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Even if I do think that Charles Oliviera does win by TKO I just cannot think Islam Makhachev is being beaten by Oliviera by submission.

Someone mentioned above, It's difficult to believe Charles Olivera is so proficient at the ground game when he has tapped out 8 times in his career?

If it is a ground-heavy fight, it is going to be a win for Islam Makhachev. There is also a possibility that he will want to take the fight to the ground as well. However, the problem is I don't think his takedown is as effective and unexpected as Khabib's. There is a possibility that Charles Oliviera will try to read Makhachev and expect the takedown, and will attempt to defend it. The problem is if Makhachev can make Oliviera carry his(makhachev's) weight when the fight is on the ground Oliviera will get tired quickly. So I think Oliviera will try to keep fighting and standing up.

Odd's are also supporting Islam Makhachev 

Stake odds right now are 2.49 for Oliveira and 1.54 for Makhachev, maybe because of Khabib Nurmagomedov's legacy that they tend to compare Islam Makhachev to the likes of Khabib Nurmagomedov, I know that these are two different individuals, but comparing their ground game but I think they had different technique, although same Combat Sambo technique and Dagestan wrestling, and for me, I am really torn in deciding who's going to win here I like both fighters, and they have potential in winning, I tend to go into fighters what I think will make Charles Oliveira getting a difficult time with the ground game, Oliveira in stand-up Makhachev on the ground, but surely Oliveira is training his wrestling and upped his takedown defenses, but for me, Islam Makhachev ground game is like a boa constrictor, or you will be in deep waters when you plunge into him Charles Oliveira will surely drown,


Well, for me Petr Yan should be careful with the reach advantage of the Pink Poodle and that eye-poking finger of his will surely ruin all of what you see, for me, Petr Yan has a great fight IQ, but Sean O'Malley will do anything in his powers just to win the fight even though playing dirty tricks you can guarantee that, so Petr Yan will need to be very extra careful, with the Pink Poodle,

Same...  I'm back and forth between them.  I kinda felt like it's Oliveira a week ago then it was Makhachev when I made my picks for the Multi Master.  Lol.  The thing is, yeah Makhachev hasn't fought an elite grappler before like Oliveira but then again watch Makhachev's last three matches.  He def improved his wrestling.  He's like getting better than Khabib or at least he's looking like he's getting better. 

As a pick I'll take Makhachev but if Oliveira's line goes over 3, I'll take him as a bet.  So it either goes money piles in on Oliveira, I take me some Makhachev hopefully around 1.60 or the money piles in on Makhachev then I take Oliveira if it goes over 3.00.

I still cant get out of my head the moment, when Khabib gave Makhachev a hint - to put leg on the head of Hooker, to make that kimura more tight. Start making kimura from that position was kinda strange. Without that kint, Makhachev would still do that move, but would have lost more energy and Hooker had chances to sneak out. I mean that leg was such an obvious more to make tight kimura, but Makhachev needed a hint. Some might say that he would have done it later by himself, or was confused or nervous. But a fighter of that level should do that automatically with eyes closed. That is why I think Oliveira will catch him with some nasty lock.

Good luck with your bet mate. I just believe that Sean O'Malley is not the hype people thought he is. But I really respect his bravery to take this fight with Yan, a huge step up from his previous level of opponents. And I also believe that Petr Yan is still the best bantamweight in the UFC right now and he deserves another title shot against the winner of TJ Dillashaw and Aljamain Sterling.  

And by the way, this fight is not scheduled for tomorrow. Fight schedule is on Sun, Oct 23 / 2:00 AM CST. Don't miss it. And watch Yan smesh O'Malley.

Well now UFC 280 will happen in this week, I would bet for many fighters in this fight since there's few underdog which I think can pull an upset.

My pick is Oliveira, Dillashaw, Dariush, Muhammad, and Oezdemir, they're actually have higher rank, experienced and aren't old yet, but they're become underdog in their fight. I think the fight between Yan and O'Malley is not make convince if O'Malley can beat Yan since O'Malley have been knocked out by Marlon Vera which is his big fight. Perhaps at least 2 of my bet will win.

