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August 05, 2023, 02:49:11 AM
Seeking lack of interest in this weeks event. Tokeweed time spent on creating event description post is wasted  Grin

The only fight that I would watch the main event fight between Sandhagen and Font, because he (Sandhagen) is going to be Sterling or Dvalishvili next opponent. Sterling faces O’Malley in two weeks, imho Sean gonna win, and Sterling dont want to fight Dvalishvili as they are friends and teammates.
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August 04, 2023, 04:22:49 PM
A think that Ankalaev wrestling skills are much better than Blachowicz and it would be easier for Magomed to submit Pereira. We really dont know how good Pereiras wrestling skills are (because he hasnt faced a good opponent yet), but something tells me that a any man with a name Magomev that is into martial arts can get him to the ground and choke. Maybe this is a created vision that Pereira is only a kickboxer that bother me to objectively evaluate Pereira, but I cant seem him wrestling. 

Lol, that's the thing, people assume that anyone from Dagestan must be a great wrestler. Although Ankalaev has wrestling and sambo background, his fighting style looks nothing like say Khabib or Islam. He clearly prefers stand-up striking.

As for Pereira, given his age, I don't think he'll be able to improve his ground game massively. He'll be focussed on takedown defence and the ability to get back up if taken down.

I'd much rather see Prochazka fighting Pereira, but Ankalaev deserves that fight more.
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August 04, 2023, 03:24:24 PM

Glad that you have reminded me about Jiri Prochazka. I keep on forgetting to post a question here for a long time Cheesy Do you guys know that Jamahal Hill got injured during playing basketball and has relinquished his UFC light heavyweight title ? According to UFC.com he is still a champ, according to wiki belt seems to be vacant. So what now? Who is the real champ (Jiri?)? Who is gonna fight for a belt now? Jiri and Ankalaev, according to position in ranking. But does Ankalaev deserve a chance, since he had draw with Blachovicz and Blachovicz lost his last fight via split decision?

This is announced by Jamahal Hill on his Youtube Channel but the UFC isn't responding to his video yet this is his Video on his Channel https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVmncy3cuOI I think this is 3 weeks ago, well, he said that he is focusing on healing and readying himself but for sure he really doesn't like to Vacate his belt but because he is injured he likely will not want the belt to be vacated but it is what it is,

Well for the Vacated Belt maybe we can see Jiří Procházka VS Alex Pereira for the vacated belt so yeah maybe this is going to be the next event and it is still in progress by Dana White,

Fans were already used to seeing Pereira sending his opponents down the floor. It so happens Blachowicz is also big and fights him by wrestling not in a standing fight. Maybe the reason why they made Alex won. People think it is robbery but the UFC sees it as an opportunity to make another match. Both Pereira and Anklakaev I think will not win against Prochazka.

They are really making it hard for Pereira to climb if they match him againsts Anklakaev. He may have won Jan's Wrestling but Dagentan wresting is a bit superior.



In that recent fight with Alex Pereira surely he has a hard time against Jan Blachowicz so what if he gets fitted against Magomed Ankalaev and Jiří Procházka sure he would lose because for me I think those two got a level of wrestling pretty much superior to Jamahal Hill, for sure Alex Pereira, in my opinion, isn't ready yet against those big guys on the top, and if Glover Texeira can not give all that he knows to Alex Pereira, then he will not have a chance against them, so yeah for sure Alex Pereira will need to train harder,
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August 04, 2023, 01:00:54 PM
The only matches that I'm slightly confident are:
Tatiana Suarez
Kennedy Nzechukwu   
Diego Lopes

But changes can happen after weigh-in. Decisions might change after examining them in the pre-conference some of them may not be as confident as they seem. Especially the fighters who reduced their weight. I think Thompson was right about his decision to shy his fight against Michel Pereira because of the 4lbs difference.
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August 04, 2023, 07:54:46 AM
^  205 is in shambles.  I think the UFC was hoping for Pereira to have a great showing in his first match at 205 but it was really a lack luster performance.  Would people really pay to watch him vs Jiri Prochazka?  It's the same situation as Ankalaev.  But between Pereira and Ankalaev, I'd rather see Ankalaev vs Prochazka.  The UFC could prolly make it a co main event of Jones vs Miocic or something.

