Topic: The Rock Trading Scam www.therocktrading.com Exchange Review fraud opinion - page 16. (Read 36160 times)

I changed my OP and added the recent news, including about his lies and other illegal acts with links to the evidence for everyone to read, including the Italian Police, with an Italian translation.

I'm also posting another evidence of the Rock CFO lies to the police, his fake motive for their covert block on my withdrawals. He told the lie that it was because my account was dormant between 2014 and 2017.
The Rock CTO Paci contradicted him, but his own support system contradicted him too and also invented another illegal pretext: they said it was because I made euro withdrawals, back in 2013, when their TOS explicitly allowed them.
They were saying that they blocked covertly my withdrawals in the beginning of 2018 because of small withdrawals I made on 2013!!

An illegal block, three different pretexts, all illegal and lying.

Here is a scan of this statement in their support answer to the August 2018 ticket:



Sto anche postando un'altra prova delle menzogne del direttore finanziario della Rock alla polizia, il suo falso movente per il loro blocco segreto sui miei prelievi. Ha detto la bugia perché il mio conto è rimasto dormiente tra il 2014 e il 2017.
Il CTO Paci di Rock lo ha contraddetto, ma anche il suo stesso sistema di supporto lo ha contraddetto e ha anche inventato un pretesto illegale: hanno detto che è stato perché ho fatto dei prelievi di euro, nel 2013, quando il loro TOS glielo ha esplicitamente permesso.
Dicevano di aver bloccato di nascosto i miei prelievi all'inizio del 2018 a causa dei piccoli prelievi che avevo fatto nel 2013!
Ecco una scansione della loro risposta al biglietto dell'agosto 2018:

Posting evidence that the complains were done with the names the Rock Trading have on file would breach privacy, but I could do it if the Rock CFO wrote clearly that he will return immediately my money, without any other demand.

He knows he won't be able to keep it. Forced by the police or voluntarily he will have to return my money.

But I'm ready to wait for the Prosecutor decision. Who waits almost 3 years, can wait some time more.

Let's hope the OP is not bluffing like he did for the past 2 years.

Jolly, please, intercede for us with the OP about it.

Thank you!

Yes that Paci CTO account went all quiet a long time ago but the other one is still spreading propaganda against you.

I hope the man behind this whole situation Andrea Medri is arrested by the Italian authorities soon and get jailed for the way they treated you by confiscating your funds for no valid reason.

Thank you for taking the issue to the police, hopefully Andrea Medri the owner/operator of that tiny little useless mini-exchange called the Rock Trading will go to jail and you will receive all your funds back with interest and damages,

Just to remind that Coinfan has a criminal procedure against him:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AcIIsoWP5mcMCApKMMPtTokkXfS9eyIz?usp=sharing

TRT is still waiting for a legal reply aside, this anoymous chat.

Thank you

Paci, the Rock CTO, never posted once supporting the Rock CFO.

Therefore I hope it's not Paci signature that was erased on the published document or he is in serious trouble too.

Paci in August 2018, days before I created this thread, contradicted the lie that the Rock CFO told to the police that the block was caused by my account being "dormant" between 2014 and 2017. Paci wrote that the covert withdrawal block was because "Your profile looked suspicious to our internal automatic security checks"! The profile wasn't change since 2013! The police will receive a copy of this too.

They can rest assure that Paci will have to testify on the investigations and make clear what was the true reason for the block and why he contradicted the CFO lie.

Paci knows every single lie that the Rock CFO told to the police. And he won't dare lie too and get also 1 to 5 years in prison, when there are documents and public posts as evidence.

