Topic: The UFC Info and Prediction Thread - page 130. (Read 100769 times)

As time goes by Kickboxing has several basic rules that have been changed or improved with the aim of keeping each fighter from experiencing bad things or fatal injuries when it really feels impossible to fight.
Not only Kickboxing there are several sports or martial arts which currently have several changes in the basic rules that were previously established.

UFC is a free fighting event with an international level or UFC champions can be said to be world champions because UFC is the only free fighting event that has contracts for the greatest fighters from all over the world and it has rules and regulations which may be different from other events so It no longer surprising if there are several things that we might wonder about like what you said.

Many thought Rodtang defeat was unfair and Superlek full points were when Rodtang fell because he was cornered by Superlek who made an elbow but in reality Rodtang fell because his ankle slipped not because of Superlek elbow.

While I 100% support Tony Ferguson in this fight, I am afraid he is making a wrong move. This man lost his last six fights, he lost against the 2022's Nate Diaz, did he even trained for that fight? There is a very big chance that he will lose against Peddy too and it's shameful for such a legendary fighter to finish a career with 7 loses in a row. I think he shouldn't have taken this fight, no words about match against Oliveira, if anything, this match against Peddy should be his last match.

Maybe the UFC wants to make Paddy a big star like McGregor. But looking at Paddy now I don't think that's possible. Paddy doesn't have the aura of a star yet. Even though he plays McGregor in the UFC, in my opinion it is Sean Omalley who shines more. But for UFC, Sean doesn't have Trashtalk like McGregor, while Paddy does. I think the UFC is confused by this because there hasn't been a star like The Notorius.

Why not? Gamrot has just fought. Oliveira fights next month. If he loses, the timing would be perfect to match him up with Gamrot, as both will have similar time between the fights.


Yeah, I've said the same thing somewhere above. Looks like Gamrot is the most feasible option for a back-up. It has to be someone from the top, Gaethje or Poirier are unlikely to take such offer, Dariush is already scheduled to fight Tsarukyan, which leaves either Gamrot or Chandler.
Chandler is patiently waiting to fight McGregor, but, as that is not happening anytime soon, he could agree to it just to stay active etc, but Gamrot is already there, all he has to do is not let himself go too much and postpone his family time by couple of weeks.

Kickboxing since the time of Van Damme was brutal lol This time around, you can see them hitting their elbow to the jaw but they allow their opponent to clinge preventing them from falling.
Unlike in UFC where one mistake and an elbow hits the jaw the fight is over. Either the fighter will be submitted or punches will rain on him even when he falls on the floor. That's the fight in real life.

Not a fan of Kickboxing after learning Van Damme is not a real kickboxer. Rodtang lost that fight when he clearly was the one doing significant damage. 

For sure no one wants this to happen and after that injury, he will surely have a long-term recovery that could also end up not returning at all but I surely want Fiziev to return for sure Islam Makhachev has to say Fiziev as he has predicted that Rafael Fiziev will not make it into Rank 5 for sure and this has happened for sure there is a reason for this and recently Rafael Fiziev have talked about his injury and it was a torn ACL for sure, and said that he will surely return stronger than ever,


Yes! That was the right thread for the other MMA fighting company we could surely Discuss other fights there but not boxing,

Anyway, Rodtang VS Superlek was so intense that I thought that Rodtang was winning it well the fight could surely go the other way around for sure but even though Superlek is bloodied he was still fierce and it looks like he is not slowing down is why the judges have come to a conclusion that Superlek has won the fight,


Well, I totally agree with you in fact I want Tony Ferguson to retire but because of his stubbornness or maybe he was addicted to fighting he is surely refusing to retire and just like you I am going with Tony Ferguson because I don't like Paddy Pimblett's big shot attitude for sure he deserves a good beating going into the fight,

That's not happening as Oliveira is already matched up to fight Makachev in Dubai at UFC 294.  The event is still around three weeks away.  Maybe Gamrot could be the back up fighter..?  Since he didn't really get any bumps and bruises vs Fiziev.

Here's the Tapology page for 294 in case anyone is curious.

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/events/99416-ufc-294

And we have another event for DCWS is coming 11 hours or so.  Should be good...

Date:  Tuesday, September 26
Main Card (Fight Pass):  8:00pm EST
Venue:  UFC Apex Center, Las Vegas, Nevada
Live Streams:  



Main Card
Welterweight:  Raheam Forest vs Danny Barlow
Heavyweight:  Mario Piazzon vs Alexander Soldatkin
Featherweight: Angel Pacheco vs Danny Silva
Women's Flyweight:  Carli Judice vs Ernesta Kareckaite
Bantamweight:  Vinicius Oliveira vs Victor Hugo Madrigal

I will rephrase a bit my post. It is not really that I want Tony to win (if fact I just really want him to retire already), but I want Paddy to lose Just replace Tony with other fighter and I would cheer him to win. Maybe Paddy isnt a bad guy IRL, but I really dont like his "Im a big star" behaviour without actually having a strong opponent. Dont like that UFC tried to create a huge star from him. In general, his achievements in UFC does not match his king status

Should we move on to next event or it is kinda a filler before real events?