A think that Ankalaev wrestling skills are much better than Blachowicz and it would be easier for Magomed to submit Pereira. We really dont know how good Pereiras wrestling skills are (because he hasnt faced a good opponent yet), but something tells me that a any man with a name Magomev that is into martial arts can get him to the ground and choke. Maybe this is a created vision that Pereira is only a kickboxer that bother me to objectively evaluate Pereira, but I cant seem him wrestling.

Anklakaev vs Prochazka is what I would watch. I think Ankalaev deserves a title fight (not for a vacant belt). That fight against Blachowicz was strange, many thought that Ankalaev won. Ankalaev got offended on judges after that fight btw. He even though to retire after that draw, but that was a more like an emotional announcement.

Fans were already used to seeing Pereira sending his opponents down the floor. It so happens Blachowicz is also big and fights him by wrestling not in a standing fight. Maybe the reason why they made Alex won. People think it is robbery but the UFC sees it as an opportunity to make another match. Both Pereira and Anklakaev I think will not win against Prochazka.

They are really making it hard for Pereira to climb if they match him againsts Anklakaev. He may have won Jan's Wrestling but Dagentan wresting is a bit superior.



Ankalaev tho low volume could win vs Prochazka imho.  Prochazka is fast and athletic but he isn't really that good if you think about it.  Jamahal Hill could out fox him in a striking battle and an over the hill guy in Teixeira was ahead in all rounds and almost won against him if the old guy didn't gas out.  Lol. 

Anyway what are your most confident bets for the weekend?  What do you guys think of Sandhagen?  Max bet?  I have 80 bucks available at the end of the week.  Lolol.

Weigh ins in 9 hours...

UFC Nashville:  Ceremonial Weigh Ins
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ7OIJhkRIc
legendary
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August 04, 2023, 02:58:01 AM
Both Pereira and Anklakaev I think will not win against Prochazka.

If only Prochazka fully recovered from shoulder injury.

Lol, we are still discussing UFC 291 and potential fights instead of Sandhagen vs Font event that is going to happen in few days. I did not notice previously, but wikipedia has started to post information about how much UFC has earned through ticket sales. For example on UFC 291, UFC has earned 6.5 millions only on tickets.
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August 04, 2023, 01:56:17 AM
This was UFC event with very unexpected results for me, my money was on Jan Błachowicz and Justin Gaethje to do the job a nd win but they both lost  Tongue
I am giving credits to Pereira and I had my doubts about him going one division higher after losing from Adesanya, but he proved me wrong.
I think it's time for Tony Ferguson to finally retire after losing so many fights in a row, it is sad to watch him like this and Dana is just milking him for more money.
Derrick Lewis is back with a win and I was sure he was going out similar way like Ferguson, but maybe we are going to see few more good fights from him.

Justin Gaethje lost? I though he won at the UFC 291 against Dustin Poirier, while Jan Blachowicz really lost a close match to the ground but with the stand-up for me Alex Pereira surely won it, and the judges will surely priorities the points on damage well, damage truimps all, so it is likely that Pereira really won that fight for sure Alex Pereira needs to improve his ground approached, he will likely be controlled in there by someone that have a much higher level of wrestling than Jan Blachowicz,

For sure I agree with the Tony Ferguson retiring to the UFC, maybe try his luck with a different Organization where he can become relevant again because there is a level of competition towards different organization, I think Tony Ferguson can surely won a few fight make some money in that or even become a champion in that Organization, we can not say for sure,


It's really hard to win after a loss especially when you get knocked out by your past opponent because the emotional damage will be the main problem for you to not to focus and be scared to attack in your next fight. Thankfully he handled it well and managed to beat his opponent in the upper weight class and he should be staying there for a while in order to be comfortable until getting a worthy opponent once again. As for Tony Ferguson, he has done a good job to accept that fight but that's not gonna work well just like that, and losing that fight might gonna be considered for him to finally retire for real.

