The poor people with their reasoning - page 7.

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Quote from: Cryptock on December 31, 2022, 12:08:31 AM

I have seen many poor people with more talent and less resources. They try to find ways out in less money.
And I have seen many rich people with excuses all the time. . . smart work is the key to success and there is space for the excuses.

Actually, both types of people both have a very natural thing for themselves, because a poor person who tries to find a way out with less money will also find victory within himself one day if he continues to focus and be consistent in working patiently. And for rich people who always have more reasons all the time will also lose in time, unless he can always be smart in turning his money around to get more money, namely profits through his own efforts.

Hard work is really the key, and you should also be smart and take risks even if you are poor, because your time will come and you will get lucky, but the problem is that if you keep doing this but no opportunity comes, you will be mentally exhausted. This is the harsh reality of poor people: we must wait for the right moment to strike before we can move forward. Hard work and perseverance are really needed, and don't lose hope in doing what we want; for sure, in the future, we will be rewarded.

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Quote from: Cryptock on January 02, 2023, 02:16:25 PM

in our country the poor people have so many skills - but there are very less who are honest in their dealing with their boss.
Most of the people would not properly work and would demand a lot after in return. The honest and hardworking person does not remain poor for long. That is for sure!

Poor people only need awareness within themselves, because poor people do not have capital in the form of money other than skills and honesty that they must rely on when working in a place or company. So those who are still poor and still need a job in someone else's place must realize this that they must be really honest and skilled at work if they want to stay in a place for a long term or until he becomes rich.

And you know for yourself, that there are very few honest and skilled people in this world so that companies or bosses who are looking for employees for their business still need to look and research themselves in more detail when they want to accept new people for their company. Because companies not only need someone who is skilled but also need someone who is honest, so it would be very useless if someone who only has the skills but is not honest. But on the other hand, the company can still use honest people even though they are unskilled, because these people can still be taught properly to become more skilled in the required fields.

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Are you trying to say that you are trying to impose that they need to invest in it? If you're trying to live day-to-day with your paycheck, you can't blame them. But I'm afraid I have to disagree with them because they will be irritated and complain about what's happening in their lives. That's just how you would know that they are dependent on what they are with around and not what they make happen or something.

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I don't think it comes with being poor, I think it's an individual thing, but although such reactions are mainly among poor people, I think it's due to the fact that the income they are living on is only enough for their daily survival and there are no extra fund for future investment plans, and they work very hard for their income and wouldn't want to lose it just like that over an uncertain risk that is why they scrutiny every business investment idea.

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Quote from: inthelongrun on December 27, 2022, 12:56:05 AM

If you're looking into poor people that can hardly provide their basic needs then you cannot really convince them. What they need is a better job or income in order for them to save something for their future like investments and business.

On the other hand, there are poor people that have little excess money. Except that most of them have a different mentality. They prefer to buy phones, gadgets, and other devices that are not really that necessary for their future. Because they have excess from their regular salaries, they prefer to borrow money in order to purchase expensive stuffs that won't grow in value over the years. So yeah, they are a good target for financial education. I prefer to tell them about bitcoin rather than tell them to invest in it. Other options should be considered too like launching even a small business that can further alleviate their status of life.

in our country the poor people have so many skills - but there are very less who are honest in their dealing with their boss.
Most of the people would not properly work and would demand a lot after in return. The honest and hardworking person does not remain poor for long. That is for sure!

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Quote from: LoyceMobile on December 25, 2022, 08:59:56 AM

That's quite inconsiderate. Can you imagine many people don't have the luxury to invest because at the end of the month they only have debts left?

The richer you are, the more risk you can afford to take without going hungry or homeless when your investments fail.

Poor people would always want to invest if there are chances to invest, and they have the sufficient funds to invest. But they lack the whole resources to invest, and all they could have are just plans but failed to realized because they were not given the same opportunities with those who are living good life. So we can’t actually blame them for that because they have their own valid reasons.

I have seen many poor people with more talent and less resources. They try to find ways out in less money.
And I have seen many rich people with excuses all the time. . . smart work is the key to success and there is space for the excuses.

