Yes, he can forget about the capital on Opstart. He told them the same lies or worst.
The Rock CFO doesn't know when he is finished. The police will investigate the facts about this case and his lies are so clear that he will have much to answer for.
I found people sentenced for more than 1 year in prison just for lying to the police that he had lost his passport. Imagine making a complaint against his victim full of lies, made against his previous public declarations here.
This time he went too far. He made me a big favor.
And he wrote more lies. I'll post about them.
Topic: The Rock Trading Scam www.therocktrading.com Exchange Review fraud opinion - page 17. (Read 36160 times)
December 11, 2020, 06:37:38 AM
December 07, 2020, 07:19:20 AM
Thank you for the post Coinfan, it is good to see you not backing down. I hope you receive your money soon.
That 35,500 euro that they confiscated from you was not worth all the negative press and all the hassle they endured after you exposed them.
Hopefully they will not a single penny from that funding at Opstart and hopefully the Rock Trading will be shut down by the legal authorities and its owners/operators will hopefully be before a judge in a court.
That 35,500 euro that they confiscated from you was not worth all the negative press and all the hassle they endured after you exposed them.
Hopefully they will not a single penny from that funding at Opstart and hopefully the Rock Trading will be shut down by the legal authorities and its owners/operators will hopefully be before a judge in a court.
I just updated my previous post (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55725677) with a scan from a post from the Rock CFO on this forum where he is very clear that my account was fully functional (except withdrawals) on 26 June 2019, which is clear evidence that he lied to the Italian police when he said that they "on the beginning of 2018, presumably in association with the block of the account functionality").
Of course, his main goal with this lie was to hide their covert block on the crypto withdrawals of the account that he confessed was imposed on the beginning of 2018.
This was a clear lie, against his own public declarations on this forum. And it was done against article 374 bis of the Italian penal code that establishes a crime which will be investigated by Italian judicial authorities without the need of any complaint. The Italian judicial system is the victim of this crime.
That he was capable of such a serious act is much worst than I thought he was capable of. He ruined his business and his life because of 35500 euros.
As soon as Opstart is aware of this, of course, they will cancel the raise of capital.
Please note [...]:
2) Aside withdraws, the account is operative.
2) Aside withdraws, the account is operative.
Of course, his main goal with this lie was to hide their covert block on the crypto withdrawals of the account that he confessed was imposed on the beginning of 2018.
This was a clear lie, against his own public declarations on this forum. And it was done against article 374 bis of the Italian penal code that establishes a crime which will be investigated by Italian judicial authorities without the need of any complaint. The Italian judicial system is the victim of this crime.
That he was capable of such a serious act is much worst than I thought he was capable of. He ruined his business and his life because of 35500 euros.
As soon as Opstart is aware of this, of course, they will cancel the raise of capital.
December 06, 2020, 07:24:25 AM
I just updated my previous post (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55725677) with a scan from a post from the Rock CFO on this forum where he is very clear that my account was fully functional (except withdrawals) on 26 June 2019, which is clear evidence that he lied to the Italian police when he said that they "on the beginning of 2018, presumably in association with the block of the account functionality").
Of course, his main goal with this lie was to hide their covert block on the crypto withdrawals of the account that he confessed was imposed on the beginning of 2018.
This was a clear lie, against his own public declarations on this forum. And it was done against article 374 bis of the Italian penal code that establishes a crime which will be investigated by Italian judicial authorities without the need of any complaint. The Italian judicial system is the victim of this crime.
That he was capable of such a serious act is much worst than I thought he was capable of. He ruined his business and his life because of 35500 euros.
As soon as Opstart is aware of this, of course, they will cancel the raise of capital.
Please note [...]:
2) Aside withdraws, the account is operative.
2) Aside withdraws, the account is operative.
Of course, his main goal with this lie was to hide their covert block on the crypto withdrawals of the account that he confessed was imposed on the beginning of 2018.
This was a clear lie, against his own public declarations on this forum. And it was done against article 374 bis of the Italian penal code that establishes a crime which will be investigated by Italian judicial authorities without the need of any complaint. The Italian judicial system is the victim of this crime.
That he was capable of such a serious act is much worst than I thought he was capable of. He ruined his business and his life because of 35500 euros.
As soon as Opstart is aware of this, of course, they will cancel the raise of capital.
December 02, 2020, 04:04:50 AM
Thank you for your explanation and addressing the propaganda by Andrea Medri. He is so stupid, he should be apologising to you but instead he is carrying on this silly game trying to make you look like a criminal when you are a victim of this tiny useless mini-exchange called Rock Trading
Rock CFO lies on his lying complaint II:
He confessed that they blocked the withdrawals of the account on the beginning of 2018 (he declared "on the beginning of 2018, presumably in association with the block of the account"; original Italian: "A partire dal 2018, pressoché in concomitanza con il blocco dell'operatività dell'account"), but it's a blatant lie that they blocked the functionality of the account.
He also writes that they only blocked my account after asking for a copy of documents and were confronted with a refusal, which is another lie: "richiesta la documentazione necessaria all'identificazione (...). Il soggetto in questione ha sempre rifiutato. Alla luce di ciò la Società da me amministrata è stata costretta a bloccare l'operatività del relativo conto".
They only blocked the withdrawals of the account, without informing about this block, and let me keep trading and depositing unaware of the withdrawal block until I complained in a ticket of 9 August 2018. I kept trading on until 2 of March 2018 and even entrapped more money with a deposit of XRP on 21 February 2018.
If they asked for the documents first and blocked only after, obviously, I would withdraw all the money on that instant!
The Rock CFO actually confirmed implicitly the covert block on his post here, made just two days after I created this thread and also complained against the covert block:
Declaring falsely that they blocked the complete functionality of the account on the beginning of 2018 and hiding that they didn't inform the customer of the withdrawal block are major lies that will cost him seriously. These lies ruin completely his complaint and determines criminal responsibility as deliberate lies on a judicial complaint under article 374 bis of the Italian Penal Code.
