Topic: The Story of Bob Surplus - page 11. (Read 54996 times)

But the point is, he knew about the fake ICO only while it was funding and not before. And I read the unmoderated thread, he was refusing to discuss details with trolls. But very few people at Blackcoin blame him... there was obviously more at stake than his own reputation. Like literally investors and BTER. What did you expect the guy to stop the project the second after it funded? The results would have been identical. In fact, the community outburst would have probably been worse! 

I dont see how David was legally obligated to blow the whistle on BTER. And besides, he did come forward about it later.

Also there isnt any laws regulating cryptocurrency

And so you are saying that "pumpers" should not stay in the coin. OK sure. Except there is one fatal flaw in your logic. Bob and Ryan never pumped BitSwift or BitBay. They did an ICO which was taking coins directly from investors. And considering Bob got 500 BTC from his group, he didn't actually "pump" to get that 500 BTC because it wasn't his money to begin with.

So that is just outright theft. Because that 500 BTC should have gone back into the project since it was funded by legitimate investors.

If it was a "pump" then Bob and Ryan would have had to sacrifice their own BTC. But they clearly did not.

Spare us all the hysteria bud. It's clear you know nothing about the vulnerabilty that was in the wallet. And if you think that wasn't a vulnerability you should probably be having someone else look after your dat files.

As for David not knowing about the fake ICO, he has said himself he knew about the fake BTC at Bter and said nothing. His posts in your thread show him lying for weeks about how much he got, when he got it, and what it was for.

As for your idea that pumpers should have "stayed involved" with SWIFT, get a clue. Pumpers are not long term care givers.That's not how they work. So dry your tears son.

As for coding, you don't know jack shit about my backround, so stop making a silly, whining fool of yourself. And the people who are "ruining crypto" ?

Sad, deluded fools such as yourself who believe blindly in your Great Leader despite overwhelming evidence of fraud and theft.  You make these people possible.

Great story OP, is there a cult classic flick in the near future

what a great story, I'll tell it to my grandson before he's go to bed!!

Ahhhh now your true colors come thru. David Fanboy.

Maybe is you didn't have your head so far up his ass (and Paul's apparently) you might be able to see some daylight and actually work with facts. Like -

- Bay wallet was delivered twice with back doors that zimbeck knew about. He even posted that the expoits were coming via his own ftp and 'he did not know how to stop them"  But in your fanboy world everything is the fault of anyone but david. Even when he himself admits the source of the exploits. Nope, it must all  be a part of the giant conspiracy against your Great Leader.

- Smart contracts were broken. Your first post insisted they were working and the wallets were delivered on time. This is wrong little fanboy. The wallets were both way late. The help files were all broken. Smart contracts did not work. The thread was full of people whose transactions were disappearing, and whose attempts at contracting failed.  He dropped the wallet knowing the chat panel was back doored and wide open. There were a half dozen things wrong with that wallet - but not in fanboy world, right?

- Your Paul is god rah rah is just pathetic. Ask all the people who got burned in the pumps he engineered together with bob on lxc, xst etc. You are on here painting him like a saint? He was neck deep in arranging the fake ICO of Swift for over a month.  Wasn't until he and bob fell out that he suddenly switched moral ships. By your logic, murderers should go free if they just adopt their victim's children.  And let's see, what other project was started simultaneously, while your saintly Paul was leading Bob's group?  Ahhhh yes. Block Net. I wonder what has not seen the light of day there -  an active pump leader in Bobs group being a part of the Block Net start up.....?

- That Librex story in the OP is only half true. Left out the part about Paul dumping on his own crew the 1st 24 hrs to build his own stack for battle. Not much difference between him and Bob really. 'cept paul is clearly more skilled at making his shit smell better. With help from guys like you.  Bob screwed his own crew so bad no one is sticking up for him. That's the only difference i see here.

But in your moral world, guys like Paul, and a guy like Zimbeck who knew for months about the fake ICO and lied to you - the BC community - for weeks between Nov 1 and Nov 27 about everything - his knowledge, his real involvement, how much he had been paid etc etc. in more than 20 seperate posts on your own thread -    -   these guys get a pass, while you want to see Lin and Bob and Steve and Gekko nailed to the cross.

Bit of a selective moral universe you got going.

Good to see that somebody knows their shit.

The OP is impressive, @The Sound and Fury, especially the first half. You should take a deep and deserved bow for that.
I'll even close one eye at the excessive intermezzos and purple proses.
However, you seem to be missing several pertinent points concerning Greek tragedies - pride at the Gods, catharsis, and ultimately (most importantly), the nobility of the redeemed but still tragic hero.

That Bob Surplus is the tragic hero of your tale is clear; that your eyes see favor with several of his lieutenants (of which you appear to be one) is perhaps a reminder of the esteem received by Idomeneus, Nestor and Palamedes during the brutal Trojan War while serving the psychopathic Spartan king Menelaus.

But Bob Surplus, his lieutenants and the foot soldiers - or rather ronins - are not tragic, misunderstood heroes. The lot of you, starry-eyed brothers-in-arms,  are not even mercenaries. You are thieves, sophisticated ones no doubt, but still no different from your street brethren. The BTCs all of you made were on the back of lies and deception. You guys, to put it very frankly, are part of the disease that is destroying crypto. Every single one of you.

Forgive me for being so blunt, but this entire piece seems to be an elaborate PR spin to absolve Bob Surplus et al over the BitSwift debacle. An excuse to permit Bob Surplus to reappear without being hounded for compensation by his ronins. Snigger. There is no honor among thieves, despite protestations to the contrary and cries of omerta!. And the only Renaissance metaphor that comes to mind here is Machiavellian in nature, in its most corrupted and depraved form.

Speaking of noble ronins, I'm quite sure that none of the ronins of Kamakura shogunate paid a one-time registration fee of 1BTC to be part of a gang of fraudsters. So instead of ronin, may I suggest a more appropriate term - greedy, immoral schmucks.

In my experience, losers tend to have more character than honest winners. Dishonest and unscrupulous winners, on the other hand, have no character at all. In fact, some of them are sociopaths. Based on your descriptions alone, I'd say it's fairly certain Bob Surplus is a sociopath.

I apologize again for being so harsh, but this needed to be said. Before I leave, I have two questions:

(i) Cambodia: I find the entire account to be hilarious. Did no one conduct preliminary groundwork before setting up shop there? Are the whole Surplus and BitSwift crews completely and utterly detached from the real world? And even after the fact, did no one think of hiring headhunters?  Considering the presence of several dozens universities there, I find it impossible to believe the entire country had no programmers for hire. If a salary of $80 is enough to support six family members AND pay for college expenses, I can't imagine salary being an issue

(ii) What role did Lin/BTER have/played on the whole saga? After the NXT robbery a few months ago, I've always had a few nagging questions about him.

In the spirit of the season, I'll leave you with a beautiful rendition of Ave Maria as salve to soothe your open wounds. But fear not, your affection of Bob would've surely caught his eyes, and you will be part of his next caper. After all, as you've pointed out, SSDD. Happy Holidays!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5hjf4i3DY0

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9944910

A movie shot primarily in a fat geek's basement is not going to do well.

This piece should be quoted anytime blind followers start spouting garbage to claim how awesome their coin is.

Very fun read.  Very sad story about the state of crypto.

I think in 10 years this could be a classic story and turned into a movie. hahaha

Not endorsing but just pointing out that XMR was built on a scam coin.

The hero in our story should now be called Bob Deficit