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Dooglus! First time i've seen some of your posts ..

I can vouch for this man with the sock~hand profile pic, he is legit, have done many transactions with him on JD, never got scammed or anything funky..

btw, hope clam price picks up again  Tongue
legendary
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QuickSellers self serving snipps sure seem suspicious...

Before:
I told him about the exploit and asked what it was worth.

He suggested 0.2 BTC, I asked for 1 BTC. He agreed.

That's pretty much the whole story.

Except then he changed his mind about the payment because I gave his site a low trust rating (because I don't have a reason to trust it) and a low community rating (because it didn't even have on-site chat), and because of some wall-of-text conspiracy theory about Arrogant that I didn't really bother to read.

I don't see where blackmail comes in to it. There was something like "if you apologise we will reconsider paying you" but fuck that. I have nothing to apologise for.


After:
I told him about the exploit and asked what it was worth.

He suggested 0.2 BTC, I asked for 1 BTC. He agreed.

--snip--

I don't see where blackmail comes in to it.

--snip--



Edit:  holy shit, I thought this was Quicksellers "Dooglus supports ponzi" thread and "Episode II" was titled "The truth about Dooglus and his pawn Arrogant. " Did someone bump and delete?

I think the latest installment of QS' hit show "clutching at straws" featured a link to this thread. That's probably how you ended up here.
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QuickSellers self serving snipps sure seem suspicious...

Before:
I told him about the exploit and asked what it was worth.

He suggested 0.2 BTC, I asked for 1 BTC. He agreed.

That's pretty much the whole story.

Except then he changed his mind about the payment because I gave his site a low trust rating (because I don't have a reason to trust it) and a low community rating (because it didn't even have on-site chat), and because of some wall-of-text conspiracy theory about Arrogant that I didn't really bother to read.

I don't see where blackmail comes in to it. There was something like "if you apologise we will reconsider paying you" but fuck that. I have nothing to apologise for.


After:
I told him about the exploit and asked what it was worth.

He suggested 0.2 BTC, I asked for 1 BTC. He agreed.

--snip--

I don't see where blackmail comes in to it.

--snip--



Edit:  holy shit, I thought this was Quicksellers "Dooglus supports ponzi" thread and "Episode II" was titled "The truth about Dooglus and his pawn Arrogant. " Did someone bump and delete?
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 until Bazza from Pocket Rockets Casino worked it out.


You are kidding me right ?



It would take all kinds of stupid operators to try and drain the bankroll like you suggest though. There are a lot of tracking sites that show that honest sites like Pocket Rockets Casino are at almost the expected EV compared to wagered amount while some of the sites you feel are trustworthy were closer to 30% EV.




As for this, it obviously doesn't also mean that you are running it honestly. PRC has always been way below the 1% of wagered in profits.
Only until AK lost all the coins on PRC and Primedice(rumoured to be investor coins  of diceninja ) . So as long as the profit is going up, its easy for the casino operators to keep taking cuts by wagering against the investors, and you could very well be doing it.

Since I have seen you go back on your word of paying me the 1 BTC big bounty, not paying dooglus the bounty for finding the critical bug, not paying Bay his affliates, and banning Melds who stole penny faucet from you  , I always come to think of you as the person who would steal from investor profits, and would never be surprised if you do.
legendary
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Debatable. What's to say if he was involved in that site that he didn't play against investors on that site or even on Just Dice before it? You can't disprove that. How would you know? No one seemed to know (even though it was the most obvious scam site to appear on the scene) that DiceBitcoin was skipping nonces until Bazza from Pocket Rockets Casino worked it out. So if it was dooglus or whoever then they were obviously trying to gain as much as possible before and hoping they wouldn't get caught.

I thought we had a truce. That means you don't get to be an asshole to me. You can't prove that you don't fuck your grandmother, so what's your point? And how was dicebitco.in an obvious scam before their cheating became apparent? It looked like the real deal to me. I thought you were just saying it was a scam because they were so much more successful than your site. Did you actually have a reason to think they were a scam?

I had nothing to do with dicebitco.in as you well know.  Cheating players on a provably fair site is clearly stupid since it is easily detectable. When you have investors you can cheat undetectably it just makes no sense at all. And wasn't in Finn who found the nonce-skipping issue not Bazza?

