Topic: The situation with Ukraine and the accounts that supported the war. - page 7. (Read 2674 times)

This forum gives its members freedoms that are impossible in other places. Unfortunately, that freedom (of speech) allows anyone to think whatever they want and express those feelings openly. I said 'unfortunately' because no one in their right mind should support the shelling of civilian infrastructure, hospitals, nuclear power plants, etc. Ignore those whose opinions and thoughts you don't want to read. That's the best you can do. They will certainly not be banned for supporting the occupation unless they break other forum rules in the process.   

Sharing feedbacks for the discussions is not the appropriate use of trust system so anyone who did this may appear and let us know the actual reason but negative feedbacks maybe shared when someone is sharing false information so if you want to prove your statement then you can provide some proofs so they may review it because what media is showing maybe or may not be the ground reality.

But Ukraine president seems to realize that NATO is not going to help them so he already announced that he has no interest in joining the NATO, if he did this couple of weeks earlier the war may not be existed at all.

So when we find Putin has a bitcointalk account then we go and start leaving negative feedback to his profile and then ban him? Sounds like everyone is misunderstanding the trust system and misunderstanding the concept of bitcoin. Bitcoin does not understand Biden's language.

However, there was selfishness between the two leaders which led to war. I don't want to jump straight into politics where the information might not be relevant enough to the situation at hand, but the OP seems to be making a proposal to ban those who don't violate forum rules especially regarding free speech.

I agree that war must stop, everyone is against war in Europe, Asia, America and Africa. But when it comes to banning forum users, you really have to show proof that someone is guilty.

I do not think anyone is laughing and clapping, not even Asia where most of the counties did not vote and stayed neutral. Did you see how the price of gas is raising? This will affect every corner of the world not just EU and West. Another 2008 is just at our door if I am not exaggerating it.

Yeah, brothers. Like Cain and Abel, perhaps. When one kills the other out of envy.

Russia did not want Ukrainians to be independent people with sovereign territories long before the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union is only one stage in the destruction of Ukrainian identity, and the Russians not for the first time have tried to impose on us the idea that "we are one people."

You know, some things are impossible not to blame for and they can't be forgiven. For example, the death of a 1.5-year-old child who was shooted in Irpin' while his parents were trying to walk the false "green corridor" to leave the besieged city.

I think Ukrainians at the forum now think little about the impression seen by members from other countries. They are thinking about how to win the information war, which is being waged at bitcointals as well. Calls for peace without the full withdrawal of enemy troops from Ukraine do not lead to anything. The UN is doing the same. Did they help in any way? But now everyone knows that they are "concerned". The effectiveness just goes beyond scale.

The OP also got the same suggestion from some users in the previous reply and he also seems to quite understand how this rule is enforced on the forum especially Ratimov has explained it well in the Russian version thread. The OP doesn't seem satisfied enough with the existing answers and created another thread in the meta to find out how the rules really are, but unfortunately the user he thinks should be banned doesn't seem to be breaking any forum rules even though the OP disagrees with him.

There is one good board for discussing more Rusia - Ukraina wars and political issues and that is the Politics & Society board. You can discuss more things there but anyone who disagrees with you shouldn't get a negative tag because that's not how trust systems work. Imo

I don't understand one thing. This is a cryptocurrency forum. Why bring Ukrainian themes about the war here? If you don't like your opponents, just ignore them. The button is always available.
Another question is if you support your country, why don't you fight? Why are you inciting hatred where people do not participate in strife?
Everything should have its place. Those who need news about events in Ukraine today have a huge territory for this. Why bring the war here?

You should be aware that Russia and Ukraine are still brothers, the Soviet Union that divided you both, you shouldn't be hostile to each other and attacking, let alone writing war words on your account profile, for the Ukrainian and Russian sides, it seems that the impression is not good seen by members from other countries.

I don't want to interfere with Russia and Ukraine, especially regarding accounts here, you should here have to get along with each other, don't blame each other, you have to show the world you don't want this war to happen, not the other way around.

