The Rock Trading Scam www.therocktrading.com Exchange Review fraud opinion - page 19.

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The Rock Trading CFO posted another blatant lie with his new account marco777, that he created after being banned as eliale, and denied being him:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54725279

He had the nerve to write he was just a customer!

The Rock CFO/eliale created the account Marco777 on the same exact day that the Rock CTO paci posted on my Italian thread, 28 March 2020, after paci was 2 years without posting:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54112606

Just compare the writing (Oppure means OR):

Quote from: eliale on April 04, 2019, 04:56:31 PM

there are only 2 situations in your case:

1) You are the owner of the account

or

2) You control an account which belongs to another person and, most likely, she is not aware.

Quote from: marco777 on April 12, 2020, 10:09:07 AM

i casi sono 2:

1) sei un troll seriale e compulsivo

Oppure

2) hai rubato il conto e cerchi d'impossesarti dei fondi non tuoi.......

This Marco777 posted only on my italian thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile&u=2786780&sa=showPosts

And he knows very well the Rock TOS:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54534729

In the past, the Rock CFO created also a fake account to support himself:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.45560191

I guess he thinks that he can scam and post lie after lie and that people will still trust him with their money!

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The Rock Trading changed the access to the reviews on their Facebook page. Now, you have to logon in order to see them: https://www.facebook.com/pg/TheRockTrading/reviews/

Of course, since his scheme to promote his business, buying fake positive reviews, was denounced (check here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.52863951), The Rock CFO had to try to find something to try to hide it.

A simple email sent to Facebook about their fake positive reviews will be enough to shutdown their page.

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Quote from: jack0m on August 22, 2020, 10:52:33 AM

Quote from: Coinfan on August 19, 2020, 04:54:00 PM

But I'm not looking for just a heavy fine.

We all know that exchanges have a lot of excuses to try to hide their scams. Initially, they could escape with just a fine with the fake pretext of the abusive KYC.

Now, it's perfectly clear that they are just trying to steal my money and no authority will believe any excuse.

Agree, I see many other exchanges acting in some shady - if not blatantly illegal - way: a friend of mine fell victim of a very similar scam with Bittrex: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/warning-yet-another-scam-by-the-shady-bittrex-exchange-5270691

I sincerely hope in the end you all will manage to get your funds back. Keep up!

The explicit support from an old and respected member like you is very important. Thank you, jack0m.

If they think that I'm going to let them steal my money, they are very wrong. This is going on for almost two years and will go on for as long as necessary. If they didn't learn that by now, they will: my promise.

But if they think that the worst ended and this can't go wronger, they will find out how mistaken they are.

This case is now on the Italian Garante of Privacy, but won't end there. Now, I have the accumulating evidence of a clear criminal case.

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Quote from: Coinfan on August 19, 2020, 04:54:00 PM

But I'm not looking for just a heavy fine.

We all know that exchanges have a lot of excuses to try to hide their scams. Initially, they could escape with just a fine with the fake pretext of the abusive KYC.

Now, it's perfectly clear that they are just trying to steal my money and no authority will believe any excuse.

Agree, I see many other exchanges acting in some shady - if not blatantly illegal - way: a friend of mine fell victim of a very similar scam with Bittrex: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/warning-yet-another-scam-by-the-shady-bittrex-exchange-5270691

I sincerely hope in the end you all will manage to get your funds back. Keep up!

Coinfan

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But I'm not looking for just a heavy fine.

We all know that exchanges have a lot of excuses to try to hide their scams. Initially, they could escape with just a fine with the fake pretext of the abusive KYC.

Now, it's perfectly clear that they are just trying to steal my money and no authority will believe any excuse.

Coinfan

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Quote from: JollyGood on August 04, 2020, 02:34:15 PM

Even if they try to hold on to your funds for as long as can they have just two options open to them. One is that they will have to return them one day or the other is to show they are bankrupt. To be honest everybody can see they are already morally bankrupt and their owners are worthy of going to jail.

They were hoping that this case wouldn't end up on Italian authorities hands and that they could keep my money.

But, by now, they must likely already received a preliminary contact from the Italian Garante of Privacy or they contacted this authority and confirmed the pending case.

So, the Rock manager knows that his time is running out. Actually, even if they returned the money now, they wouldn't escape a heavy fine.

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Even if they try to hold on to your funds for as long as can they have just two options open to them. One is that they will have to return them one day or the other is to show they are bankrupt. To be honest everybody can see they are already morally bankrupt and their owners are worthy of going to jail.

Quote from: Coinfan on July 27, 2020, 09:48:30 PM

Contrary to the silence on this thread, on the Italian thread this issue is very active with several members posting on it.

In any case, they are burned here for everyone to see on the next years and learn about what kind of people manages the Rock, even after the Rock Trading goes down.

This issue is in the hands of the Italian authorities and only them will resolve it, as they rather go down and be punished than renounce my money, that they thought they could keep for good ("forever").

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The Rock CFO lies and lies, but if pushed or gets angry, he always end up confessing his really intentions and motives, even if that is completely irrational. He just can't control himself.

And if criticized, he won't resist to came back (if necessary using another anonymous account) to post again the same lies and incriminate himself even more.