It would take all kinds of stupid operators to try and drain the bankroll like you suggest though. There are a lot of tracking sites that show that honest sites like Pocket Rockets Casino are at almost the expected EV compared to wagered amount while some of the sites you feel are trustworthy were closer to 30% EV.

Just-Dice profit is at 160% of EV, so again your point is moot. The variance is huge at 1% dice sites, so there's nothing suspicious about a site having half or double their expected profit. Even PRC's profit was negative not so long ago.

I think you took my post the wrong way. I was basically saying that he can't prove what any site owner could be doing, referring to Dicebitcoin actually having code written specifically to steal money from players. Not aimed at you or JD. If you seen the stats for a lot of sites on omhapokers website or NLNicos most are well below expected profit (though a few have been removed now it seems)
legendary
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Debatable. What's to say if he was involved in that site that he didn't play against investors on that site or even on Just Dice before it? You can't disprove that. How would you know? No one seemed to know (even though it was the most obvious scam site to appear on the scene) that DiceBitcoin was skipping nonces until Bazza from Pocket Rockets Casino worked it out. So if it was dooglus or whoever then they were obviously trying to gain as much as possible before and hoping they wouldn't get caught.

I thought we had a truce. That means you don't get to be an asshole to me. You can't prove that you don't fuck your grandmother, so what's your point? And how was dicebitco.in an obvious scam before their cheating became apparent? It looked like the real deal to me. I thought you were just saying it was a scam because they were so much more successful than your site. Did you actually have a reason to think they were a scam?

I had nothing to do with dicebitco.in as you well know.  Cheating players on a provably fair site is clearly stupid since it is easily detectable. When you have investors you can cheat undetectably it just makes no sense at all. And wasn't in Finn who found the nonce-skipping issue not Bazza?

It would take all kinds of stupid operators to try and drain the bankroll like you suggest though. There are a lot of tracking sites that show that honest sites like Pocket Rockets Casino are at almost the expected EV compared to wagered amount while some of the sites you feel are trustworthy were closer to 30% EV.

Just-Dice profit is at 160% of EV, so again your point is moot. The variance is huge at 1% dice sites, so there's nothing suspicious about a site having half or double their expected profit. Even PRC's profit was negative not so long ago.
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I'm sure we can both agree Dooglus is an intelligent guy, right? So if he was involved in the dicebitco scam and he is this bad guy you're portraying him to be, surely it would make more sense for him to have played against investors and slowly drained the bank-roll instead of skipping nonce's. Not sure if that has been said in previous pages of this thread but with that said, that proves to me right there that Dooglus had no involvement.

Debatable. What's to say if he was involved in that site that he didn't play against investors on that site or even on Just Dice before it? You can't disprove that. How would you know? No one seemed to know (even though it was the most obvious scam site to appear on the scene) that DiceBitcoin was skipping nonces until Bazza from Pocket Rockets Casino worked it out. So if it was dooglus or whoever then they were obviously trying to gain as much as possible before and hoping they wouldn't get caught.

It would take all kinds of stupid operators to try and drain the bankroll like you suggest though. There are a lot of tracking sites that show that honest sites like Pocket Rockets Casino are at almost the expected EV compared to wagered amount while some of the sites you feel are trustworthy were closer to 30% EV.


legendary
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I even tried to give him a payment for his help and time which he obviously refused.

That doesn't sound like me!
legendary
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TradeFortress was quite unpopular long before the "inputs.io" disaster as I remember things, [...]
I was?

I remember quite a few people here being on your case about various alleged "scams" before inputs went wrong. I could be wrong about that of course.
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I closed the thread. so I wouldnt announce it anymore, so just cause I had closed the thread, you neg me cause I didnt feel like sharing it no more.  You must have felt threatened by it.  Your neg is just a waste of energy and time and all your doing is making enemies.  you ought to be taken off the trust list.  Im sure there are many who agree.



it seems you are butthurt by the red trust that doog gave you

if you think he isnt right to be on default trust list, feel free to share it in meta boards

but i doubt people will agree with your opinion

butthurt from what?  Im not selling anything?  

IF you check my feedback I was still able to make trades.

Dooglus stop rating others on false fairy tale accusations.  People can make up there own minds, your no god to play judge.  Get off your horse pride shit.

you got away with the Dicebitco scam, but Im not blind.

