The UEFA Nations League 2020/2021 Discussion Thread - page 97.

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Quote from: CryptocurencyKing on November 10, 2020, 08:01:23 PM

International break or nations league always gives me a different feeling about football. It doesn't seem to be interesting even with the same players on the pitch. The clubs seemed more entertaining probably due to the quality of players all scout for and bought over to play together as a team but then, the international breaks really puts me on a pause or wait and watch out for the league games to resume before you can enjoy soccer again. I really wish it didn't have to be so but, that's how it feels.

You're not alone in this feeling, chief. Many nations don't have the competitive ability like others it is almost incomparable like club football where different footballers are bought to make a team, they train together daily, weekly and monthly they understand eachother more than in the international competition that comes up once in a while.

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I hate national breaks but I can't stay too far from football bets. That's a too side stick. Grin

There are good clashes today, I'd like to watch Türkiye - Croatia and Germany - Czechia games. Greece - South Cyprus game is early but it looks very boring, I wouldn't waste my time on that.

We should wait for match times and see squads before placing our bets. International match squads are bigger than club squads and every player is fit and ready to play, that's why there's big a difference.

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International break or nations league always gives me a different feeling about football. It doesn't seem to be interesting even with the same players on the pitch. The clubs seemed more entertaining probably due to the quality of players all scout for and bought over to play together as a team but then, the international breaks really puts me on a pause or wait and watch out for the league games to resume before you can enjoy soccer again. I really wish it didn't have to be so but, that's how it feels.

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Quote from: Bttzed03 on November 10, 2020, 01:27:36 PM

Quote from: TedMosby on November 10, 2020, 12:02:55 PM

I am bumping this thread because betnomi host an event to win 1 btc by guessing the outcomes of 15 matches of this competition perfectly Grin

so I need more insight and prediction here.

Thanks for the heads up. People are quick to post their prediction Grin

Odds looks good for both Portugal vs. France at the moment (both at over 2 - Por being the slight favorite). C. Ronaldo is set to return for this match. Another good match on paper but could end up another disappointment. Maybe a 1-0 or 1-1 scoreline.

Turkey vs. Russia is another match I'm looking to bet on.

I will try to catch the goal scorer on Portugal - France, CR & Mbappe, hoping they will be playing this match, still waiting for the odds on my favorite bookie site

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Quote from: TedMosby on November 10, 2020, 12:02:55 PM

I am bumping this thread because betnomi host an event to win 1 btc by guessing the outcomes of 15 matches of this competition perfectly Grin

so I need more insight and prediction here.

Thanks for the heads up. People are quick to post their prediction Grin

Odds looks good for both Portugal vs. France at the moment (both at over 2 - Por being the slight favorite). C. Ronaldo is set to return for this match. Another good match on paper but could end up another disappointment. Maybe a 1-0 or 1-1 scoreline.

Turkey vs. Russia is another match I'm looking to bet on.

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I am bumping this thread because betnomi host an event to win 1 btc by guessing the outcomes of 15 matches of this competition perfectly Grin

so I need more insight and prediction here.

Quote from: coinlocket$ on November 07, 2020, 05:51:38 PM

PORTUGAL - FRANCE big match Boys
Remember -8.

8 are the goal missing to Ronaldo to become the all-time scorer for a player with his Nation.

I am also waiting for this match. Belgium vs England also will be interesting to watch.
this is a good competition if all teams send their best squad, not just trying to mix and match their players before the bigger competition.

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PORTUGAL - FRANCE big match Boys
Remember -8.

8 are the goal missing to Ronaldo to become the all-time scorer for a player with his Nation.

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Quote from: Expecto on November 06, 2020, 07:05:10 PM

There is a big match between Portugal and France next week. It will be one of the most important matches of the week. They both have 10 points. If we see any of these teams win this match, they will guarantee qualifying out of the group. I'm so excited to watch this match.

if there was no covid outbreak, I would give France a clear advantage in this game, now, I'm waiting for the lineups to see who will be allowed to play, due the active covid testing going on

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There is a big match between Portugal and France next week. It will be one of the most important matches of the week. They both have 10 points. If we see any of these teams win this match, they will guarantee qualifying out of the group. I'm so excited to watch this match.

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Quote from: efialtis on October 16, 2020, 06:29:39 AM

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Quote from: cryptofrka on October 17, 2020, 06:03:08 AM

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Well I expected that the same thing is happening all over the world and I wasn't wrong lol Wink

Quote from: Saint-loup on October 16, 2020, 03:56:12 PM

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I am able to speak several languages including French so Cheesy

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Quote from: Saint-loup on October 16, 2020, 03:56:12 PM

LOL you seem to know very well french people and french medias snipie. Because that's exactly how they're doing.
But we have the most african team of Europe AFAIK so if we don't win, there is no interest to select this kind of team. Tongue

Actually, that's world media in general I'd say.
In Croatia it's the same. For example, when Čilić wins he's often 'the best Croatian tennis player'. When he loses, he's 'Marin Čilić, a player from Međugorje'.

