Topic: The truth about Dooglus and his pawn Arrogant. - page 3. (Read 7297 times)

Rofl.  That's quite a lashing.  I can see why they want this thread  to go away.

I've heard this argument several times before and people seem to think it proves something.  In reality if he runs he loses his credibility, his fame, and any future influence he might have.  To many people that's worth more than money, some people are straight up attention whores, and doog fits that profile.  On another note, as far as the site goes, he can actively win as much as he wanted to using an alt account at any time, or manipulate it so most of the bankroll ends up as his in various accounts.  All without anyone having a clue, and while retaining his trust rating.  Why give that up either?  Read his replies in this thread with the fancy charts and all draw some conclusions from that as an exercise.  Klye's post isn't worth quoting directly, but in response.  The words of an infamous scammer don't mean much Klye, but that you're well supported on Just-Dice still, I think says something. The coin Clam itself, I wouldn't touch.  The few that have been claimed are heavily hoarded, and millions more are right now unclaimed in the hands of exchanges and such that very likely are just waiting for the right moment to claim and slowly dump onto bag holders.  Not a good coin to involve yourself in by any means.

I don't think anyone's really disagreeing with you.

The best people can do is "CLAM is a pump and dump" and "JD addresses all earned free CLAM". Neither is a very strong accusation of wrongdoing even if they were true.

i dont know why tis thread is still going. if doog was a crook he coulda ran with a ton of investors money when JD origianally shut down. who cares about a few coins. the guy is stand up IMO.

The guy has been totally discredited. He simply didn't want to pay for me reporting the bug, so he made excuses not to.

I didn't attempt to withdraw my winnings - I only exploited it to prove that it was possible, but left my "winnings" on the site.

Anyway, it's all just water under the fridge at this stage.

you sound mad that your bug was exploited, as if anyone isnt going to when they find it

I pump and dump 3-4 times day.


dooglus seed is best for pumping n dumping.



doog, like my new sig?

That's the kind of talk that gets CLAM labelled as just another pump-and-dump.

Nobody knows what the future holds for CLAM. It really depends on a bunch of unknowable things.

CLAM is one of the best altcoin with a high demand and good future.  Target price:0.05btc

Not exactly sure what I did to get poked at.

I've been around JD chat for well over a year.

I've done nothing but honest/good business, so you can blow it out your ass.

I provide free escrows ect... Free.

Don't group my business with Arros business please.... I've been trying to make a deal with him over a lap top for months.  Def not the easiest deal I've ever closed  


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Thank you for the honorable mention.
Now if you'd please not hide behind a fresh account that would be great.

JD is thee fucking shit, and you are jelly you aren't part of our team of "pump-a-dumpers and con artists".

Please go stick your dick in an outlet.

You're right that the initial distribution was to old bitcoin addresses, but it was only to the ones that were funded on a particular date in May 2014. I kept the Just-Dice wallet tidy by regularly sweeping coins into a single "cold wallet" address, so although the wallet contained tens of thousands of old used addresses, all but a few of them were empty on that date in May.

Interestingly, the old retired hot wallets were slightly better, because I only loaded them up every few weeks to check for deposits to old addresses and so when the snapshot was taken there were several funded addresses in those old wallets.

In total (DOGE addresses got free CLAMs too, and Doge-Dice had wallets too) I think I received less than 200 CLAMs, worth less than $100 at the time.

Having said that, the method of initial distribution is what first drew my attention to the coin, so you're right that it contributed to my choice of coin. Just not that I gained much from the method of distribution.

Check for yourself if you ever deposited BTC to Just-Dice or Doge-Dice. Use the /dig command on Just-Dice to check whether any free CLAM were awarded to your deposit address. It's incredibly likely that you'll find that your address didn't get any CLAM, because of how I kept the JD wallet so tidy.


I can agree with all of that. The price could fall drastically at any time. Or climb drastically.

Here's another screenshot showing how there are even less CLAMs available to buy now than before:

I'd like to state that I think Dooglus is a class-act and I don't believe at all that he has any motive to scam people.  However, I think he's downplaying the 'relatively little gain' part.  I believe this coin was picked for a reason.  If I understand correctly (I might be wrong), the Clams are distributed through old but used bitcoin addresses... which is something that Dooglus had access to thousands of from the old Just-Dice.

I've said it before and I'll say it again.  I think Just-dice is well run, safe, secure, has a fun community, and is easily one of the top 3 most trusted sites that you don't have to worry about being scammed or being ripped off from, but with that being said the currency being gambled with is highly volatile and has a lot of unknown factors about it and all those holding clams should be very careful.

I think this is how the scam he is describing works:

1. dooglus buys a bunch of cheap unknown crypto (doge, clam, etc.)
2. dooglus launches dice site, bringing publicity to the unknown crypto, pumping its price
3. suckers buy the unknown crypto at inflated prices from dooglus
4. price collapses
5. dooglus ends up with suckers' valuable coins, suckers end up with worthless currency

Seems like an awful lot of work for relatively little gain. And if this was my goal I don't think I would have picked a coin that has 96% of its supply unaccounted for. A large part of it could turn up at any point and collapse the price. It would make much more sense to pump and dump a coin that JD could truly corner the market in.


It is a concern that relatively few large players hold so much of the CLAM supply. I was talking to somone on JD last night who was being bullish on the price. I warned him that if a few of the big holders decided they want out, the price could fall, triggering panic sells by others. He seemed confident that there are plenty of people looking to buy cheap that a big sell-off would be a good thing. I guess we'll see what happens. Looking at the poloniex market, he's right: there are currently only 2657 CLAM available to buy at any price, and 152 BTC trying to buy them. And I'm still trying to replace the coins that I recently sold:

How do you work that out? How can someone steal or con you out of money on JD? I am actually interested to here, because it isn't p2p and unlike say MCX, there is no market to pump and or dump.

What's wrong with DogeCoin? It looks alive and kicking to me, better than (almost) all other altcoins. Doge-dice.com was a joy to use and a nice community.

I've been to Just-Dice lately also.  And it is very much what looks to be your classic den of thieves/con artists reminiscent of the earlier coin chat.  We have Dooglus, with his supposedly untarnished reputation, accompanied by a few stoolpigeons.  Arrogant, BayAreaCoins, Klye, and some of the other mods and players, are not much more than pump-a-dumpers and con artists grouping together.  Anyone buying into the whole Clam pump-a-dump is probably not going to like how this could end up.  Remember the last alt-coin Dooglus supported was Doge-coin.

The whole "I paid him for silence, not the bug" thing still cracks me up. Why would you pay for silence when someone reported a bug?
Are his developers too incompetent to fix it? This kind of arrogance is what ruins a site for me.
This just reminds me of how Dean Nolan is with his site. (except on a much much higher unprofessional level)
While PRC is successful, he doesn't seem to take very kindly to advice, suggestions or bug reports.

I could also have been a lot less nice.

When I found the bug I could have used it to slowly drain his bankroll, but instead I reported it to him in exchange for a bounty that never materialised.

If he had ever asked me to update my review I would have done so. Now he probably wouldn't want me to, since it would only get worse if I edited it now.

He did post some proof, but that was actually worse for his own site. It was regarding some bounty being paid, which was taken back, after dooglus posted an honest review of the site.