You know, behind all this there are parties who clapping and laughing, remember that peace is beautiful, think sportively.

I think this is a different situation. Some users of the forum do not just express their opinion, they broadcast propaganda stamps. This is not even their own position, this is what they repeat when they hear it on Russian television. It is unlikely that anyone will argue that it is engaged in a particular political interpretation. Moreover, in the situation of an already started war, such posts on the forum cease to be an innocent expression of opinion. They are becoming information weapons. A weapon that spreads fakes. YouTube, Tik Tok and many other companies left Russia for this reason. Why can't bitcointalk do the same?

There are no doubt about it but just because someone has some different opinion, you can not just paint them in red in the forum. Think of in real life, would take any legal action or go to the police station because someone said something that you do not like? You would not. Besides in the case of Trust system, you are not practicing good use of the system if you leave a negative feedback without experiencing a bad trade with the guy and financially effected by the trade.

I was able to see the translations by the way.

He has given feedback to a few of the accounts. I used google translation to understand them. This is not the right way to use a trust system as everyone has the right to their own opinions.  Also, on the other hand, I think no one should support the war and killing of innocents.
   

Google translation:

So far I haven't found any references I can read from the feedback or negative tag you received and the ones you sent to all those profiles. I'm not sure if all of you have used the trust system in the right way because you guys differ on something that's not in the rules. But you only have a workaround to ignore that user (~) if you really don't trust them and report their posts for review by moderators if you find them inappropriate. Some of them may be banned if there is a death threat or something physically threatening, but the moderators will deal with it on a case by case basis.

To all replies above of not understanding the language, google translate is free you know.

For both parties who exchange negative ratings, seems you both misuse the purpose of the trust system, and I seconded the reply above, this seems not a bannable offense, unless admins change it's mind related to this and apply a new rule which I don't think they will do.

I don't think you'll get what you want. misuse of the trust system is not a bannable offense(at least as far as I know). supporting a war or posting false information regarding it is also not a bannable offense(again, at least as far as I know).

BitcoinGirl.Club is correct, this thread belongs to the reputation board

That's not how the forum works, and especially not how the trust system works. Members are not banned for feedbacks that is considered inappropriate, they just reduce their chances of getting on DT and their feedback doesn't count as much on the profile.

Your feedback is also not proper use, as written above and reduced your chances of getting into DT as well.

I personally cannot appraise this as I do not understand the language.

I don't understand the language of the feedback on your trust page but it seems both you and others are not using the trust system properly. Besides only recent trust rating I see on you is from a nonDT member. So there are nothing to be alarmed. But the feedback you sent to others (recent) do not seems appropriate use.

By the way, this seems a reputation thread not something to be in meta.

I live in Ukraine, fascist Russia has attacked my country, bombing cities and killing civilians.
I spoke out against it, they wrote deliberately false information that did not correspond to reality in my profile in the trust.
I am Ukrainian and against the war, we do not have fascists, the fascists - this is the  attacked us.
I offer an eternal ban to those moral freaks who wrote me a negative trust and continue to support the war and post deliberately false information on the forum.
This is information terrorism, terrorists must be stopped.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/n-5388395

