If you work for NASA, any of its contractors, or just make a living reporting on space/science stuff or running a space themed blog, guess what. It is putting food on the table. Which is why I don't buy that we should gut NASA or science programs when the U.S. military gets a vastly larger budget and their business lately is basically to kill the people that our politicians have decided are our enemy. For the price of ten F-35 planes, we could probably feed and house every homeless American for a year and we wouldn't really miss those 10 F-35s even when you argue that we need a decent military to defend ourselves against genuine foreign enemies (and yes, they do exist).
One thing I equally gripe about is the advertising industry. Some corporations have a $1 billion-plus marketing budget to tell you that you aren't pretty enough, that you don't have enough stuff, that you can look sexy while eating this sandwich. When it gets down to it, I started this Youtube channel almost strictly for the purpose of sucking some of that money away from those marketing causes and steering it into causes I support.
Topic: The space launchings aren't putting food on your table. - page 2. (Read 10632 times)
I just don't feel like funding random people I don't know or care about to go fly in space. That's all I'm saying. If you wanna fund that nonsense, go right ahead. Just don't involve me. Is that too much to ask, or...
Are you this egotistical and self-centered with this girlfriend that you're proposing to? To the person who said we don't need taxes anymore: Do you pay for your own road repair? Do you fund your own police force? Your own fire department? No, I didn't think so. Your taxes pay for all of that and your view is very childish and naive.
I just don't feel like funding random people I don't know or care about to go fly in space. That's all I'm saying. If you wanna fund that nonsense, go right ahead. Just don't involve me. Is that too much to ask, or...
Let me vary your comment a bit.
I just don't feel like funding random people I don't know or care about to go do medical research.
I just don't feel like funding random people I don't know or care about to go do laser research.
I just don't feel like funding random people I don't know or care about to go do semiconductor research.
I just don't feel like funding random people I don't know or care about to go improve automobile safety.
I just don't feel like funding random people I don't know or care about to go improve crop yields.
Please explain WHY you should get to choose which of these your tax money is spent on - Please assume, for purposes of this discussion, that each of these options is impossible for you (or me) to understand without several years of training in the field.
Please explain why there should be tax money for anything.
When the country was a fledgling country back in the late 1700s or early 1800s, something like taxes might have been necessary. The only thing taxes do now is to let government people squander our labor.
Make all that stuff to be donations so that government learns to work within some kind of constraints - like a budget - like any other business has to.
I just don't feel like funding random people I don't know or care about to go fly in space. That's all I'm saying. If you wanna fund that nonsense, go right ahead. Just don't involve me. Is that too much to ask, or...
Let me vary your comment a bit.
I just don't feel like funding random people I don't know or care about to go do medical research.
I just don't feel like funding random people I don't know or care about to go do laser research.
I just don't feel like funding random people I don't know or care about to go do semiconductor research.
I just don't feel like funding random people I don't know or care about to go improve automobile safety.
I just don't feel like funding random people I don't know or care about to go improve crop yields.
Please explain WHY you should get to choose which of these your tax money is spent on - Please assume, for purposes of this discussion, that each of these options is impossible for you (or me) to understand without several years of training in the field.
I just don't feel like funding random people I don't know or care about to go fly in space. That's all I'm saying. If you wanna fund that nonsense, go right ahead. Just don't involve me. Is that too much to ask, or...
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Everyone knows that Photoshop was invented sometime in the 1990s. NASA took Photoshop and re-did their space and moon photos with Photoshop so that everyone would think that the shots were fake. Why did they do this? 'Cause they figured that all the new generation kids would feel a lot more excited about the new moon-shot project if they thought it had never been done before.
Even for you that's a new low.Everyone knows that Photoshop was invented sometime in the 1990s. NASA took Photoshop and re-did their space and moon photos with Photoshop so that everyone would think that the shots were fake. Why did they do this? 'Cause they figured that all the new generation kids would feel a lot more excited about the new moon-shot project if they thought it had never been done before.
Well, you didn't laugh. Do you think, then, that this is plausible?
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Everyone knows that Photoshop was invented sometime in the 1990s. NASA took Photoshop and re-did their space and moon photos with Photoshop so that everyone would think that the shots were fake. Why did they do this? 'Cause they figured that all the new generation kids would feel a lot more excited about the new moon-shot project if they thought it had never been done before.
Even for you that's a new low. Everyone knows that Photoshop was invented sometime in the 1990s. NASA took Photoshop and re-did their space and moon photos with Photoshop so that everyone would think that the shots were fake. Why did they do this? 'Cause they figured that all the new generation kids would feel a lot more excited about the new moon-shot project if they thought it had never been done before.
