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Quote from: pawel7777 on November 06, 2023, 11:52:55 AM

Quote from: YuginKadoya on November 06, 2023, 11:39:53 AM

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You have to give Almeida some credit though. He was fighting a dangerous striker with proven KO power, it would be stupid of him to stand up and exchange. He did what he had to do to win the fight and move up in the ranks. He's focus was on winning and not on the entertainment.
Yeah, there's no chance he'll be fighting for the belt in his next fight. He'll most likely have to face someone from the middle of the top 10 first, maybe Blaydes or Volkov, and if he passes the test, he could be fighting for the title then.

I surely am giving Jailton Almeida credit for blowing Derrick Lewis and giving him a hard time for sure he is cautious about the power of Derrick Lewis, that is why he keeps him on the ground but because of this the fight becomes really boring, and my only concern for this fight was when Jailton Almeida take Derrick Lewis on the ground there is not much ground and pound that is happening with this fight so for sure Jailton Almeida will have a hard time fighting the top guys in the heavyweight division for sure,

Quote from: notblox1 on November 06, 2023, 06:09:49 PM

Real shame that Jon Jones vs Stipe Miocic was canceled, but I am really excited to see how Alex Pereira will perform against Jiri Prochazka.
Both fighters have amazing skills but two totally different styles, and I think Prochazka have better chances this weekend.
I am looking at odds on Sportsbet now and I cant believe bookmakers made Pereira such a big favorite in this event.
There is clear value in betting on Prochazka for me, but anything can happen with just one good kick or punch.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/mma/ufc/matches/future

For sure I am not excited about the Jon Jones VS Stipe Miocic but that Jiri Prochazka VS Alex Pereira fight is a great event for sure and still I really don't know if Jiri Prochzka can be more dominant than Alex Pereira for sure for me because of the training with Glover Texeira he can have some advantage with the takedown defense but for me Jiri Prochazka has the advantage when it comes to wrestling,

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on November 06, 2023, 11:39:53 AM

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For me this fight is way more interesting than main event, as these two are potential next heavyweight champions. With Jiri and Pereira it looks like it is already clear who is going to win. UFC decided to throw Jiri, a guy who returns from injury and havent fought for more than a year, into a monster with concrete fists. Imho Pereira gonna land his left hook and finish everything in first or second round. But in a fight between Pavlovich and Aspinal, its power against tactics. That is really interesting to watch. As I have never seen Pavlovich defending against bjj.

It is interesting because both Tom Aspinall and Sergei Pavlovich have done great in the past, this is a fight that will be more technical as Aspinall is so technical approaching his opponent, while Pavlovich is pretty much good at boxing for sure his striking is pretty much amazing, but for me Tom Aspinal is more technical,

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^ Knee injury. Have you seen how much bigger he looks in between camps? There were words swirling around he injured his knee while playing basketball. It's not surprising if he got on a lot of extra weight. :/

Here's the pre fight press conference... It was ok. Kinda like the ones we've had before the McGregor era. Everything was all about the event and mostly respectful. I kinda like it this way sometimes.

UFC 295: Pre Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqLJIN8hogw

Live weigh in show in around 1.5 hours folks.

UFC 295: Live Weigh In Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I5xSGMorz5A

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Pereira must hit that injured shoulder with his left hand, and later throw kimura on that Cheesy

That would be a cheat and easy win Cheesy

Hope you guys remember Jamahal Hill. Because he is a light heavyweight champ Cheesy

Where is this guy? Why dont he and Jiri fight first, to find out who is the real champ right now. Because as I remember, Jiri simply gave his belt away due to sudden injury. So for me he is still a champ and should take back first what belongs to him.

Have you noticed that Islam Makhachev is now on top of p4p and Bones is only second?

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 09, 2023, 06:38:04 AM

What a weird man who made that video Grin

counting and editing all that.

Btw, I find it strange, that bookies dont have an obvious winner in paira Jiri vs Pereira and Pavlovich vs Aspinal. Only Pereira and Aspinal have little advantage. I guess we gonna have some close fights. However, I still dont understand why they evaluate Jiri so high. Except Teixeira I see no big names in his record.

probably because he submitted a very experienced Teixeira and Jiri does have striking that can match Perera. that's why i bring that video up for it may give an outlook on the fight if they do it on feet. a missed shot could be an opponent's chance. 54/120 and the fact that majority didn't made them fall, i think jiri can absorb his hooks.

its not a guaranteed analysis of the fight but Jiri knows Perera is not well equipped when it comes to grappling and wrestling it will matter when one of them find an opening to where they bring the fight to.

