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Quote from: Moreno233 on June 12, 2024, 01:01:07 PM

Whenever I win, I usually feel this strong urge to gamble more and also increase the amount I'm using to gamble. I do fall for this urge most times and the result is always disastrous as I end up losing the money I won with great pain and regrets. The only time I can say I have won is when I make withdrawals and possibly use the money for something else.

Well, I think this is greediness that you want to win more by gambling more. It is important for you to have control over your emotions else this can hurt you very badly. The good thing is that upon losing you only feel the pain but you do not try to recover the losses or do revenge gambling, or else you may be losing more money. Huh

I guess you should stop gambling for some time and try to engage yourself in other activities because if you keep on doing what you are doing now, you can end up getting addicted.

Quote from: Moreno233 on June 12, 2024, 01:01:07 PM

As long as the money is still in the platform, there is a high chance of using it to gamble more. I decided to create this topic to see how other people manage their winning in gambling. If I notice a better approach, I will switch immediately as I don't want to continue experiencing the pain of winning and later losing the money again.

I think you are addicted or near to gambling addiction as you are not able to control yourself if you have money in your bankroll. I do not think it is only because you have money in gambling site. Try to withdraw the money out of gambling site but do not use it. Then see yourself if you feel like having to gamble again and you deposit the money again in the site or not ?

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As far as the funds is still with the gambling site and not in your bank or your wallet, it does not belong to you, but the gambling site. Anything can happen, and beyond you gambling and loosing it back, your account can be banned or locked out by the casino and you loose the money temporarily or permanently in the process. There was a time my computer crashed and I didn't remember the definite email I used for a particular casino account since my logins were saved on my browser. I was temporarily unable to utilize the funds I had in that account until many weeks later when I accidentally stumbled on the piece of paper I wrote out the associated email and its password.

As soon as the wins are available, you can only lay claims to it when it has been withdrawn by you, else calling it your funds is another pattern of deceiving yourself. To avoid the regrets that comes with had I known, withdraw it and keep your peace.

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The only remedy to your case OP, which is a general virus among Gamblers, is having control and being intentional about your actions thus power over greed, having a plan concerning withdrawal after a win, and allowing the initial deposit this will help and ensure a stable phase of funds flowing during a win or loss.
We need to be more disciplined to resist such urge anytime it arises.

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Quote from: Moreno233 on June 12, 2024, 01:01:07 PM

Whenever I win, I usually feel this strong urge to gamble more and also increase the amount I'm using to gamble. I do fall for this urge most times and the result is always disastrous as I end up losing the money I won with great pain and regrets. The only time I can say I have won is when I make withdrawals and possibly use the money for something else. As long as the money is still in the platform, there is a high chance of using it to gamble more. I decided to create this topic to see how other people manage their winning in gambling. If I notice a better approach, I will switch immediately as I don't want to continue experiencing the pain of winning and later losing the money again.

We all are in thesame shoes, there is no other way to escape or switch to. The only thing to do is after winning, you pull out your some percentage of your winning and leave the rest in the betting site. For example you might pull out a bankroll of %80-90 and leave the rest in the app for staking. You are not the only one who is tempted to gamble all your winning. As a gambler when you win, the best thing to do is to withdraw your winning or better still use it pochase an asset that you will be happy each time you set your eyes on it, knowing what you used your winning bankroll wisely or for something important sothat it will motivate you more.

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Quote from: Moreno233 on June 12, 2024, 01:01:07 PM

Whenever I win, I usually feel this strong urge to gamble more and also increase the amount I'm using to gamble. I do fall for this urge most times and the result is always disastrous as I end up losing the money I won with great pain and regrets.

It’s just a norm with all gamblers as, I often have this same feeling too. There have only been few occasions when, after a win I don’t get to gamble again. I think that’s definitely me knowing what I want in exact but even then, I leave a little for tomorrow’s games if any or just let it be there. It’s better than having to find every time. At other times, I tried doubling on my wins and end up giving back to the house, bad choice.

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Quote from: Moreno233 on June 12, 2024, 01:01:07 PM

Whenever I win, I usually feel this strong urge to gamble more and also increase the amount I'm using to gamble. I do fall for this urge most times and the result is always disastrous as I end up losing the money I won with great pain and regrets. The only time I can say I have won is when I make withdrawals and possibly use the money for something else. As long as the money is still in the platform, there is a high chance of using it to gamble more. I decided to create this topic to see how other people manage their winning in gambling. If I notice a better approach, I will switch immediately as I don't want to continue experiencing the pain of winning and later losing the money again.

