they would not succeed in life? If they are looking for a financial breakthrough, they need become involved with anything because good things in life don't just fall into their laps. Life is about taking chances and seizing any opportunity that presents itself.

   - Not all poor people are open-minded when it comes to business or online opportunities. Most of them are negative in this situation, Only a few of the poor people have a positive mindset. Because other businessmen are successful now but back then it was also difficult.

Now, to encourage them, they just need to be made to understand their current situation and disposition in life and teach them to understand correctly what should be done to get them out of the difficult situation in their lives.
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January 05, 2023, 05:40:32 AM
OP I think what you mean is not about financially poor. but the direction of your words is more directed at people who are poor in sight (not wise). people who are not wise indeed prefer to see everything from a negative direction. they are more sensitive in feelings and also pessimistic in thinking. and people who are not wise are not only in the poor but can also exist in the rich and generally in all people. because I do not agree if what you mean is financially poor. because I have a friend who originally came from a poor person but he has a wise mind and extraordinary skills. it's just that he lacks connections in life so no one sees his potential. But now he has become richer than me. even though I used to know he was financially poor, but maybe because he was wise and had broad insights so he could change his life and he was even one of the people who introduced me to bitcoin investment. Initially, I offered him property investment. But instead he also turned around to offer a more attractive investment, namely Bitcoin. and the conclusion is wise and unwise cannot be judged by rich or poor.
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January 05, 2023, 05:01:08 AM
How can we persuade the poor that without making investments and taking risks, they would not succeed in life? If they are looking for a financial breakthrough, they need become involved with anything because good things in life don't just fall into their laps. Life is about taking chances and seizing any opportunity that presents itself.
You have a point. Just like the saying "no pain, no gain", one needs to take risk in order to gain something. However, how can a poor people invest if their income is just enough for a living? The number 1 rule is only invest what you can afford to lose, but if you're poor, obviously you can't do that since every penny matter. But if there's a will, definitely there's a way, therefore if you're poor but determine to become financially stable then you'll do something to change the way you used to by working hard and never be contented to live as poor.
That's true because if we talk about poor people who want to invest I think they need to work hard first,
it's better for the poor to think about how to get a more decent job in order to get at least a more stable income,
don't think about investing first and the important thing is they have to be wise
sr. member
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January 05, 2023, 04:26:37 AM
How can we persuade the poor that without making investments and taking risks, they would not succeed in life? If they are looking for a financial breakthrough, they need become involved with anything because good things in life don't just fall into their laps. Life is about taking chances and seizing any opportunity that presents itself.

You said it, it's the mentality that divide poor people from rich people. Rich people always like to take risk, try new things, finding new income resources, learn more skills, while poor people don't like to take risk and you find them comfortable with their life styles without any try to improve. However, I attribute small part of the richness case to the luck, some people were lucky to be in a domain, for example Crypto, most of us joined it maybe by luck or without any prior thinking.

When it comes to mentality, I think it can be formed through various educational methods as a provision of principles. But here, more precisely, whether or not you want to change yourself to be more productive and leave situations that make you comfortable in stagnant conditions.
Also, this can be influenced by the choice of social environment, as we know that association has a considerable impact on us both in character and mindset. If you associate with people who understand crypto, you will know more or less about crypto, if you associate with people who understand politics more or less you will understand politics and if you hang out with people who like to invest or do business I think you will know business and investment, and you will definitely try to do that.
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January 05, 2023, 03:51:03 AM
How can we persuade the poor that without making investments and taking risks, they would not succeed in life? If they are looking for a financial breakthrough, they need become involved with anything because good things in life don't just fall into their laps. Life is about taking chances and seizing any opportunity that presents itself.
You have a point. Just like the saying "no pain, no gain", one needs to take risk in order to gain something. However, how can a poor people invest if their income is just enough for a living? The number 1 rule is only invest what you can afford to lose, but if you're poor, obviously you can't do that since every penny matter. But if there's a will, definitely there's a way, therefore if you're poor but determine to become financially stable then you'll do something to change the way you used to by working hard and never be contented to live as poor.
Well, we can say that "investing" is not on their mind. I know these people want to improve their living and dream to become rich but unfortunately, they are not capable to do that. Investment needs capital - and this is what they miss. That is why they just prioritize earning money and working hard in order to survive. And they only hope for LUCK - they now put their future into gambling that is why we can see a lot of poor people are into buying lottery tickets hoping to have luck and become rich instantly. A wrong mindset but I understand their situation.
hero member
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January 05, 2023, 02:23:34 AM
How can we persuade the poor that without making investments and taking risks, they would not succeed in life? If they are looking for a financial breakthrough, they need become involved with anything because good things in life don't just fall into their laps. Life is about taking chances and seizing any opportunity that presents itself.
You have a point. Just like the saying "no pain, no gain", one needs to take risk in order to gain something. However, how can a poor people invest if their income is just enough for a living? The number 1 rule is only invest what you can afford to lose, but if you're poor, obviously you can't do that since every penny matter. But if there's a will, definitely there's a way, therefore if you're poor but determine to become financially stable then you'll do something to change the way you used to by working hard and never be contented to live as poor.
legendary
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January 05, 2023, 01:45:22 AM
It is difficult for people experiencing financial difficulties to think about investments and their thoughts are more focused on how and on what to save so that there is free money. In this position, it is almost impossible to convince them, because instead of thinking about how to earn money, they think about how to save money. This is a radically different way of thinking. Purely practically very difficult to mentally readjust. Also, are you ready to take responsibility for them by offering risky investments? That is, if the poor lose everything, are you ready to compensate for their losses or take them for your maintenance? I'm sure not. So why are you so eager to get them involved in all this? It is better to offer investment to those who can afford it without serious damage to their standard of living.
That is basically me right now. I am not in a financial situation where I can think about investing, I did my investment so far and I am not going to be able to invest more on top of it for a few more months but then I am going to be doing a lot better.

