Topic: The Primedice Is Rigged Thread - page 4. (Read 4599 times)
provably fair verifier cant be faked and you can always win on a dice sites, someone will win alot and someone may bust all of their earnings, it is common, no one will be making a gambling sites if the house couldnt get profit, and stunna is not sketchy or shady because he always answer his customer well when they needed help
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Btw ranochigo Nice signature.
I see. Nice
Honestly who knows if its rigged or not. The problem is its impossible to get enough evidence to prove if its rigged or not because the chances are you can usually go on a huge losing streak as below.
Who knows? Maybe the sites use some algorithm that detects martingale players to clean them out. Either way its very difficult to prove.
Don't martingale, and if you do. Just do it across multiple dice sites and then you will know for sure if its a legit losing streak or you were being cheated.
You can verify every single bet to ensure that Primedice is not skipping nonce and the server seed checks out. The house pretty much have no chance to cheat if you do it this way. The problem here is you don't realised the house edge makes a difference, I have seen more than 20 lose streak at various dice sites and none of them is cheating. You are going to lose your bankroll eventually with martingale due to varience. Who knows? Maybe the sites use some algorithm that detects martingale players to clean them out. Either way its very difficult to prove.
Don't martingale, and if you do. Just do it across multiple dice sites and then you will know for sure if its a legit losing streak or you were being cheated.
agreed with you i had 16 winning streak on Primedice, gambling is all about good and bad luck,
Primedice has provably fair system and every single bet can be verified with that verification.
so that behavior is strange after losing streak.
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Btw ranochigo Nice signature.
Honestly who knows if its rigged or not. The problem is its impossible to get enough evidence to prove if its rigged or not because the chances are you can usually go on a huge losing streak as below.
Who knows? Maybe the sites use some algorithm that detects martingale players to clean them out. Either way its very difficult to prove.
Don't martingale, and if you do. Just do it across multiple dice sites and then you will know for sure if its a legit losing streak or you were being cheated.
You can verify every single bet to ensure that Primedice is not skipping nonce and the server seed checks out. The house pretty much have no chance to cheat if you do it this way. The problem here is you don't realised the house edge makes a difference, I have seen more than 20 lose streak at various dice sites and none of them is cheating. You are going to lose your bankroll eventually with martingale due to varience. Who knows? Maybe the sites use some algorithm that detects martingale players to clean them out. Either way its very difficult to prove.
Don't martingale, and if you do. Just do it across multiple dice sites and then you will know for sure if its a legit losing streak or you were being cheated.
You could also verify 999dice rolls as well but that site is still rigged ...
That's true, I don't verify every one of my roll either but PD is fair and I trust this site, I haven't been too lucky there but that doesn't mean that the site is rigged.
Btw ranochigo Nice signature.
Honestly who knows if its rigged or not. The problem is its impossible to get enough evidence to prove if its rigged or not because the chances are you can usually go on a huge losing streak as below.
Who knows? Maybe the sites use some algorithm that detects martingale players to clean them out. Either way its very difficult to prove.
Don't martingale, and if you do. Just do it across multiple dice sites and then you will know for sure if its a legit losing streak or you were being cheated.
You can verify every single bet to ensure that Primedice is not skipping nonce and the server seed checks out. The house pretty much have no chance to cheat if you do it this way. The problem here is you don't realised the house edge makes a difference, I have seen more than 20 lose streak at various dice sites and none of them is cheating. You are going to lose your bankroll eventually with martingale due to varience. Who knows? Maybe the sites use some algorithm that detects martingale players to clean them out. Either way its very difficult to prove.
Don't martingale, and if you do. Just do it across multiple dice sites and then you will know for sure if its a legit losing streak or you were being cheated.
agreed with you i had 16 winning streak on Primedice, gambling is all about good and bad luck,
Primedice has provably fair system and every single bet can be verified with that verification.
so that behavior is strange after losing streak.
There are some easy-to-use external verifiers such as http://dicesites.com/primedice/verifier and http://rgbkey.github.io/verify/PrimeDice/.
Or you can calculator the sha512 yourself according to the scheme in https://primedice.com/verify.
