Primedice is very legit.
I have had winning streaks on PD that lasted over 7 days. (~1.25 hours average playing per day)
You need to know how to start slow and control the risk.
Topic: The Primedice Is Rigged Thread - page 3. (Read 4599 times)
you have to be kidding right? an 11 lose streak at %40.....
http://prntscr.com/6i64nn
sorry i dont ever count reds but 11 is nothing
that was from faucet btw
http://prntscr.com/6i64nn
sorry i dont ever count reds but 11 is nothing
that was from faucet btw
Haha you know what's funny. Added a dude on Skype and was also complaining about it being rigged. Keep in mind he is positive alot and recently won 2 BTC from 0.05. Never experienced losses but still says:
"cuz we all know its rigged af"
Isn't that funny?
"cuz we all know its rigged af"
Isn't that funny?
You really could as well close this thread, OP. You won't get anywhere without proof and the longer you continue this discussion the more PD supporters will leave their positive opinions, so you'll be indirectly promoting them. I for instance had a bigger losing streak than you, but you can also find people with 10 or more wins in a row.
I'm doing my best to stay professional here. We know the facts: there's a house edge, you get alot of volume, but also all players hit weird streaks much more and weirdly often than other websites. That's a fact. As Ryan said, the provably fair system doesn't "100%" prove it to be fair.
I believe you misunderstood my point. PD has done its part by making the site provably fair, now the onus is on you to catch them cheating.
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Another weird suspicion is how Primedice 3 took almost half year to come out with. I remember PD3 being talked about in early January 2014 actually. Nothing changed except tips and the layout. The rolls also got slower. I think that's it. So, what took you guys so long? Just making the new layout?
This is a weird line of reasoning.
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I don't think so, I think you kept delaying and delaying because of my accusation. Something's changed and I know it.
I'm sure you mean well, but you can't trust yourself. The brain is deceiving and notoriously bad at this sort of stuff. It sees patterns were there are none, and misses the statistically blindingly obvious things. You need to do some real statistical analysis before you can rule either way.Do yourself (and PD) a favor, and dig into the technical details of the provably fair scheme and try prove they are cheating. If you can't prove they're cheating, they're probably honest.
Hey Stunna,
I'm doing my best to stay professional here. We know the facts: there's a house edge, you get alot of volume, but also all players hit weird streaks much more and weirdly often than other websites. That's a fact. As Ryan said, the provably fair system doesn't "100%" prove it to be fair.
Another weird suspicion is how Primedice 3 took almost half year to come out with. I remember PD3 being talked about in early January 2014 actually. Nothing changed except tips and the layout. The rolls also got slower. I think that's it. So, what took you guys so long? Just making the new layout? I don't think so, I think you kept delaying and delaying because of my accusation. Something's changed and I know it.
I told you, I lose on Primedice almost everyday. I'll keep uploading screenshots day after day to prove something. I'm still waiting for someone to prove this right, but you're smart enough to hide it well.
Don't get me wrong, I've seen tons of threads like the "lost 1 btc, PD is rigged". This is something I'm seeing overtime.
If I could prove that PD is a scam the same way that DiceBit got caught, then PD would be shutdown already. But you made it sneakier so there's no valid way to prove me right besides the crazy amount of loss streaks.
Now I'm really convinced you are butthurt after you lost. DiceBit skipped nonce which was obviously a scam. Primedice didnt skip nonce and everything checks out there are people who checks everything to make sure its fair. There are people who verify every single bet and no problems were found. If you have no evidence, please don't accuse Primedice of doing such things. You ain't gonna see happy faces on everyone when they come out of a real life casino. I'm doing my best to stay professional here. We know the facts: there's a house edge, you get alot of volume, but also all players hit weird streaks much more and weirdly often than other websites. That's a fact. As Ryan said, the provably fair system doesn't "100%" prove it to be fair.
Another weird suspicion is how Primedice 3 took almost half year to come out with. I remember PD3 being talked about in early January 2014 actually. Nothing changed except tips and the layout. The rolls also got slower. I think that's it. So, what took you guys so long? Just making the new layout? I don't think so, I think you kept delaying and delaying because of my accusation. Something's changed and I know it.