Fact is, if the moon landings were faked, then that means that the whole Space Race and the Cold War were both elaborate hoaxes. And that means in turn, that every aggressive action by both the USA and Russia against each other was also a hoax. The shit just gets exponentially more unlikely with every logical step, to the point that it becomes utterly ridiculous.
The more complicated things get, the more difficult it is to maintain them. For example, a bicycle is quite simple when compared with a car. Bicycle upkeep is a lot cheaper than a car, even if you can do a lot of things with a car that you can't with a bicycle.
The point? It is the same with math. One + 1 = 2... or does it? In real life it never does. Why not? Because there are no two things that are exactly the same. So, 1 + 1 is always 1 + 1. Now 1 + 1 = 2 flawed math works very well in simple things. But the more complex that things get, the harder it is to make the flawed math work in real life. The hoaxes get greater and greater, just like the complex machinery gets more difficult to maintain. But both of them break down.
It's all Photoshop. Those guys make a lot of money, that's for sure.
Suuuurrrreeee. It was all Photoshop. In 1968...
LOL....
Jeez. Do I have to explain everything to you guys? Everyone knows that Photoshop was invented sometime in the 1990s. NASA took Photoshop and re-did their space and moon photos with Photoshop so that everyone would think that the shots were fake. Why did they do this? 'Cause they figured that all the new generation kids would feel a lot more excited about the new moon-shot project if they thought it had never been done before.
Fact is, if the moon landings were faked, then that means that the whole Space Race and the Cold War were both elaborate hoaxes. And that means in turn, that every aggressive action by both the USA and Russia against each other was also a hoax. The shit just gets exponentially more unlikely with every logical step, to the point that it becomes utterly ridiculous.
The more complicated things get, the more difficult it is to maintain them. For example, a bicycle is quite simple when compared with a car. Bicycle upkeep is a lot cheaper than a car, even if you can do a lot of things with a car that you can't with a bicycle.
The point? It is the same with math. One + 1 = 2... or does it? In real life it never does. Why not? Because there are no two things that are exactly the same. So, 1 + 1 is always 1 + 1. Now 1 + 1 = 2 flawed math works very well in simple things. But the more complex that things get, the harder it is to make the flawed math work in real life. The hoaxes get greater and greater, just like the complex machinery gets more difficult to maintain. But both of them break down.
It's all Photoshop. Those guys make a lot of money, that's for sure.
Suuuurrrreeee. It was all Photoshop. In 1968...
LOL....
Jeez. Do I have to explain everything to you guys? Fact is, if the moon landings were faked, then that means that the whole Space Race and the Cold War were both elaborate hoaxes. And that means in turn, that every aggressive action by both the USA and Russia against each other was also a hoax. The shit just gets exponentially more unlikely with every logical step, to the point that it becomes utterly ridiculous.
The more complicated things get, the more difficult it is to maintain them. For example, a bicycle is quite simple when compared with a car. Bicycle upkeep is a lot cheaper than a car, even if you can do a lot of things with a car that you can't with a bicycle.
The point? It is the same with math. One + 1 = 2... or does it? In real life it never does. Why not? Because there are no two things that are exactly the same. So, 1 + 1 is always 1 + 1. Now 1 + 1 = 2 flawed math works very well in simple things. But the more complex that things get, the harder it is to make the flawed math work in real life. The hoaxes get greater and greater, just like the complex machinery gets more difficult to maintain. But both of them break down.
It's all Photoshop. Those guys make a lot of money, that's for sure.
Suuuurrrreeee. It was all Photoshop. In 1968...
LOL....
Fact is, if the moon landings were faked, then that means that the whole Space Race and the Cold War were both elaborate hoaxes. And that means in turn, that every aggressive action by both the USA and Russia against each other was also a hoax. The shit just gets exponentially more unlikely with every logical step, to the point that it becomes utterly ridiculous.
The more complicated things get, the more difficult it is to maintain them. For example, a bicycle is quite simple when compared with a car. Bicycle upkeep is a lot cheaper than a car, even if you can do a lot of things with a car that you can't with a bicycle.
The point? It is the same with math. One + 1 = 2... or does it? In real life it never does. Why not? Because there are no two things that are exactly the same. So, 1 + 1 is always 1 + 1. Now 1 + 1 = 2 flawed math works very well in simple things. But the more complex that things get, the harder it is to make the flawed math work in real life. The hoaxes get greater and greater, just like the complex machinery gets more difficult to maintain. But both of them break down.