You got the right decision, don't wait for redundant wins that ended up losing in the future. Greed is our ultimate enemy with gambling, firstly we should learn how to avoid that kind of mindset in order to benefit from the advantages of winning. Sometimes it's the disadvantage when you can't control your greed, then we may fail on ourselves afterall we break our principles emotionally.

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In reality, what you say is very childish and immature, although it is everyone's main problem, at some point, in any situation in life, especially when we are young, but responsibilities come into our lives and we change.

What happens with the gambling game, why it has to be different, sometimes we think it's rocket science but no, the thing is that people put $100 in the Casino and want to run for $1000 and since they see the easy way, well If they earn $100, then run faster and faster, man, only run at the speed of your earnings.

A bet of $1 will lose 99%, or... etc % of the time, but it doesn't matter if you hold it 1000 times for example or 100 times, it depends on your skills, but you never hold it at 1:1 , because you bankrupt... Cool

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Quote from: Moreno233 on June 12, 2024, 01:01:07 PM

Whenever I win, I usually feel this strong urge to gamble more and also increase the amount I'm using to gamble. I do fall for this urge most times and the result is always disastrous as I end up losing the money I won with great pain and regrets. The only time I can say I have won is when I make withdrawals and possibly use the money for something else. As long as the money is still in the platform, there is a high chance of using it to gamble more. I decided to create this topic to see how other people manage their winning in gambling. If I notice a better approach, I will switch immediately as I don't want to continue experiencing the pain of winning and later losing the money again.

That's the daily problem of most of the gamblers. We get to win and we're not withdrawing the money that we've won and we gamble again and then we lose it, that's the problem that we can't beat but to think wisely every time that we have won some money. For those that can't do a favor for themselves, do it while you can and start withdrawing it. Choose the best crypto that won't be getting a lot of fees for every withdrawal that you do. Because I think that's one of the reasons why many gamblers don't withdraw their money, seeing the fees of withdrawal is making us too lazy to do ourselves a favor. But most of the casinos today have some other cryptos in support and that's why if you want to withdraw and gamble, do it in a crypto that has a cheap fee to whichever casino you are gambling with. That's the only approach that you can do to remove that laziness of withdrawal. And also, set yourself a withdrawable amount that's not too high at all because if you do so, every time you hit that target, you withdraw so it's a cumulative efforts on your own to help yourself out when you're winning.

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Quote from: Moreno233 on June 12, 2024, 01:01:07 PM

Whenever I win, I usually feel this strong urge to gamble more and also increase the amount I'm using to gamble. I do fall for this urge most times and the result is always disastrous as I end up losing the money I won with great pain and regrets. The only time I can say I have won is when I make withdrawals and possibly use the money for something else. As long as the money is still in the platform, there is a high chance of using it to gamble more. I decided to create this topic to see how other people manage their winning in gambling. If I notice a better approach, I will switch immediately as I don't want to continue experiencing the pain of winning and later losing the money again.

Of course, this is something that makes sense and is a real win. because, there are lots of people who actually win at gambling, but they don't get anything in real life. why?
because none of the results were withdrawn by them. So, the result of winning always all in is to gamble again in the hope of being able to win again many times with a larger nominal value, never mind, even though the margin is very small.

That's why, wouldn't it be better if you made a withdrawal when you already won? And even if the transfer fee is heavy, at least the money is set aside and its use is really strict, so that after winning a few times or within a certain period of time, you finally have to withdraw. In fact, this also has something to do with financial management when gambling, so the wiser we are, the better the results will be. It's not a good idea to put forward emotions and desires for a moment which will actually end bad things and failure.

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Quote from: Moreno233 on June 12, 2024, 01:01:07 PM

Whenever I win, I usually feel this strong urge to gamble more and also increase the amount I'm using to gamble. I do fall for this urge most times and the result is always disastrous as I end up losing the money I won with great pain and regrets. The only time I can say I have won is when I make withdrawals and possibly use the money for something else. As long as the money is still in the platform, there is a high chance of using it to gamble more. I decided to create this topic to see how other people manage their winning in gambling. If I notice a better approach, I will switch immediately as I don't want to continue experiencing the pain of winning and later losing the money again.

I have heard people complain about this same thing but not on the gambling platform but in the trading platform. There is this statement that you only win when you withdraw your trading profits from the exchange to your fiat account. If you keep making profits from trading and yet all the profits are still on the platform where you trade, there is every tendency that you keep trading with it and it is not a profit yet.