I believe that the best thing to do right now would be fixing all my debt issue and somehow start earning more, I have been working hard thankfully and my job is better this month, it has been just 4 days of course but if I can keep this up for whole month, and make money this way then I am going to be making more than usual, increasing your revenue is more important in case if you are poor, compared to trying to save and invest.
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January 04, 2023, 03:03:07 PM
How can we persuade the poor that without making investments and taking risks, they would not succeed in life? If they are looking for a financial breakthrough, they need become involved with anything because good things in life don't just fall into their laps. Life is about taking chances and seizing any opportunity that presents itself.

You said it, it's the mentality that divide poor people from rich people. Rich people always like to take risk, try new things, finding new income resources, learn more skills, while poor people don't like to take risk and you find them comfortable with their life styles without any try to improve. However, I attribute small part of the richness case to the luck, some people were lucky to be in a domain, for example Crypto, most of us joined it maybe by luck or without any prior thinking.
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January 04, 2023, 01:09:35 PM
There is one thing I'm very sure of that wealth is a matter of choice and that's why we have both options of being rich and also being poor.
I've come across a book talking about why the rich always stay rich and the poor become poorer and I neglected reading that book because I've always known that rich people are risk takers and the higher the risk, the higer your success.
Most times I see poverty as a state of the mind and there are people who see everything as a scam and wouldn't even bother giving it a trial and I could remember an incidence where I was trying to get someone into joining the forum and he was so interested but the moment he got to the stage where he was asked to pay a very little fee to clear the proxy ban, he flew and never returned and later would start seeking for solution to a problem you brought upon yourself.
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January 04, 2023, 12:49:15 PM
No matter how hard you try, poor people can be difficult to persuade to accept and invest in bitcoin, according to my crypto knowledge and people's enlightenment. They vehemently criticize whatever you show them or introduce them to. They are the ones who constantly inquire about how you manage your funds in order to live during this economic downturn.

How can we persuade the poor that without making investments and taking risks, they would not succeed in life? If they are looking for a financial breakthrough, they need become involved with anything because good things in life don't just fall into their laps. Life is about taking chances and seizing any opportunity that presents itself.

I think many of your opinions are against it because you judge all poor people the same and do not segment them by age.
Your opinion is quite logical if the poor people you survey are those who are 35 years and over, where their mindset is realistic and makes use of existing income sources to survive and of course, they will refuse to invest because most poor people have reached This age has many dependents that must be met every day so they don't have the time and enough money to take risks in investing. Maybe there will be many of them who have experienced being scammed with fake investments, so it is quite logical to refuse to invest and choose to use existing resources for their needs.
And if your segmentation is at a productive age, to be precise at the age of 30 and under, they will always be responsive to the advice you give them, because if you look at it today, most of those who invest are those in their 20s who are still looking for opportunities and experience in the world of finance.
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January 04, 2023, 12:01:21 PM
Are you trying to say that you are trying to impose that they need to invest in it? If you're trying to live day-to-day with your paycheck, you can't blame them. But I'm afraid I have to disagree with them because they will be irritated and complain about what's happening in their lives. That's just how you would know that they are dependent on what they are with around and not what they make happen or something.

You exactly can’t blame someone who lives paycheck to paycheck on the mentality he/she would have developed over time. They haven’t got enough to begin with to live a moderate lifestyle as they barely earn enough.