The stat is less than Sean "sugar" O Malley which I think is difficult for to him win tomorrow, other than that, his posture is smaller when compared to Malley where quite hard to hit his fist. besides that, his opponent can easy to reach his head when far from him. So, I bet for Malley for bantamweight.

Bantamweight: Petr Yan vs. Sean O’Malley

That’s the only fight I really care about or will watch. I’m really curious how it’s going to go. Yan looks like the better and stronger fighter, but when you watch his fights he doesn’t seem to have real knock out power when he lands good shots. Sean is the opposite. He doesn’t look like he could punch his way out of a wet paper bag, but when you watch him fight he knocks people out clean regularly. This is probably why they say Yan has fought much better opponents. I’m very curious how this is going to go.

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Big fight weekend is coming and I already made my early predictions, but this is one event I am waiting to see, and not just main event Oliveira vs Makhachev.
Aljamain Sterling and Petr Yan are on the same card again but they are not fighting each other this time, one Nurmagomedov is here, but not Khabib, so even prelims are great to watch.

Woohoo, I think I am going to follow that. But again, it's not because it's your choice, just to be clear.  We just had the same pick at the same time. 
I am an underdog fan but this is different. Makhachev is an underdog from the fans' perspective or whatever group I joined, and not from the bookies.
If I will have changes in the line it will be for the lower part of the card.
I have not yet decided on my multi-master challenge. I am checking out other fighters, for now.

^  As I've already said, yeah it's gonna be exactly that.  'Why isn't the line skewed towards Makhachev?'.  But then again after the event we could be saying 'wtf were we expecting?  Of course Makhachev wins.'.  Lol.  From a Multi Master perspective I'm picking Makhachev.  But with the event held at Abu Dhabi, Khabib's contingent could get huge backing over there as they're huge Khabib fans.  They'll prolly be betting heavy on Makhachev and cause the line to move last minute, making Oliveira's line go way up in value.  Anything close to and over 3.00 would be tempting.

Anyway here's the Multi Master.  Good luck.

UFC 280 - Multi Master Challenge
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-280-multi-master-challenge-saturday-5417455

Have you guys seen odds for Makhachev vs Oliveira fight ? I find it strange, that bookies thought that Oliveira is an underdog with almost 2.5 odd (1.5 for Makhachev).

My two cents.

Oliveira is almost identically dangerous in striking and on the ground, he likes to put pressure. He has over 1000+ techniques how to sub. Makhachev works as number 2, likes to counter. Yes he get punched rarely, but if he get punched well, he looses (his only loss in UFC for example). Compared to Oliveira, who recovers heavy punches on the back. Makhachev technique - go single or double leg, ground and pound or try to kimura or triangle. Oliveira has a lot of more techniques. However, I think Makhachev has more stamina. But question, will it help against Muay Thai aggression and black belt in BJJ ? Olivera is so expert in BJJ, that he uses only hands and legs; he does not even use help of his head to control his opponent. Everyone knows that Makhachev is an expert in wrestling, like Khabib. But check Khabib vs RDA fight. Khabib did not do much against RDA on the ground, and as soon as RDA legs were close to Khabibs head, Khabib steps back and continue fight in stance. Makhachev is not Khabib, he did not put pressure all the fight.

Compare both fighters opponents. Olivera has finished every single top5 fighter (except Makhachev). Makhachevs best opponent was top10 Tsarukyan, who he won by decision. I'd bet on Olivera.

I think Oliveira is going to win, by TKO or sub.

Few more days before the much-awaited UFC 280. This is probably the most stacked event in UFC history. Great matches that are equal or nearly equal to each other. Makhachev is on a 10-fight win streak but it is not on the same level as Oliveira's opponents.

I have my bet already for Petr Yan to crucify this brave Pink Poodle. Unlike his previous fight where his cornermen were denied US visas and Yan was forced to look for new cornermen in the 11th minute. I expect Petr Yan to be back, fully pumped and loaded for this event. 

Don't forget to join the prediction contest of @jeremypwr at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61138066.