This same thing should be applicable to gambling. You only win if you withdraw your winnings from the gambling platform. I don't think that there is a better way to go about this than withdrawing your winnings.

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Even the pros of gambling say this stuff. We must be aware of how much we won and be satisfied with it. The only thing that hinders us from doing that is our greed. Gamblers tend to get greedy because they see green in their stats which I think is put there by gambling sites for a reason. As long as we know we have our winnings, the urge to gamble more will never stop.
I think I did twice where I didn't gamble for 2 days after a win. I withdrew it all and never left a single dollar in my account so that I wouldn't be urged to keep on playing. Also, I needed the rest because my eyes were hurting from the long day of playing slots.

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Quote from: Moreno233 on June 12, 2024, 01:01:07 PM

Whenever I win, I usually feel this strong urge to gamble more and also increase the amount I'm using to gamble. I do fall for this urge most times and the result is always disastrous as I end up losing the money I won with great pain and regrets. The only time I can say I have won is when I make withdrawals and possibly use the money for something else. As long as the money is still in the platform, there is a high chance of using it to gamble more. I decided to create this topic to see how other people manage their winning in gambling. If I notice a better approach, I will switch immediately as I don't want to continue experiencing the pain of winning and later losing the money again.

Gambling is all about winning and losing, and the moment you realize this to be the true nature and reality in gambling, the more likely you find peace and enjoy gambling the more.

What you said about the true win in gambling being when you have withdrawn the money, alot of persons might want to agree with you on this, or may even agree, but giving this a critical look, it is only true if you are not going to be gambling again forever.
But as long as you will still return another day to gamble, withdrawing your winning means nothing because when you come back to gamble again, you will definitely have to make a deposit, and there is still the chance that you might loss this money this time.

The only best strategy which I can think of is, after winning, you can decide to take a break, take out some money, best part of the winning and leave the rest in your account for use, continue gambling with what is left in your account, and also discipline yourself well enough not to increase your betting amount, this way, even if you are going to lose all the balance in your account, you have saved out something, and you also play for longer because you did not increase your bet amount.

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I'm not sure if we all do the same, when i win a big amount i withdraw but keep some balance in the site, let's say i keep close to the 5%, and wager that until bust, that way i have the feeling that i walked away with profit but at the same time i gamble more in case that another big win was around the corner. But in reality, i always bust that 5%, i have never gotten that big win back to back, but i know it will come if i keep trying.

I don't feel like that is a bad strategy at all, someday it will hit if i keep trying.

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Quote from: Moreno233 on June 12, 2024, 01:01:07 PM

Whenever I win, I usually feel this strong urge to gamble more and also increase the amount I'm using to gamble. I do fall for this urge most times and the result is always disastrous as I end up losing the money I won with great pain and regrets. The only time I can say I have won is when I make withdrawals and possibly use the money for something else. As long as the money is still in the platform, there is a high chance of using it to gamble more. I decided to create this topic to see how other people manage their winning in gambling. If I notice a better approach, I will switch immediately as I don't want to continue experiencing the pain of winning and later losing the money again.

Exactly!

The only way to win is to return the profits to the same place they came from: Your wallet!

I have already said in other topics that everyone should set a maximum limit for the amount they can win, in the same way that they set a maximum limit for the amount they can lose.

When this limit is reached, at least 50% of the balance must be withdrawn from the casino, or even all the profits obtained, returning to betting only with the initial balance (contribution).

But, you have to make this withdrawal correctly, because there is no point in withdrawing the profits from one casino and sending them to another in an attempt to multiply them again with a different game. This is as "wrong" as continuing to bet this profit in the same casino.

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Quote from: Moreno233 on June 12, 2024, 01:01:07 PM

I decided to create this topic to see how other people manage their winning in gambling. If I notice a better approach, I will switch immediately as I don't want to continue experiencing the pain of winning and later losing the money again.

Start playing with a goal in mind. For an example: if I double my bankroll, I'm satisfied, so I just quit. Then go to action. Start your gambling session, playing with money you can afford to lose, and pursuing that primary goal you had in mind. As soon as you double your initial bankroll, don't be greedy and don't think twice, just cashout your winnings, close the app or website and put that money into good use.

Weak the temptation in your heart by controlling your impulses and urgers for gambling. It's natural to feel tempted to continue gambling after winning some nice amount of money, because automatically we start thinking we can turn that sum of money into an even larger amount. However, that is the biggest mistake the gambler can commit, as you probably already know by your own experience. So avoid it at all costs, especially because you already know where it's going to end.