It's also a complete lie that I began alerting people to what they did in the beginning of 2018. This thread was the first thing I wrote and is dated 29 august 2018.
He confessed that they blocked the withdrawals of the account on the beginning of 2018 (he declared "on the beginning of 2018, presumably in association with the block of the account"; original Italian: "A partire dal 2018, pressoché in concomitanza con il blocco dell'operatività dell'account"), but it's a blatant lie that they blocked the functionality of the account.
He also writes that they only blocked my account after asking for a copy of documents and were confronted with a refusal, which is another lie: "richiesta la documentazione necessaria all'identificazione (...). Il soggetto in questione ha sempre rifiutato. Alla luce di ciò la Società da me amministrata è stata costretta a bloccare l'operatività del relativo conto".
They only blocked the withdrawals of the account, without informing about this block, and let me keep trading and depositing unaware of the withdrawal block until I complained in a ticket of 9 August 2018. I kept trading on until 2 of March 2018 and even entrapped more money with a deposit of XRP on 21 February 2018.
If they asked for the documents first and blocked only after, obviously, I would withdraw all the money on that instant!
The Rock CFO actually confirmed implicitly the covert block on his post here, made just two days after I created this thread and also complained against the covert block:
Sorry, while I can understand your point of view (...)
Declaring falsely that they blocked the complete functionality of the account on the beginning of 2018 and hiding that they didn't inform the customer of the withdrawal block are major lies that will cost him seriously. These lies ruin completely his complaint and determines criminal responsibility as deliberate lies on a judicial complaint under article 374 bis of the Italian Penal Code.
It's also a complete lie that I began alerting people to what they did in the beginning of 2018. This thread was the first thing I wrote and is dated 29 august 2018.
December 01, 2020, 07:50:45 AM
Rock CFO lies on his lying complaint II:
He confessed that they blocked the withdrawals of the account on the beginning of 2018 (he declared "on the beginning of 2018, presumably in association with the block of the account functionality"; original Italian: "A partire dal 2018, pressoché in concomitanza con il blocco dell'operatività dell'account"), but it's a blatant lie that they blocked the functionality of the account.
The Rock CFO himself confirms that he lied. Just check what he wrote on 26 June 2019:
To show him it's pointless to delete this incriminating evidence, I'm posting here a scan:
He also writes that they only blocked my account after asking for a copy of documents and were confronted with a refusal, which is another lie: "richiesta la documentazione necessaria all'identificazione (...). Il soggetto in questione ha sempre rifiutato. Alla luce di ciò la Società da me amministrata è stata costretta a bloccare l'operatività del relativo conto".
They only blocked the withdrawals of the account, without informing about this block, and let me keep trading and depositing unaware of the withdrawal block until I complained in a ticket of 9 August 2018. I kept trading on until 2 of March 2018 and even entrapped more money with a deposit of XRP on 21 February 2018.
If they asked for the documents first and blocked only after, obviously, I would withdraw all the money on that instant!
The Rock CFO actually confirmed implicitly the covert block on his post here, made just two days after I created this thread and also complained against the covert block:
Declaring falsely that they blocked the complete functionality of the account on the beginning of 2018 and hiding that they didn't inform the customer of the withdrawal block are major lies that will cost him seriously. These lies ruin completely his complaint and determines criminal responsibility as deliberate lies on a judicial complaint under article 374 bis of the Italian Penal Code.
It's also a complete lie that I began alerting people to what they did in the beginning of 2018. This thread was the first thing I wrote and is dated 29 August 2018.
He confessed that they blocked the withdrawals of the account on the beginning of 2018 (he declared "on the beginning of 2018, presumably in association with the block of the account functionality"; original Italian: "A partire dal 2018, pressoché in concomitanza con il blocco dell'operatività dell'account"), but it's a blatant lie that they blocked the functionality of the account.
The Rock CFO himself confirms that he lied. Just check what he wrote on 26 June 2019:
Please note [...]:
2) Aside withdraws, the account is operative.
2) Aside withdraws, the account is operative.
To show him it's pointless to delete this incriminating evidence, I'm posting here a scan:
He also writes that they only blocked my account after asking for a copy of documents and were confronted with a refusal, which is another lie: "richiesta la documentazione necessaria all'identificazione (...). Il soggetto in questione ha sempre rifiutato. Alla luce di ciò la Società da me amministrata è stata costretta a bloccare l'operatività del relativo conto".
They only blocked the withdrawals of the account, without informing about this block, and let me keep trading and depositing unaware of the withdrawal block until I complained in a ticket of 9 August 2018. I kept trading on until 2 of March 2018 and even entrapped more money with a deposit of XRP on 21 February 2018.
If they asked for the documents first and blocked only after, obviously, I would withdraw all the money on that instant!
The Rock CFO actually confirmed implicitly the covert block on his post here, made just two days after I created this thread and also complained against the covert block:
Sorry, while I can understand your point of view (...)
Declaring falsely that they blocked the complete functionality of the account on the beginning of 2018 and hiding that they didn't inform the customer of the withdrawal block are major lies that will cost him seriously. These lies ruin completely his complaint and determines criminal responsibility as deliberate lies on a judicial complaint under article 374 bis of the Italian Penal Code.
It's also a complete lie that I began alerting people to what they did in the beginning of 2018. This thread was the first thing I wrote and is dated 29 August 2018.
November 27, 2020, 03:52:55 AM
No problem and no need thank. I hope the tiny useless Rock Trading exchange will hopefully be shut down soon and hope its owners including Andrea Medri will be investigated by multiple law enforcement agencies so that they can work out how many people had their funds either seized without any reason.
JollyGood, thank you for making the Rock CFO confirm publicly what kind of person he is, by making him defame you again.
