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I haven't seen any Dagestan in the Heavyweight and maybe their height might have a reason for that but if Magomed Ankalaev goes up maybe he will have a hard time with that division right now he is struggling in winning in the Light Heavyweight but I guess it was the coincidence that he is not winning right now but maybe he could win against Johnny Walker but for sure but maybe those Dagestan wrestling is really on the advantage for sure

Well I would love a good discussion on the Francis Ngannou VS Tyson Fury fight for sure Ngannou really fought well and gave a good fight against Tyson Fury, and Fury was saying that he surely won and that he recovered from the previous rounds, is an understatement as Tyson Fury have gas out and was slowed down because of that for sure Francis Ngannou also was gas out but he is used in this kind of situation, for sure after this fight many fans wants to see Francis Ngannou fight another Heavyweight boxer,


For sure PFL did a great job in getting what Francis Ngannou wanted because if Ngannou is fighting in a boxing fight that would be a big sale for the PFL and maybe after this fight Dana White then thought he made a mistake in not getting what Ngannou want and for sure he will not going to say it for sure,

And for sure PFL not only going to get a great profit with the boxing of Francis Ngannou but with his MMA fight as well, for sure Francis Ngannou in my opinion is an MMA fighter who is successful in transitioning him in the boxing aswell,

Yes that what is happening now where Dana White is treating Jones as he should treat champion and one of the UFC legends in the heavyweight.
We know who Jones is, he had once problem with doping but he got away from that problem and was even able to get belt after the problems he experienced.
Now we just need to wait for Jones to fully recover and we can see a real fight in the heavyweight class.

I agree with you and indeed what Jones has gone through in the UFC is very valuable, in fact I don't see any other fighter who is the same as Jones.
And all of Jones fights have generated huge amounts of hype and money, but so far many fans are disappointed or can't just accept that Jones is injured and can't continue his fight schedule.
Honestly, I can't imagine what would happen if the two of them met.

You could argue that the Fury fight brought UFC's stock anyway. In the eyes of the public opinion, Ngannou is still associated with the UFC despite not having a contract.
And I'm having a hard time imagining how such allowance (to let him compete in boxing) would even work. Would UFC want a share of the profits? I know they've done it with McGregor, but no idea how was that sorted from the contractual side. McGregor was on clear decline after the Mayweather fight, so no wonder UFC didn't love the idea.
Anyhow, things turned out surprisingly nicely for Francis. He probably will earn multiple times more than what he'd get by staying in the UFC for the rest of his career. Well done to his manager.

Not every MMA fighter is a good boxer and not all of them would be given the opportunity to compete at the highest level for big money.  So no...  Maybe a few.

As for Ngannou, I think Dana White could be starting to regret his decision on not allowing Ngannou fight in boxing.  In one interview he said that Hunter Campbell regretted the decision because Hunter really wanted to keep Ngannou in the UFC.  Dana White said he had no regrets.  But as a businessman he prolly did.  Ngannou's match vs Fury would've brought the UFC's stock up imho.

Unlike Francis Ngannou, I think others are free to switch whenever they are given good offers to crossover and this is not a problem for Dana because, at the same time, his fighters will gain more popularity and bring that to MMA which will gonna be a good thing for them both. They cannot be blamed because the huge price gained in boxing while the fight is in the Middle East can really change their life and make them more famous than they were just on MMA platforms.

Cant say that boxing is loosing popularity and MMA is gaining it. Each sports has its own fanbase. But the amount boxers receive after the fight was always a gem that attract other fighters to switch to it. People announced their desire to switch for long time, but I think Ngannou made it most laud. Now, like bittraffic mentioned, new UFC star starts to pay more attention to boxing. That isnt healthy for UFC. Dont know how they gonna react. Still continue to bind their fighters with contracts, or let them have a boxing fight if that wont harm their UFC career.

because jones is special. 3 years of inactivity and come back as champion, they've got to see him as special kind of a champion. someone else got injured or inactive, its a whackamole.

dana didn't wonder why many of his athletes wants to go boxing with paul because of the high pay. learning then that conor and jon was paid millions in every fight while ngannou's each fight is less than 500K. but then cormier and sonnen still kept saying he fumbled.

if jones vs ngannou met, francis will probably be knocked out. thats more than 90%. but dana is not ready to see that. he likes ngannou so much that he wants nganou to realize he is making a big mistake leaving ufc.

