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September 22, 2023, 02:41:45 PM
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That's a decent main event imho.  And Fiziev is one of my favorite guys in the roster since he beat Marc Diakesse as the underdog a couple of years ago but man...  Going against Gamrot for 5 rounds could be a tall order.  Fiziev wil prolly look good at the first couple of rounds of the match.  But as the match progresses into the championship rounds, he has a tendency of slowing down.  That's where Gamrot could take over and wear on him.  Gamrot is very durable and a very good wrestler.  If more action goes to Fiziev, Gamrot's like could improve to 2.50. which is good imo.

Going into the latest event in the UFC, I really like Mateusz Gamrot for he is much better rounded than Rafael Fiziev in my opinion sure Rafael Fiziev is much younger than Mateusz Gamrot, but Gamrot is more technical and has great wrestling but if Fiziev has proven that he got great takedown defense he will likely get a chance for this fight but for sure Mateusz Gamrot has a lot of arsenal in getting this fight done,


Yay! Finally a really exciting fight, almost guaranteed not to be boring. I'm heavily biased on this one as Gamrot is my compatriot and I like his character, but I think, objectively, he has what it takes to defeat Fiziev. Gamrot likes fighting in Las Vegas, he fought and won 5 times there, his wrestling is obviously superior to Fiziev's and he's experienced enough to withstand the pressure.
It's an important fight for both of them, winning this one will open the door to fight guys from the top 5, meaning big money fights.

Just like you, I am very into Mateusz Gamrot for sure he will be very dominant in this fight because of his many arsenals that could take out Fiziev I think he can eventually get this win, I am pretty much hyped for Gamrot on this one, as Gamrot had a hard time against Justin Gaethje because Gaethje was technical in all approached that he makes against Rafael Fiziev,


Gamrot will not see himself on top of Fiziev. The TD defense of Fiziev is just superb so it will be a standing fight which Gamrot will not be able to make.

If he has to win, he has to keep chasing takedowns and grappling to wear out Fiziev til the 3rd round which he probably can have success after that. He will not last if he forces himself into a standing fight. But Fiziev did have fights that lasted til UD, he can last up to 5th rounds. I'd still go for Fiziev by KO.

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September 22, 2023, 08:07:29 AM
Official weigh ins will be live in around 3 hours or so guys.  I'm kinda extra excited for the main event of this Fight Night at the Apex.  Grin  The line for Fiziev hasn't really moved from 1.64, the line the last time I took a peek.  It's at 1.62 rn.  Just a small move towards Fiz.  I was expecting the sharps to start moving in on Gamrot and start moving the line towards him but no...  Judging from the lack of line movement, everybody agrees with the bookies..?  :/

UFC Fight Night 228:  Fiziev vs Gamrot Official Weigh In
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkKRgrfsJuE
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September 22, 2023, 05:29:18 AM
There is no doubt that Belal Muhammad deserved the title shot as he have unfinished business with Leon Edwards with a no contest bout and on a 9 fight winning streak. US has 3 champions now in Jon Jones, Sean O'Malley and Sean Strickland and majority thinks that Colby Covington will be the fourth US champion. If Colby Covington fails this time then this is his last opportunity to get to the title.

Belal Muhammad deserves a title fight, but few people really wants to see him being a champ. One of the boring fighters in division and whole UFC probably. Almost every single fight ends with UD. He is on a second play in top of wins by decision in general, and on top place in wins by decision among welterweights. If he gets the belt, then the events with him (for sure that is going to be main or co-main event fight) not going to make lots of PPV sales.