Just check how he blatantly lied to the Italian police on his lying complaint, which is a serious offense in itself: article 374 bis of the Italian Penal Code: 1 to 5 years in prison.
https://www.brocardi.it/codice-penale/libro-secondo/titolo-iii/capo-i/art374bis.html
He wrote: "since the mentioned account was dormant for certain years (about since 2014 to 2017), we demanded the necessary documents for the identification of the owner of the account". ("alla luce del fatto che detto account era rimasto dormiente per qualche anno (all'incirca dal 2014 al 2017), è stata richiest la documentazione necessaria all'identificazione del soggetto titolare dell'account").
Here is the evidence of trading in february of 2017. And I already posted a scan of a deposit on june 2017 here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51271058
The police will receive the full history of the account that shows constant trading also in 2014, 2015 and 2016.
He didn't even dare to deny that he was lying!
But this is just his first lie. I'll highlight all the others.
Just check how he blatantly lied to the Italian police on his lying complaint, which is a serious offense in itself: article 374 bis of the Italian Penal Code: 1 to 5 years in prison.
https://www.brocardi.it/codice-penale/libro-secondo/titolo-iii/capo-i/art374bis.html
He wrote: "since the mentioned account was dormant for certain years (about since 2014 to 2017), we demanded the necessary documents for the identification of the owner of the account". ("alla luce del fatto che detto account era rimasto dormiente per qualche anno (all'incirca dal 2014 al 2017), è stata richiest la documentazione necessaria all'identificazione del soggetto titolare dell'account").
Here is the evidence of trading in february of 2017. And I already posted a scan of a deposit on june 2017 here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51271058
The police will receive the full history of the account that shows constant trading also in 2014, 2015 and 2016.
He didn't even dare to deny that he was lying!
But this is just his first lie. I'll highlight all the others.
November 26, 2020, 08:49:11 AM
JollyGood, thank you for making the Rock CFO confirm publicly what kind of person he is, by making him defame you again.
Added 27-4-2021 to concentrate details on one thread:
The Rock Trading managed to get 1.5 million euros on a crowdfunding raise of capital using Opstart (https://www.opstart.it/progetto/digital-rock-holding/). But Opstart confronted the Rock CFO with this case, so in order to mislead it, on 28 October 2020, after more than 2 years of attempts to keep my money "forever", the Rock CFO presented a complain against me for "defamation" (really!) to try to look honest.
This was a crazy decision, so he lied in order to hide his actions:
I) He lied about the motive, saying that they blocked my account because it was dormant between 2014 and 2017. I have the full history of constant trading between 2014 and 2 march 2018. Check scans below of Rock support tickets opened on December 2014 and 2017 and trading during December 2016 and on several months of 2017.
Furthermore, the Rock CTO Paci and the Rock support system contradicted him, as each one invented his own illegal pretext for the block and never mentioned any dormant status lie. Check below a scan of the August 2018 ticket.
II) He said that they blocked the full functionality of the account in the beginning of 2018. He tries to hide that they only blocked covertly the withdrawals and left me trading and even entrapping more money for months, ignorant of the block. They only blocked completely the account on 2020. The Rock CFO confirmed this on a post of 26 June 2019, saying that "aside withdraws, the account is operative": https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51615058
Furthermore, the quoted 2018 support ticket answer says about granting withdrawals, which confirms also that the account was operative, except the blocked withdrawals.
Lying on a judicial proceeding (on a complain against his victim!!) is a crime under article 374 bis of Italian Criminal Code.
III) He published the complain (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55567763)
which in itself is also a crime, under article 684 of Italian Criminal Code and article 329 of the Italian code of criminal process, as confirmed by a high Italian court.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55970022
Of course, he also committed more breaches of privacy, by revealing illegally and unnecessarily again private information, including first name, gender and nationality.
IV) More lies he told: He said to the police they knew nothing about my case and that they had to go check all accounts to realize what my thread was about!! When I opened a ticket against their covert block and they received full information in August 2018, a few days before I created this thread.
V) He told the police that he tried to identify the owner by all means possible.
The Rock CFO never tried to contact the emails associated with the Rock accounts.
He received an email from an email account registered with the Rock Trading, signed with the names they have on file. He completely ignored the email for months. When he finally answered to confirm the identity, his only reaction was posting here in this forum almost all the private information he confirmed.
Lying to the Italian police on his lying complaint is a serious offense in itself: article 374 bis of the Italian Penal Code: 1 to 5 years in prison.
https://www.brocardi.it/codice-penale/libro-secondo/titolo-iii/capo-i/art374bis.html
He wrote: "since the mentioned account was dormant for certain years (about since 2014 to 2017), we demanded the necessary documents for the identification of the owner of the account". ("alla luce del fatto che detto account era rimasto dormiente per qualche anno (all'incirca dal 2014 al 2017), è stata richiest la documentazione necessaria all'identificazione del soggetto titolare dell'account").
Here is the evidence of trading in February of 2017.
And I already posted a scan of a deposit on June 2017 here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51271058
And another scan showing trading in December of 2017 here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51377323
The police will receive the full history of the account that shows constant trading also in 2014, 2015 and 2016.
He didn't even dare to deny that he was lying!
But this is just his first lie. I'll highlight all the others.
Edit-3/01/2021:
More evidence of activity and trading:
A ticket in December 2014
A ticked in June 2017, about the deposit I linked above:
And trading in December 2016/January 2017:
Qui sopra c'è la prova che il Rock Trading CFO ha mentito alla polizia sul suo motivo per bloccare il mio conto.
Ha dichiarato che il motivo per cui hanno bloccato il mio conto all'inizio del 2018 (la sua confessione) era che il mio conto era "dormiente" dal 2014 al 2017 circa. Il che è una menzogna totale. Ho continuato a fare trading tra il 2014 e il 2018 interrompendo solo due volte per circa 3 mesi e ho continuato ad effettuare il login.
Ho una cronologia completa delle transazioni e le scansioni. La polizia le riceverà.
Edit-15/01/2021:
More evidence of his lie about the motive for the covert block of the withdrawals being the account being "dormant" between 2014 and 2017.
Paci in August 2018, days before I created this thread, contradicted this. Paci wrote that the covert withdrawal block was because "Your profile looked suspicious to our internal automatic security checks"! The profile wasn't change since 2013! The police will receive a copy of this too.