I told you, I lose on Primedice almost everyday. I'll keep uploading screenshots day after day to prove something. I'm still waiting for someone to prove this right, but you're smart enough to hide it well.
Don't get me wrong, I've seen tons of threads like the "lost 1 btc, PD is rigged". This is something I'm seeing overtime.
If I could prove that PD is a scam the same way that DiceBit got caught, then PD would be shutdown already. But you made it sneakier so there's no valid way to prove me right besides the crazy amount of loss streaks.
losing 16 in a row is normal even if you are betting on x2
thats why martinagle sucks
thats why martinagle sucks
I don't see anything strange in the games,with 2.5x is not so difficult to have that situation
Just another idiot that doesnt understand provably fair and how it works.
Hey Stunna,
I'm doing my best to stay professional here. We know the facts: there's a house edge, you get alot of volume, but also all players hit weird streaks much more and weirdly often than other websites. That's a fact. As Ryan said, the provably fair system doesn't "100%" prove it to be fair.
Another weird suspicion is how Primedice 3 took almost half year to come out with. I remember PD3 being talked about in early January 2014 actually. Nothing changed except tips and the layout. The rolls also got slower. I think that's it. So, what took you guys so long? Just making the new layout? I don't think so, I think you kept delaying and delaying because of my accusation. Something's changed and I know it.
I told you, I lose on Primedice almost everyday. I'll keep uploading screenshots day after day to prove something. I'm still waiting for someone to prove this right, but you're smart enough to hide it well.
Don't get me wrong, I've seen tons of threads like the "lost 1 btc, PD is rigged". This is something I'm seeing overtime.
If I could prove that PD is a scam the same way that DiceBit got caught, then PD would be shutdown already. But you made it sneakier so there's no valid way to prove me right besides the crazy amount of loss streaks.
I'm doing my best to stay professional here. We know the facts: there's a house edge, you get alot of volume, but also all players hit weird streaks much more and weirdly often than other websites. That's a fact. As Ryan said, the provably fair system doesn't "100%" prove it to be fair.
Another weird suspicion is how Primedice 3 took almost half year to come out with. I remember PD3 being talked about in early January 2014 actually. Nothing changed except tips and the layout. The rolls also got slower. I think that's it. So, what took you guys so long? Just making the new layout? I don't think so, I think you kept delaying and delaying because of my accusation. Something's changed and I know it.
I told you, I lose on Primedice almost everyday. I'll keep uploading screenshots day after day to prove something. I'm still waiting for someone to prove this right, but you're smart enough to hide it well.
Don't get me wrong, I've seen tons of threads like the "lost 1 btc, PD is rigged". This is something I'm seeing overtime.
If I could prove that PD is a scam the same way that DiceBit got caught, then PD would be shutdown already. But you made it sneakier so there's no valid way to prove me right besides the crazy amount of loss streaks.
You sound like a crazy conspiracist. I'm sure if PD did something sketch, you'd have found something by now since it seems like you have invested a lot of time into proving Stunna is a operating a cheat website.
You probably have seen a lot of pd threads with people complaining that they've lost 1 BTC and it's rigged because they lost 12 in a row. That's because negative events tend to be remembered in a more accurate fashion than positive events. Also the majority of the big winners on PD rarely post a thread on bitcointalk because they don't feel the need to boast and probably don't want a bunch of people begging them for money. I could be bias on that though, since I'm up a few coins on PD and very few people know for those exact reasons.
I think primedice is 100 percent legit from my experience. Its a gambling site I don't understand why people get mad when they loose its going to happen that's why they call it gambling.
Hey Stunna,
I'm doing my best to stay professional here. We know the facts: there's a house edge, you get alot of volume, but also all players hit weird streaks much more and weirdly often than other websites. That's a fact. As Ryan said, the provably fair system doesn't "100%" prove it to be fair.
Another weird suspicion is how Primedice 3 took almost half year to come out with. I remember PD3 being talked about in early January 2014 actually. Nothing changed except tips and the layout. The rolls also got slower. I think that's it. So, what took you guys so long? Just making the new layout? I don't think so, I think you kept delaying and delaying because of my accusation. Something's changed and I know it.
I told you, I lose on Primedice almost everyday. I'll keep uploading screenshots day after day to prove something. I'm still waiting for someone to prove this right, but you're smart enough to hide it well.