Paci, il CTO del Rock, non ha mai postato una volta a sostegno del CFO del Rock.
Spero quindi che non sia la firma di Paci quella che è stata nascosta sul documento pubblicato o che anche lui sia in guai seri.
Paci nell'agosto del 2018, giorni prima che creassi questo thread, ha contraddetto la bugia che il Rock CFO ha detto alla polizia che il blocco è stato causato dal fatto che il mio account è rimasto "dormiente" tra il 2014 e il 2017. Paci scrisse che il blocco di prelievo segreto era dovuto al fatto che "il tuo profilo appariva sospettoso ai nostri controlli di sicurezza automatici interni"!
Possono stare tranquilli che Paci dovrà testimoniare sulle indagini e chiarire qual è stato il vero motivo del blocco e perché ha contraddetto la bugia del CFO.
Paci conosce ogni singola bugia che il CFO della Rock ha raccontato alla polizia. E non oserà mentire e si farà anche da 1 a 5 anni di carcere, quando ci saranno documenti e posti pubblici come prove.

The Rock CFO wrote I have to prove ownership of the account?!

I signed a message with the bitcoin address used to make a major deposit of 2.34 btc in 1 June 2017!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51271058

This case was subject to several complains, all using the names they have on file with the account.

Mirae, thank you for your feedback on Marco777, the alt account of the Rock CFO: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/marco777-2786780

It must have been a difficult time for Coinfan (the OP) but they have not given up. They are still trying to get their funds back after that tiny little useless mini-exchange called the Rock Trading seized their funds under the most ridiculous of excuses.

I hope Andrea Medri the owner/operator of that tiny little useless mini-exchange called the Rock Trading will go to jail. Thank you Coinfan for not giving up in the face of all these games and delay tactics they used.

Hello, for Coinfan to obtain funds, if he is the real owner which I doubt it, it would be very easy. It would be enough to prove his ownership of the account.

As far as the police, we started a criminal procedure against Coinfan and published the documents.  Coinfan, claimed many times he started a claim without any evidence and, as of today, we didn't get any request form authorities.... or, at least, his lawyer....

About timing, our procedure is going to take time because Coinfan is a nickname hiding behind anonimity...... On the contrary, he could reach us quite fast being our company address available

Why in 2 years we didn't receive an official request?? Because he cannot file a procedure against us....

Thank you

Link: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AcIIsoWP5mcMCApKMMPtTokkXfS9eyIz?usp=sharing

It has been more than 2 years since i started following this thread, i am not gonna lie that i quite forgot about it
But its a goddamn shame that Coinfan still hasnt received its money back as he has all the rights to them

I also see that both sides(?) have contacted the local police, how long does it normally take to reach atleast some conclusion by them ?

As evidence that the Rock CFO lied to the police when he said that he blocked my account because it was dormant between 2014 and 2017, I added more scans of trading in December 2016 and in 2017 and tickets opened in December 2014 and June 2017 to the same post, to concentrate all the evidence about his lie on the motive for all of this:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55687075

I wonder if he expects Paci, his CTO, to testify against his own answer to one of the tickets and risk 1 to 5 years in prison too.

I'm going to update my open post with information about the latest news, including links to all the evidence about his lies, with a translation in Italian.

Come prova che il CFO di Rock ha mentito alla polizia quando ha detto di aver bloccato il mio conto perché ha detto che era dormiente tra il 2014 e il 2017, ho aggiunto altre scansioni di trading nel dicembre 2016 e nel 2017 e biglietti aperti nel dicembre 2014 e giugno 2017 allo stesso posto, per concentrare tutte le prove sulla sua bugia sul motivo di tutto questo:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55687075
Aggiornerò il mio post aperto con informazioni sulle ultime notizie, compresi i link a tutte le prove delle sue menzogne, con una traduzione in italiano.

The Rock CFO crimes II:

The Rock CFO published two documents from a criminal proceeding. This is a crime under Italian Law, even if he hided some information. Article 684 of the Italian Criminal Code forbids publishing this documents "in all or in part":
https://www.brocardi.it/codice-penale/libro-terzo/titolo-i/capo-i/sezione-iii/art684.html

Article 329 of the Italian code of criminal process forbids publishing acts of the judiciary police: https://www.brocardi.it/codice-di-procedura-penale/libro-quinto/titolo-i/art329.html
The Corte di Cassazione, sez. I Penale, sentenza 1 – 10 ottobre 2019, n. 41640, explicitly qualified the reception of a complain as activity of police and said that this act can't be published.
https://canestrinilex.com/risorse/segreto-di-indagine-e-pubblicazione-degli-atti-un-po-di-chiarezza-cass-4164019/

Actually, he had to know this, as he wrote
And the evidence for these acts is on display. He is going to remove the posts and documents, but I made scans, including a few of the link and each document. The police will receive them.