But the Rock support contradicted him too and also invented another illegal pretext: they said it was because I made euro withdrawals, back in 2013, when their TOS explicitly allowed them.
They were saying that they blocked covertly my withdrawals in the beginning of 2018 because of small withdrawals I made on 2013!!
A covert block of the account withdrawals with three contradictory pretexts from the Rock!, all illegal and lying.
Here is a scan of this statement in their support answer to the August 2018 ticket:
Sto anche postando un'altra prova delle menzogne del direttore finanziario della Rock alla polizia, il suo falso motivo per il loro blocco segreto sui miei prelievi. Ha detto la bugia che il mio conto è rimasto dormiente tra il 2014 e il 2017.
Il CTO Paci di Rock lo ha contraddetto, ma anche il suo stesso sistema di supporto lo ha contraddetto e ha anche inventato un altro pretesto illegale: hanno detto che è stato perché ho fatto dei prelievi di euro, nel 2013, quando il loro TOS glielo ha esplicitamente permesso.
Dicevano di aver bloccato di nascosto i miei prelievi all'inizio del 2018 a causa dei piccoli prelievi che avevo fatto nel 2013!
Added 27-4-2021 to concentrate details on one thread:
The Rock Trading managed to get 1.5 million euros on a crowdfunding raise of capital using Opstart (https://www.opstart.it/progetto/digital-rock-holding/). But Opstart confronted the Rock CFO with this case, so in order to mislead it, on 28 October 2020, after more than 2 years of attempts to keep my money "forever", the Rock CFO presented a complain against me for "defamation" (really!) to try to look honest.
This was a crazy decision, so he lied in order to hide his actions:
I) He lied about the motive, saying that they blocked my account because it was dormant between 2014 and 2017. I have the full history of constant trading between 2014 and 2 march 2018. Check scans below of Rock support tickets opened on December 2014 and 2017 and trading during December 2016 and on several months of 2017.
Furthermore, the Rock CTO Paci and the Rock support system contradicted him, as each one invented his own illegal pretext for the block and never mentioned any dormant status lie. Check below a scan of the August 2018 ticket.
II) He said that they blocked the full functionality of the account in the beginning of 2018. He tries to hide that they only blocked covertly the withdrawals and left me trading and even entrapping more money for months, ignorant of the block. They only blocked completely the account on 2020. The Rock CFO confirmed this on a post of 26 June 2019, saying that "aside withdraws, the account is operative": https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51615058
Furthermore, the quoted 2018 support ticket answer says about granting withdrawals, which confirms also that the account was operative, except the blocked withdrawals.
Lying on a judicial proceeding (on a complain against his victim!!) is a crime under article 374 bis of Italian Criminal Code.
III) He published the complain (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55567763)
which in itself is also a crime, under article 684 of Italian Criminal Code and article 329 of the Italian code of criminal process, as confirmed by a high Italian court.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55970022
Of course, he also committed more breaches of privacy, by revealing illegally and unnecessarily again private information, including first name, gender and nationality.
IV) More lies he told: He said to the police they knew nothing about my case and that they had to go check all accounts to realize what my thread was about!! When I opened a ticket against their covert block and they received full information in August 2018, a few days before I created this thread.
V) He told the police that he tried to identify the owner by all means possible.
The Rock CFO never tried to contact the emails associated with the Rock accounts.
He received an email from an email account registered with the Rock Trading, signed with the names they have on file. He completely ignored the email for months. When he finally answered to confirm the identity, his only reaction was posting here in this forum almost all the private information he confirmed.
Lying to the Italian police on his lying complaint is a serious offense in itself: article 374 bis of the Italian Penal Code: 1 to 5 years in prison.
https://www.brocardi.it/codice-penale/libro-secondo/titolo-iii/capo-i/art374bis.html
He wrote: "since the mentioned account was dormant for certain years (about since 2014 to 2017), we demanded the necessary documents for the identification of the owner of the account". ("alla luce del fatto che detto account era rimasto dormiente per qualche anno (all'incirca dal 2014 al 2017), è stata richiest la documentazione necessaria all'identificazione del soggetto titolare dell'account").
Here is the evidence of trading in February of 2017.
And I already posted a scan of a deposit on June 2017 here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51271058
And another scan showing trading in December of 2017 here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51377323
The police will receive the full history of the account that shows constant trading also in 2014, 2015 and 2016.
He didn't even dare to deny that he was lying!
But this is just his first lie. I'll highlight all the others.
Edit-3/01/2021:
More evidence of activity and trading:
A ticket in December 2014
A ticked in June 2017, about the deposit I linked above:
And trading in December 2016/January 2017:
Qui sopra c'è la prova che il Rock Trading CFO ha mentito alla polizia sul suo motivo per bloccare il mio conto.
Ha dichiarato che il motivo per cui hanno bloccato il mio conto all'inizio del 2018 (la sua confessione) era che il mio conto era "dormiente" dal 2014 al 2017 circa. Il che è una menzogna totale. Ho continuato a fare trading tra il 2014 e il 2018 interrompendo solo due volte per circa 3 mesi e ho continuato ad effettuare il login.
Ho una cronologia completa delle transazioni e le scansioni. La polizia le riceverà.
Edit-15/01/2021:
More evidence of his lie about the motive for the covert block of the withdrawals being the account being "dormant" between 2014 and 2017.
Paci in August 2018, days before I created this thread, contradicted this. Paci wrote that the covert withdrawal block was because "Your profile looked suspicious to our internal automatic security checks"! The profile wasn't change since 2013! The police will receive a copy of this too.
But the Rock support contradicted him too and also invented another illegal pretext: they said it was because I made euro withdrawals, back in 2013, when their TOS explicitly allowed them.
They were saying that they blocked covertly my withdrawals in the beginning of 2018 because of small withdrawals I made on 2013!!
A covert block of the account withdrawals with three contradictory pretexts from the Rock!, all illegal and lying.