It's all Photoshop. Those guys make a lot of money, that's for sure.
Thanks for agreeing with me.
Fact is, if the moon landings were faked, then that means that the whole Space Race and the Cold War were both elaborate hoaxes. And that means in turn, that every aggressive action by both the USA and Russia against each other was also a hoax. The shit just gets exponentially more unlikely with every logical step, to the point that it becomes utterly ridiculous.
The more complicated things get, the more difficult it is to maintain them. For example, a bicycle is quite simple when compared with a car. Bicycle upkeep is a lot cheaper than a car, even if you can do a lot of things with a car that you can't with a bicycle.
The point? It is the same with math. One + 1 = 2... or does it? In real life it never does. Why not? Because there are no two things that are exactly the same. So, 1 + 1 is always 1 + 1. Now 1 + 1 = 2 flawed math works very well in simple things. But the more complex that things get, the harder it is to make the flawed math work in real life. The hoaxes get greater and greater, just like the complex machinery gets more difficult to maintain. But both of them break down.
It's all Photoshop. Those guys make a lot of money, that's for sure.
Fact is, if the moon landings were faked, then that means that the whole Space Race and the Cold War were both elaborate hoaxes. And that means in turn, that every aggressive action by both the USA and Russia against each other was also a hoax. The shit just gets exponentially more unlikely with every logical step, to the point that it becomes utterly ridiculous.
The more complicated things get, the more difficult it is to maintain them. For example, a bicycle is quite simple when compared with a car. Bicycle upkeep is a lot cheaper than a car, even if you can do a lot of things with a car that you can't with a bicycle.
The point? It is the same with math. One + 1 = 2... or does it? In real life it never does. Why not? Because there are no two things that are exactly the same. So, 1 + 1 is always 1 + 1. Now 1 + 1 = 2 flawed math works very well in simple things. But the more complex that things get, the harder it is to make the flawed math work in real life. The hoaxes get greater and greater, just like the complex machinery gets more difficult to maintain. But both of them break down.
So far you have brought up a number of assertions regarding the Moon Landings being fake. I shredded every one of them.
You still really don't see to get it - or you are a pathological liar.
I think the former.
Here is a bit of education on rocks.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Micrometeoroid
Micrometeoroids are very small pieces of rock or metal broken off from larger chunks of rock and debris often dating back to the birth of the Solar System. Micrometeoroids are extremely common in space. Tiny particles are a major contributor to space weathering processes. When they hit the surface of the Moon, or any airless body (Mercury, the asteroids, etc.), the resulting melting and vaporization causes darkening and other optical changes in the regolith. In order to understand the micrometeoroid population better, a number of spacecraft (including Lunar Orbiter 1, Luna 3, Mars 1 and Pioneer 5) have carried micrometeoroid detectors.
Rocks brought back by Apollo show at 100x - 1000x magnification, bunches of small craters. These can only have been made by direct impact of micrometeoroids at 50-100,000 foot per second velocities. They also show multiple layering of metal from metal vapor, such as would result from nearby hits.
Therefore, those rocks came from the Moon (and for other reasons, I'll exclude for brevity, they could not have came from anywhere else).
How did we get them? History and the records indicate that men landed on the Moon, picked them out, and brought them back.
If that is not so, then you tell us how we got them.
Fact is, if the moon landings were faked, then that means that the whole Space Race and the Cold War were both elaborate hoaxes. And that means in turn, that every aggressive action by both the USA and Russia against each other was also a hoax. The shit just gets exponentially more unlikely with every logical step, to the point that it becomes utterly ridiculous.
The more complicated things get, the more difficult it is to maintain them. For example, a bicycle is quite simple when compared with a car. Bicycle upkeep is a lot cheaper than a car, even if you can do a lot of things with a car that you can't with a bicycle.
The point? It is the same with math. One + 1 = 2... or does it? In real life it never does. Why not? Because there are no two things that are exactly the same. So, 1 + 1 is always 1 + 1. Now 1 + 1 = 2 flawed math works very well in simple things. But the more complex that things get, the harder it is to make the flawed math work in real life. The hoaxes get greater and greater, just like the complex machinery gets more difficult to maintain. But both of them break down.
So you think all of the possible geology on earth has been discovered examined already, right?
So you are ready to get on the stand and swear that you know first-hand that radar rocket tracking wasn't an elaborate hoax set up by covert, joint sciences from nations that had (or suggested that they had) technology to use radar this way?
Sure, Russia and the US in the middle of the Cold War were going to do that.So you are ready to get on the stand and swear that you know first-hand that radar rocket tracking wasn't an elaborate hoax set up by covert, joint sciences from nations that had (or suggested that they had) technology to use radar this way?