As well as the crime he committed of lying to the police (see: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55687075 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55725677), also this one is a public crime which doesn't depend on any complain. The victim is again the Italian Justice System. They will investigate and prosecute this crime on their own.

Il Rock CFO ha pubblicato due documenti di un procedimento penale. Si tratta di un crimine secondo la legge italiana, anche se ha nascosto alcune informazioni. L'art. 684 c.p. vieta la pubblicazione di tali documenti "in tutto o in parte":
https://www.brocardi.it/codice-penale/libro-terzo/titolo-i/capo-i/sezione-iii/art684.html
L'articolo 329 del codice di procedura penale vieta la pubblicazione di atti della polizia giudiziaria: https://www.brocardi.it/codice-di-procedura-penale/libro-quinto/titolo-i/art329.html
La Corte di Cassazione, sez. I Penale, sentenza 1 - 10 ottobre 2019, n. 41640, ha esplicitamente qualificato la ricezione di una denuncia come attività di polizia e ha affermato che questo atto non può essere pubblicato.
https://canestrinilex.com/risorse/segreto-di-indagine-e-pubblicazione-degli-atti-un-po-di-chiarezza-cass-4164019/
In realtà, doveva sapere che, come ha scritto E le prove di questi atti sono esposte. Sta per rimuovere i post e i documenti, ma ho fatto delle scansioni, compresi alcuni dei link e ogni documento. La polizia li riceverà.
Oltre al reato che ha commesso di aver mentito alla polizia (vedi: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55687075 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55725677), anche questo è un reato pubblico che non dipende da nessuna denuncia. La vittima è di nuovo il sistema giudiziario italiano. Essi indagheranno e perseguiranno questo crimine per conto proprio.[/size]

This now is in the Italian criminal authorities hands. The Italian Prosecutor will confirm here all the evidence in a few days.

r34tr783tr78, thanks for giving negative feedback to the Rock CFO alt account, Marco777:
He called me a troll or a thief: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54206911
And tried to deny the blocked amount, which reveals his real intent: "e che la storia dei 35k euro non la puo comprovare"
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54406770
Evidence that is his alt account: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55159694

Thank you for posting about the scam and updating us with the way in which eliale (Andrea Medri the owner operator of little tiny mini useless exchange called Rock Trading) has been lying to the Italian police. I hope there is no chance you will allow him to make a deal with you before the matter gets to court, do not allow him to offer you a settlement. I hope you take him to court and I hope you claim damages from from him personally and hit tiny mini useless exchange called Rock trading.

They deserve to be shut down immediately in order to stop other users having their funds confiscated under false pretences.

Update:

at the following link :

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AcIIsoWP5mcMCApKMMPtTokkXfS9eyIz?usp=sharing

I uploaded a new document. 

It is the official record that the Italian Police sent the procedure to the Prosecutor.

It is also good to know that Coinfan is now ready to challenge the Criminal Procedure against him and not limiting himself to utilize an anonymous chat like he did for the past 2 years

Looking forward to receive an official letter from his lawyer in order to provide him further information about the Prosecutor.

Thank you

The Rock CFO is just promoting his crime. Until recently, he was responsible for clear breaches of Italian Law, but he could try to lie with the verification illegal pretext against a criminal charge.

But lying to the police is a clear crime under Italian Law and publishing the proof of this crime was a very serious mistake. He'll find out how much a mistake it was. r34tr783tr78, feel free to also denounce his crime to the police. Thank you again for your support.

The moderator just deleted his abusive posts.


Thank you. He will answer for all his acts, including this clear crime. Now, there is no turning point. The police can't ignore this when there is also a high amount of money involved.

The Rock CFO lied to the italian Police III:

He wrote: "Taking in consideration the information on the mentioned post, I and my employees checked all the accounts of our clients and we reached the conclusion that it's possible that the customer COINFAN is mentioning the account created on the Rock Trading on **.**.2011" (original in Italian: "A seguito degli elementi forniti in questi post, io e i miei collaboratori abbiamo controllato tutte le posizioni dei nostri clienti/utenti e siamo giunti alla conclusione che vi sia la concrete possibilità che l'utente COINFAN faccia riferimento all'account creato con la The Rock Trading il **.**.2011"

It's a lie that they didn't know what my complaint was about and had to check all accounts. They hided from the police the ticked open about this case on 10? august 2018 and the subsequent exchange for several days about this, with their refusal to allow the bitcoin withdrawal and blackmail to send personal documents as a pretext for the covert block of my withdrawals.

They are a tiny exchange but, of course, they block covertly accounts every month with 35500 euros. So, they had to check all accounts. He thinks he can fool the police.

The point of the lie is to suggest again that I'm not the legitimate owner of the account.

Taking in account my evidence, including scans of the balance and transactions, a posted signed bitcoin address used to make a deposit on the Rock Trading on June 2017 and the fact that this public fight is going on for almost 2,5 years with no one claiming the account, it's just a completely lie to keep holding my money.

Remember, they cancelled my account, so their fake/illegal pretext for verification can't in any case be invoked. I'm no longer their customer.

Only the OP can confirm but it seems they have tried their best to ensure is held to account for multiple matters including posting private details about the OP that should never have been mentioned in this forum as per GDPR Rules and to top it off of course confiscating a large amount of crypto under false pretences.

Maybe, just maybe they reason why they did not return the funds to the OP is because they spent the funds which means the tiny useless mini-exchange is insolvent but only after an investigation can all the facts be ascertained. Hopefully this mentally deranged Andrea Medri will be arrested and questioned by police very soon.

Keep up the good work Coinfan, do not let Andrea Medri and his tiny useless mini-exchange website Rock Trading get away with stealing your money.

I just had a look at the links in the signature area of user r34tr783tr78. I nearly vomited when I saw that horrendous looking face and teeth: https://andreamedri881681188.wordpress.com/

Dear readers,

please, be advised that there is a criminal investigation against Coinfan as per the Police record at the following link:

 https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AcIIsoWP5mcMCApKMMPtTokkXfS9eyIz?usp=sharing

Thank you for your consideration

OP why the hell you didnt report the scammer medri spam?? He is trying to hide your evidence about his lies under constant dupes. The scammer medri told the more stupid lies I have ever see in my life. He gives details in his lies leaving him no room to deny them. He could write that the account was dormant without details. But no he had to try to outsmart them and say some years to make the lie more convincing.
Scammer medri you will pay for your negative feedback. I swear that if the police dont act fast I will also denounce your lies to them with your pdf file attached as evidence!!

Thank you for the post. Never ever allow members of this forum to forget how this tiny little useless Rock Trading exchange destroyed their tiny little useless reputation over the way they confiscated your funds without good reason. I hope they will be shut down soon and I hope its owners including Andrea Medri will be facing the police.

Oh, I hope they end up getting nothing of that small amount of money they raised from Opstart

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Unfortunately the OP fell for the tricks of the Rock Trading and should never have used their trashy little useless exchange and now they have seen their money being withheld without any justification.

All users are advised to avoid this little useless tiny exchange called Rock trading otherwise they might end up never getting their funds back !




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Some of them are very good exchanges. However, they all ask full KYC which is the problem for the OP.

The best I recommend you use for trades - exchanges :

Coinbase.com
Binance.com
Gemini.com
Coinhouse.com
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Bitstamp.net
Bitfinex.com

Why use you a service unknown?.