I also wouldn’t fault them for being irritated and complain about what’s happening in their lives. They are poor! They don’t have much going for them, and they’re at the bottom of the societal ladder. They’re almost immediately looked upon as degenerates. I think anyone would be irritated and complain about what’s going on in their lives.
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January 04, 2023, 11:56:21 AM
Only someone who really wants to accept progress and is also open to new things might be more realistic for us to invite rather than spending energy and time just inviting old-fashioned people
old-fashioned, can someone explain the word related to investment because it's the worst term for people who don't understand digitalization information related to crypto and it's not good to force them to invest in crypto which is too risky for their finances, so even if other people reject your invitation but you don't have the right to force them because they have a low economy and they work only to meet their daily needs and continue to work to survive.

Actually, they just don't understand the annual market cycle, so it's difficult to involve them in current market conditions, but I'm sure when market conditions recover significantly, many people in the lower economic category will take advantage of the momentum to benefit from market recovery.
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January 04, 2023, 10:57:59 AM
Only someone who really wants to accept progress and is also open to new things might be more realistic for us to invite rather than spending energy and time just inviting old-fashioned people, in my opinion in this case we cannot generalize poor people as people who do not want to accept things new (Bitcoin), sometimes the rich are also very difficult for us to take invest in bitcoin because they really don't know about bitcoin and they tend to be more comfortable investing in something real like land and gold, while poor people may not want to invest in bitcoin just because they are don't have money and I think that's a natural thing because after all investing in bitcoin of course we have to have initial capital.
No need to say old-fashioned to people who don't want to know Bitcoin or invest in Bitcoin, Because they also have the right to refuse it when someone wants to introduce Bitcoin to them. After all, it is also not an obligation for someone to invite other people to want to invest in Bitcoin and tell them about Bitcoin even though it is a good thing for them and also their future. But know that they will not see you when you fall or lose from your own investments and they will also tend to blame you when they experience losses through the investments that you teach, because you are the one who invites them into that.

So there's no need to say old-fashioned to those who refuse your invitation because they also have their own minds whether they want something new or don't want it. Let them choose their own path in determining the direction of their investment and that applies to everyone, be it the rich or the poor. Because there are also poor people who don't believe in Bitcoin and don't want to learn to invest even though there are people who want to teach them for free.
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January 04, 2023, 08:48:45 AM
There are always people you can't persuade/force no matter how hard you try because they have a different mindsets, needs, finances, and others compared to you. Those are the people who are struggling. They don't have leisure time, or extra money to take a risk. Instead, they choose to work or do something that can surely earn them money  You should also understand their situation on why they have such mindset.
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January 04, 2023, 07:15:40 AM
It is difficult for people experiencing financial difficulties to think about investments and their thoughts are more focused on how and on what to save so that there is free money. In this position, it is almost impossible to convince them, because instead of thinking about how to earn money, they think about how to save money. This is a radically different way of thinking. Purely practically very difficult to mentally readjust. Also, are you ready to take responsibility for them by offering risky investments? That is, if the poor lose everything, are you ready to compensate for their losses or take them for your maintenance? I'm sure not. So why are you so eager to get them involved in all this? It is better to offer investment to those who can afford it without serious damage to their standard of living.
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January 04, 2023, 05:56:16 AM
No matter how hard you try, poor people can be difficult to persuade to accept and invest in bitcoin, according to my crypto knowledge and people's enlightenment. They vehemently criticize whatever you show them or introduce them to. They are the ones who constantly inquire about how you manage your funds in order to live during this economic downturn.

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The worst people to serve are the Poor people. Give them free, they think it's a trap. Tell them it's a small investment, they'll say can't earn much. Tell them to come in big, they'll say no money. Tell them try new things, they'll say no experience. Tell them it's traditional business, they'll say hard to do. Tell them it's a new business model, they'll say it's MLM. Tell them to run a shop, they'll say no freedom. Tell them run new business, they'll say no expertise.

They do have some things in common:

listen to friends who are as hopeless as them, they think more than a university professor and do less than a blind man.
How can we persuade the poor that without making investments and taking risks, they would not succeed in life? If they are looking for a financial breakthrough, they need become involved with anything because good things in life don't just fall into their laps. Life is about taking chances and seizing any opportunity that presents itself.
Only someone who really wants to accept progress and is also open to new things might be more realistic for us to invite rather than spending energy and time just inviting old-fashioned people, in my opinion in this case we cannot generalize poor people as people who do not want to accept things new (Bitcoin), sometimes the rich are also very difficult for us to take invest in bitcoin because they really don't know about bitcoin and they tend to be more comfortable investing in something real like land and gold, while poor people may not want to invest in bitcoin just because they are don't have money and I think that's a natural thing because after all investing in bitcoin of course we have to have initial capital.
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