Topic: The Rock Trading Scam www.therocktrading.com Exchange Review fraud opinion - page 14. (Read 36160 times)

He will have more preeminent issues to hope for than his reputation.

This person was condemned to 1 year in prison just for saying to the Italian authorities that he was married to someone who in reality engaged in prostitution:

https://renatodisa.com/corte-di-cassazione-sezione-vi-sentenza-13-ottobre-2014-n-42767-false-dichiarazioni-in-atti-destinati-allautorita-giudiziaria-integrate-anche-se-le-circostanze-non-vere-riguardano-lindagato/

I wonder how much the Rock CFO will get for telling several lies on a completely absurd complain used in order to trick Opstart and get the 1.5 million raised.

The person above ended up with a suspended sentence. Let's find out if the Rock CFO will have the same luck or his case is too serious to evade effective prison time.

Please stop using this forum as your personal tool to use against the OP in an ill-advised vendetta.

If there is any chance Rock Trading will have some sort of a positive reputation in the coming days and weeks after the Court case is over then this sort of sarcasm and low-level small tactic from you does not help the situation at all.

Dear Coinfan,

as said many times, we are looking forward to challenge you in a Court of Law.

However, I would like to remind you that, so far, you are the only one with an open criminal procedure for which we provided proof at:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AcIIsoWP5mcMCApKMMPtTokkXfS9eyIz?usp=sharing

The good news is that, as soon as we will receive your claim, we will finally have your identity and our procedure, which is now against an anonymous person, will be effective.

Thank you!

Jollygood, thanks for your questions.

Now, the Rock CFO has people to whom he has to answer, beside the Italian authorities. I wonder how they will react when they realize that he hided his criminal problems from their prospective investors?

They won't be pleased to know that the Rock breached almost all the rules he could as a financial manager and will have to answer for that, but that they will be also suffering the financial consequences of the Rock close.

He can forget about any contact from my lawyer. There would be no point. He breached criminal rules and lied to the Italian criminal authorities, he will answer to them.

I'm starting to think that he is hiding that his complain was already dismissed. A formal criminal complain against him is being worked on.

I am not a shareholder so you do not have to apologise for refusing to answer but you for posting back.

I will visit the exchange from to time to see how things develop but regardless of all said and done I hope finally after over 3 years of you and your Rock Trading confiscating funds belonging to the OP without good reason, they finally get their funds returned to them and also get extra compensation/money for the unnecessary stress and delay that you and your Rock Trading caused.

I am sure the OP and their legal team will follow Italian law directives as they work through to retrieve their funds, I cannot comment why you have not heard from their lawyer but I think matters are now so deep that they have no reason to contact you and will go through the process through the Courts.

About the 1m EURO you received from Opstart, I visited your Rock Trading website a few days ago, it still seems very primitive and needs a complete overhaul if it were to ever stay around long enough to compete with others. With $6m trading in previous 24 hours your exchange is not exactly setting the crypto world alight so what do you intend to do with those funds?

Yes, of course they released funds.

As I said, they had to  react and request information (even for an anonymous notification which was the usual cut & paste of all the civil and criminal Italian code)   and, because they determined that there was no wrongdoing on our side, they had no reason to request authorities to freeze funds.

Again, no news from the OP lawyer, from OAM, or from any other possible autority you may think so......   

Did Opstart release the funds to you/Rock Trading? If they did not what reasons did they give and when do they intend to release the funds?

I can update you on this.

Opstart, which is a licensed company, received a couple of anonymous mail and, as standard procedure, requested us information about it.

We provided all the information and they closed the case not finding any wrong doing on our side.


Edit: It is in Italian but, if you look at the criminal procedure act , we are mentioning Opstart:   https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AcIIsoWP5mcMCApKMMPtTokkXfS9eyIz?usp=sharing

Has anybody informed Opstart about the scam allegations and pending court cases? They raised over 1m Euro as far as I know.