I am so pumped to see Oliveira vs Makhachev fight. Best combat sambo vs best bjj in UFC. We have seen such confrontation previously in Strikeforce between Fedor Emelianenko (sambo) and Fabricio Werdum (BJJ). We could have seen this style confrontation in UFC, but this fight has failed 4 times (Nurmagomedov vs Fergusson). Now we have Oliveira vs Makhachev. Notification, 11 win streak fighter (Oliveira) is facing 10 win streak fighter (Makhachev). How is that guys ? This is so rare for UFC.

The Young Khabib Muhammad Mokaev really is drowning his opponent in deep waters and he knows where to position himself like Khabib and Makhachev that combat sambo and Dagestan Wrestling is really something that his opponent will need to take care of, this could continue and this kid will surely soar in high hopes for the title on the UFC,

There are many Russian fighters in this event that surely can give us the entertainment we deserve, now of them is Magomed Mustafaev the one that defeats Ion Cutelaba with an early stoppage, Abubakar Nurmagomedov not so much but I think he can take on his opponent a Russian as well Gadzhi Omargadzhiev, and take the win as well,


Dagestan Wrestling is superior Wrestling in my opinion so yes, Makhachev got the edge, but if his not careful with Oliveira's unorthodox of fighting he will be surprised for sure, Charles Oliveira has a tendency to just move with the flow and pretty much has a high IQ in making things his way that is why there are still many that support him, the previous champion is really that good that is why Islam Makhachev would need to double his defense and expect the unexpected, but for me I am still going with Islam Makhachev,

I am just waiting for this and have put some bet on Makhachev, but I don't expect too much because Oliveira has the spirit to bring back his UFC lightweight title, his weight has met now, and Makhachev must be careful with his ambition, Makhachev should be able to dodge Jiu Jitsu style and his grumble, and I really sure this fight is entertained for us, and many are happy if Makhachev win.

It would be fair to say that Islam Makhachev has a better ground game. People are saying that Charles Olivia has a better game than Islam when it comes to the ground game. The only problem I see with Charles Olivia's career is that he has just tapped too many times into submissions during his career. There have probably been at least 8 times in his career that he has tapped into submissions. There is no way that a fighter who has tapped so many times can be any good at the ground game. It seems that Makhachev is going to have the upper hand in the ground game, according to my prediction. But when it comes to striking, both fighters are going to have no advantage over one another.

^ Mokaev is also a young prospect in MMA with good wrestling. Very aggressive in mixing his style and not afraid to expose himself to the risk. Dana would love him to be part of his top dogs, he must have consider Mokaev as a new talent. Dana had been exploring for new talents, he even partnered with the Ultimate Slap Fighting.

Charles,  Dillashaw and Suga.

edit: I have doubts for Charles though. 

Charles Oliveira could be at a disadvantage with Islam Makhachev, but his determination of Oliveira and going to the length to train wrestling is really assuring that he surely got a plan installed for Makhachev and I really want to see that, I really don't want to see a one-sided fight that is why I would like to see Charles Oliveira get on with it with Islam Makhachev, but I like Makhachev to be victorious in their fight, but I am still not sure who's really going to win,


It was a jam-packed event and If I could get a bet on every one of them, I think 2 to 3 fights were the ones that I don't like, but most of it was a good one, for me, I will be taking a great meal and snack and a big gulp just for this event when I watch it, getting a better view as well we can not get this good of an event, a better match up is surely the main event for me I really can't say who's really going to win Makhachev is likely dominant on the ground, but Oliveira is a smart one that could plan a better idea in winning against Islam,

Stacked!  I love all the match ups except for just a couple of fights.  That's how good it is...  Excited to see Mokaev back in the cage again.  But I feel for Malcom Gordon tho.  Why do the match makers have to do him like that?    He is dead in this match.

The main card is a must watch from start to finish.  All the match ups are good and some of those underdogs could steal the W.  Oliviera, Dariush and Dillashaw could make it too close for comfort for Makhachev, Gamrot and Sterling bettors.

Anyway here's the countdown vid.  Enjoy!

UFC 280:  Countdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrBKzNkxpsI