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July 10, 2023, 03:33:40 PM
Was not surprised that Pantoja would win. He is like a cryptonite fo Superman, like Pereira for Izzy  Grin
Now I think Pantoja would defende his belt against Kratos, and then would probably face Moreno again. And only then, Moreno would win.

Btw guys, what do you think about series of 3-4 fights between one and the same fighters? Does it makes division boring or pause for others. Is it ok, as other fighters level aint that good as those who have series.

That Pantoja win is full of controversy so I think that Dana White will do something about that and will surely make a rematch on this and For Brandon Moreno is used to back-to-back fights like this he surely has a great back-to-back fight against Deiveson Figueiredo and eventually has proven his worth by winning that fight so maybe we can see a rematch between the two for sure,

Well In getting a series of 3 - 4 fights with the same fighters for me I am OK with it as long as they will show a banger of a fight, for example, the Israel Adesanya fight with Alex Pereira, that Deiveson Figueiredo and Brandon Moreno back to back fight has something different and exciting every time these two fights so I am OK with it it is good if we are not expecting the result ahead but if it was completely one-sided,


Rodriguez was never able to find an approach to Volkanovski, despite the advantage in height, he just tried to get Volkanovski, but instead he ran into a series of blows, after rapprochement. Actually Rodriguez noticeably fizzled out in the second round. In the third round, the same mistakes and in close combat, Rodriguez missed a blow to the jaw and Volkanovski, in the usual manner, transferred Rodriguez to the floor and ended the fight with a series of blows. If evaluate the fight, then everything was under the complete control of Volkanovski, and in fact, Rodriguez had no chance.

That series of blow of kicks to Volkanovski was entering Volkanovski those are good kicks for Rodriguez and surely Alexander Volkanovski isn't really perfect he doesn't really have a defense against those kicks but in order for him to read Rodriguez fight sequence he let that hit I'm on purpose but the time he gets used to yair Rodriguez sequence of strikes he already knew when to enter it and take Yair a solid punch then takedown to ground and pound, for me that has rocked Yair Rodriguez with solid damage from there,

What was that thing with Robbie Lawler? Did he retire? Or was it just a celebratuon of his 30th victory? I did not manage to watch all tha post fight thing. Saw a KO, repeat but then the tv channel was switches… It is about time for him to retire. 40+ already. Remember him when he had hair and ufc fighters got funny retro trunks  Grin

He retired men, it was his retirement fight that is why Joe Rogan said this in the ring interview and he stated "I am here for the last time the Ruthless Robbie Lawler and that was a storybook ending to an absolutely spectacular career and so on" from that start of an interview I already realized that this is it and this is the ending of his career at the UFC, that is why Joe Rogan was adding the last KO of Lawlers spectacular career, I was a retirement ceremony For Robbie Lawler and watching this surely have tears in Lawler's eyes, here are the Video of that interview,

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July 10, 2023, 01:16:14 PM
Yep. You don't see a 41yr old knocking out ruthlessly a younger fighter everyday.
Better to retire winning the last fight than retiring while you crawl out of the cage. In his retirement fight Lawler did the fastest KO of his career which is 38 seconds. Very worth it day to announce his retirement. Nico Price must have thought, Lawler could be his easy win but turns out a losing steak for him.  

It always sound like a retirement day when 41 yr old fighter is scheduled to fight like Holly Holm. Dana I guess is terminating old contracts.

I don’t think this was a great career for him. But I do think that this was a great finish to his career. After all, who does not want to finish his career with a great knockout at the age of 41?

I honestly did not think that he will be able to win this fight. Not because he is a bad fighter. But because he is just too old. And the statistics of him and his opponent are basically similar. The only major difference between them was probably his experience. But again congratulations to him for his win.
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July 10, 2023, 12:10:07 PM
What was that thing with Robbie Lawler? Did he retire? Or was it just a celebratuon of his 30th victory? I did not manage to watch all tha post fight thing. Saw a KO, repeat but then the tv channel was switches… It is about time for him to retire. 40+ already. Remember him when he had hair and ufc fighters got funny retro trunks  Grin

Yes, he did retire. It was about time. The dude was 41. This was a good fight for him though. Managing to knock someone out who is 33, at the age of 41 is actually really good. I have to say he had a decent career. Probably not one of the best in my opinion. But anyway, congratulations on his win and the best of luck for his future endeavours.

His career record is 30-16-0-1NC.

Yep. You don't see a 41yr old knocking out ruthlessly a younger fighter everyday.
Better to retire winning the last fight than retiring while you crawl out of the cage. In his retirement fight Lawler did the fastest KO of his career which is 38 seconds. Very worth it day to announce his retirement. Nico Price must have thought, Lawler could be his easy win but turns out a losing steak for him.  

It always sound like a retirement day when 41 yr old fighter is scheduled to fight like Holly Holm. Dana I guess is terminating old contracts.

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July 10, 2023, 10:25:10 AM
What was that thing with Robbie Lawler? Did he retire? Or was it just a celebratuon of his 30th victory? I did not manage to watch all tha post fight thing. Saw a KO, repeat but then the tv channel was switches… It is about time for him to retire. 40+ already. Remember him when he had hair and ufc fighters got funny retro trunks  Grin

Yes, he did retire. It was about time. The dude was 41. This was a good fight for him though. Managing to knock someone out who is 33, at the age of 41 is actually really good. I have to say he had a decent career. Probably not one of the best in my opinion. But anyway, congratulations on his win and the best of luck for his future endeavours.

His career record is 30-16-0-1NC.
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July 10, 2023, 09:16:01 AM
Oook...  Since nobody wants to do the dirty work of making the roster for this banger of a card, I guess I'll have to do it.  Lol.  I see a couple of good value bets in there but best to wait til weigh ins.  Wink

And don't forget to watch the post fight press conferences esp the ones from the PPV events.  Always good to hear what the fighters have to say.

UFC 290:  Post Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc1bwAic2ZY

Date:  Saturday, July 15
Main Card (ESPN/ESPN+):  9:00pm EST
Preliminary Card (ESPN/ESPN+):  7:00pm EST
Venue:  UFC Apex Center, Las Vegas, Nevada
Live Streams:



Main Card (ESPN/ESPN+)
Women's Bantamweight:  Holly Holm vs Mayra Bueno Silva            
Middleweight:  Albert Duraev vs Park Jun-yong            
Heavyweight:  Walt Harris vs Josh Parisian            
Women's Featherweight:  Norma Dumont vs Chelsea Chandler            
Lightweight:  Ottman Azaitar vs Francisco Prado            
Lightweight:  Terrance McKinney vs Nazim

Preliminary Card (ESPN/ESPN+)
Featherweight:  Tucker Lutz vs Melsik Baghdasaryan            
Women's Strawweight:  Viktoriia Dudakova vs Istela Nunes            
Featherweight:  Austin Lingo vs Melquizael Costa            
Lightweight:  Evan Elder vs Genaro Valdez            
Flyweight:  Tyson Nam vs Azat Maksum            
Lightweight:  Alexander Munoz vs Carl Deaton III            
Women's Bantamweight:  Ashlee Evans-Smith vs Ailin Perez
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July 10, 2023, 09:04:35 AM
What was that thing with Robbie Lawler? Did he retire? Or was it just a celebratuon of his 30th victory? I did not manage to watch all tha post fight thing. Saw a KO, repeat but then the tv channel was switches… It is about time for him to retire. 40+ already. Remember him when he had hair and ufc fighters got funny retro trunks  Grin
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July 10, 2023, 08:42:56 AM
Alexander Volkanovski VS Yair Rodriguez ROUND 3 KO/TKO - WIN

Alexander Volkanovski has managed to stop Yair Rodriguez's kicks by switching his stance, it was crazy with simple switching Rodriguez now has a hard time making his kicks, which was in the 1st round, and Volkhave gave Rodriguez a hard time with his striking, but on the 3rd round those kicks really were getting the Volk a hard time in defending those he was always getting caught by it until that right hook landed because, on the 3rd round, Volkanovski is actually memorizing Rodriguez rhythm and combination and that was the time that right hook landed then it became a takedown the strength of Volkanovski then those ground and pound to finish the Mexican fighter on his tracks,
Rodriguez was never able to find an approach to Volkanovski, despite the advantage in height, he just tried to get Volkanovski, but instead he ran into a series of blows, after rapprochement. Actually Rodriguez noticeably fizzled out in the second round. In the third round, the same mistakes and in close combat, Rodriguez missed a blow to the jaw and Volkanovski, in the usual manner, transferred Rodriguez to the floor and ended the fight with a series of blows. If evaluate the fight, then everything was under the complete control of Volkanovski, and in fact, Rodriguez had no chance.
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July 10, 2023, 03:57:45 AM
Was not surprised that Pantoja would win. He is like a cryptonite fo Superman, like Pereira for Izzy  Grin
Now I think Pantoja would defende his belt against Kratos, and then would probably face Moreno again. And only then, Moreno would win.

Btw guys, what do you think about series of 3-4 fights between one and the same fighters? Does it makes division boring or pause for others. Is it ok, as other fighters level aint that good as those who have series.
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July 09, 2023, 04:10:49 PM
Yup!  And Pantoja won!  Man that could be one of the top fights of the year imho.  But I don't think it's a split decision.  Pantoja won the fight unanimously, I think one of the judges gave 4 rounds to Moreno.  Lol.  He clearly wasn't watching the fight.
This was a great fight card with lots of KO wins and only four decision wins!
Volkanovski is back on top for featherweight category but now he needs to do the same thing in lightweight category with Islam Makhachev rematch.
I would really want to see if he can perform better and beat Makhachev, but this is not going to be easy to do with guy who is like Khabib 2 Smiley
Biggest surprise for me in this card was Alexandre Pantoja winning against Brandon Moreno, but it was only a split decision thanks to refs again.
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July 09, 2023, 03:57:26 PM
If you had the same bets then we all have the same bets aswell, creepy!

Anyway here are the result of my picks for the UFC 290

Alexander Volkanovski VS Yair Rodriguez ROUND 3 KO/TKO - WIN

Alexander Volkanovski has managed to stop Yair Rodriguez's kicks by switching his stance, it was crazy with simple switching Rodriguez now has a hard time making his kicks, which was in the 1st round, and Volkhave gave Rodriguez a hard time with his striking, but on the 3rd round those kicks really were getting the Volk a hard time in defending those he was always getting caught by it until that right hook landed because, on the 3rd round, Volkanovski is actually memorizing Rodriguez rhythm and combination and that was the time that right hook landed then it became a takedown the strength of Volkanovski then those ground and pound to finish the Mexican fighter on his tracks,

Brandon Moreno VS Alexandre Pantoja ROUND 5 DECISION - LOST

I was really surprised I really thought that Brandon Moreno have won the fight, it was really a close match but Alexandre Pantoja really is a hard-to-beat fighter for sure and we can surely see it in these two fighters' past fights Brandon Moreno really is having a hard time with Pantoja, but in this fight, it was really a close match that we can not see who really won the fight, but it was a very controversial fight that is what I got to say but for me, Brandon Moreno should have won,

Robert Whittaker VS Dricus Du Plessis ROUND 2 KO/TKO - LOST

Now in this fight, I really never expected Robert Whittaker to be defeated like this and Dricus Du Plessis really did his research very well against Whittaker and because of Dricus Du Plessis's power on his strikes it is easy for him to knockout Whittaker surely this is a great performance from Du Plessis was really great and the thing is his next opponent is Israel Adesanya this is going to be great a new fight for Izzy is going to be phenomenal,



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July 09, 2023, 02:02:17 PM

Looks like we got the same result lol I only got Volkanovski right. Very hard to predict which fighter is going to win these days. Even the bookie thought DDP will lose the fight but just look at how it ends. Moreno who I think will dominate as well gets tagged many times.