It's incredible that Opstart still hasn't cancelled the Rock raise of capital.
https://www.opstart.it/progetto/digital-rock-holding/

This means that they are considering giving a million and half euros of their investors to the Rock CFO, who only by miracle will evade a condemnation for lying to the police on a judicial document, which grants him 1 to 5 years in jail, even forgetting the other crimes.

The evidence is more than clear: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55687075

The Rock CFO complete disregard for Italian Law, including Italian Criminal Law, is evident as he published documents protected by judicial secret and even after warned that this is also a crime, as stated by a high Italian court, he completely ignored the warning.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55970022

He even published the name of the prosecutor, allowing anyone to make a positive identification.

I wonder what will happen if to the very least Opstart doesn't reveal these facts to their investors?

No, I'm not missing the point at all.

We both agree it is an issue that a Court of law will take care.

Thank you

The Rock CFO completely missed the point. Thanks to his actions, we are very long past breaches of Italian financial law, competence of the Organismo Agenti e Mediatori. This complain was sent some time ago.

Obviously, the point of the scan of the complaint to the OAM was to show to the community that there is no anonymity and that the prosecutor is going to receive a full complain about all the Rock CFO acts. Lying to the police and publishing documents against italian criminal law are more than proved.

But there will be details and evidence also about:


Fraud (article 640 of the Italian Criminal Code):

They blocked my withdrawals on December 2017/January 2018 (and lied about it to the Police) and didn't inform me about the block against what rule 8.4 of their TOS says (“useful efforts by TRT to contact the User”: https://www.therocktrading.com/en/service_terms/3), letting me keep trading and even making a new deposit unaware of the situation. I had to go to them on august 2018 to know that it was an intentional block.

On other words, they made me think that everything was alright, that there was no block, knowing very well that I would keep paying fees and entrapping more money. This is fraud.

Coercion with menace: the Italian criminal code on its article 610 says:


Chiunque, con violenza o minaccia, costringe altri a fare, tollerare od omettere qualche cosa è punito con la reclusione fino a quattro anni.
La pena è aumentata se concorrono le condizioni prevedute dall'articolo 339.
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Translation: Anyone who, with violence or threat, forces others to do, tolerate or omit anything is punished with imprisonment of up to four years.
The penalty is increased if the conditions set forth in article 339 are met.

Even under their story, the Rock CFO threatened me to keep my money blocked "forever" in order to compel me to give them copies of my personal documents for almost 3 years, something the Rock CFO finally admitted he had no legal ground to demand.

Therefore, he tried to coerce me to do something he had no right to under a criminal threat of keeping my money.

The Prosecutor will decide if this isn't a violation of article 610 of the Italian Criminal Code.

Embezzlement/Appropriazione indebita is a crime under article 646 of the Italian Criminal Code.

The fact that they blocked my money covertly 3 years ago, that the Rock CFO said that he was ready to keep my money blocked "forever", that he denied the amount using his marco777 alt account, all the lies he posted on this forum to try to clean his actions, his confession he wasn't going to return my money if the Arbitration decision supported my case and all his lies to the police, are all facts very relevant about an embezzlement attempt.

The Prosecutor will decide also about this.

Very good news. Looking forward to hear from OAM

Thank you

He thinks that "sending" his money to a so-called third-party, with whom he negotiated and paid, after 3 years of lies and the confessed intention of keeping the money "forever", will convince the police that he didn't intend to keep the money, even after lying to the police.

Actually, there is no evidence that the third party didn't return the money according to a deal to try to fool the police

I explicitly rejected it and he read the post I quoted on my previous post.

He keeps lying about having a lawyer. A lawyer wouldn't never allow him to do something that is illegal in all countries.

Debtors can't transfer their debt without the creditor consent for obvious reasons. They could transfer it to someone who has no goods to answer for the debt or that can run with any amount he received to pay the debt.

Only in his imagination he sent my money to anyone. He has my money and will answer for it.

He gambled that I post lies like him. He lost again and he can't even figure out how much in trouble he is.