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Quote from: Chilwell on June 12, 2024, 05:55:18 PM

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Op I agree with you, the money that is in the gambling platform is not yours untill you withdraw it and use it to buy something else the money will use for another attractive games again and if your luck is not good that time again then you will lose all. So the best thing is to withdraw the wins and if your want to continue gambling then you remain the amount you want to use and withdraw the rest. So you will know that you won something.

In every aspect of our lives, the best part that is suppose to be used to justify an individual is the ending part. So the end justifies who we are. You can not say you are winning while you are still in the game and the money has not been withdrawn yet. In gambling, you only have rest of mind when you have been able to withdraw the money successfully. But when you have not seen or known what will going to happen in the end, your mouth will be shut of words and even if everybody is trying to get your attention, you will only be focused on what will happen to your money that you invest in gambling. You will feel disturbed,anxious and worried.
So even if you said you are winning, you just said it but in reality, you are not until you have made the withdrawal.

Finally getting your money out of the casino is indeed one way to say, you have won. Not only from your games but from the temptation of playing again and losing it to the casino. However, after withdrawal, don't try to deposit again, much better if you wait for some time to play again. It would be best to use some of your winnings to something valuable, like paying your bills, buy groceries and others.

If you set your target winnings before you deposit, stick to it. Once you achieved such winnings, don't think too much, just withdraw and play another time. Most gamblers failed on this because they will use their winnings to continue their games. And before they know it, it is already too late as they already used up all his bankroll.

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Yes, for me it isn't done or final until we stop and take it out of the gambling site, no matter how much we gain if we aren't stopping or withdrawing it then we couldn't say that we won since, there is still a chance that we would continue to gamble and lose it all.

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Quote from: Agbe on June 12, 2024, 02:44:18 PM

Op I agree with you, the money that is in the gambling platform is not yours untill you withdraw it and use it to buy something else the money will use for another attractive games again and if your luck is not good that time again then you will lose all. So the best thing is to withdraw the wins and if your want to continue gambling then you remain the amount you want to use and withdraw the rest. So you will know that you won something.

In every aspect of our lives, the best part that is suppose to be used to justify an individual is the ending part. So the end justifies who we are. You can not say you are winning while you are still in the game and the money has not been withdrawn yet. In gambling, you only have rest of mind when you have been able to withdraw the money successfully. But when you have not seen or known what will going to happen in the end, your mouth will be shut of words and even if everybody is trying to get your attention, you will only be focused on what will happen to your money that you invest in gambling. You will feel disturbed,anxious and worried.
So even if you said you are winning, you just said it but in reality, you are not until you have made the withdrawal.

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Quote from: Moreno233 on June 12, 2024, 01:01:07 PM

Whenever I win, I usually feel this strong urge to gamble more and also increase the amount I'm using to gamble. I do fall for this urge most times and the result is always disastrous as I end up losing the money I won with great pain and regrets. The only time I can say I have won is when I make withdrawals and possibly use the money for something else. As long as the money is still in the platform, there is a high chance of using it to gamble more. I decided to create this topic to see how other people manage their winning in gambling. If I notice a better approach, I will switch immediately as I don't want to continue experiencing the pain of winning and later losing the money again.

Well this is a common experience and I believe it's caused by man simple nature of greed because the moment you start getting greedy, the whole context of everything changes and before you know your aim starts increasing as you would no longer be calculating things under the same thought you original came with when you starting the gambling session initially. It's take a really high level of discipline to actually over comes things like this when gambling.

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Quote from: Moreno233 on June 12, 2024, 01:01:07 PM

Whenever I win, I usually feel this strong urge to gamble more and also increase the amount I'm using to gamble.

It doesn’t happen to only you, I guess it happens to most gamblers, because it happens to me also. When gambling and winning, you will think it’s your special day, and you should make use of the opportunity. You will find it very difficult to stop gambling until things change and you start losing back the amounts you have won before you realize you are supposed to stop. What I do tell people when gambling is to always know when to stop, even if you are winning, because the time will come when you will start losing.

Quote from: Moreno233 on June 12, 2024, 01:01:07 PM

As long as the money is still in the platform, there is a high chance of using it to gamble more.

You have to be disciplined when gambling. Whenever you make up your mind to stop gambling, you are not supposed to go back to it no matter what happens, because if you can keep on gambling, then there are high chances of losing the money back.

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