Don't get me wrong, I've seen tons of threads like the "lost 1 btc, PD is rigged". This is something I'm seeing overtime.
If I could prove that PD is a scam the same way that DiceBit got caught, then PD would be shutdown already. But you made it sneakier so there's no valid way to prove me right besides the crazy amount of loss streaks.
I'm doing my best to stay professional here. We know the facts: there's a house edge, you get alot of volume, but also all players hit weird streaks much more and weirdly often than other websites. That's a fact. As Ryan said, the provably fair system doesn't "100%" prove it to be fair.
Another weird suspicion is how Primedice 3 took almost half year to come out with. I remember PD3 being talked about in early January 2014 actually. Nothing changed except tips and the layout. The rolls also got slower. I think that's it. So, what took you guys so long? Just making the new layout? I don't think so, I think you kept delaying and delaying because of my accusation. Something's changed and I know it.
I told you, I lose on Primedice almost everyday. I'll keep uploading screenshots day after day to prove something. I'm still waiting for someone to prove this right, but you're smart enough to hide it well.
Don't get me wrong, I've seen tons of threads like the "lost 1 btc, PD is rigged". This is something I'm seeing overtime.
If I could prove that PD is a scam the same way that DiceBit got caught, then PD would be shutdown already. But you made it sneakier so there's no valid way to prove me right besides the crazy amount of loss streaks.
You've clearly completely ignored my post and have absolutely no understanding of provable fairness. I'm done arguing here.
Hey Stunna,
I'm doing my best to stay professional here. We know the facts: there's a house edge, you get alot of volume, but also all players hit weird streaks much more and weirdly often than other websites. That's a fact. As Ryan said, the provably fair system doesn't "100%" prove it to be fair.
Another weird suspicion is how Primedice 3 took almost half year to come out with. I remember PD3 being talked about in early January 2014 actually. Nothing changed except tips and the layout. The rolls also got slower. I think that's it. So, what took you guys so long? Just making the new layout? I don't think so, I think you kept delaying and delaying because of my accusation. Something's changed and I know it.
I told you, I lose on Primedice almost everyday. I'll keep uploading screenshots day after day to prove something. I'm still waiting for someone to prove this right, but you're smart enough to hide it well.
Don't get me wrong, I've seen tons of threads like the "lost 1 btc, PD is rigged". This is something I'm seeing overtime.
If I could prove that PD is a scam the same way that DiceBit got caught, then PD would be shutdown already. But you made it sneakier so there's no valid way to prove me right besides the crazy amount of loss streaks.
I'm doing my best to stay professional here. We know the facts: there's a house edge, you get alot of volume, but also all players hit weird streaks much more and weirdly often than other websites. That's a fact. As Ryan said, the provably fair system doesn't "100%" prove it to be fair.
Another weird suspicion is how Primedice 3 took almost half year to come out with. I remember PD3 being talked about in early January 2014 actually. Nothing changed except tips and the layout. The rolls also got slower. I think that's it. So, what took you guys so long? Just making the new layout? I don't think so, I think you kept delaying and delaying because of my accusation. Something's changed and I know it.
I told you, I lose on Primedice almost everyday. I'll keep uploading screenshots day after day to prove something. I'm still waiting for someone to prove this right, but you're smart enough to hide it well.
Don't get me wrong, I've seen tons of threads like the "lost 1 btc, PD is rigged". This is something I'm seeing overtime.
If I could prove that PD is a scam the same way that DiceBit got caught, then PD would be shutdown already. But you made it sneakier so there's no valid way to prove me right besides the crazy amount of loss streaks.
"The I lost ten times in a row so this website is rigged thread"
But seriously, this type of accusation is 100% baseless and disrespectful. Provably fair exists for a reason, I strongly recommend cease stop gambling forever if you cannot handle variance. You do realize Primedice paid out a single individual 2400-2500 coins which he won over a period of months, if we had intentions to rig bets wouldn't we have gone after him not your bitcent bets? Recently a user turned 0.05 to 175 coins (seriously) and after losing 20-30 coins or so he claimed the website was rigged for a brief period of time. If these claims aren't unfair I don't know what is. Primedice is currently taking in around 90% week over week of all dicing volume, there is simply no incentive for us to cheat when we have a house edge. You would be hard-pressed to find a more trustworthy gaming option in all of bitcoin.