I think it would have been worth going all-in for Nickal despite the small percentage of win amount. Seem like the bookie had assured to meet the expectation.
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July 09, 2023, 11:18:15 AM
The result of my bet on the UFC 290,

Alexander Volkanovski (1.26) VS Yair Rodriguez (3.95) - WIN

Alexander Volkanovski has proven that he is the real deal and the number 1 Featherweight in this fight he really did a masterful class performance in this fight, in the 1st round in preparation for Yair Rodriguez's kicks he was switching from orthodox to southpaw, continuously this will surely mess Rodriguez momentum with his kicks his preparation and with that he capitalized with it to disrupts Rodriguez kicks, and we can see Volkanovski's strength when he takedown Rodriguez and controls him to the ground, and when Rodriguez is going with a triangle choke Volkanovski is one step ahead of Rodriguez he even defended it knowing Rodriguez every move, and so Volkanovski finishes him to the ground, a truly masterful class performance indeed,



Brandon Moreno (1.47) VS Alexandre Pantoja (2.70) - LOST

Just like I have said this is going to be a close fight for sure Brandon Moreno is great but it was not like in their 1st match Pantoja was really giving it to Moreno but in this fight Brandon Moreno making the fight a close one for me Moreno really improve but again the fight was close and there is a certain controversy about who really win but for me, Alexandre Pantoja won because of the judges it was a split decision for me it should be a draw because both fighters have shown their craft, but Moreno got to crack on the 1st round his chin is giving up on him now and he can feel it but still it was a close match for sure,



Robert Whittaker (1.26) VS Dricus Du Plessis (3.95) - LOST

Dricus Du Plessis has done his homework and he is studying Robert Whittaker, in what to land and when he will punch him, I really think Jared Cannonier has exposed Whittaker on that straight right but Du Plessis just execute it with Finesse it is much more effective while he is executing it, and we can see that Du Plessis power with his striking that rocks Whittaker, and even though Whittaker has the fight IQ he needs Du Plessis is doing his homework and executing it in full detail,


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July 09, 2023, 10:06:23 AM
^  Yup!  And Pantoja won!  Man that could be one of the top fights of the year imho.  But I don't think it's a split decision.  Pantoja won the fight unanimously, I think one of the judges gave 4 rounds to Moreno.  Lol.  He clearly wasn't watching the fight.

Pantoja show us an awesome fight, I was having a feeling about Moreno failing in that fight, and that's why I place a small $20 bet on Pantoja to win x2.7, and it was an awesome fight, I feel like Moreno has a trauma about his past lost with Pantoja and that's why he fights with fear.

But in general was a bad day for the Mexican Fighters, all of them did a terrible job, specially Yair Rodriguez, I was having some good expectations about him, I was thinking he would fight the same way that he did against Emmet, but I was wrong, and that mistake cost me 0.5LTC, not a big deal, but I'm disappointed.
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July 09, 2023, 09:21:34 AM
^  Yup!  And Pantoja won!  Man that could be one of the top fights of the year imho.  But I don't think it's a split decision.  Pantoja won the fight unanimously, I think one of the judges gave 4 rounds to Moreno.  Lol.  He clearly wasn't watching the fight.
It was a really close fight and i need to watch the fight once more because i was upset after the Rob Whittaker loss but one of the judge was way off in scoring the fight and it is time that they start appointing judges who have the knowledge about the sport.