Well, I think Alex Pereira have learned something from Israel Adesanya getting back up from a lost and that lost from Israel Adesanya will surely reminded him how top be powerful in his next fight, well for sure our minds have a bigger part in creating those wins and pretty much it is a struggle of mind over matter battle on what is going on with each fight on Israel Adesanya's case he surely keep thinking to unleashed his inner beast and he has done it, and from this lost Alex Pereira has shown to never give up in those struggle so for me I think he will likely going to be champion in this division and for Israel Adesanya to take it from him,

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August 03, 2023, 04:28:55 PM
^  205 is in shambles.  I think the UFC was hoping for Pereira to have a great showing in his first match at 205 but it was really a lack luster performance.  Would people really pay to watch him vs Jiri Prochazka?  It's the same situation as Ankalaev.  But between Pereira and Ankalaev, I'd rather see Ankalaev vs Prochazka.  The UFC could prolly make it a co main event of Jones vs Miocic or something.

A think that Ankalaev wrestling skills are much better than Blachowicz and it would be easier for Magomed to submit Pereira. We really dont know how good Pereiras wrestling skills are (because he hasnt faced a good opponent yet), but something tells me that a any man with a name Magomev that is into martial arts can get him to the ground and choke. Maybe this is a created vision that Pereira is only a kickboxer that bother me to objectively evaluate Pereira, but I cant seem him wrestling.

Anklakaev vs Prochazka is what I would watch. I think Ankalaev deserves a title fight (not for a vacant belt). That fight against Blachowicz was strange, many thought that Ankalaev won. Ankalaev got offended on judges after that fight btw. He even though to retire after that draw, but that was a more like an emotional announcement.

Fans were already used to seeing Pereira sending his opponents down the floor. It so happens Blachowicz is also big and fights him by wrestling not in a standing fight. Maybe the reason why they made Alex won. People think it is robbery but the UFC sees it as an opportunity to make another match. Both Pereira and Anklakaev I think will not win against Prochazka.

They are really making it hard for Pereira to climb if they match him againsts Anklakaev. He may have won Jan's Wrestling but Dagentan wresting is a bit superior.

legendary
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August 03, 2023, 08:33:52 AM
^  205 is in shambles.  I think the UFC was hoping for Pereira to have a great showing in his first match at 205 but it was really a lack luster performance.  Would people really pay to watch him vs Jiri Prochazka?  It's the same situation as Ankalaev.  But between Pereira and Ankalaev, I'd rather see Ankalaev vs Prochazka.  The UFC could prolly make it a co main event of Jones vs Miocic or something.

A think that Ankalaev wrestling skills are much better than Blachowicz and it would be easier for Magomed to submit Pereira. We really dont know how good Pereiras wrestling skills are (because he hasnt faced a good opponent yet), but something tells me that a any man with a name Magomev that is into martial arts can get him to the ground and choke. Maybe this is a created vision that Pereira is only a kickboxer that bother me to objectively evaluate Pereira, but I cant seem him wrestling.

Anklakaev vs Prochazka is what I would watch. I think Ankalaev deserves a title fight (not for a vacant belt). That fight against Blachowicz was strange, many thought that Ankalaev won. Ankalaev got offended on judges after that fight btw. He even though to retire after that draw, but that was a more like an emotional announcement.
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August 03, 2023, 07:18:40 AM
^  205 is in shambles.  I think the UFC was hoping for Pereira to have a great showing in his first match at 205 but it was really a lack luster performance.  Would people really pay to watch him vs Jiri Prochazka?  It's the same situation as Ankalaev.  But between Pereira and Ankalaev, I'd rather see Ankalaev vs Prochazka.  The UFC could prolly make it a co main event of Jones vs Miocic or something.

Here's a replay with Font beating a prospect...