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Quote from: owengtam09 on November 09, 2023, 07:59:51 AM

but because Alex Pereira was training with Glover Texeira so for sure his takedown defense could get him far and beyond

That might be a bit of a trap for Pereira. Everyone assumes he's superior to Jiri in a stand up, but if most of his training camp is focused on takedown defence and improving his ground game, he might neglect the striking part and could get out-striked by Jiri. And it's not like Prochazka is lacking in the striking department, if Pereira in the top form is better than him, it's only by a small margin.
But yeah, anything is possible in this fight. Who knows, maybe Alex will be the one looking for a takedown, as he did in the first fight against Adesanya.

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Quote from: bittraffic on November 07, 2023, 10:43:38 AM

Dana should have just stripped Jones of his belt and let the two fight for it to make this event bigger.

On the ground is the last thing Pavlo wants, if he can remain standing he will prefer to fight on his feet.
Pavlo was taken by Overeem and with almost no struggle Overeem hammered him to KO. Aspinall could do this too if he finds Pavlo hard to hit because of the jabs. But because Pavlo is a big guy, he would need rapid punches to flatline a heavyweight like Pavlo.

For sure Dana White doesn't want Jon Jones to go because he is a bigger prospect and because he is the available prospect right now he hasn't prepared to lose him for sure, and you can surely say that Dana White was very proud of Jon Jones because he is always the talk of the town whenever Dana White will have a conference or an interview, and will be very vocal about how Jon Jones can beat Tyson Fury inside the room,

Quote from: pawel7777 on November 07, 2023, 12:29:53 PM

I think that's how it will likely go down. Prochazka will probably try his luck and attempt to out-strike Pereira, if that fails, he'll have no choice but to attempt to take it to the ground. It won't be easy though. Pereira's base sport might be kickboxing, but he spent last few years on mastering takedown defence, so won't be as vulnerable as many may think.
I'm not sure if Pereira's fight against Blachowicz is good indication of anything. I have a lot of sympathy to Jan (he's my compatriot) but he's way past his prime. He's cardio is lacking and it affects his entre game. Prochazka is in his prime years and still has that drive and right mentality, whereas Pereira' main goal is likely to earn as much as possible before retiring in 2-3 years.
It's going to be an interesting one for sure.

We will never know until these two fighters fight inside the octagon, but because Alex Pereira was training with Glover Texeira so for sure his takedown defense could get him far and beyond we all know how Jiri Prochazka wants to take his fight in the stand-up and he will surely go with this until he wasn't able to do it, and for sure Jiri Prochazka most of the time wants to lean his head forward while his hands were down so this could be an opportunity for Alex Pereira to knockout Prochazka as we all know Pereira is a great striker, and one of the divisions best, so I think that could be a bad thing for Alex Pereira,

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Quote from: owengtam09 on November 07, 2023, 10:20:07 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on November 06, 2023, 06:37:27 AM

I have a feeling Jiri Prochazka is gonna get caught and cracked in the chin then get starched. Dunno... It's just from Prochazka's matches he leaves himself wide open.

As for Aspinall, I have him to win but if he keeps getting his chin high up Pav could put him to sleep too. Both these underdogs are live.

Anyway, I see some familiar names in there but nothing particularly sticks out as far as good match ups go except for the main and the co main events.

UFC 295: Countdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHo2cpVJQbU

UFC Free Fight: Prochazka vs Reyes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0kGi7cQ7Uk

UFC Free Fight: Pereira vs Adesanya 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-WSAzluSeE

Enjoy...

If Jiri Prochazka could get the takedown faster then he doesn't need to worry about the knockout power of Pereira, but for sure Alex Pereira has trained in the wings of Glover Texeira and for sure Texeira wants his kid to win against Jiri Prochazka as he got unfinished business with Prochazka for sure, for me this is a very interesting match for me I still don't know who's I going to pick but looking back at their past matches for sure,

Prochazka has the grappling advantage but he doesn't use it much and he really doesn't have the wrestling to complement his grappling like how other fighters do. So dunno... I think it's gonna be mostly a stand up match which, let's be real, it's gonna be better for the fans imho. Grin

And if it does then I fear for Prochazka.

Quote from: TopTort777 on November 09, 2023, 06:38:04 AM

What a weird man who made that video Grin

counting and editing all that.

Btw, I find it strange, that bookies dont have an obvious winner in paira Jiri vs Pereira and Pavlovich vs Aspinal. Only Pereira and Aspinal have little advantage. I guess we gonna have some close fights. However, I still dont understand why they evaluate Jiri so high. Except Teixeira I see no big names in his record.