I observed that poor people with less resources often develop creativity to be able to meet their goal. They are trained to work around the issue because of the lack of resources and become master of innovations. They create things that can be alternative to the supposed to be materials to their goal. So despite of being poor, the minds of these people becomes flexible and practical to things. This is another reason that they blatantly turn down any investment that they think will take so much time when they can earn such amount in a shorter period of time through working and not spending any amount of money for investment.

Rich people have the resources while poor people have their self. Rich people make money works for them while poor people having not much money make their body or strength work for them. Reason why when it comes to physical work, poor people are more capable. The good thing is poor people being physically capable, skillful on the given industry and be able to train their knowledge will produce better outcome than a rich people that is full of theories in minds.

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Quote from: Cryptock on December 31, 2022, 12:08:31 AM

I have seen many poor people with more talent and less resources. They try to find ways out in less money.
And I have seen many rich people with excuses all the time. . . smart work is the key to success and there is space for the excuses.

Actually, both types of people both have a very natural thing for themselves, because a poor person who tries to find a way out with less money will also find victory within himself one day if he continues to focus and be consistent in working patiently. And for rich people who always have more reasons all the time will also lose in time, unless he can always be smart in turning his money around to get more money, namely profits through his own efforts.

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Quote from: JoyMarsha on December 25, 2022, 08:50:45 AM

How can we persuade the poor that without making investments and taking risks, they would not succeed in life? If they are looking for a financial breakthrough, they need become involved with anything because good things in life don't just fall into their laps. Life is about taking chances and seizing any opportunity that presents itself.

The thing is, what will they invest in? money ? crypto? or become workers and get rewarded only for their daily needs, and even then if it is enough, sometimes they even have to find another job to meet their needs. So, what solution do you offer them? most poor people have low education, i don't mean to discredit them. however, from the way and mindset alone is different.

and what they can want, it's only natural that they don't think like you. unless you donate a bit of your assets or a few mbtc so they can understand what you want to tell them. As you said, life is all about taking chances and taking advantage of every opportunity that comes along. Maybe you can apply this expression to yourself, because you have privileges. but for them, what opportunities could they take while they were dealing with a hungry tummy problem.

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Quote from: ultrloa on December 31, 2022, 12:57:12 PM

Many people like to own something but they don't have the capacity to acquire what they want because they are struggling financially. So don't just people on why they don't acquire things you have or they should supposed to be have since maybe they just have plan but for now they are just watching then see things will happen on them in future.

Lets erase that mindset but rather lets spread positive word about investment and other opportunity brought by it especially on crypto currency industry.

Not everyone has the same opportunity as we do so we shouldn't look down on them. Poor people also want to succeed but they are also fighting battles that we have no idea about. They aren't capable of investing because they are also struggling with their finances but for sure, but they also have the same dream and goal. We can easily say things that they should be doing but we aren't wearing the same shoes so we must respect the way they live.

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Many people like to own something but they don't have the capacity to acquire what they want because they are struggling financially. So don't just people on why they don't acquire things you have or they should supposed to be have since maybe they just have plan but for now they are just watching then see things will happen on them in future.

Lets erase that mindset but rather lets spread positive word about investment and other opportunity brought by it especially on crypto currency industry.

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I believe a lot of people here haven't experience poverty thus their judgement on poor people isn't fair enough, it's absolutely hard to convince a very poor person who couldn't afford to feed and eats from hand to mouth and doesn't know where the next meal will come from to invest in crypto, there sense of reasoning will be out of tune with what is on ground as regards investment, so it's a matter of defeating abject poverty first and attaining a financial freedom before thinking of any investment. It's everybody desire to invest any form of investment provided that there is excess and extra funds having catered for their basic needs.

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Quote from: RockBell on December 29, 2022, 03:51:36 PM

As you said, the poor are difficult to convince, so the best you can do is offer advice. If they reject the choice, the consequences are their responsibility to bear is a free world with a free choice. The poor always have excuses, especially when it comes to investing. They believe it is unimportant to do so, which is actually a dangerous way to think. They will always learn the hard way.

Being poor is relative and so also being rich. A rich man must be able to afford 3 square meal. A rich man is assumed to already have a steady flow of income. He can afford to use some percentage of his earnings for investment and if that fails, it may not affect him. But this cannot be said about a poor man who bearly eats a day.
He would be very fearful and protective of the little he has and he shouldn't be blamed for doing so.

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Quote from: RockBell on December 29, 2022, 03:51:36 PM

As you said, the poor are difficult to convince, so the best you can do is offer advice. If they reject the choice, the consequences are their responsibility to bear is a free world with a free choice. The poor always have excuses, especially when it comes to investing. They believe it is unimportant to do so, which is actually a dangerous way to think. They will always learn the hard way.

If you can't have 3 meals a day, will you invest and where will you get the money to invest? You are not them, and you have not been through what they are going through. If you can't help them, don't say such harsh words. You think only you know how to invest to get rich? None of us want to be poor but sometimes circumstances don't allow them to do so.

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Quote from: JoyMarsha on December 25, 2022, 08:50:45 AM

No matter how hard you try, poor people can be difficult to persuade to accept and invest in bitcoin, according to my crypto knowledge and people's enlightenment. They vehemently criticize whatever you show them or introduce them to. They are the ones who constantly inquire about how you manage your funds in order to live during this economic downturn.

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The worst people to serve are the Poor people. Give them free, they think it's a trap. Tell them it's a small investment, they'll say can't earn much. Tell them to come in big, they'll say no money. Tell them try new things, they'll say no experience. Tell them it's traditional business, they'll say hard to do. Tell them it's a new business model, they'll say it's MLM. Tell them to run a shop, they'll say no freedom. Tell them run new business, they'll say no expertise.

They do have some things in common:

listen to friends who are as hopeless as them, they think more than a university professor and do less than a blind man.

How can we persuade the poor that without making investments and taking risks, they would not succeed in life? If they are looking for a financial breakthrough, they need become involved with anything because good things in life don't just fall into their laps. Life is about taking chances and seizing any opportunity that presents itself.

Most of them wants to, but they don't have the money to do so. Some of them have trust issues, because they maybe borrowed some money to invest but they got scammed instead. We all have our own reasons why we don't want to invest on someone or something, and we can't force anyone to do what we do. It's our job to answer their questions regarding about cryptocurrency but it's their job to believe and to risk just like what we are doing.

Forcing someone to believe in cryptocurrency will not last long in the blockchain world, because they started unprepared with only a little knowledge about cryptocurrency.

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Quote from: South Park on December 29, 2022, 03:30:44 PM

Quote from: batang_bitcoin on December 29, 2022, 03:01:54 PM

They need a helping hand and if someone who has never been poor before, you may not understand what the actual situation is.
Words can be hurtful when you're talking to one of them and even you give the best advice in the world about investing. You just can't compare your situation to theirs. And that's because you're not experiencing the true hardship of being poor, they want to invest as well and be well in life but just can't because they can't afford to delay the crumbling of their stomachs.

The OP was a little hard on poor people, I agree on that, and while it is true that it can be difficult to convince them when it comes to matters related to money, that is to be expected, after all the poor need to take care of their money as they have so little of it, so they are not easily convinced to part with it, besides I do not think bitcoin is the best place for them to invest their money as at the first drop on the price they will get scared and they will want to sell their coins, so it is better they use whatever savings they may have to create a small business and try to increase their income this way.

Yes, we are not in their situation, we never know what they are going through, we should not reprimand them or show contempt when they do not listen to our advice, or do not invest. If we can't help them, please don't look down on them.
And you're right, it's hard for the poor to make money, unlike us, so I would never recommend bitcoin to them either., they are not suitable for risky investments like bitcoin. Even we are investing in bitcoin, but none of us can guarantee 100% bitcoin will bring us profit, giving advice to others is not a wise decision.

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In this life we often give an idea to others be it the poor or the rich, but if the problem is bitcoin not everyone will believe it because the money we get takes a process and is not easily reached by people who do not understand the crypto world, and they often underestimate us and when we give advice they do not care and consider the crypto world unclear and there are many scams, if we care about something that can indeed make money then I am sure that very few poor people today,because there are many things we can do without sweating but can get so much money.