UFC Free Fight:  Font vs Yanes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3qVs53XZRY

Anyway, who among you guys think Sandhagen is a max bet this weekend?  I think he'll be the first guy to KO Font.
legendary
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August 03, 2023, 06:52:48 AM
Glover Texeira VS Jiri Prochazka

Glad that you have reminded me about Jiri Prochazka. I keep on forgetting to post a question here for a long time Cheesy Do you guys know that Jamahal Hill got injured during playing basketball and has relinquished his UFC light heavyweight title ? According to UFC.com he is still a champ, according to wiki belt seems to be vacant. So what now? Who is the real champ (Jiri?)? Who is gonna fight for a belt now? Jiri and Ankalaev, according to position in ranking. But does Ankalaev deserve a chance, since he had draw with Blachovicz and Blachovicz lost his last fight via split decision?
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August 03, 2023, 06:37:22 AM
There are a couple of ways they could spin it into a real thing, but they'd need to attach some special rules to it, to prevent it from getting merged with the title belt. i.e. they could make a rule that you could only win it by KO/TKO/submission, and if the fight is won by decision, the belt gets vacated and UFC fans could vote which next fight will be for the belt - to prevent it being locked in one weight class. Just a thought.

That KO/TKO win is really hard to achieve for sure but for me if the fight is awesome or a level of competition if you remember the Glover Texeira VS Jiri Prochazka fight well even if it is a decision result it is a very entertaining fight they could surely get the belt in 1 class and then it got turn over if a fighter wants one, but they could also give all division a BMF belt of their own, but that would be something and let's just wait if this is getting into another division or not,

Can't disagree. You can tell something is not quite right just by looking at him. I don't think it's just the age thing. There are some rumors that he has some mental issues, and watching some of his interviews you can tell he holds some resentment against UFC/journalists and maybe a whole world.
But maybe changing the environment and moving to a different organisation could work well for him. He could get some easier fights and strangely enough, he could even get a better pay.

You are right just like other UFC fighters that are going to other organization because the level of competition is very different than with the UFC, well, yeah we can not say it is ultimately age or time, there might be something about Tony Ferguson that we likely didn't know and maybe he is mad about it because it could be true and could surely end his career, or rather be something that he don't want everyone to know, but you are right having Ferguson to PFL, Bellator, or One Champion is quite a spectacle to see even if it is not that high of an institution maybe because of the audience Ferguson can accumulate when he goes in those fight organization that Organization could give him a higher pay from it,

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August 03, 2023, 06:33:57 AM
Cory Sandhagen vs Rob Font is a kind of unpredictable fight. It looks like it could end in any manner and whoever hits harder the first may win it. Unlike the fight of Andrade vs Suarez which Suarez might end up submitting Andrade.

I think Cory Sandhagen has an advantage, because Rob Font is a replacement fighter in their fight. Sandhagen had more time to prepare to fight against Nurmagomedov, who withdrew due to injury just couple of weeks before the fight. Its is a catchweight, and previous catchweight fight Font lost. If we look on numbers, then Cory has finished guys, who Font won only by decision or lost to them. Odds also show that Font is a big underdog.
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August 02, 2023, 04:46:01 PM
Actually, this is the 1st time seeing the BMF belt and it was so black you can surely call it "Black Mother Fu_ _ _r" but surely if the UFC can really enlighten us on if they will make the BMF title a thing, can every fighter can go in different weight class to challenge the BMF title holder and as for Kevin Holland he said he wants the belt that if the belt is not in his division be would likely change division to have a fight on who is holding the BMF, but surely as the BMF right now it was 1st for Jorge Masvidal and pass on to Justin Gaethje as it have return back again, so maybe the UFC will make this a thing now,

There are a couple of ways they could spin it into a real thing, but they'd need to attach some special rules to it, to prevent it from getting merged with the title belt. i.e. they could make a rule that you could only win it by KO/TKO/submission, and if the fight is won by decision, the belt gets vacated and UFC fans could vote which next fight will be for the belt - to prevent it being locked in one weight class. Just a thought.