And our pie shitter of the event, Rob Whittaker.  Never expected DDP to finish him like he did.  Anybody thinks DDP could win vs Adesanya in a 5 round scrap?
I was expecting Rob Whittaker to win the fight but the size difference was obvious as Dricus Du Plessis was able to overpower him on the ground and was able to control him whenever the fight goes to the ground but against Adesanya it will be really interesting as Adesanya is a great striker and would controls the distance really well.
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July 09, 2023, 08:37:39 AM
That judge, that gave Moreno 4 rounds was sitting with his back to octagon lol  Grin
As to Whittaker fight - it was somehow expected. Robert is on way to retirement. This is example what Khabib once told - fighter can be in peak form once. Robert was in best form already, had belt. Now his career is close to going down.
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July 09, 2023, 08:24:43 AM
^  Yup!  And Pantoja won!  Man that could be one of the top fights of the year imho.  But I don't think it's a split decision.  Pantoja won the fight unanimously, I think one of the judges gave 4 rounds to Moreno.  Lol.  He clearly wasn't watching the fight.

And our pie shitter of the event, Rob Whittaker.  Never expected DDP to finish him like he did.  Anybody thinks DDP could win vs Adesanya in a 5 round scrap?

UFC 290:  Post Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc1bwAic2ZY
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July 09, 2023, 04:56:01 AM
The fight we have discussed less here turned to be most interesting. Moreno vs Pantoja. Me, like many, though that current champ would win. But Moreno and Pantoja have already met and Pantoja won twice. This time Pantoja fairly won again, by split decision. Its is 3-0 between them already. And it seems to be they gonna meet again (due to split). This is gonna be fourth fight. Also Moreno fought 4 times with Figueiredo. Flyweight is so full if huge fight series… Top5 of flyweight fighters pause whole division, until they stop fighting between each other only.
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July 08, 2023, 07:18:02 PM

That's fine.  I think it should be encouraged that regs itt post and share any interesting developments from the UFC.  Wink  And while it's def gonna be a decent match up, it's still not Ngannou vs Jones.  Sad  That would've been the MMA heavy weight match up for the ages.  If I were in the UFC brass, I'd offer Ngannou a one fight contract that's worth something Ngannou would find hard to refuse.  That fight needs to happen imho...  For the fans.


I really don't want to see Stipe Miocic gets eaten by Jone Jones and just like what you say for sure it is a good watch to see Jon Jones VS Francis Ngannou but that fight is pretty much blurred to be seen but for me if not Stipe Miocic I want to see Jon Jones fights Sergei Pavlovich that is a much greater fight to watch or Jailton Almeida even though he is just on top 9th on the ranking I really think that these two fighters are the only one that could solely hit Jon Jones with fear in losing before he leaves the UFC on retirement,

I think Yair will be crowned the new champ today. I've been watching him for quite a while now and I've never seen anything like him before. He's unique in so many aspects that you simply cannot ignore him anymore and that's why I think he is destined to become champion. Also , once he starts to let those kicks out ...it's simply a nightmare to get hit 3 or 4 times in a row by him.

Alexander is great , ferocious and so many others but his box body will make him a target that Yair cannot miss with his kicks. I also don't get it why Alexander is favorite in this fight with odds being so unfair in my opinion.

For me the odds are not unfair, Alexander Volkanovski is the champion so it is normal that he is the favorite here, and for me even though he lost to Islam Makhachev he showed a great performance back there but I surely agree with you Yair Rodriguez is a unique fighter and I really love his style the kicks was great because I was once trained in Taekwondo so yeah those kicks was superb for me while seeing it being executed by him but for sure I would want to be on the safest bet and don't really want to risk it so I have gone with Volkanovski,

Tatsuro Taira - Edgar Cháirez

Tatsuro Taira is a fighter who was born in Naha, Okinawa, Japan, he is 23 years old and has 5 years of professional career, and he already had 13 fights throughout his professional career, something very interesting about Tatsuro Taira and that he still hasn't lost in any fight, in the 13 fights he's had 3 wins were by knockout, 7 by submission and 3 by decision, while his opponent Edgar Cháirez was born in Mexicali, Baja California, Mexico, he's 27 years old, he has 7 years of professional career in which he has had 14 fights, winning 10 fights and losing 4 fights, with 6 wins by submission and 4 by knockout. I'll follow the bookmakers, for me Tatsuro Taira will win this fight