Journalism is crap nowadays. I basically don't read any news portals anymore. I have a subscription to The Athletic (they are awesome, I highly recommend it) for sport content and that's it.

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Quote from: snipie on October 16, 2020, 05:53:51 AM

Quote from: Trofo on October 16, 2020, 05:34:02 AM

Quote from: Saint-loup on October 15, 2020, 06:21:04 PM

Croatia is a rather small country and your players are mostly croatians while France is one of the biggest country of Europe and selects players with foreign roots.

We select players with foreign roots as well. Good exmples are Rakitic who has been raised in Switzerland or Eduardo who is Brazilian and got Croatian nationality since he lived here long time. Then we always have a couple of Bosnian guys in the team but that almost counts as our own Grin

Let me extend this a little bit with the French media hypocrisy since I remember them every time this talk took place. The Francafrican national team is playing and a player with an african origin scores, media: yeee the french "name of the guy here" scored. Now the poor guy missed an easy goal, oh the "original African country here" guy missed what a shame!.
If they won a title, the French national team won it. If they were eliminated, a picture of African origin players in the first page and let's start the critics...
Dunno but I am sure this thing happens all over the world with maybe questions about how 1 or 2 players are loyal to their team/country but what happens in some media in France is beyond logic Lips sealed

LOL you seem to know very well french people and french medias snipie. Because that's exactly how they're doing.
But we have the most african team of Europe AFAIK so if we don't win, there is no interest to select this kind of team. Tongue

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Quote from: big_daddy on October 14, 2020, 05:30:05 PM

Dalic is just stupid Angry

A.K. is not a magician, he is a bomber and he needs more than 10 minutes on the field
Fckn stupid.... we could end with a better result having A.K. from the 60’ minute in for example

We can only speculate whether something would change with him or not but we will never know Grin

What is life, 2 years ago Dalic was the best coach in the world and now he has gone from heaven to hell and has already become the worst coach in the world Cheesy

I think we really need to be realistic and admit to ourselves that Croatia's great success in Russia in 2018 is the result of various circumstances, including a lot of luck.
The matches of the Croatian national team against France, Portugal and Sweden this year actually showed realistically where we are now in world football and where our real reach is.
For a country as small as Croatia, it is really not realistic to constantly play in the finals of big competitions and constantly beat big countries in football.

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Quote from: cryptofrka on October 15, 2020, 07:29:03 AM

I think we actually played well, France is individually a much better team than we are.

I think that Croatia is playing almost to the maximum of its capabilities, given that compared to the 2018 World Cup, there are no players like Subasic, Mandjukic, Corluka, Rakitic (stop playing for the national team), or Vrsaljko who is injured and some others who are also injured. If France was too strong in 2018, then it is even stronger for this rejuvenated team, there are a lot of young players who need experience to reach their maximum.

After all, even Dalic has repeatedly stated that this competition is not a priority, but that through it, team is preparing for next year's European Championships and qualifying for the World Cup.

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Quote from: snipie on October 16, 2020, 05:53:51 AM

Quote from: Trofo on October 16, 2020, 05:34:02 AM

Quote from: Saint-loup on October 15, 2020, 06:21:04 PM

Croatia is a rather small country and your players are mostly croatians while France is one of the biggest country of Europe and selects players with foreign roots.

We select players with foreign roots as well. Good exmples are Rakitic who has been raised in Switzerland or Eduardo who is Brazilian and got Croatian nationality since he lived here long time. Then we always have a couple of Bosnian guys in the team but that almost counts as our own Grin

Let me extend this a little bit with the French media hypocrisy since I remember them every time this talk took place. The Francafrican national team is playing and a player with an african origin scores, media: yeee the french "name of the guy here" scored. Now the poor guy missed an easy goal, oh the "original African country here" guy missed what a shame!.
If they won a title, the French national team won it. If they were eliminated, a picture of African origin players in the first page and let's start the critics...
Dunno but I am sure this thing happens all over the world with maybe questions about how 1 or 2 players are loyal to their team/country but what happens in some media in France is beyond logic Lips sealed

That's indeed what's happening almost everywhere and no matter what sports we are talking about. Prime example from Greece - unbelievable but true: Giannis Antetokounmpo (of Nigerian origin), who spent his whole life in Greece, extremely poor, selling bags and sun-glasses on the streets of Athens, wasn't given a Greek Passport/ID before he became famous - when that happened, he "became Greek" in record time, nation's idol, Greek ambassador, bla bla bla - Hypocrisy at it's best - not to speak about Greeks who (not all of them but many) never considered people like him Greek but when he became a superstar, he was suddenly the best of all Greeks! Shocked

Oh and that's always changing of course, when Hellas National Team sucked at last tournament, you can imagine how people thought of Ante!