^ He will have to improve one aspect of his fight. I don't know if we can actually call it an aspect of his fighting or not. But anyway, he will have to improve his talking. He will have to make people be interested in watching his fight. Otherwise, it is going to be hard for the organisation to actually take him seriously. There are a lot of fighters who are really good. But they cannot talk very well. If you cannot sell it, you are going to get less fight. maybe he needs to do some good amount of trash talking. Obviously, he is not going to change the fighting style. So the fighting is definitely still going to be boring. But he will have to look for other ways to make people interested in his fight.
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September 22, 2023, 04:35:07 AM
There is no doubt that Belal Muhammad deserved the title shot as he have unfinished business with Leon Edwards with a no contest bout and on a 9 fight winning streak. US has 3 champions now in Jon Jones, Sean O'Malley and Sean Strickland and majority thinks that Colby Covington will be the fourth US champion. If Colby Covington fails this time then this is his last opportunity to get to the title.

Belal Muhammad deserves a title fight, but few people really wants to see him being a champ. One of the boring fighters in division and whole UFC probably. Almost every single fight ends with UD. He is on a second play in top of wins by decision in general, and on top place in wins by decision among welterweights. If he gets the belt, then the events with him (for sure that is going to be main or co-main event fight) not going to make lots of PPV sales.
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September 22, 2023, 04:33:02 AM
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I also think that Belal Muhammad is more worthy of a title challenge against Edwards this time around than Colby. Belal has proven himself to be a title contender and I hope Belal can be given a chance. Colby has had the title shot many times while Belal has never had one. Even though the champion at that time was different from the current champion. Seeing new faces in the fight for the title is an interesting thing for me.
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September 21, 2023, 03:44:19 PM
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That's a decent main event imho.  And Fiziev is one of my favorite guys in the roster since he beat Marc Diakesse as the underdog a couple of years ago but man...  Going against Gamrot for 5 rounds could be a tall order.  Fiziev wil prolly look good at the first couple of rounds of the match.  But as the match progresses into the championship rounds, he has a tendency of slowing down.  That's where Gamrot could take over and wear on him.  Gamrot is very durable and a very good wrestler.  If more action goes to Fiziev, Gamrot's like could improve to 2.50. which is good imo.

Going into the latest event in the UFC, I really like Mateusz Gamrot for he is much better rounded than Rafael Fiziev in my opinion sure Rafael Fiziev is much younger than Mateusz Gamrot, but Gamrot is more technical and has great wrestling but if Fiziev has proven that he got great takedown defense he will likely get a chance for this fight but for sure Mateusz Gamrot has a lot of arsenal in getting this fight done,


Yay! Finally a really exciting fight, almost guaranteed not to be boring. I'm heavily biased on this one as Gamrot is my compatriot and I like his character, but I think, objectively, he has what it takes to defeat Fiziev. Gamrot likes fighting in Las Vegas, he fought and won 5 times there, his wrestling is obviously superior to Fiziev's and he's experienced enough to withstand the pressure.
It's an important fight for both of them, winning this one will open the door to fight guys from the top 5, meaning big money fights.

Just like you, I am very into Mateusz Gamrot for sure he will be very dominant in this fight because of his many arsenals that could take out Fiziev I think he can eventually get this win, I am pretty much hyped for Gamrot on this one, as Gamrot had a hard time against Justin Gaethje because Gaethje was technical in all approached that he makes against Rafael Fiziev,
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September 21, 2023, 02:47:28 PM
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Colby never ran out of title shots but he fails every time. Now with Edwards, he might fail again. He wasn't making progress though he won against Masvidal in his last fight, it wasn't a fight that you will remember being extraordinary. This might be Colby's last title fight and if he still can't get the belt, he'll go down the rank.  Belal should have been in his shoes to fight Edwards.
There is no doubt that Belal Muhammad deserved the title shot as he have unfinished business with Leon Edwards with a no contest bout and on a 9 fight winning streak. US has 3 champions now in Jon Jones, Sean O'Malley and Sean Strickland and majority thinks that Colby Covington will be the fourth US champion. If Colby Covington fails this time then this is his last opportunity to get to the title.
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September 21, 2023, 12:25:21 PM
Nice!  I wonder how the books are gonna line Prochazka vs Pereira...  From what we've seen of Pereira at 205 vs Jan Błachowicz, it was dull, low volume and boring.  Prochazka is a dynamic striker, fast and more explosive.

