Topic: The reality of Merit (Read 760 times)

Completely disagree. You can go through the post history of the top 10, 20, 50, whatever most merited users, and find hundreds of posts from each one which haven't been merited. Further, not being "mundane" isn't necessarily a criteria I care about when awarding merit. Someone could provide an answer I already know - reading their post is not at all interesting to me, but they have spent time helping another user and that might be merit worthy. They might have put a lot of effort in to a guide that I don't need or talking about a topic I have no interest in. Again, both of these might be merit worthy, regardless of my own personal feelings of "mundaneness".

Every user who is currently "well known" started off as a newbie. Every user with "a lot of influence" started off with none. Every user on this list started with zero earned merit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;stats=topusersat.

They are well known because they are much more active in the forum and have a lot of influence in this forum, they seem to be in every trending topic in this forum and they are great contributors in this forum, I am not in any way trying to downplay their roles in this forum, afterall they are doing something that I personally have not been able to accomplish in my years in this forum, but you have to admit that people tend to merit every of their posts no matter how mundane. They deserve every single merit though.

Indeed those who complain or have negative mind set will never be able to keep up with this system and will eventually walk away. I myself have seen low rank members making constructive posts and this uneven distribution of merit indicated by OP does not exists in reality.

There are some users who started newbies when the merit system has implemented but they still managed to get a legendary rank. I know some but will not enumerate them but those are the ones who are contributing here in the forum in their own way.

I thought that this merit system blah blah blah thing has stopped already. The system will be 2 years on January 2020 and still there are newbies who are whining. It is like a government, if you don't want the rules they implement then either go to another country or accept it. It is the same with the forum. If you don't want the rules they implement then leave. Nobody cares with your whining nonsense

Oh god, please don't do this. Meta is cluttered enough already with all the "Why was I banned" threads, cryptohunter spam, and endless stats threads. If you flood meta with links to posts, more likely is you will just get put on ignore rather than receiving merit. If you are making or reading posts which you think are deserving of merit, link to them in this thread instead: [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source. Note that if you abuse this thread with spam posts you will be blacklisted from it.

Do these members get more merit because they are well known, or have they become well known because they have earned a lot of merit? I suspect it is the latter in most cases.

While I have to admit that well known members tend to get much more merits than newbies, I know for a fact that newbies with constructive posts gets their fair share of merits as well, the main merit givers tend to stick to particular sections of the forum and newbies tend to stick to another section and the sections where newbies usually posts are not usually seen or read by those who would merit their posts except maybe a few, for example in the Alternative Cryptocurrency Discussion thread, there is only one main merit giver and that's @tk808, but there are still exceptions to that because if your post is very constructive and helpful, it would get noticed by other members of the forum and they would merit it too.

The main problem that I can see with newbies is that their idea of a constructive post is very different from what experienced people in this forum see as constructive, a post took you some time to type doesn't mean that it is helpful nor constructive, it might just be an elaborate reproduction of another already existing post and an experienced member here wouldn't look twice at it talkless of meriting it.

As a newbie in the forum, just do your best to be helpful, make helpful and constructive posts and merits would never be an issue for you, that's a fact.

Merits are put in place to avoid alt accounts spamming and wreaking havoc in the forum.

If you cannot create a single good post to earn merits from and contribute anything substantial to the discussion then it's not the forum nor the merit system's problem but yours. If you think your post is good but did not receive sufficient attention and merit it deserves, you can always go to meta and link your post there, and merit sources will happily give you some merits if they think it deserves any.

There's no use complaining about things that are put in place as a standard when we don't even try the slightest to meet those. Merits are given where merits are due, and it's better than seeing this forum piled up with shitposters doing nothing but litter around the forum just to get a few extra pennies.

Sorry that you see this from your perspective but its not so. If it was something like that then the admins would have changed the system, its running for more than a year now I myself reached the self-made senior rank, will soon become self-made Hero and Legendary. I am pretty optimistic about it.