Honestly who knows if its rigged or not. The problem is its impossible to get enough evidence to prove if its rigged or not because the chances are you can usually go on a huge losing streak as below.
Who knows? Maybe the sites use some algorithm that detects martingale players to clean them out. Either way its very difficult to prove.
Don't martingale, and if you do. Just do it across multiple dice sites and then you will know for sure if its a legit losing streak or you were being cheated.
You can verify every single bet to ensure that Primedice is not skipping nonce and the server seed checks out. The house pretty much have no chance to cheat if you do it this way. The problem here is you don't realised the house edge makes a difference, I have seen more than 20 lose streak at various dice sites and none of them is cheating. You are going to lose your bankroll eventually with martingale due to varience. Who knows? Maybe the sites use some algorithm that detects martingale players to clean them out. Either way its very difficult to prove.
Don't martingale, and if you do. Just do it across multiple dice sites and then you will know for sure if its a legit losing streak or you were being cheated.
agreed with you i had 16 winning streak on Primedice, gambling is all about good and bad luck,
Primedice has provably fair system and every single bet can be verified with that verification.
so that behavior is strange after losing streak.
You call scam to the oldest bitcoin dice site after a year and a half of playing there everyday lol Why so soon?
Firstly sorry you have had a run of bad luck but i am afraid when gambling this is what happens and there is only one thing you can do about it and that is obviously stop playing.
There is no need for this thread if it was truly rigged it would not be one on the biggest and longest standing dice games would it people would just not play it that is fact you are actually the first hate i have seen towards it if i am honest.
If i was you i would stop playing all sites.
Firstly sorry you have had a run of bad luck but i am afraid when gambling this is what happens and there is only one thing you can do about it and that is obviously stop playing.
There is no need for this thread if it was truly rigged it would not be one on the biggest and longest standing dice games would it people would just not play it that is fact you are actually the first hate i have seen towards it if i am honest.
If i was you i would stop playing all sites.
i dont think PrimeDice got some magic hidden in the back.. there are so many 100BTC club members (100BTC+ in profit) and ofcourse the famous HufflePuff winning 2000BTC+, so i think PD is fair on their players..
It has been said thousands of times already, HufflePuff was using an exploit, cheating, he wasnt lucky.
This whole topic seems pointless to me. I wonder how many replies it would have gotten if signature campaigns didn't exist...
i dont think PrimeDice got some magic hidden in the back.. there are so many 100BTC club members (100BTC+ in profit) and ofcourse the famous HufflePuff winning 2000BTC+, so i think PD is fair on their players..
Another thing that happens if one casino is rigged is that you may be able to exploit it. Like for example if they are predicting your patterns, change them outpredict their predictions?
First, the loss streak doesn't show the site is rigged.
Plus, it is not rare to lose 11 2.5x bets in a row. I have personally had a 14 2x bets streak and a few more 11 or 12 2x streak.
BTW, on JD, the longest winning streak at 49.5% is 30 and the longest losing streak is 32.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7060900
EDIT: fixed a stupid typo.
Plus, it is not rare to lose 11 2.5x bets in a row. I have personally had a 14 2x bets streak and a few more 11 or 12 2x streak.
BTW, on JD, the longest winning streak at 49.5% is 30 and the longest losing streak is 32.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7060900
EDIT: fixed a stupid typo.
Do you notice any change in your server seed or client seed?
Do you notice any skipping of nonce?
Do you notice any mismatch of the hashes and the rolled numbers?
If the answers are all "no", then you were just having a bad luck.
Do you notice any skipping of nonce?
Do you notice any mismatch of the hashes and the rolled numbers?
If the answers are all "no", then you were just having a bad luck.
Pretty much this to be honest. Before the invention of bitcoin, i dont recall anywhere online where i could gamble and verify i haven't been cheated. Bitcoin gambling is by no means perfect, but a massive improvement on what we've been used to as gamblers.