I'm sure we can both agree Dooglus is an intelligent guy, right? So if he was involved in the dicebitco scam and he is this bad guy you're portraying him to be, surely it would make more sense for him to have played against investors and slowly drained the bank-roll instead of skipping nonce's. Not sure if that has been said in previous pages of this thread but with that said, that proves to me right there that Dooglus had no involvement.

Either way, when all of that dicebitco drama went down Dooglus helped me resolve the issue and I ended up getting my coins back that I wrongfully lost. I even tried to give him a payment for his help and time which he obviously refused. So in my eyes, Dooglus is not a bad guy.
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TradeFortress was quite unpopular long before the "inputs.io" disaster as I remember things, and everyone (sane) knew that pirate was running a Ponzi scheme. I'm not sure I like your insinuation that anyone with a good reputation must be bad. That's kind of twisted.
I was?
legendary
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Now that's libel [...]

Yeah but [...]

I didn't think it would be so easy to get you to admin that.

out of all the reputable dice owners you promoted them and recommended,

I participated in their forum signature campaign. As did many other people. Just-Dice was down and lots of people were looking for a dice site to invest in. At the time, dicebitco.in looked to me like they were the best available. There weren't many other options. PRC was having all kinds of problems at the time. I don't want to get into all that again, but I wouldn't have felt good about recommending them to anyone. As it turns out I was wrong, and dicebitco.in turned out to be a scam, and PRC is still going for now.

them if this was a judge you could have been a suspect in this crime and im sure you would have been tried in court.

Are you saying "if there was a judge you're sure there would have been a trial"? That's usually how it works. I don't think anyone was ever convicted of having the wrong ad in their forum signature. That's my only "crime" here. Note also that I only ran the ad in my signature for 1 month. After that (and before they were caught cheating) I removed it because I no longer felt OK advertising them. Many other people kept the site's ad in their signature even after the site was caught cheating.

Probably also pay damages if they did a big investigation and found that, they probably gave you money to do this and you wont at least admit that.

It's hard to follow your meaning, but there's nothing for me to admit. They gave me money for 1 month of signature advertising, and no other money. It seems like you're clutching at straws here because I pointed out your attempt to sell a broken betting system.

From what I saw, I made a judgement your a scammer that took advantage of the people, cause people wont think you do something bad, this was a crime, if you think about you can get away with it.  Im sure if there was an FBI investigation you would be shitting your pants. 

You're free to do that. You're wrong (again), but that's OK. Why don't you make a trust feedback for me showing your evidence. If you really have anything then maybe others will believe you. I would suggest having a literate adult read it over first so others can follow your meaning. And maybe leave out the bits about soiled underwear. Nobody wants that image.

The only thing you've convinced me of is that Dooglus is unfit to join a clairvoyant association.

I knew you were going to say that.

The evidence was when he recommended them so many times and brought them lots of traffic, way more then PRC had.  Why didn't he do the same for PRC?

The reasons are well documented on these very forums. I don't want to bring up that old war again. Basically I didn't like or trust PRC for many reasons.

show me reason how he was not connected?

You're asking for proof of a negative. How do you imagine it's possible to prove that anyone wasn't connected? Can you prove that you didn't receive money from them? And I was connected, in that I joined their forum signature ad campaign for 1 month. I also made sure to regularly point out that I didn't know who ran the site and didn't have any idea how trustworthy they were.
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@Duckydonald -- if you have any evidence (be it circumstantial or not) please bring it up. The only thing you've convinced me of is that Dooglus is unfit to join a clairvoyant association. Until then you're just a snotty kid upset about being -rep'd for trying to sell snake oil. Take it like man.  

again why would I be upset?  There is no damage done Grin

I have two businesses that are not tied to this website.

The evidence was when he recommended them so many times and brought them lots of traffic, way more then PRC had.  Why didn't he do the same for PRC?  You guys cant think and make sense of things.  The only way to bring true evidence if he gets tried and the fbi confiscates the computers and get data from the internet provider.  You guys are gullible.

Also Im sure the ones who feel this way have accepted there loss in a investment.
show me reason how he was not connected? as an investigator you have to look at all possibilities, since he was someone recommending them to bring them outstanding large traffic, again thanks to Doog it was possible. 

legendary
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@Duckydonald -- if you have any evidence (be it circumstantial or not) please bring it up. The only thing you've convinced me of is that Dooglus is unfit to join a clairvoyant association. Until then you're just a snotty kid upset about being -rep'd for trying to sell snake oil. Take it like man. 

i doubt he is a man at all, he is just a kid that is hiding behind his computer screen and keyboard that spew out lies without a solid proof to for his claim
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Dooglus stop rating others on false fairy tale accusations.