Here is a scan of this statement in their support answer to the August 2018 ticket:
Sto anche postando un'altra prova delle menzogne del direttore finanziario della Rock alla polizia, il suo falso motivo per il loro blocco segreto sui miei prelievi. Ha detto la bugia che il mio conto è rimasto dormiente tra il 2014 e il 2017.
Il CTO Paci di Rock lo ha contraddetto, ma anche il suo stesso sistema di supporto lo ha contraddetto e ha anche inventato un altro pretesto illegale: hanno detto che è stato perché ho fatto dei prelievi di euro, nel 2013, quando il loro TOS glielo ha esplicitamente permesso.
Dicevano di aver bloccato di nascosto i miei prelievi all'inizio del 2018 a causa dei piccoli prelievi che avevo fatto nel 2013!
November 23, 2020, 08:34:35 AM
Ah I see, that is the same moderator that was getting free hosting thanks to Rock Trading is making allegations against me?
For those interested, this thread explains things much better, it is titled "Unacceptable Behaviour By Forum Moderator HostFat & Rock Trading owner eliale": https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unacceptable-behaviour-by-forum-moderator-hostfat-rock-trading-owner-eliale-5126027
About Jollygood:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025233.msg50340436;topicseen#new (Bitcointalk moderator is declaring that Jollygood accepts rewards in exchange for his defamatory posts......)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025233.msg50340436;topicseen#new (Bitcointalk moderator is declaring that Jollygood accepts rewards in exchange for his defamatory posts......)
November 23, 2020, 07:28:06 AM
I hope the OP will get back the 4.88 BTC that the Rock Trading seized so evidently under false pretences and on top of that I hope the OP will get back interest that they would have otherwise accrued had their rightful funds been in their own possession.
Quote from: eliale on November 11, 2020, 10:35:53 AM
Dear readers,
this morning, as anticipated, we filed a formal criminal complaint for aggravated defamation against Coinfan.
Unfortunately, over the past two years, we have tried countless times to persuade the defendant to proceed with the identification for two simple reasons:
1) Verify that she was the real owner of the account
2) Comply with the regulations in force that require us to do this
Our requests turned out to be in vain. Several times we have urged Coinfan to take legal action against us with our aim of obtaining what is requested but, despite the fact that he has declared several times that he has done so, the waiting for the promised act continues.
At the same time, on this chat and in several others, the same has always maintained a seriously harmful and defamatory attitude towards us, hiding behind anonymity.
Consequently, unfortunately, our act is due in order to protect our interests, those of our members and show that we have nothing to hide.
At the following link G drive you will find a copy of the deed from which, for obvious reasons, we have hidden sensitive data: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AcIIsoWP5mcMCApKMMPtTokkXfS9eyIz?usp=sharing
In this folder, we will upload any relevant documents about the case.
We will shortly notify the legal department of Bitcointalk about the legal procedure. It is up to them to decide how to handle the fact.
We know that Coinfan will try to "hide" this statement by writing several messages after this. For this reason, unless bitcointalk decides to freeze this chat, we will resume our declaration from time to time.
As you can understand, we will not discuss this issue with the community as there is an ongoing judicial investigation but, we will limit ourselves only to updating you of any possible development
Andrea Medri
The Rock Trading srl
Dear readers,
this morning, as anticipated, we filed a formal criminal complaint for aggravated defamation against Coinfan.
Unfortunately, over the past two years, we have tried countless times to persuade the defendant to proceed with the identification for two simple reasons:
1) Verify that she was the real owner of the account
2) Comply with the regulations in force that require us to do this
Our requests turned out to be in vain. Several times we have urged Coinfan to take legal action against us with our aim of obtaining what is requested but, despite the fact that he has declared several times that he has done so, the waiting for the promised act continues.
At the same time, on this chat and in several others, the same has always maintained a seriously harmful and defamatory attitude towards us, hiding behind anonymity.
Consequently, unfortunately, our act is due in order to protect our interests, those of our members and show that we have nothing to hide.
At the following link G drive you will find a copy of the deed from which, for obvious reasons, we have hidden sensitive data: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1AcIIsoWP5mcMCApKMMPtTokkXfS9eyIz?usp=sharing
In this folder, we will upload any relevant documents about the case.
We will shortly notify the legal department of Bitcointalk about the legal procedure. It is up to them to decide how to handle the fact.
We know that Coinfan will try to "hide" this statement by writing several messages after this. For this reason, unless bitcointalk decides to freeze this chat, we will resume our declaration from time to time.
As you can understand, we will not discuss this issue with the community as there is an ongoing judicial investigation but, we will limit ourselves only to updating you of any possible development
Andrea Medri
The Rock Trading srl
November 23, 2020, 04:40:51 AM
November 23, 2020, 04:34:46 AM
About Jollygood:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/to-all-dt1-members-interesting-negative-feedback-from-jollygood-5260202
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/member-jollygood-of-bitcointalk-trust-abuser-and-general-imbecile-5229023
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mods-requesting-ban-for-jollygood-5190836
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/jollygood-constantly-spam-with-the-same-messages-5049155
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025233.msg50340436;topicseen#new (Bitcointalk moderator is declaring that Jollygood accepts rewards in exchange for his defamatory posts......)
and many similar ones (too many to list)
Thank you
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/to-all-dt1-members-interesting-negative-feedback-from-jollygood-5260202
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/member-jollygood-of-bitcointalk-trust-abuser-and-general-imbecile-5229023
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mods-requesting-ban-for-jollygood-5190836
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/jollygood-constantly-spam-with-the-same-messages-5049155
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025233.msg50340436;topicseen#new (Bitcointalk moderator is declaring that Jollygood accepts rewards in exchange for his defamatory posts......)
and many similar ones (too many to list)
Thank you
November 23, 2020, 04:25:10 AM
Reading the posts from the pathetic little boy who is the owner of the tiny little mini-exchange called Rock Trading that has been accused with solid evidence of selective scamming the OP
The same way he forgot to mention more trash in his previous post and edited it to add it, he also forgot the impact of the negative reviews that would be going his way and towards his tiny little exchange if a victim of their exchange opened a Scam Accusation thread against them.