The board of shame, these accounts support russia's war against Ukraine and disseminate deliberately false and untrue information, in every possible way support those scum who are for the war.
ser_trader Ban
Snork1979 https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/snork1979-2118956 / Stupid scum, spreading fake, constant threats and insults.
FS2018
Ddester / Stupid scum, spreading fake, constant threats and insults.
Excimer https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/excimer-2627630 /Stupid scum, spreading fake, constant threats and insults.
leonello https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/leonello-1218011 /Stupid scum, spreading fake, constant threats and insults.
be.open https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/beopen-986242 /Stupid scum, spreading fake, constant threats and insults.
lin_lin
ivan1975 https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ivan1975-220998 /Stupid scum, spreading fake, constant threats and insults.
Azrieli https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/azrieli-2357932 /Stupid scum, spreading fake, constant threats and insults. Ban
Xommy https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/xommy-1216644 /Stupid scum, spreading fake, constant threats and insults.
delfastTions https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/delfasttions-234281 /A stupid fascist who supports the war and spreads a lot of flooding, clogs the forum with stupid messages.
Demid66
KingScorpio
Tash
butcher_spam https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/butcherspam-995994 /Stupid scum, spreading fake, constant threats and insults.
mp3.Maniac https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/mp3maniac-1360880
senya-com
Veleor https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/veleor-1177936 / A stupid fascist who supports the war and spreads a lot of flooding, clogs the forum with stupid messages.
Branko https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/branko-1039574
lovesmayfamilis
Hhampuz / Keeps in his campaign shitposters delfastTions, that support the war. A real fascist and balabol! Never trust this user!
viljy https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/viljy-958449 /A stupid fascist who supports the war and spreads a lot of flooding, clogs the forum with stupid messages.
A-Bolt https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/a-bolt-33631 A stupid fascist who supports the war and spreads a lot of flooding, clogs the forum with stupid messages.
89tibkd / A stupid fascist .
nLockTime https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/nlocktime-65795 /Stupid statements, support and approval of the war and the killing of civilians.
Numeral https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/numeral-3468038 / Stupid statements, support and approval of the war and the killing of civilians.
BADecker https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/badecker-149737 / Stupid bot, propaganda of fascism, denial of russia's war against Ukraine.
DaRude https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/darude-89580 /Stupid statements, support and approval of the war and the killing of civilians.
tvbcof https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/tvbcof-29708 / Stupid statements, support and approval of the war and the killing of civilians.
Kriptonik https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kriptonik-1143284 / A stupid fascist who supports the war and spreads a lot of flooding, clogs the forum with stupid messages.
VKcams.com https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/vkcamscom-3486515 / Stupid bot, propaganda of fascism, denial of russia's war against Ukraine.
~Unknown01 /doubtfully
~s0nix
~thandie
~Poly#Crypto
bomj https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/bomj-1085174 / Stupid bot, propaganda of fascism, denial of russia's war against Ukraine.
CrGuerilla https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/crguerilla-835895 / Stupid bot, propaganda of fascism, denial of russia's war against Ukraine.
nullius https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/nullius-976210  /Added at my own request. The person is mistaken and confused in terminology. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60530156
Julien_Olynpic https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/julienolynpic-1166480 /A headless creature distributing merit to worshipers of fascism and mass murder.
baeva https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/baeva-3120651 /A headless creature distributing merit to worshipers of fascism and mass murder.
Sithara007 https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/sithara007-305398 / Another jerk who jerks off to russia and putin.
FutureBitcoin https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/futurebitcoin-592311 / Stupid troll with no opinion of his own.
Kobacheg  https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/kobacheg-2585013 /  Support for fascism, approval of the war and the killing of civilians.
FADESHADE https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/fadeshade-842567 / A fascist who approves of war and the killing of civilians and the destruction of civilian infrastructure.
awiator https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/awiator-1356833 / Stupid bot, propaganda of fascism, denial of russia's war against Ukraine.
cabron https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/cabron-844178 / Stupid statements, support and approval of the war and the killing of civilians.
xandry https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/xandry-382413 / Support and approval of fascism, war, genocide of Ukrainians, selective moderation of posts, deletes pro-Ukrainian posts, leaves all pro-russian nonsense. Not worthy of being a moderator and a person, never trust this user!
Xal0lex https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/xal0lex-1068464 / Support and approval of fascism, war, genocide of Ukrainians, selective moderation of posts, deletes pro-Ukrainian posts, leaves all pro-russian nonsense. Not worthy of being a moderator and a person, never trust this user!
andreyka10 https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/andreyka10-1105301 / Stupid bot, propaganda of fascism, denial of russia's war against Ukraine.
Shurik25 https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/shurik25-1164162  / Stupid bot, propaganda of fascism, denial of russia's war against Ukraine.
Volax https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/volax-2824878 / Stupid bot, propaganda of fascism, denial of russia's war against Ukraine.