I posted a screenshot of the scammy post you made.

I guess it comes down to one of two things:

1) you know you can't beat the house edge, but claim that you can in order to rip people off

2) you falsely believe you can beat the house edge, and try to profit from others with the same false belief

I'm not sure which of the two possibilities looks better for you, but either way I think it's worth warning people that you were trying to sell a product that doesn't work (whether you knew it at the time or not).

People can make up there own minds, your no god to play judge.

No, I'm just a guy. I made my judgement based on the evidence I saw and everyone else is free to do the same. That's how it works.

Get off your horse pride shit.

I'm not sure what that means. I'm aware of gay pride, but not horse pride. Are you saying should come out of the stable?

you got away with the Dicebitco scam, but Im not blind.

Now that's libel. See, it's damaging AND false. As I've stated many times I was nothing to do with the dicebitco.in scam. From what I've read both manl and gerry are Greek.

Yeah but out of all the reputable dice owners you promoted them and recommended, them if this was a judge you could have been a suspect in this crime and im sure you would have been tried in court.  Probably also pay damages if they did a big investigation and found that, they probably gave you money to do this and you wont at least admit that. From what I saw, I made a judgement your a scammer that took advantage of the people, cause people wont think you do something bad, this was a crime, if you think about you can get away with it.  Im sure if there was an FBI investigation you would be shitting your pants. 
legendary
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Maybe he means "get off your horse, pride shit", though then I'm not sure what "pride shit" is.

Maybe. But I don't think "sucks at punctuation" justifies making new trust feedback. Smiley

Could "Pride Shit" be the horse's name?

Get off your horse, "Pride Shit".
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Get off your horse pride shit.

I'm not sure what that means. I'm aware of gay pride, but not horse pride. Are you saying should come out of the stable?

Maybe he means "get off your horse, pride shit", though then I'm not sure what "pride shit" is.
legendary
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Dooglus stop rating others on false fairy tale accusations.

I posted a screenshot of the scammy post you made.

I guess it comes down to one of two things:

1) you know you can't beat the house edge, but claim that you can in order to rip people off

2) you falsely believe you can beat the house edge, and try to profit from others with the same false belief

I'm not sure which of the two possibilities looks better for you, but either way I think it's worth warning people that you were trying to sell a product that doesn't work (whether you knew it at the time or not).

People can make up there own minds, your no god to play judge.

No, I'm just a guy. I made my judgement based on the evidence I saw and everyone else is free to do the same. That's how it works.

Get off your horse pride shit.

I'm not sure what that means. I'm aware of gay pride, but not horse pride. Are you saying should come out of the stable?

you got away with the Dicebitco scam, but Im not blind.

Now that's libel. See, it's damaging AND false. As I've stated many times I was nothing to do with the dicebitco.in scam. From what I've read both manl and gerry are Greek.
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I closed the thread. so I wouldnt announce it anymore, so just cause I had closed the thread, you neg me cause I didnt feel like sharing it no more.  You must have felt threatened by it.  Your neg is just a waste of energy and time and all your doing is making enemies.  you ought to be taken off the trust list.  Im sure there are many who agree.



it seems you are butthurt by the red trust that doog gave you

if you think he isnt right to be on default trust list, feel free to share it in meta boards

but i doubt people will agree with your opinion

butthurt from what?  Im not selling anything?  

IF you check my feedback I was still able to make trades.

Dooglus stop rating others on false fairy tale accusations.  People can make up there own minds, your no god to play judge.  Get off your horse pride shit.

you got away with the Dicebitco scam, but Im not blind.
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I closed the thread. so I wouldnt announce it anymore, so just cause I had closed the thread, you neg me cause I didnt feel like sharing it no more.  You must have felt threatened by it.  Your neg is just a waste of energy and time and all your doing is making enemies.  you ought to be taken off the trust list.  Im sure there are many who agree.



I agree.  I've been on this forum for some time now.  After reading this thread and being familiar with Dooglus history, I wouldn't feel right if I didn't give him a negative feedback at this point.  Dooglus, reap what you sow, that neg rep was well earned.  As they say there's blood in the water now, and it's Dooglus's, I invite others to join in.
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