Of course because there is a lot of history behind Jon Jones' story. He is an undefeated fighter at the moment. One loss was due to a rule violation, not a loss due to KO or UD. Most of his fight records are in belt fights, which means Jones is a fighter who always fights at a high level. Even though he has a lot of controversy about his personality, in the UFC Jones is a real monster. Seriously, I'm still curious what would happen if Jon Jones met Ngannou? That would be one hell of a fight!

For sure that is why there is an Interim Heavyweight belt and if Jon Jones is OK then he will be back for the Heavyweight Championship belt, but why did the UFC not do this with the Light Heavyweight when Jiri Prochazka got injured they stripped him off his belt, then why does Jon Jones get this kind of treatment but for sure Jon Jones is a valuable asset to the UFC,


Great Job Derrick Lewis, it was like it was his first time driving a Lamborghini for sure, and why he is driving like that sure he doesn't have anything if he wants to train for the fight, but for sure the criminal offense in what Derrick Lewis has done here is bailable so he can surely still fight for the UFC Fight Night event, for sure that his offense is bailable so we would likely see him inside the octagon for sure,


Well, you have a point a flying knee can be devastating against Jailton Almeda if timed correctly that is, that is why this fight is going to be great, but for sure just like I am saying when it comes to a technical fight Derrick Lewis is not going to win this if he is approaching this fight with his kind of style of fighting, but if Jailton Almeda approached here will be technical then he can clear this easily,

That's why Dagestanis are swarming the MMA now that they know they can dominate fights and they are not just wrestlers, they can box too.  Khabib is probably just one regular kind of man in their community, he was just given more opportunity and got what he dreamt of in the land of opportunity.

But no. Boxing still is the best sport and this is the sport that one can really use to defend himself from multiple attackers.
Suga Omalley wants to fight Haney in boxing and I think Dana refuses. He will prevent his fighters from following Francis.

Dagestani is one of the poorest region of the world, it's hugely subsidized by Moscow, Russia. Khabib is probably their icon right now because of his achievements, then there is Islam. Dagestani people sensed that it's possible to make money and become a star in fights. They grow in mountains, breath fresh air, work physically, are in poverty, they are perfect candidates to become a healthy, strong fighter and lack of money motivates them even more like footballers all around the world.

Isn't boxing losing popularity? MMA is new, I think it will become more popular than boxing unless we have a new Mike Tyson who will fight like a hungry and aggressive lion. Probably, right now, we can say that many MMA fighters will ask Dana for a salary raise or more of them will move in boxing because there is a tons of money made there, McGregor showed that, Ngannou showed that.

Dagestan fights wants to be things to be like you say, but reality is different If the things were as you say, we would see only them in pound-for-pound rating Still, and I am really glad of that, skill determines who is the best, not who and where you are from. As an example - look at light heavy and heavyweight division. Barely we see a guy from Dagestan there. And it does not mean that there are not LHW or HW Dagestan fighters. Other promotions are full of them.

Lets guys have a small discussion about recent Francis Ngannou vs Tyson Fury fight. But not about the fight itself, but on the possible changes in UFC or MMA promotion it might cause. Francis has showed, that MMA guys can compete on rather high level against elite boxers. So should we expect fighter migration to professional boxing? Give me your thoughts.

^ Lmaooo.  Looks like the arrest is not gonna affect nothing in his match vs Almeida in Brazil.    And as said, as long as it's just for speeding and he wasn't DUI then he's good.  He'll prolly still need to face a judge tho.  He could do some community service as punishment.  Lolol.  

Anyway, here's jeremypwr's Multi Master...

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-fight-night-231-multi-master-challenge-saturday-5472203

Take note that only guys who joined his pools are allowed to play.  Unlucky for me, I didn't join any pools this year.    But yeah...  Still posting it here as some sort of tradition for the thread.  Good luck!