Well, I am looking at his movement now it was surely totally different from the Tony Ferguson we used to know, and love, Tony Ferguson now has a lot of openings and is pretty much slow now, and against Bobby Green, he likely has an age aswell and getting there Bobby Green looks absolutely the same, while Tony Ferguson is just a fossil or just a husk of his old self, pretty much his name might be profitable but given those losing streak the people will eventually get bored and might not watch him anymore,

Can't disagree. You can tell something is not quite right just by looking at him. I don't think it's just the age thing. There are some rumors that he has some mental issues, and watching some of his interviews you can tell he holds some resentment against UFC/journalists and maybe a whole world.
But maybe changing the environment and moving to a different organisation could work well for him. He could get some easier fights and strangely enough, he could even get a better pay.
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August 02, 2023, 04:10:51 PM
The BMF belt will have a short life if Justin gets the title fight, which he should and that's what he's after. So if the BMF is put on the line it'll get unified with the lightweight title. If UFC want it to be a thing, they'll have to come up with some special rules on how it is to be passed on.

Actually, this is the 1st time seeing the BMF belt and it was so black you can surely call it "Black Mother Fu_ _ _r" but surely if the UFC can really enlighten us on if they will make the BMF title a thing, can every fighter can go in different weight class to challenge the BMF title holder and as for Kevin Holland he said he wants the belt that if the belt is not in his division be would likely change division to have a fight on who is holding the BMF, but surely as the BMF right now it was 1st for Jorge Masvidal and pass on to Justin Gaethje as it have return back again, so maybe the UFC will make this a thing now,

As I said, he's past his prime, there's no question about that, but if he still feels like he have a couple more fights in him - why not?
And what people tend to forget that 6 losing streak was to guys from the very top, while his 12-win streak was earned mostly on low/average-rated guys. So looking just at wins/losses record can give you a bit distorted picture.

Well, I am looking at his movement now it was surely totally different from the Tony Ferguson we used to know, and love, Tony Ferguson now has a lot of openings and is pretty much slow now, and against Bobby Green, he likely has an age aswell and getting there Bobby Green looks absolutely the same, while Tony Ferguson is just a fossil or just a husk of his old self, pretty much his name might be profitable but given those losing streak the people will eventually get bored and might not watch him anymore,

Cory Sandhagen vs Rob Font is a kind of unpredictable fight. It looks like it could end in any manner and whoever hits harder the first may win it. Unlike the fight of Andrade vs Suarez which Suarez might end up submitting Andrade.


For me it is not really unpredictable judging from the latest Cory Sandhagen fight if you look closely that is a different Cory Sandhagen and his prime is really showing off from the fight against Marlon "Chito" Vera for me Chito Vega could win this because if it was pure striking then my guy Marlon Vera is the man that is calculating and more technical than Sandhagen, but I was really shocked and amazed at what Sandhagen did to Marlon Vera, because Sandhagen has a different arsenal that he have shown on that fight I was shocked to see Cory Sandhagen pulling some wrestling and submission in his career you can see the dedication and the willingness to evolve just to win so I am really expecting Cory Sandhagen has a giver advantage on this one,

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August 02, 2023, 02:15:15 PM
Cory Sandhagen vs Rob Font is a kind of unpredictable fight. It looks like it could end in any manner and whoever hits harder the first may win it. Unlike the fight of Andrade vs Suarez which Suarez might end up submitting Andrade.

First time hearing someone has 10 fight contract. With UFC bondage deals (contract) 10 fight contract is like slavery.

I think I based that on some interview with a young fighter complaining about UFC forcing him to sign an initial contract of ten fights for some ridiculously low money in a range of $5k per fight. But again, I'm quoting from memory and that was at least over a decade ago, so there's a chance I got it twisted, plus, surely a lot has changed since then.

$5K per fight. Must have been the time of Gracies yet
UFC probably didn't offer Derrick a new contract. This is also what Sonnen said in his podcast which his flying knee and his abs are his last act to make it. If he still couldn't get a call from Dana, we'll be seeing Derrick somewhere lese.
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August 02, 2023, 12:09:55 PM
First time hearing someone has 10 fight contract. With UFC bondage deals (contract) 10 fight contract is like slavery.