Here is a scan of one of the several complains sent against the Rock Trading, in this case to the Organismo Agenti e Mediatori (OAM).

short answer: Our lawyers told us to do so

We have been trying to contact the account owner without success for the past 3 years.  The only connection we have is an anonymous person who proved to have access to the account without proving to own it....

As you know, the OP multiple times, for the past 3 years, aside defaming us, talked about police intervention, arrests, court orders etc but, as of today, not even a single simple letter from his lawyer....... Why?

Of course, I cannot publish all the details such as past correspondence with the owner but it is now in hands of the prosecutor.

Anyway, funds are no longer in our control and, this is proof we have never been looking to "steal" customer funds. They are safely held by a third party arbiter. So, no matter what the OP says, there is not too much we can do at this point.

It would be very easy for the account owner to get her money back.

Thank you

I am not sure why you took unilateral steps to give money that belongs to the OP to a third party without their consent. They never agreed to the arbiter that you selected and was not even offered a choice so why did you take all these step?

Did you think about approaching the OP and asking if they would accept this before you started the process?

Update:

as promised, bank receipt of the deposit on the arbitrator account. Every quarter we will publish the bank statement proving the existence of the deposit. 

Link: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AcIIsoWP5mcMCApKMMPtTokkXfS9eyIz?usp=sharing

Thank you

I explicitly rejected any sending of my money to a third party (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55540283).

The Rock CFO has no legal powers to transfer money that is just entrusted to him (under a 3 year illegal block). He has my money and answers for it.

Arbitration depends on consent of both parties (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbitration).

He will explain to the prosecutor what was the legal basis to send money that he (in his imagination) says is from another person without his consent to a third party. Person who showed plenty of evidence that he is the owner of the money he is entrusted.

Of course, he is just trying to evade responsibility for fraud with this strategy, after 3 years of a covert block, secret and fake changes of his FAQ and successive lies to cover attempts to keep my money "forever", instead of devolving it.

This only gives me more reasons to make him answer for his actions.

If he didn't include a clause saying that he has the right to ask the money back in case he pays the amount directly to the owner, he will have a very long judicial battle to recover the money. Well, probably, the "third party" is just a friend of him.

Jollygood, thanks for the continuous support. Yes, there will be also an issue of compensation.

Excellent post. Thank you for your time and continuous support. The Rock CFO is responsible for public crimes that don't depend on any complain. A simple email is enough to denounce them and they will be investigated.

I understand you are angry because of the negative feedbacks you received because of this case. I'm sorry about that. It's your right to also denounce the Rock CFO crimes if you want.

He published gender and first name of the Prosecutor, and so the identity, as was very easy to find it. He thinks he can do to a Prosecutor what he done in this case. This time he messed with the privacy of a powerful person, who can ruin his life, besides lying and publishing documents under justice's secret.

I don't know if the case was already dismissed or if he desisted from it, but I think the authorities are full aware of these posts, including all the evidence. But the Prosecutor will receive all details and evidence and a complain. There is no turning point. They will receive also copies of all the previous complains about his case

The Rock CFO and CTO Paci will be called to be interrogated. All his lies will be dismounted and he will answer for them and all his actions.

Ha pubblicato il sesso e il nome del procuratore, e quindi l'identità, come era molto facile da trovare. Pensa di poter fare ad un procuratore quello che ha fatto in questo caso. Questa volta ha incasinato la privacy di una persona potente, che può rovinare la sua vita, oltre a mentire e pubblicare documenti sotto segreto giudiziario.
Non so se il caso è già stato archiviato o se ha desistito da esso, ma penso che le autorità siano pienamente a conoscenza di questi post, comprese tutte le prove. Ma il procuratore riceverà tutti i dettagli e le prove e una denuncia. Non c'è nessun punto di svolta. Riceveranno anche le copie di tutte le denunce precedenti sul suo caso
Il CFO della Rock e il CTO Paci saranno chiamati per essere interrogati. Tutte le sue bugie saranno smontate e lui risponderà di loro e di tutte le sue azioni.