^ Yup that's why I have Peirera after going back and forth in my mind. And there's the long lay off cos of the shoulder injury. There could be ring rust.

UFC 295: Embedded Episode 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJpGOeUk-WU

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What a weird man who made that video Grin

counting and editing all that.

Btw, I find it strange, that bookies dont have an obvious winner in paira Jiri vs Pereira and Pavlovich vs Aspinal. Only Pereira and Aspinal have little advantage. I guess we gonna have some close fights. However, I still dont understand why they evaluate Jiri so high. Except Teixeira I see no big names in his record.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 08, 2023, 12:36:49 AM

Of course current Jan is not an indicator of a fighter in prime and on top level. But I remember how he threw Izzy or I could say neutralized his striking by wrestling and ground control. A fight between Jan vs Pereira - Jan got old and wrestled less, but Pereira is not a top wrestler yet managed to defend all attacks. So in overall it a balances fight (if we speak about strength and skills) were Pereira won. That is why I think Jiri could do little against Pereira in wrestling and it would be a pure striker fight, were Pereira is better.

i did look at some of the analyses of MMA fans over youtube and found one somehow changed my mind. although this is something that is irrelevant between Jiri and Alex because each of them has his own style.

i thought maybe i should share it here to see what you guys can say about this kind of video and whether it could leave doubts about what Alex could do against Jiri.
so he compiled all the left hooks that Alex made since the start of his MMA career up to the latest with Błachowicz, counted up to 120 and only 54 hurt his rival.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-27KMKWRzg

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Quote from: bittraffic on November 07, 2023, 10:43:38 AM

Quote from: TopTort777 on November 07, 2023, 03:43:50 AM

Quote from: YuginKadoya on November 06, 2023, 11:39:53 AM

But Tom Aspinal VS Sergei Pavlovich is one interesting fight and his fight will be shown in that particular fight,

For me this fight is way more interesting than main event, as these two are potential next heavyweight champions. With Jiri and Pereira it looks like it is already clear who is going to win. UFC decided to throw Jiri, a guy who returns from injury and havent fought for more than a year, into a monster with concrete fists. Imho Pereira gonna land his left hook and finish everything in first or second round. But in a fight between Pavlovich and Aspinal, its power against tactics. That is really interesting to watch. As I have never seen Pavlovich defending against bjj.

Dana should have just stripped Jones of his belt and let the two fight for it to make this event bigger.

Nah... There isn't any really legit reason to strip him off the belt. He got injured and will prolly be back in 6 months or so. And if not after a year, then yeah good time to strip him off the belt. No reason to hold the division back altogether.

Here's 295 Emdedded's second episode...

UFC 295: Embedded Episode 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfdS3Obpcdw

And again here's jeremypwr's Multi Master. Available to all participants of the pools indicated. I'm lucky enough to be eligible as I joined the F1 pool. Yipeee! Grin

UFC 295: Multi Master Challenge
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-295-multi-master-challenge-saturday-5473258

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Of course current Jan is not an indicator of a fighter in prime and on top level. But I remember how he threw Izzy or I could say neutralized his striking by wrestling and ground control. A fight between Jan vs Pereira - Jan got old and wrestled less, but Pereira is not a top wrestler yet managed to defend all attacks. So in overall it a balances fight (if we speak about strength and skills) were Pereira won. That is why I think Jiri could do little against Pereira in wrestling and it would be a pure striker fight, were Pereira is better.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 07, 2023, 09:26:26 AM

Imho Pereira just land heavier strikes then Jiri and it will be enough to win. I really doubt Jiri gonna have an advantage on the ground, because that is not just his field. It will be pure kickboxing vs muay thai, where reach and power of Pereira would do all the work. Pereira won Polish power, and he had better wrestling than Jiri. Also Jiri is less powerfull than Blachowicz. Plus Jiri would be cautious because of operatuon he had.

I think that's how it will likely go down. Prochazka will probably try his luck and attempt to out-strike Pereira, if that fails, he'll have no choice but to attempt to take it to the ground. It won't be easy though. Pereira's base sport might be kickboxing, but he spent last few years on mastering takedown defence, so won't be as vulnerable as many may think.
I'm not sure if Pereira's fight against Blachowicz is good indication of anything. I have a lot of sympathy to Jan (he's my compatriot) but he's way past his prime. He's cardio is lacking and it affects his entre game. Prochazka is in his prime years and still has that drive and right mentality, whereas Pereira' main goal is likely to earn as much as possible before retiring in 2-3 years.
It's going to be an interesting one for sure.

Quote from: bittraffic on November 07, 2023, 10:43:38 AM

Dana should have just stripped Jones of his belt and let the two fight for it to make this event bigger.

They are fighting for the interim belt though.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 07, 2023, 03:43:50 AM

Quote from: YuginKadoya on November 06, 2023, 11:39:53 AM

But Tom Aspinal VS Sergei Pavlovich is one interesting fight and his fight will be shown in that particular fight,

For me this fight is way more interesting than main event, as these two are potential next heavyweight champions. With Jiri and Pereira it looks like it is already clear who is going to win. UFC decided to throw Jiri, a guy who returns from injury and havent fought for more than a year, into a monster with concrete fists. Imho Pereira gonna land his left hook and finish everything in first or second round. But in a fight between Pavlovich and Aspinal, its power against tactics. That is really interesting to watch. As I have never seen Pavlovich defending against bjj.

Dana should have just stripped Jones of his belt and let the two fight for it to make this event bigger.

On the ground is the last thing Pavlo wants, if he can remain standing he will prefer to fight on his feet.
Pavlo was taken by Overeem and with almost no struggle Overeem hammered him to KO. Aspinall could do this too if he finds Pavlo hard to hit because of the jabs. But because Pavlo is a big guy, he would need rapid punches to flatline a heavyweight like Pavlo.

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Quote from: tokeweed on November 06, 2023, 06:37:27 AM

I have a feeling Jiri Prochazka is gonna get caught and cracked in the chin then get starched. Dunno... It's just from Prochazka's matches he leaves himself wide open.

As for Aspinall, I have him to win but if he keeps getting his chin high up Pav could put him to sleep too. Both these underdogs are live.

Anyway, I see some familiar names in there but nothing particularly sticks out as far as good match ups go except for the main and the co main events.

UFC 295: Countdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHo2cpVJQbU

UFC Free Fight: Prochazka vs Reyes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0kGi7cQ7Uk

UFC Free Fight: Pereira vs Adesanya 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-WSAzluSeE

Enjoy...

If Jiri Prochazka could get the takedown faster then he doesn't need to worry about the knockout power of Pereira, but for sure Alex Pereira has trained in the wings of Glover Texeira and for sure Texeira wants his kid to win against Jiri Prochazka as he got unfinished business with Prochazka for sure, for me this is a very interesting match for me I still don't know who's I going to pick but looking back at their past matches for sure,

Quote from: pawel7777 on November 06, 2023, 11:14:40 AM

Choosing the strategy for this fight won't be easy for Jiri. He himself prefers striking, but will be facing someone who's (on paper) better than him in at it. I don't expect he will try to move the fight to the ground. Maybe he'll be attempting some takedowns in an effort to score some points and win rounds. But if the samurai mentality kicks in, we may see a real slug fest.
This fight has really good entertainment potential.

In my opinion, Jiri Prochazka is aware of the danger of Alex Pereira's striking and knockout power I think Jiri Prochazka will try everything in his power to win this one and I think he can not afford to lose it, for sure Prochazka would want to try his striking and could try the waters but I think he will have a realization and go for the fight on the ground,

Quote from: TopTort777 on November 07, 2023, 09:26:26 AM

Imho Pereira just land heavier strikes then Jiri and it will be enough to win. I really doubt Jiri gonna have an advantage on the ground, because that is not just his field. It will be pure kickboxing vs muay thai, where reach and power of Pereira would do all the work. Pereira won Polish power, and he had better wrestling than Jiri. Also Jiri is less powerfull than Blachowicz. Plus Jiri would be cautious because of operatuon he had.

Jiri Prochazka had a great performance against Glover Texeira even though he is not into ground fights I think he can pull this up for me Jiri can adjust to the situation even though if he wants to pursue this fight on a stand-up he will go into a realization that he needs to get this fight into the ground because for sure it is not safe for him, to go toe to toe with Alex Pereira,

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Imho Pereira just land heavier strikes then Jiri and it will be enough to win. I really doubt Jiri gonna have an advantage on the ground, because that is not just his field. It will be pure kickboxing vs muay thai, where reach and power of Pereira would do all the work. Pereira won Polish power, and he had better wrestling than Jiri. Also Jiri is less powerfull than Blachowicz. Plus Jiri would be cautious because of operatuon he had.

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Quote from: pawel7777 on November 06, 2023, 11:14:40 AM

Quote from: tokeweed on November 06, 2023, 06:37:27 AM

I have a feeling Jiri Prochazka is gonna get caught and cracked in the chin then get starched. Dunno... It's just from Prochazka's matches he leaves himself wide open.