Good question. I've no idea who would be favourite here. Pereira's last fight was dull indeed, but it was he's first fight at 205 and he was cautious not to get taken down. Against Prochazka it will be more of a striker Vs striker match, so should be more interesting (in theory at least). I'd probably go with Prochazka, but he's coming back from a pretty bad injury so who knows.

And I think we finally see Covington get the belt at 170.  Lol.

Now or never for Colby.

Anyway! I kinda change my mind for my pick in the main event in the Multi Master...  Gamrot could grind on Fiziev right from the start and tire him out.  He's kinda big for 155 and Fiziev kinda small.  :/

Gamrot looks sharp and is very confident in his interviews. He also finally got his eyes fixed. If he doesn't get KOed in the first 2 rounds, he'll win by decision.

Colby never ran out of title shots but he fails every time. Now with Edwards, he might fail again. He wasn't making progress though he won against Masvidal in his last fight, it wasn't a fight that you will remember being extraordinary. This might be Colby's last title fight and if he still can't get the belt, he'll go down the rank.  Belal should have been in his shoes to fight Edwards.

Between Gamrot and Fiziev, it's Fiziev who can make things happen.
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September 21, 2023, 11:18:50 AM
Nice!  I wonder how the books are gonna line Prochazka vs Pereira...  From what we've seen of Pereira at 205 vs Jan Błachowicz, it was dull, low volume and boring.  Prochazka is a dynamic striker, fast and more explosive.

Good question. I've no idea who would be favourite here. Pereira's last fight was dull indeed, but it was he's first fight at 205 and he was cautious not to get taken down. Against Prochazka it will be more of a striker Vs striker match, so should be more interesting (in theory at least). I'd probably go with Prochazka, but he's coming back from a pretty bad injury so who knows.

And I think we finally see Covington get the belt at 170.  Lol.

Now or never for Colby.

Anyway! I kinda change my mind for my pick in the main event in the Multi Master...  Gamrot could grind on Fiziev right from the start and tire him out.  He's kinda big for 155 and Fiziev kinda small.  :/

Gamrot looks sharp and is very confident in his interviews. He also finally got his eyes fixed. If he doesn't get KOed in the first 2 rounds, he'll win by decision.
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September 21, 2023, 07:59:24 AM
Some breaking news from Dana White:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7STg0LeWko

UFC 295 (11th Nov) Jones Vs Miocic - the co-main event will be Prohazka Vs. Pereira for a vacant title
UFC 296 (16th Dec) - Leon Edwards is confirmed to face Colby Covington. Co-main event: Pantoja Vs Royval.

Sounds good to me.


Nice!  I wonder how the books are gonna line Prochazka vs Pereira...  From what we've seen of Pereira at 205 vs Jan Błachowicz, it was dull, low volume and boring.  Prochazka is a dynamic striker, fast and more explosive.  But he's more hittable than the average.  I'd be happy to see Prochazka at 1.60 - 1.70 and anything under that would be giving value to Pereira imho.

And I think we finally see Covington get the belt at 170.  Lol.  

Anyway! I kinda change my mind for my pick in the main event in the Multi Master...  Gamrot could grind on Fiziev right from the start and tire him out.  He's kinda big for 155 and Fiziev kinda small.  :/
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September 21, 2023, 07:54:25 AM
UFC 295 (11th Nov) Jones Vs Miocic - the co-main event will be Prohazka Vs. Pereira for a vacant title