This might just be what you mean https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/mma-info-and-predictions-bellator-ksw-pfl-one-5197906 which is about the MMA talk - PFL, Bellator, KSW, ONE...

Fans must have been outraged since Superlek won a very controversial KO. Rodtang isn't just fighting in kickboxing, he once fought against Demetrious Johnson and was defeated by a rare naked choke. Demetrious Johnson was once the Goat in UFC actually but also left UFC.

Sorry if this is off topic. A few days ago I watched the Rodtang vs Superlek match and I was very excited about the match. There's a lot I want to discuss about ONE Championship, or MMA in general. Can anyone give me a link that discusses MMA in general and not just UFC? A thread as active as this UFC thread? Thank You,

Well, we can surely speculate on what has happened but for sure Rafael Fiziev really is the one who knows what really happened to his injury for sure a great performance in the 1st round was all for Rafael Fiziev, but in Mateusz Gamrot's recent interview he said that it was a plan to injured Fiziev and he likes it slow so for the 1st round he will let his opponent take it, but he will show his trump card in the later on rounds which is for sure I don't really believe, because for sure it was a unlucky injury for Rafael Fiziev, and for sure it is a long wait for Rafael Fiziev to goes back


for sure it was a long rest for Rafael Fiziev and that is because of his injury and how bad it really was, and for sure Rafael Fiziev is the only one who can give a clear explanation of what occurred in the fight and because it is hard to believe Mateusz Gamrot's claims for sure but that has happened for sure and no one can control it, but maybe I was feeling a bit hesitant on what has truly happened but Fiziev is surely be gone for a long time for sure,

I wouldn't be that pessimistic. We don't know for sure how severe Fiziev's injury really is, but I've seen some experts saying he'll likely be out for 9-12 months. Apparently, he had a similar one back in 2019. I think Tom Aspinall's injury was even worse and he came back looking better than ever.
Gamrot's tactic was to step on the gas in rounds 3-5, so it's a shame the fight ended before it really started. But Gamrot managed to take him down twice (counting the end of the 1st round) and proved he's more than capable of exchanging punches with the best in the division.


He called out Oliveira because that's his preferred opponent, but whether he gets that fight and whether Oliveira would take it, that's a big IF.
Dustin & Justin are other possibilities. They recently fought, but so did Gamrot. But I don't think that's likely to happen as Dustin and Gamrot are team mates, and Justin is probably aiming for a title shot.
I've heard some speculation that Gamrot may end up as a backup fighter for Makhachev Vs Oliveira 2, but personally, I doubt that he would sacrifice the post-fight rest and family time to stay in fighting shape for another month.


Only Fiziev knows what really happened to his leg, but, if the injury was indeed inflicted by Gamrot, he will never admit that as that would mean he lost fair and square and not by some unfortunate accident.

It was a bad injury. I don't know exactly how it started, but the kick he threw before that injury was very unlucky. In my opinion, I gave the first round and the rest to Fiziev until he got injured. Takedown defenses are very good, maybe he hurt his foot even while defending there, but that last kick was what brought disaster for him. It also needs to be listened to by Fiziev, how long will it take for him to recover? He is an important fighter in the rankings for the division. It seems to me that it is not an injury that will keep him away, I hope not.

I also like Tony Ferguson to win this as well before he retires but as long as he gets the win he will not stop fighting much he is a stubborn one to stop what he is doing but for sure he is the only one who can surely know his body well but even though he does know it he is still not stopping, but we fans seeing it on the fight for sure he is not in his right mind right now he might need help on this one he might have an addiction with fighting,


There is a lot of Speculation that it could be that hold on the left leg on Fiziev that he was injured but for sure it was the solid kicks that got it worse or maybe it is the start of that injury, we will never know until we likely hear Rafael Fiziev side for sure, and because I also want to hear his side of the story for sure, on how it happens and what is his thought on this matter, because it was not clear on what part does the injury 1st occur

For sure I want to see El Cucuy win this one he really needs a win but please make this his last because Tony Ferguson is not a match against a higher opponent in the time of his career he is not in his prime anymore for sure if he wins this then Patty The Fastfood Pimblett will be put to shame it will be upset for Pimblett as for sure he will be the favorite to win in this fight, and pretty much I would bet for Paddy Pimblett as well but I would like for Tony Fergusson winning this,