Rock Trading has an alleged daily volume of just 2m euro and they are trying to defend confiscating 33,000+ euro that the OP should have had returned a long time ago. Today those 4.88 BTC that they Rock trading seized without justification is worth over 100,000 euro, they should return it to the OP.
The same way he forgot to mention more trash in his previous post and edited it to add it, he also forgot the impact of the negative reviews that would be going his way and towards his tiny little exchange if a victim of their exchange opened a Scam Accusation thread against them.
Rock Trading has an alleged daily volume of just 2m euro and they are trying to defend confiscating 33,000+ euro that the OP should have had returned a long time ago. Today those 4.88 BTC that they Rock trading seized without justification is worth over 100,000 euro, they should return it to the OP.
About Jollygood:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/to-all-dt1-members-interesting-negative-feedback-from-jollygood-5260202
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/member-jollygood-of-bitcointalk-trust-abuser-and-general-imbecile-5229023
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mods-requesting-ban-for-jollygood-5190836
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/jollygood-constantly-spam-with-the-same-messages-5049155
and many similar ones (too many to list)
Thank you
EDIT: I forgot the best:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025233.msg50340436;topicseen#new
Bitcointalk moderator is declaring that Jollygood accepts rewards in exchange for his defamatory posts......
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/to-all-dt1-members-interesting-negative-feedback-from-jollygood-5260202
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/member-jollygood-of-bitcointalk-trust-abuser-and-general-imbecile-5229023
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mods-requesting-ban-for-jollygood-5190836
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/jollygood-constantly-spam-with-the-same-messages-5049155
and many similar ones (too many to list)
Thank you
EDIT: I forgot the best:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025233.msg50340436;topicseen#new
Bitcointalk moderator is declaring that Jollygood accepts rewards in exchange for his defamatory posts......
November 23, 2020, 03:56:35 AM
What a pathetic little worm you are. Is this the best you could do? This is the sort of conduct a proprietor of a so-called world famous crypto exchange is supposed to exhibit?
Let us not forget ladies and gentlemen that the Rock Trading raised a miserly sum of 1.5m euro from their fund raising, that might seem a lot to some people but for a crypto exchange claiming to be so many years old they should be making that much profit and more on a weekly basis.
Look at Binance, they are trading multi-billions of USD$ worth of transactions daily and compare it to the Rock Trading with their alleged $2m per 24 hours: https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/therocktrading/
Let us not forget ladies and gentlemen that the Rock Trading raised a miserly sum of 1.5m euro from their fund raising, that might seem a lot to some people but for a crypto exchange claiming to be so many years old they should be making that much profit and more on a weekly basis.
Look at Binance, they are trading multi-billions of USD$ worth of transactions daily and compare it to the Rock Trading with their alleged $2m per 24 hours: https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/therocktrading/
About Jollygood:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/to-all-dt1-members-interesting-negative-feedback-from-jollygood-5260202
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/member-jollygood-of-bitcointalk-trust-abuser-and-general-imbecile-5229023
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mods-requesting-ban-for-jollygood-5190836
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/jollygood-constantly-spam-with-the-same-messages-5049155
and many similar ones (too many to list)
Thank you
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/to-all-dt1-members-interesting-negative-feedback-from-jollygood-5260202
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/member-jollygood-of-bitcointalk-trust-abuser-and-general-imbecile-5229023
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mods-requesting-ban-for-jollygood-5190836
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/jollygood-constantly-spam-with-the-same-messages-5049155
and many similar ones (too many to list)
Thank you
About Jollygood:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/to-all-dt1-members-interesting-negative-feedback-from-jollygood-5260202
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/member-jollygood-of-bitcointalk-trust-abuser-and-general-imbecile-5229023
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mods-requesting-ban-for-jollygood-5190836
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/jollygood-constantly-spam-with-the-same-messages-5049155
and many similar ones (too many to list)
Thank you
EDIT: I forgot the best:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5025233.msg50340436;topicseen#new
Bitcointalk moderator is declaring that Jollygood accepts rewards in exchange for his defamatory posts......
November 23, 2020, 03:22:05 AM
What a pathetic little worm you are. Is this the best you could do? This is the sort of conduct a proprietor of a so-called world famous crypto exchange is supposed to exhibit?
Let us not forget ladies and gentlemen that the Rock Trading raised a miserly sum of 1.5m euro from their fund raising, that might seem a lot to some people but for a crypto exchange claiming to be so many years old they should be making that much profit and more on a weekly basis.
Look at Binance, they are trading multi-billions of USD$ worth of transactions daily and compare it to the Rock Trading with their alleged $2m per 24 hours: https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/therocktrading/
Let us not forget ladies and gentlemen that the Rock Trading raised a miserly sum of 1.5m euro from their fund raising, that might seem a lot to some people but for a crypto exchange claiming to be so many years old they should be making that much profit and more on a weekly basis.
Look at Binance, they are trading multi-billions of USD$ worth of transactions daily and compare it to the Rock Trading with their alleged $2m per 24 hours: https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/therocktrading/
About Jollygood:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/to-all-dt1-members-interesting-negative-feedback-from-jollygood-5260202
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/member-jollygood-of-bitcointalk-trust-abuser-and-general-imbecile-5229023
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mods-requesting-ban-for-jollygood-5190836
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/jollygood-constantly-spam-with-the-same-messages-5049155
and many similar ones (too many to list)
Thank you
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/to-all-dt1-members-interesting-negative-feedback-from-jollygood-5260202
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/member-jollygood-of-bitcointalk-trust-abuser-and-general-imbecile-5229023
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mods-requesting-ban-for-jollygood-5190836
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/jollygood-constantly-spam-with-the-same-messages-5049155
and many similar ones (too many to list)
Thank you
November 23, 2020, 02:31:47 AM
There is a special place in hell for those types of people that cause so much pain and suffering to others and seemingly enjoy watching. I am in no doubt whatsoever that one day this pathetic little Rock Trading will be shut down by the authorities because of legal requests from multiple jurisdictions and the people controlling the company will have to answer questions after being arrested.