Choosing the strategy for this fight won't be easy for Jiri. He himself prefers striking, but will be facing someone who's (on paper) better than him in at it. I don't expect he will try to move the fight to the ground. Maybe he'll be attempting some takedowns in an effort to score some points and win rounds. But if the samurai mentality kicks in, we may see a real slug fest.
This fight has really good entertainment potential.

Quote from: tokeweed on November 06, 2023, 06:37:27 AM

As for Aspinall, I have him to win but if he keeps getting his chin high up Pav could put him to sleep too. Both these underdogs are live.

With all the sympathy for Pavlovich, I think it'll be an easy win for Aspinall. He's just technically better, faster and more determined. But heavyweight is the most unpredictable.

Not exactly sure if we could say Pereira's striking is better than Prochazka's but let let's just say they're different. Prochazka's style is unorthodox and a bit awkward while Pereira has the fundamentals down to a tee and he's more efficient in his movement. But between the two, Prochazka is prolly harder to take down and has the grappling advantage. But then again he leaves himself open at stand up. :/ A huge flaw in his game.

Dunno... Don't think Aspinall would want any of that smoke in the early rounds. He might try to drag it out to the later rounds and try to get Pav tired somehow. I think early rounds are gonna be close.

UFC Free Fight: Pavlovich vs Blaydes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5AeCYIhWds

UFC Free Fight: Aspinall vs Tybura
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhPNNgPESTg

UFC 295: Embedded Episode 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajoKxKnyDrs

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on November 06, 2023, 11:39:53 AM

But Tom Aspinal VS Sergei Pavlovich is one interesting fight and his fight will be shown in that particular fight,

For me this fight is way more interesting than main event, as these two are potential next heavyweight champions. With Jiri and Pereira it looks like it is already clear who is going to win. UFC decided to throw Jiri, a guy who returns from injury and havent fought for more than a year, into a monster with concrete fists. Imho Pereira gonna land his left hook and finish everything in first or second round. But in a fight between Pavlovich and Aspinal, its power against tactics. That is really interesting to watch. As I have never seen Pavlovich defending against bjj.

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Quote from: cabron on November 06, 2023, 11:49:11 AM

I can't see this fight going the distance nor Jiri taking this to a ground fight, but both will have some advantage which could play out to end the fight and most probably it will be over in round 2.

Jiri being inactive and coming out from shoulder surgery and Pereira being in his favored weight class, he can certainly just fight toe to toe with Jiri and will KO Jiri by head kick or a big swing to the chin. Or Pereira could blackout with just a straight punch being so open whenever he kicks.

That's why they are a good match-up to have this weekend and it will not take long as you said because both are good finishers in their own way. But I think Pereira is the underdog here because of his performance in his last fight but that's understandable since he came from a loss to Adesanya which was not really good for him since he used to bully that guy.

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Real shame that Jon Jones vs Stipe Miocic was canceled, but I am really excited to see how Alex Pereira will perform against Jiri Prochazka.
Both fighters have amazing skills but two totally different styles, and I think Prochazka have better chances this weekend.
I am looking at odds on Sportsbet now and I cant believe bookmakers made Pereira such a big favorite in this event.
There is clear value in betting on Prochazka for me, but anything can happen with just one good kick or punch.
https://sportsbet.io/sports/mma/ufc/matches/future

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on November 06, 2023, 11:39:53 AM

What can I say it wasn't doing anything to Derrick Lewis at all so I guess the neck of Derrick Lewis was made of Steel or Jailton Almeida is not really that strong and after this fight how do I really wish Derrick Lewis would do anything when he was in the ground but Derrick Lewis was just sleeping in there and for sure was pretty much relaxing for sure Jailton Almeida should learn how to punch while he was riding Derrick Lewis, but he doesn't do a thing,

And yeah the Prelims indeed was the place where Jailton Almeida would surely get, after this fight for sure he is not ready for a Sergei Pavlovich or a Tom Aspinal fight, because he will not win that fight for sure I was really fallen asleep watching this fight,

You have to give Almeida some credit though. He was fighting a dangerous striker with proven KO power, it would be stupid of him to stand up and exchange. He did what he had to do to win the fight and move up in the ranks. He's focus was on winning and not on the entertainment.
Yeah, there's no chance he'll be fighting for the belt in his next fight. He'll most likely have to face someone from the middle of the top 10 first, maybe Blaydes or Volkov, and if he passes the test, he could be fighting for the title then.

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