I think I based that on some interview with a young fighter complaining about UFC forcing him to sign an initial contract of ten fights for some ridiculously low money in a range of $5k per fight. But again, I'm quoting from memory and that was at least over a decade ago, so there's a chance I got it twisted, plus, surely a lot has changed since then.
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August 02, 2023, 11:58:55 AM

Heavy weights have longer careers in MMA compared to the lighter weight classes as the demands in HW are actually not as hard.  And if you notice many of them are a bit older.  


Well, that is also true. And I think that’s because when fighting in the heavyweight category, age does not compromise a huge part of the skill. We all know that almost all heavyweight fighters are a little slow. So age does not compromise speed because speed is not that much of a great ability for a fighter anywhere at this weight. That’s why I think they can have a longer career.  But that does also mean they generally carry around a bigger chance of getting injured.
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August 02, 2023, 07:53:03 AM
Was it really his last fight on the contract? I know Derrick Lewis in now free agent, but I can't imagine UFC not offering him a new one. As for Tony, I don't know, he still has a big name and could potentially move to other organisation and even get a better money fighting easier fights. But there's no question that his prime years are now gone.
I really looks like his contract is over. UFC either give 3 or 6 fight contracts. If we divide his UFC record to 3 or 6, it would be a round number, which makes he has no more fight. Maybe UFC will offer him sort of a farewell fight, as he said he has lost current mostly due to accidental eye poke (but we have seen the fight and Tony was dominated in every round).
A lot of people still want to see him fight and Lewis obviously still wants to fight under the UFC's banner, so I guess if he doesn't have any medical issues, Dana White and Hunter Campbell could still give him another contract...  I'd expect some announcement in a couple of months.

As for Tony Ferguson, uh man...  I think he should retire.  He isn't the same guy after the beating he got from Justin Gaethje.  That was a solid beating.

Lewis is pretty old at this point. I don’t know if it is going to be a great performance from him after this. I suspect he might decline in terms of success. But I do agree with @tokeweed that a lot of people would still want to see Lewis fight. And of course he’s also going to be interested to fight in the UFC. Because even though a lot of people are saying that that UFC does not be enough money, they are the ones who pay the most. So obviously he’s going to want to stay in the UFC.

It is actually sad to see the turn that the career of Tony Ferguson took. And I also agree that this happened after fight against Justin Gaethje. At this point, it is actually painful to see how he is getting wrecked in the cage. I think he should think about his retirement seriously.


Heavy weights have longer careers in MMA compared to the lighter weight classes as the demands in HW are actually not as hard.  And if you notice many of them are a bit older.  

Anyway, here's a free fight featuring Sandhagen vs Vera.  Sandhagen is prolly my most confident pick of the coming weekend's event.  

UFC Free Fight:  Sandhagen vs Vera
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzt2cwmZSyE

And thanks to jeremypwr, I won 4 mBTC in free bets!  Already made my parlays with them.  Grin

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August 02, 2023, 06:21:48 AM
I am giving credits to Pereira and I had my doubts about him going one division higher after losing from Adesanya, but he proved me wrong.
I think it's time for Tony Ferguson to finally retire after losing so many fights in a row, it is sad to watch him like this and Dana is just milking him for more money.
Derrick Lewis is back with a win and I was sure he was going out similar way like Ferguson, but maybe we are going to see few more good fights from him.

It's really hard to win after a loss especially when you get knocked out by your past opponent because the emotional damage will be the main problem for you to not to focus and be scared to attack in your next fight. Thankfully he handled it well and managed to beat his opponent in the upper weight class and he should be staying there for a while in order to be comfortable until getting a worthy opponent once again. As for Tony Ferguson, he has done a good job to accept that fight but that's not gonna work well just like that, and losing that fight might gonna be considered for him to finally retire for real.
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