And if a Dagestan Fighter is fighting a non-Dagestan fighter you can be sure that the odds will be in favor of the Dagestan always, just like what is happening in this event most Dagestan are favorable to win and most of them won their fights in the UFC 294 so it is really not that surprising as Dagestan is a most dominant fighter not only with the UFC but with other fighting company out there so it is a good rule of thumb that most bettors will be on the Dagestan, most of the time,

But for sure they are not using guards because they want to really feel the gist of it, or the experience of guards is like a hindrance to them at least that is what I think of this,


Most are for Almeda because of his wrestling and that is for sure what is happening here, even though Jailton Almeda has his wrestling for sure I also think Derrick Lewis can also have a chance to put out Almeda in just one shot, and if Derrick Lewis can suddenly become more technical as a striker he can surely use that with his power strike and can surely take down Almeda for sure but if Derrick Lewis would stay as a brute then for sure Jailton Almeda can make a chance for his wrestling to get through,

OK, I've done some homework and watched some highlights of Almeida's fights. He looks really fast and dynamic for a heavyweight. It's going to be a tough one for Lewis. Derrick's biggest chance is to look for a brawl early on, but if he does that, he would open himself to a takedown, and the ground is not a place to be when fighting Almeida.
Maybe going all-in with a flying knee for the 2nd time in a row is not a bad idea  


Edit: I just noticed the news about Lewis getting arrested. Apparently, he got out already. He even made a public statement lol:

https://www.mmafighting.com/2023/11/1/23942157/derrick-lewis-offers-hilarious-response-when-addressing-recent-arrest-on-reckless-driving-charges

Lewis wasn't drunk driving and he didn't hit anybody.  He was just speeding.  He came out of the police station and prolly paid whatever he needed to pay to get out of there asap.  He's still fighting this weekend as far as I know...

It's not like he did something like Jones and ran over somebody and drinking while driving.  And maybe the MMA journos are trying to make it bigger than it seems.  But we'll hear his side of the story this weekend. 

Lol, did not expect Derrick to screw so hard. But that not gonna affect the fight much as he is released on his own recognizance already. He was arrested just for speeding. He was doing 180mph in the zone where it is allowed 50 only

Btw it was announced that Arman Tsarukyan gonna fight Beneil Dariush next. That is a great opportunity for Arman to advance in rating and Dariush with more than 20 fights in UFC is a great test for Arman.

who'll fight Almeida now that Derrick was arrested?  he was arrested for wreckless driving
https://abc13.com/amp/ufc-fighter-arrested-derrick-lewis-wreckless-driving-speeding/13994966/

the main event fighters are always messing up the fights. Tuivasa could be a good alternative for Derrick.  its just a question of whether he will fight for few days notice. 

for what purpose is it if these fight cancellations are deliberately done?

Dana White knows who is fighter with high popularity and can make lot of money that why he doesn't take away the belt that Jones has because Dana also doesn't want to lose Jones who is an asset for the UFC.
When Tom Aspinal VS Sergei Pavlovich fights for the interim heavyweight title and one of them comes out as champion until later when Jones recovers they can meet for the real title then it will be hot fight and can make the octagon full of spectators.
The hype experienced by Jones also had a big influence on the UFC, so it is natural that he is still the heavyweight king.

In the Tom Aspinal VS Sergei Pavlovich fight, I think Aspinal could be the favorite but Pavlovich is also not weak fighter so there will be quite tough fight there.

If you have watched Expandables 4 there is a scene where Randy Couture's Character Toll Road is explaining his ear condition sure he is explaining where he got that condition to Levy Tran's Character Lash, for sure most MMA fighters have that kind of ear actually I was really curious with most MMA fighters ears that is why I have searched it and that is why it is now normal for me in seeing fighters that have some ear condition like that,


I really think that many now prefer a much more technical fighter than fighters that don't have technicality with their technique and Jailton Almeda has already shown that and with his additional Wrestling and grappling in his arsenal, for me, he is the most suitable to win here in my opinion, and Derrick Lewis is a short notice fighter here but yeah you are right that Derrick Lewis can finish this in an instant, but Almeda is fast so with those front kicks, I think he needs to change that Rhythm with his takedowns,