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Quote from: Trofo on October 16, 2020, 05:34:02 AM

Quote from: Saint-loup on October 15, 2020, 06:21:04 PM

Croatia is a rather small country and your players are mostly croatians while France is one of the biggest country of Europe and selects players with foreign roots.

We select players with foreign roots as well. Good exmples are Rakitic who has been raised in Switzerland or Eduardo who is Brazilian and got Croatian nationality since he lived here long time. Then we always have a couple of Bosnian guys in the team but that almost counts as our own Grin

Let me extend this a little bit with the French media hypocrisy since I remember them every time this talk took place. The Francafrican national team is playing and a player with an african origin scores, media: yeee the french "name of the guy here" scored. Now the poor guy missed an easy goal, oh the "original African country here" guy missed what a shame!.
If they won a title, the French national team won it. If they were eliminated, a picture of African origin players in the first page and let's start the critics...
Dunno but I am sure this thing happens all over the world with maybe questions about how 1 or 2 players are loyal to their team/country but what happens in some media in France is beyond logic Lips sealed

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Quote from: Saint-loup on October 15, 2020, 06:21:04 PM

Croatia is a rather small country and your players are mostly croatians while France is one of the biggest country of Europe and selects players with foreign roots.

We select players with foreign roots as well. Good exmples are Rakitic who has been raised in Switzerland or Eduardo who is Brazilian and got Croatian nationality since he lived here long time. Then we always have a couple of Bosnian guys in the team but that almost counts as our own Grin

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Quote from: cryptofrka on October 15, 2020, 07:57:20 AM

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Quote from: cryptofrka on October 15, 2020, 07:29:03 AM

~ He is not fit to play. ~

Just wait the next game of Hoff and see how his shape is more than well
It’s always the same shit story in our federation, Mamic doesn’t have royalties on his contract

He doesn't have royalties on Vlašić's contract too and yet he is playing. Perišić and Pašalić as well.
Kramarić was playing as long as he was fit, if he plays 90 min for Hoffenheim, that will again be 5 days from yesterday.

Yes, some things are rotten in our FA. But we cannot (or should not) put a finger on Mamić every time something goes wrong. We lost to France. They are better. For me, that's more than enough.
This 'blame Mamić' talk if we lose to best world 11 is getting a bit old. We and our conspiracy theories, always so full of them. Nobody is better than us, it's either Mamić or the referees.

You have a very honest mindset, that's nice to see that. The match was nice to watch too with your amazing supporters, however there were very few chances for the croatian team to win actually, Croatia is a rather small country and your players are mostly croatians while France is one of the biggest country of Europe and selects players with foreign roots.

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Teams should be bigger than just one player, if you lose just because one player didn't played 90 minutes, that means you should be losing anyway, one player is not solution to anyteam's problems.

You should be decent without those players as well, not saying you should be winning every game, that is not possible even with Ronaldo on your team (look at Portugal's record during Ronaldo period) but you shouldn't be suddenly drop from amazing to horrible, you have so many of your countryment to pick from and it should be just a slight fall. Turkey didn't had Caglar Soyuncu, a player who worths well over 40 million Euros, and yet they managed to come from 2-0 down to 2-2 tie the game, they would have been happier with him on the pitch, but if not they still worked hard.

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Quote from: big_daddy on October 15, 2020, 07:34:30 AM

Quote from: cryptofrka on October 15, 2020, 07:29:03 AM

~ He is not fit to play. ~

Just wait the next game of Hoff and see how his shape is more than well
It’s always the same shit story in our federation, Mamic doesn’t have royalties on his contract

He doesn't have royalties on Vlašić's contract too and yet he is playing. Perišić and Pašalić as well.
Kramarić was playing as long as he was fit, if he plays 90 min for Hoffenheim, that will again be 5 days from yesterday.

Yes, some things are rotten in our FA. But we cannot (or should not) put a finger on Mamić every time something goes wrong. We lost to France. They are better. For me, that's more than enough.
This 'blame Mamić' talk if we lose to best world 11 is getting a bit old. We and our conspiracy theories, always so full of them. Nobody is better than us, it's either Mamić or the referees.

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