Whether you get merits or not depends a lot on your luck and how much merit sources have at the moment. There have been members who ranked up from newbie to much higher ranks. Check out the meta section and you will find some inspirational threads.

My collection can help but it is only helpful for OP if he want to improve and sharpen his English skills. That topic posted in this board but was removed to Off-topic, then less people see it.
Collections for someone who would like to improve English skills

Not what you think mate,  I think when your post are well constructed it will be meirted regardless of the rank you have. so I will advise you always make your post to meaningful, well composted and it should carried information along not just post because you want to post, but try and make your post educative to the community.....

Merits are for those deserving people.

Looking at your posts, it doesn't look good and more likely a shitpost or spam only.
Maybe you're just an alternative account ranting here using that account?

'Cause if you're really a beginner then why spend a time to rant about merits than learning how to make quality posts, learn blockchain and do effort?  

You just have 10 posts and activities spammin' the alt section, what do you expect? lol.  

I agree that for newbie is difficult in the beginning.
They are new users,  don't know other users in the forum and others don't know them.
Also,  they don't know much about btc and crypto and can't write good quality posts.
I suggest to OP to learn more about btc and crypto,  read posts from others and learn how much he can.
Also,  there are topics not related to crypto like sport,  gambling,  politics etc where he can share his experience and knowledge.
Finally,  please look for merit giveaway topics.

People don't like to read complaints.

OP, try to make others laugh, post something interesting that others did not know about, start a thread, usually opening posts get merited as long as they aren't copying old threads and asking the same questions that have been asked 10 times already.

I agree that people often merit people they know and like and people they've been merited by. This is normal human behaviour, you can't expect everything to be fair. Don't give up though!

OP clearly doesn't have a strong comprehension of English and its posts are mainly pointless questions or confirmations. I was expecting to have my wig blown off rather than the usual Google Translate bot stuff. Come back when you've got some juice to squirt in our faces

Merit is given for posting well. Merit is an inspiration. If someone gets merit, he'll try to post something better in the future. We know that there is something to be gained by giving something. So if you give something to the forum you will definitely get merit. You can gift some good posts to this forum. You can help members of this forum with information. Then you will get merit.

When the merit system was introduced, there was also a time where I thought merits are only distributed to few members but I learned that it's not the case. I don't know if it's self-entitlement or just impatience that's why many newbies complain a lot. Don't make few posts and expect merits to rain. I think some merit sources here also checks post history and see if you are contributing well to the forum. If they see that you are actively engaged in quality discussions, you will most likely get some merits.

This is not the reality, even though there is a big difference in the quality of the post of a newbie or a higher rank member and therefore the higher rank deserve more merits on the basis of his quality work. As far as merit for the newbies are concerned, almost every giveaway the most merits are for the newbies and Jr members. The only hard to rank up is from full member to Sr. Member and then from Sr. Member to Legendary only on the basis that you require almost 100 merits to rank up after you attain the member rank.

That's the painful truth these days here in the crypto market. No matter how constructed and well-constructed your post is, you will still recieve none of the merits just because you are in a low rank or just a newbie. Actually, there are still some parts in the forum where you can gain merit but not that much and your rank would still matter. It is very unfortunate for the newbies who experienced the crypto with merit, we had our time, activities would dictate your rank but now we have to suffer the same consequences the newbies and low ranks are having.

I've merited hundreds of Newbies and I'm not very picky, but OP isn't getting any for this post.

OP if you're doubtful whether your post deserves merit, then find a thread that offers merits to those deserving posts to be merited but left unnoticed. Some of the merit sources are giving out merits. I know this is your alt account, and out of frustrations you posted such biased post because your main account had a hard time earning merits.
Here, help yourself up :
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/updated-18-november-2019-list-of-active-merit-giveaways-threads-5096125

Posting this kind of statement doesn't help you get merit either.