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Quote from: Viscore on December 30, 2022, 07:39:37 PM

Quote from: LoyceMobile on December 25, 2022, 08:59:56 AM

That's quite inconsiderate. Can you imagine many people don't have the luxury to invest because at the end of the month they only have debts left?

The richer you are, the more risk you can afford to take without going hungry or homeless when your investments fail.

Poor people would always want to invest if there are chances to invest, and they have the sufficient funds to invest. But they lack the whole resources to invest, and all they could have are just plans but failed to realized because they were not given the same opportunities with those who are living good life. So we can’t actually blame them for that because they have their own valid reasons.

I have seen many poor people with more talent and less resources. They try to find ways out in less money.
And I have seen many rich people with excuses all the time. . . smart work is the key to success and there is space for the excuses.

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Quote from: LoyceMobile on December 25, 2022, 08:59:56 AM

That's quite inconsiderate. Can you imagine many people don't have the luxury to invest because at the end of the month they only have debts left?

The richer you are, the more risk you can afford to take without going hungry or homeless when your investments fail.

Poor people would always want to invest if there are chances to invest, and they have the sufficient funds to invest. But they lack the whole resources to invest, and all they could have are just plans but failed to realized because they were not given the same opportunities with those who are living good life. So we can’t actually blame them for that because they have their own valid reasons.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on December 29, 2022, 04:23:38 PM

Quote from: RockBell on December 29, 2022, 03:51:36 PM

As you said, the poor are difficult to convince, so the best you can do is offer advice. If they reject the choice, the consequences are their responsibility to bear is a free world with a free choice. The poor always have excuses, especially when it comes to investing. They believe it is unimportant to do so, which is actually a dangerous way to think. They will always learn the hard way.

If you do know someone which is poor and not to brag out about your financial condition but there are times that you are really that minding nor being concern.Here's a situation where i do tend to share up some

opportunity into my friend which i do really know that he had some hardship on making money or trying out to survive on day to day basis due to lack of income or sources for him to survive at least.
There are really people who cant just make themselves accept on new opportunity that had been introduced by someone.Dont know if they are really just that close minded
or doesnt really care because they dont really have the money on doing so.This is why we cant really make out that conclusion that they are really that dumb
into these opportunities.

Indeed, if we try to offer them a sideline job that does not need to spend any money. I believe they will grab it without hesitation.

Look, they are already in hardship in providing themselves food and payment for due. Then we will tell them to make an investment in this thing that needs to wait years before they can see the result. I would also decline this offer if you wanted me to spend extra money while I am in trouble in providing myself with my basic needs.

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Quote from: South Park on December 29, 2022, 03:30:44 PM

Quote from: batang_bitcoin on December 29, 2022, 03:01:54 PM

They need a helping hand and if someone who has never been poor before, you may not understand what the actual situation is.
Words can be hurtful when you're talking to one of them and even you give the best advice in the world about investing. You just can't compare your situation to theirs. And that's because you're not experiencing the true hardship of being poor, they want to invest as well and be well in life but just can't because they can't afford to delay the crumbling of their stomachs.

The OP was a little hard on poor people, I agree on that, and while it is true that it can be difficult to convince them when it comes to matters related to money, that is to be expected, after all the poor need to take care of their money as they have so little of it, so they are not easily convinced to part with it, besides I do not think bitcoin is the best place for them to invest their money as at the first drop on the price they will get scared and they will want to sell their coins, so it is better they use whatever savings they may have to create a small business and try to increase their income this way.

He surely is. I was that type of person before that thinks what's best for people. But after learning that it just can't happen as quick as it can based on their situation and day to day living. You'll have to understand that it's not that really easy at all. Especially for those people that have been really working hard but still sees that what they do isn't enough, what's more for them to push through? And before giving some suggestions asking them what they want to invest, I'll hear them out on what they know about investing. We have different appetites towards investing and we may like bitcoin but not them although it's likely that they've got something better out of their minds on how they can come out of poverty. I know that they're the best hustlers but let's understand the situation first.

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