In the end one thing is for sure, Coinfan will get their crypto returned which at the time of being scammed was over 35,000 euro and whether that happens after stubborn petty little spoilt brat eliale willingly returns it with an apology (or is forced to do it after being humiliated in the Court and is instructed to do it), Coinfan will get their funds back.
Good morning,
some clarifications regarding the campaign with Opstart:
1) We confirm that Opstart has received at least a couple of emails obviously anonymous written in the confused style attributable to Coinfan
2) Opstart, as it should be, asked us for clarification to which we have given an answer
3) The legal department of Opstart closed the case, not finding a legal valid reason to open a dispute
4) Opstart is fully aware of our legal procedure against Coinfan
5) The Opstart campaign continued regularly and ended on October 30th (11 days before our complaint) without any reservations towards our Holding.
Thanks
In the end one thing is for sure, Coinfan will get their crypto returned which at the time of being scammed was over 35,000 euro and whether that happens after stubborn petty little spoilt brat eliale willingly returns it with an apology (or is forced to do it after being humiliated in the Court and is instructed to do it), Coinfan will get their funds back.
Thank you, Jollygood, for your continuous support.
The Rock CFO assured that he won't see the money from Opstart.it.
Beside denouncing his own actions on this case (of course, he hided the most damaging ones) to the police, he dared write blatant lies!! (more on this in due time)!
But he also denounced to the police and to the public that Opstart.it knows about all of this. He just informed all investors that Opstart.it knew.
I bet he didn't ask for permission from Opstart to write this on the "complaint". This is basically a betrayal of his own partner Opstart.
After trying to hide all his "legal problems" from Opstart, now he does also this. Opstart would have to be crazy to give him the money and risk law suits from the investors.
The Rock CFO assured that he won't see the money from Opstart.it.
Beside denouncing his own actions on this case (of course, he hided the most damaging ones) to the police, he dared write blatant lies!! (more on this in due time)!
But he also denounced to the police and to the public that Opstart.it knows about all of this. He just informed all investors that Opstart.it knew.
I bet he didn't ask for permission from Opstart to write this on the "complaint". This is basically a betrayal of his own partner Opstart.
After trying to hide all his "legal problems" from Opstart, now he does also this. Opstart would have to be crazy to give him the money and risk law suits from the investors.
Good morning,
some clarifications regarding the campaign with Opstart:
1) We confirm that Opstart has received at least a couple of emails obviously anonymous written in the confused style attributable to Coinfan
2) Opstart, as it should be, asked us for clarification to which we have given an answer
3) The legal department of Opstart closed the case, not finding a legal valid reason to open a dispute
4) Opstart is fully aware of our legal procedure against Coinfan
5) The Opstart campaign continued regularly and ended on October 30th (11 days before our complaint) without any reservations towards our Holding.
Thanks
About Jollygood:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/to-all-dt1-members-interesting-negative-feedback-from-jollygood-5260202
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/member-jollygood-of-bitcointalk-trust-abuser-and-general-imbecile-5229023
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mods-requesting-ban-for-jollygood-5190836
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/jollygood-constantly-spam-with-the-same-messages-5049155
and many similar ones (too many to list)
Thank you
November 21, 2020, 04:04:32 PM
Thanks for your posts r34tr783tr78 and JollyGood.
The Rock CFO lied to the Italian Police:
I) Lie about the motive:
He wrote on the complaint that the reason why they blocked my account at the beginning of 2018 (his confession) was that my account was "dormant" from about 2014 to 2017. Which is complete lie. I kept trading between 2014 and 2018 only interrupting for about 3 months twice and I kept logging on.
I have a full transaction history and scans of it. The police will receive them.
Lying to the police is a very serious felony, especially on a complaint. And Lying against clear evidence was very a major mistake. But lying about his motive is even more serious.
It's clear evidence that their motivation was completely different. His covert block (that he hides), his public confession that he would keep my money "forever", their 3 year block and his attempt to deny the money they are blocking (under his alt account Marco777) confirms that he tried to appropriate my money under the pretext of verification.
That he now is having second thoughts won't save him. Failed attempt is punishable also.
This is just his first lie. There are many more!
P.S.
He is afraid of being caught. He started posting again with his alt account Marco777 after making the complaint (to try to hide to the police the connection). He can even delete the self-incriminating posts, I made several copies. It will be another confession.
The Rock CFO lied to the Italian Police:
I) Lie about the motive:
He wrote on the complaint that the reason why they blocked my account at the beginning of 2018 (his confession) was that my account was "dormant" from about 2014 to 2017. Which is complete lie. I kept trading between 2014 and 2018 only interrupting for about 3 months twice and I kept logging on.
I have a full transaction history and scans of it. The police will receive them.
Lying to the police is a very serious felony, especially on a complaint. And Lying against clear evidence was very a major mistake. But lying about his motive is even more serious.
It's clear evidence that their motivation was completely different. His covert block (that he hides), his public confession that he would keep my money "forever", their 3 year block and his attempt to deny the money they are blocking (under his alt account Marco777) confirms that he tried to appropriate my money under the pretext of verification.
That he now is having second thoughts won't save him. Failed attempt is punishable also.
This is just his first lie. There are many more!
P.S.
He is afraid of being caught. He started posting again with his alt account Marco777 after making the complaint (to try to hide to the police the connection). He can even delete the self-incriminating posts, I made several copies. It will be another confession.
November 20, 2020, 06:05:24 AM
The scammer medri crawled back from his hole and invented a complaint after 3 years of attempts to scam the OP. He ruined his scam of more than 1 million because of his scam of 35k. He also ruined his business and will have free holidays at expenses of the italian government. Good luck with covid on the italian jails scammer medri. They have some new partners its time to warn them about the Rock.