For me, after the Paddy Pimblett fight, I really don't want to see him anymore, but to see him get hurt even further it was enough brutal beating for the Legendary El Cucuy I really think his fans will appreciate it and will understand at the same time Tony Ferguson is not on his prime anymore and for sure all fighters getting into their 40's will likely have the same effect as he does,


This is humiliating to see Israel Adesanya for sure still hasn't moved on with that loss, for sure he is thinking about why he couldn't do a thing against Strickland's defense for sure Alex Pereira has somewhat managed to defeat Strickland but he has a hard time against him, well, I think those are what may be getting in his mind right now for sure there are many questions in his head he likes answers for sure the Difference with the Pereira fight this time he might never come back again,

UFC Fight Night: Dawson vs. Green



Date: October 7, 2023
Main Card: SUN, OCT 8 / 2:00 AM GMT+3
Prelims: SAT, OCT 7 / 11:00 PM GMT+3

Venue: UFC Apex

Main card (ESPN+)
Lightweight: Grant Dawson vs. Bobby Green            
Middleweight: Joe Pyfer vs. Abdul Razak Alhassan            
Welterweight: Alex Morono vs. Joaquin Buckley            
Lightweight: Drew Dober vs. Ricky Glenn            
Light Heavyweight: Philipe Lins vs. Ion Cuțelaba            
Featherweight: Alexander Hernandez vs. Bill Algeo

Preliminary card (ESPN / ESPN+)
Women's Strawweight: Karolina Kowalkiewicz vs. Diana Belbiţă            
Bantamweight: Chris Gutiérrez vs. Montel Jackson            
Bantamweight: Aori Qileng vs. Johnny Muñoz Jr.            
Flyweight: Nate Maness vs. Mateus Mendonça            
Women's Strawweight: Kanako Murata vs. Vanessa Demopoulos   

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_Fight_Night:_Dawson_vs._Green

There were comments I've read that this is how the knee injury started.
Gamrot is planning to fight Charles Oliveira as he said. Given that Dustin and Gaethje recently fought, I think Dana will give him that fight with Charles and then Mackhaev if he wins. Straight up to a title shot.


Unfortunately, Tony is not what he used to be. Meaning Tony is just there to give Paddy a boost. UFC is just shameless in their matchmaking.

Fiz had R1 even though he really didn't throw a lot imho.  And remember it's a 5 round match.  His game plan was prolly to take it easy in the first couple of rounds before going for it beyond R3.  So don't know about Gamrot would still win it.  I mean how sure can anybody be..?

As for the knee, it was prolly a problem he already had during training.  He should have pulled out if his team knew of the injury imo.

Here's the post fight presser.

UFC Fight Night 228:  Post Fight Press Conference
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FO7vxX2s0Y

And here are the results.

UFC Fight Night 228:  Results

Lightweight:  Mateusz Gamrot def Rafael Fiziev TKO (knee injury)
Featherweight:  Bryce Mitchell def Dan Ige Decision (unanimous) (30–27, 29–28, 29–28)
Women's Strawweight:  Marina Rodriguez def Michelle Waterson-Gomez   TKO (punches)
Welterweight:  Bryan Battle def AJ Fletcher Submission (rear-naked choke)
Featherweight:  Charles Jourdain def Ricardo Ramos Submission (guillotine choke)
Bantamweight:  Miles Johns def Dan Argueta Decision (unanimous) (30–27, 30–27, 29–28)
Welterweight:  Tim Means def André Fialho   TKO (punches)
Middleweight:  Cody Brundage def Jacob Malkoun   DQ (illegal elbow)
Heavyweight:  Mohammed Usman def Jake Collier Decision (unanimous) (30–27, 29–28, 29–28)
Women's Strawweight:  Mizuki Inoue def Hannah Goldy Decision (unanimous) (29–28, 29–28, 29–28)
Women's Bantamweight:  Montserrat Rendon def Tamires Vidal Decision (split) (29–28, 28–29, 28-28)

Sooner or later this has to happe:

Ex-UFC champ Israel Adesanya pleads guilty to drunk driving.

With all those parties he had, and a small stand of alcohol at home, with "I am a star" behaviour it was a matter of time when Izzy would get into troubles. 0.87 ‰ is not just a glass of wine during dinner, it is around 3-4 beers for a man of his weight (if we take a maxim of middleweight 185lb, but he definitely in off-season shape right now, so it is more beer).

I agree with you. It's time for Ferguson to retire. I think a match against Oliveira or Dariush should be his last match. This means that Oliveira and Dariush are two competitive fighters who are on par with Ferguson in his prime. It is very unpleasant to see Ferguson having to face opponents just to increase their ranking.