The looser (and the winner probably) have huge probability to retire after this fight. Miocic is 41 and rarely we see him in octagon. Jones - it is hard to force that star to train and fight today Cheesy Only money is motivating that person today. What was with Bones contract in the end? Was it a single fight and debut in heavyweights or a default 3 fight contract? Jones vs Miocic is going to be fight I dont expect much and dont really desire to watch. Simply because there will not much to watch. First round sub or 5 round beating (most likely not).
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September 21, 2023, 06:39:09 AM

A world-class grappler/wrestler is surely going to be able to beat a good boxer on any given day. Because a boxer will definitely have to close the distance to get his hands on his opponent. And as the distance closes, it gives the wrestler more chances to put the boxer down with a takedown. So definitely if it is a fight between a very good boxer and a wrestler who is one of the world's best, I think it is going to be a win for the wrestler. But if the wrestler is a mediocre one, if he is not someone who has dedicated his whole life to wrestling, it is going to be a problem for him.

For sure if that world-class Boxer has a good takedown defense then he can likely neutralize those upcoming takedowns we can surely never know until the two fighters clash because if the striking has offense and defense then Wrestling has its offense and defense as well as we witness in the fight of Islam Makhachev VS Alexander Volkanovski, we can surely see how Volkanovski got great defense on the ground and likely exposed Makhachev as for sure there is a certain level to it and we will never know until then fight,

Some breaking news from Dana White:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7STg0LeWko

UFC 295 (11th Nov) Jones Vs Miocic - the co-main event will be Prohazka Vs. Pereira for a vacant title
UFC 296 (16th Dec) - Leon Edwards is confirmed to face Colby Covington. Co-main event: Pantoja Vs Royval.

Sounds good to me.


Let's not forget the UFC 294 as Charles Oliveira is ready to take on Islam Makhachev for sure Oliveira is taking note of the fight between Makhachev and Volvonovski for sure and exposing Makhachev's ground game, well I would love to see that 1st before anything else,

But for sure UFC 295 and 296 are the juicy event as well so I am really excited every month has something stored for us,


^ This is definitely a good decision taken by Dana White. He is looking to make fights with the interesting fighters that he has available to himself. I think that is going to make the popularity of the UFC go up a notch. A lot of people are waiting to see John Jones fight again. The wish will be granted in the next UFC event. But I do have my doubts about how he is going to do in that fight. The thing is Stipe Miocic is a little older compared to Jones. Five years older if I am not wrong. So I think the conditioning of John Jones is going to be better.

Between Leon Edwards and Colby Covington, I am definitely going to support Leon Edwards. But I think that fight is going to be very close. Both of them are good fighters.

For me Stipe Miocic is not a bad fighter however I am really doubting him in this fight as he is much older sure 41 years old but for sure this is going to be like the Jiri Prochazka VS Glover Texeira fight where it is an amazing fight to watch so this might turn into like that but I am still doubting it but hoping it will,

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September 21, 2023, 05:48:00 AM
Some breaking news from Dana White:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7STg0LeWko

UFC 295 (11th Nov) Jones Vs Miocic - the co-main event will be Prohazka Vs. Pereira for a vacant title
UFC 296 (16th Dec) - Leon Edwards is confirmed to face Colby Covington. Co-main event: Pantoja Vs Royval.

Sounds good to me.


This won't take that long because September will be over soon and we are going to be more than one month away to see Jones back in the cage. seems like an interesting fight after his long rest and after that, we will see Edwards once again after sealing his win against Kamaru Usman in the first half of 2023, well that was truly a long rest but what can you do? these people are true champions and to find someone who truly matches them in the cage is also a hard task to do because there are not that many competitors in their weight division in the UFC.

^ This is definitely a good decision taken by Dana White. He is looking to make fights with the interesting fighters that he has available to himself. I think that is going to make the popularity of the UFC go up a notch. A lot of people are waiting to see John Jones fight again. The wish will be granted in the next UFC event. But I do have my doubts about how he is going to do in that fight. The thing is Stipe Miocic is a little older compared to Jones. Five years older if I am not wrong. So I think the conditioning of John Jones is going to be better.