Alexander Volkanovski - Yair Rodriguez

Alexander Volkanovski was born in Shellharbour, New South Wales, he is 34 years old and has more than 10 years of professional career, in more than 10 of his professional career he had 27 fights in which he won 25 and lost only 2 fights. being that
He has 12 wins by knockout, 10 by decision and 3 by submission. on the other side we have Yair Rodríguez who was born in Parral, Chihuahua, Mexico, he is a fighter who is 30 years old, already has 12 years of professional career, had 19 fights in which he won 15 fights and lost in 3 fights, 6 wins by decision, 5 by knockout, 4 by submission, in my opinion despite Rodríguez being an athlete with a long professional career, he dominates several fighting styles, also in most of the fights he has won, I still see him losing in this fight, so for me Alexander Volkanovski won the fight

Surely I have gone and bet for Tatsuro Taira but his odds was really so much that betting on him on plain winning the fight is not going to be profitable for me, if I have some extra maybe I can get a bet for him but surely great picks and bet actually,

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July 08, 2023, 06:09:53 PM
UFC 290 Bets and Prediction

Alexander Volkanovski (1.26) VS Yair Rodriguez (3.95)

Yair Rodriguez is a cool guy actually I really want the way he fights just like watching Anime and action movies with all the kicks but this is reality and Rodriguez is applying it smoothly with his fights, but the thing that I don't like about Yair Rodriguez is that style would surely cause a lot of mistakes and Volkanovski could capitalize on that and I can not trust his stamina those wild kicks and movement would likely require a lot of stamina I I often times seeing him catches his breath on his fights sometimes on the last rounds, and Alexander Volkanovski's fight IQ is amazing if you see his fight against Islam Makhachev that is superb even though he lost he showed that Makhachev can not bully him on the ground and that is outstanding,  



Brandon Moreno (1.47) VS Alexandre Pantoja (2.70)

This is going to be a revenge fight for Brandon Moreno back on their fight on May 19, 2018, and right now Brandon Moreno had said that he was very confident going to the fight, and for me this is going to be a banger of a fight a close fight for sure both of these guys are well-rounded for sure in terms of striking and the ground but for me, Brandon Moreno really has the heart and he will never back down to this for me I like Brandon Moreno even more so my pick is Brandon Moreno,



Robert Whittaker (1.26) VS Dricus Du Plessis (3.95)

Dricus Du Plessis has average boxing and he got strength with his striking he also got good grappling and ground game but for me, Robert Whittaker has superior in striking particularly boxing with a mix of kicks and when it comes to his fight IQ he has superb in that part, and good takedown defense, I don't know what to say but I see Robert Whittaker just like Alexander Volkanovski, and what can I say they both appear as our favorite wrestler as Stone Cold Steve Austin for Volk and The Hulk Hogan for Whittaker, for sure I think that Robert Whittaker could win this for sure so my pick will be Robert Whittaker,


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July 08, 2023, 01:32:05 PM
Not to hi-jack UFC 290 but Jones vs. Miocic is official! They will headline UFC 295 on Nov. 11

Dana's announcement: https://rumble.com/v2yqvrr-dana-white-announces-jon-jones-vs-stipe-miocic-to-headline-ufc-295.html

That's fine.  I think it should be encouraged that regs itt post and share any interesting developments from the UFC.  Wink  And while it's def gonna be a decent match up, it's still not Ngannou vs Jones.  Sad  That would've been the MMA heavy weight match up for the ages.  If I were in the UFC brass, I'd offer Ngannou a one fight contract that's worth something Ngannou would find hard to refuse.  That fight needs to happen imho...  For the fans.
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Yep. Jones vs Miocic seems predictable already but it's not what people demand. Dana saw people are eager to see their fight during their PFL face-off. If arranged, we'll see them in the cage next year.

Meanwhile, Helwani said the fight between Fury and Ngannou will probably happen sooner than expected. They are making it happen which will be bigger than UFC 295 and if they really want to see which PPV will be availed more, they could schedule it on Nov 11 as well.


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