It's like if he thought, "nobody attacks me without receiving an answer. I don't care if I end in jail because of it".

Please, don't laugh, this is serious.

He reminds me someone... an american president?

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Contrary to the silence on this thread, on the Italian thread this issue is very active with several members posting on it.

In any case, they are burned here for everyone to see on the next years and learn about what kind of people manages the Rock, even after the Rock Trading goes down.

This issue is in the hands of the Italian authorities and only them will resolve it, as they rather go down and be punished than renounce my money, that they thought they could keep for good ("forever").

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Thanks for your merit, Jollygood.

The italian entity that answered the complaint is the italian Garante of Privacy (https://www.garanteprivacy.it - www.gpdp.it).

It has now an official status number and the decision is pending.

Of course, I can't post the number on an open forum, but if they weren't yet contacted, better contact the Garante and confirm it.

It seems that the previous complaint was sent to a secondary email address.

By the way, the Garante only accepts signed complaints backed by an identity document.

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As announced, I have decisive news.

One of the complaints received an answer and an Italian entity decision is pending on this all issue.

They thought they would get away with this, but the time for answering for their actions is imminent.

I don't know if they were already contacted or not. But they will be.

I'll post more details on a future post.

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The Rock CFO thinks, "Two years have past, I still have the money and the bad things already happened, like burning the Rock reputation and mine. What can go wrong from here?"

"There are no signs from the authorities, so it's 35500 euros in my pocket. This will go away on its own, without any other consequences".

He doesn't realize yet, but he is like someone falling from a building and thinking on the middle of the way onto the floor "so far, things seems more or less alright, this probably will end fine for me".

He can't imagine how wrong he is. Stay tuned, next week I'll have major news.

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The new account of the Rock CFO was denounced and now he doesn't even dare to log again on the account. The last time was 10 days ago:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/marco777-2786780

It seems that he is afraid of being banned again.

He will discovered that he has more substantial reasons to be afraid than this one.

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I won't forget to inform you and the members that keep interest on this case.

I promise major news soon. The Rock CFO will answer for his actions.

He was hoping that this case wouldn't end with the authorities or that they wouldn't act, and that he would be able to keep my money, but he is very wrong.

JollyGood

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Any information that can be posted here with regards to the case will be helpful for those of us that are following closely.

We hope you manage to get your funds back without delay but the Rock Trading scammers will try to drag this out for as long as they can. Do not give up, you will hopefully be refunded very soon so the money they scammed from you will be returned.

Quote from: Coinfan on June 08, 2020, 07:17:04 PM

My case is raging on my italian thread with several posts from many italian bitcoiners.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025233.240

The Rock CFO thinks that things can't go worst than they are for him. He thinks he has nothing more to lose, now that he was banned from this forum and also burned the Rock Facebook page.

He doesn't realize that this hasn't even started. This now is going to be a legal fight.

But I'll keep the information flowing on this thread.

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The Rock changed their FAQ, but kept the same TOS. I guess they don't know even the basics about TOS and FAQ.

FAQ are just the business own interpretation of their TOS. FAQ are binding on the business, but FAQ are not accepted per se by the customers, only the TOS. Therefore, FAQ are not binding on the customers.

Furthermore, FAQ have to be compatible with the TOS or they are worthless and just confirm that the business is a scam.

Coinfan

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My case is raging on my italian thread with several posts from many italian bitcoiners.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025233.240

The Rock CFO thinks that things can't go worst than they are for him. He thinks he has nothing more to lose, now that he was banned from this forum and also burned the Rock Facebook page.

He doesn't realize that this hasn't even started. This now is going to be a legal fight.

But I'll keep the information flowing on this thread.

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The Rock CFO just is incapable of learning with his past mistakes. Every time he decides to come back and post some more lies (like he is doing on the italian thread), he just reveals to everyone what kind of person he is.

Actually, it was thanks to his new posts that I realized that he was banned from Bitcointalk.

But he is expecting the Rock customers to keep trusting him with their money.

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Thanks again for your support.

Since he was banned from this forum, the Rock CFO won't be able ever to delete the many posts he made with his account eliale where he confessed his intentions and posted very damaging and illegal texts.

They will be ready here waiting to be read by the italian authorities.

Of course, all of them were recorded, but this way his statements won't leave any doubt.

He will answer for them all.

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I am very sorry that these scammers still have not been brought forward to face justice after the way they stole your funds. Hopefully they will stand before a Court one day when a judge will decide their fate.

The scam they carried out to steal your funds goes back a very long time, you did not deserve to your funds nor does anybody else but ever since the thread was created many users posted in order to highlight the issue it must have saved many potential victims for falling prey to the Rock Trading scammers.

Hopefully the Arbitration will be finding the ruling in your favour soon, that would be a great first step in trying to retrieve your funds from these Rock Trading thieves.

Quote from: Coinfan on May 23, 2020, 07:55:44 PM

Besides the usual lies, on the italian board, the Rock CFO (with his new account Marco777) had the nerve of denying for the first time in almost 2 years of public fight the amount he is trying to keep "forever" (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54406770).

Which is something that only someone with scam intentions would do.

He confirmed many times the amount before:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50365334
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.50346052

I don't really have to do nothing. I can just watch him ruining himself.

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