November 16, 2020, 05:37:45 AM
There is a special place in hell for those types of people that cause so much pain and suffering to others and seemingly enjoy watching. I am in no doubt whatsoever that one day this pathetic little Rock Trading will be shut down by the authorities because of legal requests from multiple jurisdictions and the people controlling the company will have to answer questions after being arrested.
In the end one thing is for sure, Coinfan will get their crypto returned which at the time of being scammed was over 35,000 euro and whether that happens after stubborn petty little spoilt brat eliale willingly returns it with an apology (or is forced to do it after being humiliated in the Court and is instructed to do it), Coinfan will get their funds back.
Good morning,
some clarifications regarding the campaign with Opstart:
1) We confirm that Opstart has received at least a couple of emails obviously anonymous written in the confused style attributable to Coinfan
2) Opstart, as it should be, asked us for clarification to which we have given an answer
3) The legal department of Opstart closed the case, not finding a legal valid reason to open a dispute
4) Opstart is fully aware of our legal procedure against Coinfan
5) The Opstart campaign continued regularly and ended on October 30th (11 days before our complaint) without any reservations towards our Holding.
Thanks
In the end one thing is for sure, Coinfan will get their crypto returned which at the time of being scammed was over 35,000 euro and whether that happens after stubborn petty little spoilt brat eliale willingly returns it with an apology (or is forced to do it after being humiliated in the Court and is instructed to do it), Coinfan will get their funds back.
Thank you, Jollygood, for your continuous support.
The Rock CFO assured that he won't see the money from Opstart.it.
Beside denouncing his own actions on this case (of course, he hided the most damaging ones) to the police, he dared write blatant lies!! (more on this in due time)!
But he also denounced to the police and to the public that Opstart.it knows about all of this. He just informed all investors that Opstart.it knew.
I bet he didn't ask for permission from Opstart to write this on the "complaint". This is basically a betrayal of his own partner Opstart.
After trying to hide all his "legal problems" from Opstart, now he does also this. Opstart would have to be crazy to give him the money and risk law suits from the investors.
The Rock CFO assured that he won't see the money from Opstart.it.
Beside denouncing his own actions on this case (of course, he hided the most damaging ones) to the police, he dared write blatant lies!! (more on this in due time)!
But he also denounced to the police and to the public that Opstart.it knows about all of this. He just informed all investors that Opstart.it knew.
I bet he didn't ask for permission from Opstart to write this on the "complaint". This is basically a betrayal of his own partner Opstart.
After trying to hide all his "legal problems" from Opstart, now he does also this. Opstart would have to be crazy to give him the money and risk law suits from the investors.
Good morning,
some clarifications regarding the campaign with Opstart:
1) We confirm that Opstart has received at least a couple of emails obviously anonymous written in the confused style attributable to Coinfan
2) Opstart, as it should be, asked us for clarification to which we have given an answer
3) The legal department of Opstart closed the case, not finding a legal valid reason to open a dispute
4) Opstart is fully aware of our legal procedure against Coinfan
5) The Opstart campaign continued regularly and ended on October 30th (11 days before our complaint) without any reservations towards our Holding.
Thanks
November 16, 2020, 02:59:39 AM
Thank you, Jollygood, for your continuous support.
The Rock CFO assured that he won't see the money from Opstart.it.
Beside denouncing his own actions on this case (of course, he hided the most damaging ones) to the police, he dared write blatant lies!! (more on this in due time)!
But he also denounced to the police and to the public that Opstart.it knows about all of this. He just informed all investors that Opstart.it knew.
I bet he didn't ask for permission from Opstart to write this on the "complaint". This is basically a betrayal of his own partner Opstart.
After trying to hide all his "legal problems" from Opstart, now he does also this. Opstart would have to be crazy to give him the money and risk law suits from the investors.
The Rock CFO assured that he won't see the money from Opstart.it.
Beside denouncing his own actions on this case (of course, he hided the most damaging ones) to the police, he dared write blatant lies!! (more on this in due time)!
But he also denounced to the police and to the public that Opstart.it knows about all of this. He just informed all investors that Opstart.it knew.
I bet he didn't ask for permission from Opstart to write this on the "complaint". This is basically a betrayal of his own partner Opstart.
After trying to hide all his "legal problems" from Opstart, now he does also this. Opstart would have to be crazy to give him the money and risk law suits from the investors.
Good morning,
some clarifications regarding the campaign with Opstart:
1) We confirm that Opstart has received at least a couple of emails obviously anonymous written in the confused style attributable to Coinfan
2) Opstart, as it should be, asked us for clarification to which we have given an answer
3) The legal department of Opstart closed the case, not finding a legal valid reason to open a dispute
4) Opstart is fully aware of our legal procedure against Coinfan
5) The Opstart campaign continued regularly and ended on October 30th (11 days before our complaint) without any reservations towards our Holding.
Thanks
November 15, 2020, 02:20:08 PM
Thank you, Jollygood, for your continuous support.
The Rock CFO assured that he won't see the money from Opstart.it.
Beside denouncing his own actions on this case (of course, he hided the most damaging ones) to the police, he dared write blatant lies!! (more on this in due time)!
But he also denounced to the police and to the public that Opstart.it knows about all of this. He just informed all investors that Opstart.it knew.
I bet he didn't ask for permission from Opstart to write this on the "complaint". This is basically a betrayal of his own partner Opstart.
After trying to hide all his "legal problems" from Opstart, now he does also this. Opstart would have to be crazy to give him the money and risk law suits from the investors.
The Rock CFO assured that he won't see the money from Opstart.it.
Beside denouncing his own actions on this case (of course, he hided the most damaging ones) to the police, he dared write blatant lies!! (more on this in due time)!
But he also denounced to the police and to the public that Opstart.it knows about all of this. He just informed all investors that Opstart.it knew.
I bet he didn't ask for permission from Opstart to write this on the "complaint". This is basically a betrayal of his own partner Opstart.
After trying to hide all his "legal problems" from Opstart, now he does also this. Opstart would have to be crazy to give him the money and risk law suits from the investors.
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