Come on, let's hear it. What did the Apollo 8 mission actually DO? I'm picking just this one as an example. Everyone knows the Saturn booster flew off the launch pad at the Cape, now you tell us. Where did it GO?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzCsDVfPQqk
I mean, you gotta understand, everyone would really like to know.
Let's go back a year or two. Here's Apollo 4, which was unmanned, and flew in 1967.
Where did this one go? What did it really do?
Just because I don't chase rockets around to see where they go, doesn't mean that anyone else is telling the truth about where they went.
You just hate the US government, right? This is just something else you can claim they lie about.
That's all that's really going on with you.
So you followed the Apollos up in another rocket to see exactly where they went, right?
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Your stand on this is ridiculous. Either put up or shut up.
My my. How temperamental.
How do I know where those rockets went? Perhaps you really do know. But maybe you only think you know. Relax. Try to not go off in a tizzy. We need you in the Islam threads.
Fact is, if the moon landings were faked, then that means that the whole Space Race and the Cold War were both elaborate hoaxes. And that means in turn, that every aggressive action by both the USA and Russia against each other was also a hoax. The shit just gets exponentially more unlikely with every logical step, to the point that it becomes utterly ridiculous.
So you think all of the possible geology on earth has been discovered examined already, right?
So you are ready to get on the stand and swear that you know first-hand that radar rocket tracking wasn't an elaborate hoax set up by covert, joint sciences from nations that had (or suggested that they had) technology to use radar this way?
Sure, Russia and the US in the middle of the Cold War were going to do that.So you are ready to get on the stand and swear that you know first-hand that radar rocket tracking wasn't an elaborate hoax set up by covert, joint sciences from nations that had (or suggested that they had) technology to use radar this way?
Come on, let's hear it. What did the Apollo 8 mission actually DO? I'm picking just this one as an example. Everyone knows the Saturn booster flew off the launch pad at the Cape, now you tell us. Where did it GO?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzCsDVfPQqk
I mean, you gotta understand, everyone would really like to know.
Let's go back a year or two. Here's Apollo 4, which was unmanned, and flew in 1967.
Where did this one go? What did it really do?
Just because I don't chase rockets around to see where they go, doesn't mean that anyone else is telling the truth about where they went.
You just hate the US government, right? This is just something else you can claim they lie about.
That's all that's really going on with you.
So you followed the Apollos up in another rocket to see exactly where they went, right?
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Your stand on this is ridiculous. Either put up or shut up.
Just to feed the troll I will post a picture here:
Apollo 15: Follow the Tracks by NASA Goddard Space Flight Center @Flickr
Apollo 15: Follow the Tracks by NASA Goddard Space Flight Center @Flickr
Wow! You have actually found a real, live, honest and true NASA picture that shows the arrows and words that are engraved into the actual surface of the moon? Wild! And here I thought that we needed proof that people went to the moon.
So you think all of the possible geology on earth has been discovered examined already, right?
So you are ready to get on the stand and swear that you know first-hand that radar rocket tracking wasn't an elaborate hoax set up by covert, joint sciences from nations that had (or suggested that they had) technology to use radar this way?
Sure, Russia and the US in the middle of the Cold War were going to do that.So you are ready to get on the stand and swear that you know first-hand that radar rocket tracking wasn't an elaborate hoax set up by covert, joint sciences from nations that had (or suggested that they had) technology to use radar this way?
Come on, let's hear it. What did the Apollo 8 mission actually DO? I'm picking just this one as an example. Everyone knows the Saturn booster flew off the launch pad at the Cape, now you tell us. Where did it GO?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzCsDVfPQqk
I mean, you gotta understand, everyone would really like to know.
Let's go back a year or two. Here's Apollo 4, which was unmanned, and flew in 1967.
Where did this one go? What did it really do?
Just because I don't chase rockets around to see where they go, doesn't mean that anyone else is telling the truth about where they went.
You just hate the US government, right? This is just something else you can claim they lie about.
That's all that's really going on with you.
So you followed the Apollos up in another rocket to see exactly where they went, right?
The government is nothing but paperwork. It doesn't lie or tell the truth all by itself. It is the people of government who tell the truth or lie, sometimes using the paperwork. You seem to love sensationalism rather than the truth.
Just to feed the troll I will post a picture here:
Apollo 15: Follow the Tracks by NASA Goddard Space Flight Center @Flickr
Apollo 15: Follow the Tracks by NASA Goddard Space Flight Center @Flickr
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