Thats true. Here is the thing, real life casinos have been existing for a long time where you can play roulette and watch it spin, you knew it wasnt rigged even some players abused the roulettes because they werent perfect but in the end the casinos would still win, thats the thing the casinos always win, its a fact they dont need to be rigged to win because all the casinos are rigged in a way, the house edge. Honestly if you wanted to prove they are rigged that pic you posted is definitely not enough, if you posted a pic of like a 50 lose streak on 50% it would have been a strong proof.
Do you notice any change in your server seed or client seed?
Do you notice any skipping of nonce?
Do you notice any mismatch of the hashes and the rolled numbers?
If the answers are all "no", then you were just having a bad luck.
Do you notice any skipping of nonce?
Do you notice any mismatch of the hashes and the rolled numbers?
If the answers are all "no", then you were just having a bad luck.
Pretty much this to be honest. Before the invention of bitcoin, i dont recall anywhere online where i could gamble and verify i haven't been cheated. Bitcoin gambling is by no means perfect, but a massive improvement on what we've been used to as gamblers.
I can agree or disagree with you because I have no evidence to back it up. However, I remember having a big loss streak on 66% a few minutes after I deposited which ended resulting in a -0.56 profit. My account is still saying at -0.56 loss which is sad. I started using other dice sites like dadice because of their faucet levels. My primedice faucet is at 2.7k right now after 2 months and my dadice faucet is at 4k after a few days! I recommend you trying out new dice sites and then compare it to primedice to see which one you like better. Cheers!
If Primedice were rigged, the exploit Hufflepuff used wouldn't have worked. The seeds are exactly the same as they should be. I recommend you to check and confirm the seeds. It was most likely your own fault for losses inflicted.
you don't need to manipulate seeds to make it rigged.
just like i said earlier 999 seeds matched up fine and their site was rigged.
DiceBitcoin skipped nonces that has nothing to do with knowing seeds
999Dice is a unique case because of the odd way that the provably fair system worked. You had to make a manual request before your bet in order to see the seed; if you didn't, then you'll just have to believe the casino. No other sites that I'm aware of do this.
If Primedice were rigged, the exploit Hufflepuff used wouldn't have worked. The seeds are exactly the same as they should be. I recommend you to check and confirm the seeds. It was most likely your own fault for losses inflicted.
I mean a small little page of some numbers (verification page) doesn't prove much.
To be honest, this isn't true. Provably fair mechanisms and their verifiers prove everything if you understand how to use them. With a legitimate provably fair system implemented, it is impossible for the casino to cheat.
What you are likely seeing is just variance. With a tiny 1% house edge, massive swings are far from uncommon. Make enough bets, and you will eventually have a massive losing streak. Remember that there are absolutely no patters whatsoever in randomness -- every single bet is independent of the last, and this is why many betting systems are flawed.
If the casino has a legitimate provably fair mechanism, it is unfair to say it is rigged. I haven't actually had a look at the system used myself, but I assume someone else would have by now. If that maths is right, then it's probably not a scam (in telling outcome of bets, at least -- the site could still run with your deposits).
Honestly who knows if its rigged or not. The problem is its impossible to get enough evidence to prove if its rigged or not because the chances are you can usually go on a huge losing streak as below.
Who knows? Maybe the sites use some algorithm that detects martingale players to clean them out. Either way its very difficult to prove.
Don't martingale, and if you do. Just do it across multiple dice sites and then you will know for sure if its a legit losing streak or you were being cheated.
You can verify every single bet to ensure that Primedice is not skipping nonce and the server seed checks out. The house pretty much have no chance to cheat if you do it this way. The problem here is you don't realised the house edge makes a difference, I have seen more than 20 lose streak at various dice sites and none of them is cheating. You are going to lose your bankroll eventually with martingale due to varience. Who knows? Maybe the sites use some algorithm that detects martingale players to clean them out. Either way its very difficult to prove.
Don't martingale, and if you do. Just do it across multiple dice sites and then you will know for sure if its a legit losing streak or you were being cheated.
You could also verify 999dice rolls as well but that site is still rigged ...
If PD is rigged, there won't be so much 100 Bitcoins club members on PD, It's always a question of PD's fairness, but PD is still the most popular and accepted dice site in the community.
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