Learn how provable fairness works and verify your bets. I'm not going to waste more time in the future defending against these types of accusations, we've proven our trustworthiness and have put in as perfect of a system as possible to let users verify fairness.
There are just so many points to attack your argument from and I simply don't have the time. With all due respect, you need to look at the facts, verify your bets, and lock this blind accusation thread.
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Instead of reading my redundant argument, mathematically prove the bets were fair:
http://dicesites.com/provably-fair
http://primedice.com/verify
Thanks
But seriously, this type of accusation is 100% baseless and disrespectful. Provably fair exists for a reason, I strongly recommend cease stop gambling forever if you cannot handle variance. You do realize Primedice paid out a single individual 2400-2500 coins which he won over a period of months, if we had intentions to rig bets wouldn't we have gone after him not your bitcent bets? Recently a user turned 0.05 to 175 coins (seriously) and after losing 20-30 coins or so he claimed the website was rigged for a brief period of time. If these claims aren't unfair I don't know what is. Primedice is currently taking in around 90% week over week of all dicing volume, there is simply no incentive for us to cheat when we have a house edge. You would be hard-pressed to find a more trustworthy gaming option in all of bitcoin.
Learn how provable fairness works and verify your bets. I'm not going to waste more time in the future defending against these types of accusations, we've proven our trustworthiness and have put in as perfect of a system as possible to let users verify fairness.
There are just so many points to attack your argument from and I simply don't have the time. With all due respect, you need to look at the facts, verify your bets, and lock this blind accusation thread.
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Instead of reading my redundant argument, mathematically prove the bets were fair:
http://dicesites.com/provably-fair
http://primedice.com/verify
Thanks
With a legitimate provably fair system implemented, it is impossible for the casino to cheat.
A provably fair system does not make it impossible for the casino to cheat, rather it makes it impossible for the casino to undetectably cheat.
I believe the distinction is worth emphasising, as so few people actually take the steps to properly verify their games and are be vulnerable to a casino specifically targeting them. DiceBitcoin seems to be an example of a provably fair casino that specifically targeted certain players in a stupid manner, and thankfully was caught.
@OP, the site already gives you the tools to verify if they are cheating or not. Before you gamble, record the server seed hash, set your own client seed and then start gambling. Now you have enough information to recreate the dice outcomes. If they're cheating, you now have the means to detect it.
Just the other day, I was experimenting a little on vault with some play money, and busted. I refilled my balance and tried again, and somehow amazingly worked my balance to 20,000x my original deposit! I was completely convinced I messed something up, but after hours of simulation and debugging I'm convinced I just happened to be extremely lucky. Crazy hard to believe streaks do happen, and the more you play the more likely you'll experience some.
aren't they all rigged. I prefer gambling on a live event like sports or btc price as software games can be easily rigged.
I trust Primedice, but i seem to have more luck on other sites 
Don't know if primedice is rigged, but it is definetely possible, nothing is 100% proof
Don't know if primedice is rigged, but it is definetely possible, nothing is 100% proof
Someone knows what is up. I'm not saying it's 100% rigged. I'm saying, there is even a smarter system going on there in the back. I've been playing here longer than most of you have and it's a trend I've been seeing. The stuff you guys are saying doesn't prove a thing. Stunna isn't trusted and that's a fact. If you trust him you either only played there a couple times, or give out trust too easily. You can tell the type of person someone is just by how they talk.
I trust Primedice, but i seem to have more luck on other sites
Don't know if primedice is rigged, but it is definetely possible, nothing is 100% proof
Don't know if primedice is rigged, but it is definetely possible, nothing is 100% proof
It's hard to lose so much money, I know that feelings. But that is nothing with the PD, you should stop blaming others instead of your bad luck. Opening fire to a most popular and well trusted site is nothing but wasting your times.
Anyway, let's see if Stunna would response to this.
Anyway, let's see if Stunna would response to this.
Only 11 losses in a row? I've seen people with 20+, who also came here and started the same conversation about it being rigged. I played there and lost just like you, but I have no proof of scam, so I keep my mouth shut. You could learn something from me. 
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