Between Leon Edwards and Colby Covington, I am definitely going to support Leon Edwards. But I think that fight is going to be very close. Both of them are good fighters.
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September 21, 2023, 03:47:05 AM
Some breaking news from Dana White:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7STg0LeWko

UFC 295 (11th Nov) Jones Vs Miocic - the co-main event will be Prohazka Vs. Pereira for a vacant title
UFC 296 (16th Dec) - Leon Edwards is confirmed to face Colby Covington. Co-main event: Pantoja Vs Royval.

Sounds good to me.


This won't take that long because September will be over soon and we are going to be more than one month away to see Jones back in the cage. seems like an interesting fight after his long rest and after that, we will see Edwards once again after sealing his win against Kamaru Usman in the first half of 2023, well that was truly a long rest but what can you do? these people are true champions and to find someone who truly matches them in the cage is also a hard task to do because there are not that many competitors in their weight division in the UFC.
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September 21, 2023, 03:15:29 AM
Some breaking news from Dana White:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7STg0LeWko

UFC 295 (11th Nov) Jones Vs Miocic - the co-main event will be Prohazka Vs. Pereira for a vacant title
UFC 296 (16th Dec) - Leon Edwards is confirmed to face Colby Covington. Co-main event: Pantoja Vs Royval.

Sounds good to me.
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September 20, 2023, 08:25:25 PM

Gamrot's wrestling is his biggest strength and he utilises it often, but he's more well-rounded than Fiziev. Before moving to UFC, he was a dominant champion in Europe's largest mma organisation (KSW) and he has a lot of experience fighting against all kinds of opponents, whether on the ground or standing. He also has more experience in fighting at the 5 rounds distance.
Sure, fast KO is always a risk, but if Gamrot does his homework, he's more than capable of neutralising Fiziev's striking.
I give Gamrot 60% chance of winning.
 

You give so high % of win chance because often wrestlers/grapplers beat strikers? During UFC career, Fiziev has faced more wrestlers/grapplers than pure strikers and won. Also one one has ever submitted him, which is kinda weird, as Fiziev was a pure striker and spent a lot of time in Thailand with Muay Thai guys. All those ground game guys must have submitted him, how ever I dont remember him being in danger of being submitted. However, I can not misjudge Gamrot. He has a win over strong Tsarukyan, who seems to be a younger copy of Fiziev. Why copy, because Tsarukyan now focuses on training in Thailand also, in same gym as Fiziev (Tiger Muay Thai).

A world-class grappler/wrestler is surely going to be able to beat a good boxer on any given day. Because a boxer will definitely have to close the distance to get his hands on his opponent. And as the distance closes, it gives the wrestler more chances to put the boxer down with a takedown. So definitely if it is a fight between a very good boxer and a wrestler who is one of the world's best, I think it is going to be a win for the wrestler. But if the wrestler is a mediocre one, if he is not someone who has dedicated his whole life to wrestling, it is going to be a problem for him.
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September 20, 2023, 05:19:40 PM
You give so high % of win chance because often wrestlers/grapplers beat strikers? During UFC career, Fiziev has faced more wrestlers/grapplers than pure strikers and won. Also one one has ever submitted him, which is kinda weird, as Fiziev was a pure striker and spent a lot of time in Thailand with Muay Thai guys. All those ground game guys must have submitted him, how ever I dont remember him being in danger of being submitted. However, I can not misjudge Gamrot. He has a win over strong Tsarukyan, who seems to be a younger copy of Fiziev. Why copy, because Tsarukyan now focuses on training in Thailand also, in same gym as Fiziev (Tiger Muay Thai).

Nah, I give Gamrot 60% mostly because of heavy bias, as he's my compatriot, so I really like to see him winning this one. And it's not that high really, it's not very far away from 50/50.
Everyone who trained wrestling at some point in their life can label themselves as wrestler, but that doesn't mean they're all at the same level. And it's way easier for a wrestler to master striking than the other way around. Gamrot can be relentless in his takedown attempts, he doesn't give up after a failed attempt but keeps coming at you from all angles. If Fiziev manages to neutralise that, he will massively shift the odds in his favour, but I don't think he will.
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September 20, 2023, 03:03:15 PM

I also have heard that people are saying Strickland does not deserve to have their belt. But I don't know about that. He was able to win against Israel Adesanya because he definitely deserved to win. Remember, past achievements, do not mean anything if you cannot win the fight that you have in hand. You can have a good past. But if you cannot perform in the present, no one is going to judge you based on your fast, especially after you lose.

I also agree that Shevchenko and Grasso need to fight against each other. I do not follow women’s fights in UFC to match, but this is something I am interested in.

For sure many didn't really like Sean Strickland when he won against Israel Adesanya, even though there were many in the event who liked him when he was throwing trash against Israel Adesanya many surely didn't want him to be champion and seeing him wearing the belt, for sure that people are from the UFC itself, I may have bet for Adesanya but that doesn't mean I am a fan of him, I just like what he does inside the octagon, but for sure a win for Sean Strickland was really a win for him, and nobody can take that from him, even though what he did with the fight with Adesanaya looks simple,

Well that Grasso VS Shevchenko fight for sure many don't like that but for sure Valentina Shevchenko needs to really win this with a dominant win for sure Submission or KO just to say it is a win for him because for sure no one will question this for sure but giving Grasso a hold of you look like Shevchenko is losing,

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September 20, 2023, 08:23:06 AM
^  I got Fiziev to win but I can't say it with a whole lot of confidence because here's the thing, you ask when did Fiziev ever get threatened by a sub finish or a ground and pound in the UFC.  I'd say none because since when did Fiziev fight a wrestler as good as Gamrot?  It could get dicey for Fiziev at the later rounds if it comes to that.  So he prolly should finish Gamrot by knocking him out before the championship rounds.

Anyway here's a couple of vids to watch before the event and a post fight conference vid from DWCS.

UFC Free Fight:  Fiziev vs RDA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNOY6hn3-3I

UFC Free Fight:  Gamrot vs Tsarukyan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_it1hrR79tU

DWCS Season 7, Week 7 Post Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpUHGMZhRHQ
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September 20, 2023, 05:13:36 AM
They are both smart fighters but I think Fiziev is more well rounded. If Gamrot even bring this fight to the ground, he will struggle to keep up while Fiziev dominate the fight to which Gamrot would better prefer foot on the ground.

UFC is giving Gamrot a slow climb to the title shot but if he could beat Fiziev, he might just get the shot he needed.

I could only see this fight turn out to be boxing and Fiziev being the fast KOs Gamrot.

Gamrot's wrestling is his biggest strength and he utilises it often, but he's more well-rounded than Fiziev. Before moving to UFC, he was a dominant champion in Europe's largest mma organisation (KSW) and he has a lot of experience fighting against all kinds of opponents, whether on the ground or standing. He also has more experience in fighting at the 5 rounds distance.
Sure, fast KO is always a risk, but if Gamrot does his homework, he's more than capable of neutralising Fiziev's striking.
I give Gamrot 60% chance of winning.
 

You give so high % of win chance because often wrestlers/grapplers beat strikers? During UFC career, Fiziev has faced more wrestlers/grapplers than pure strikers and won. Also one one has ever submitted him, which is kinda weird, as Fiziev was a pure striker and spent a lot of time in Thailand with Muay Thai guys. All those ground game guys must have submitted him, how ever I dont remember him being in danger of being submitted. However, I can not misjudge Gamrot. He has a win over strong Tsarukyan, who seems to be a younger copy of Fiziev. Why copy, because Tsarukyan now focuses on training in Thailand also, in same gym as Fiziev (Tiger Muay Thai).
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