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Actually, after further thinking and what all of the UFC has been saying I surely dug deep and point out that all of this might actually be stage or planned by the UFC, they have done this because the Khamzat Chimaev VS Nate Diaz fight is actually not getting much pay preview because people don't want to see an iconic legend that is Nate Diaz be pummelled by a rising star guys that is Chimaev, so they have actually get Chimaev work up a plan to switch the fights because even though they have said that there will be an investigation on what has happened on UFC 279, there should be results now, but there is no given fine to the fighters, no punishment what so ever so this is truly been stage by the UFC, and I truly believe it now,


I like Marlon Vera more than Song Yadong and that fight was really super close, that is why the judges have seen that Yadong won it but I think Marlon Vera has the edge in the later rounds because Marlon Vera would surely go slow on the 1st round he kind of feeling his opponent 1st because edging on him his pull potential but surely I have said that Yadong defeated Vera because of the result but this fight experience for Yadong is surely great for him to learn with his mistakes, that is why I like Song Yadong,

Yeah, that's the route they'll take him. He's already had people within the UFC claiming that, so they'll just run with it. UFC will end up doing numbers since everyone tunes in to see him lose, but if he continues winning he basically becomes the new cash cow of the UFC. What would be a brilliant move, is if they brought Conor back to fight Chimaev. It's the ultimate fight, at least in terms of business. Dana gets record breaking pay per views, the fans get a finish, and I imagine Chimaev tries to show off a little bit, and fights Conor on the feet for a while, which could potentially be his downfall. Obviously, that would mean Chimaev cuts, and makes weight of course. Conor is moving on up though, so could be the fight to make in the near future.

It's better than giving Conor a title shot, that's for sure. Even though, Conor should probably be fighting lower ranked opponents when he does return.

I think Chimaev is going to be the new Bad Boy of the UFC, and this always makes a good fights and storied behind them.
They could try to find next guy to confront him in the same way like they did with Connor McGregor and maybe more Michael Bisping.
Many people hated Bisping while he was fighting and they though he was an asshole, but now more people respect him for fighting with one eye.

He did win with some KO's but Sandhagen never lost a fight in his carrier with KO.
His last two losses came from top fighters like Yan and    T.J. Dillashaw, and I think they are both better than Song.a

^  He"s training for it for sure but now I'm not a fighter but training and getting to experience the real thing are two different things.  Sandhagen has actually fought for 5 rounds vs Dillashaw and Yan.  Two tough dudes.  Now imagine if Song were to fight Dillashaw and Yan back to back for 5 rounds.  We have yet to see it for Song.  That would be my main concern if I had money riding on him.

And those two losses shouldn't automatically judged as 'Sandhagen sucks.'.  They were high level match ups and a step up for Sandhagen.  Fighting Song is a notch down imho...  Could be wrong tho as Song could KO anybody at any given day.

I assume Song has been training for five rounders, at least I'd open that is the case. However, honestly the real bet here to make is probably over 2.5 or 3.5 rounds. I think that's plausible, without putting someone down to win. Although, you feel that if it does go beyond 2 or 3 rounds Sandhagen will start to take over. I think for the first round we'll see Cory take his time, and just feel out the situation, whereas Song might be going a little too quick, and looking for that finish.

Although, like I said at first usually fighters do drill for five rounders, and what that might mean is Song actually doesn't put enough output out there since he's too concerned about gassing, and therefore Cory could actually steal the early rounds, and that would put him in the pole position to win the rest of the fight.

I think it's a interesting match up, but the more I look at it, the more I favour Cory.

Song Yadong def didn't win vs Marlon Vera.  Watch the match again.  No way that was a unanimous decision for Song Yadong..  I think he even admitted to it after the event.

Marlon Vera vs Song Yadong
https://www.mma-core.com/videos/Song_Yadong_vs_Marlon_Vera_Full_Fight_UFC_on_ESPN_8_Part_1/10353007

But yeah I'm just saying it won't be as easy as some folks think for Song.  Sandhagen is durable, has more tools in his arsenal and he's been in 5 rounders vs two tough opponents.  Song could be like a fish out of water if the fight goes deep into R4 and R5...  Just my first impression of the match up.

I have a feeling nothing will really come of it, it'll probably be a slight warning without any real major repercussions. I mean the fact that he wasn't punished for the weight issues was something to talk about. Apparently it was under the doctors recommendation, and his coach I believe claimed in an interview done by the UFC, that he was either passing out or nearly passing out. Obviously, somewhat paraphrasing there.

If that's true, he wouldn't have been sanctioned to fight. So, I do think they're making excuses a bit, and the way it panned out it was almost like it was planned. I'm not going to go down the route of excusing them of that, but it worked out almost perfectly, and within record time too. Usually, you don't get several fighters to agree to an opponent change so quickly.

The only reason there was a change in the scheduled event is because Khamzat Chimaev missed weight and then the UFC took the Kevin Holland altercation as an opportunity to make that fight. Altercations in the back is nothing new and we had plenty of them in the past and these were built by the UFC if a match up is made to build a storyline to sell more tickets. The crowd was against him and hence he flipped the bird .

I also liked Cory Sandhagen and I am not a fan of Song Yadong but so I am just giving what I think of what may happen with this main event, and in actuality, I give my predictions on how Cory Sandhagen will win, and how Yadong will also win, but because of Song Yadong striking power I am siding with him, but it is still OK that we get a different opinion, as I have said Sandhagen can will this if the fight go the distance, and because Song Yadong is not a 5 rounder, and if you have seen his records most of his losses were from a decision match, and Sandhagen is good at feints if Song Yadong can be trick by those feints then its could surely go the distance, I will surely give my predictions for this fight aswell,


Well, an investigation is still in the process until not proven guilty maybe Chimaev will escape this with just light punishment, although Khabib and his group have said they're sorry and were fine because of what they did, they still do something like this, and with Khabib Nurmagomedov's whole team that is all Muslim, I really don't want to say bad things about the Muslim religion, and I also have Muslim friends but if he could just talk to Chimaev on what happen or instead of judging him I think as a Muslim brother he surely know how to approach Khamzat Chimaev, he wasn't on the event for him to speak something like that, and let say that missed weight was all planned but because of that we have seen a good fight that is Nate Diaz VS Tony Ferguson, let's not look for only negative on what happened but the positive side as well,

I think Chimaev got into the altercation with Holland due to religion too. Some Muslims got offended when asked or told to remove their beards. So it was said the altercation later spread as the team of Nate Diaz was later dragged into it.

But maybe the drama was faked to cover up Chimaev's overweight. Chimaev and Holland IIRC touched gloves before the bell sounded and both were on good terms right after the stoppage. I don't think Nate Diaz would've faced a too much overweight Chimaev. And Nate can probably get out of his UFC contract without a fight since he was able to make his obligations properly.

The thing is the UFC didn't punish him, they basically rejigged the whole event, almost like it was planned, for one fighter missing weight. That never happens, it either goes ahead because the opposite fighter agrees too, while taking the majority of the purse or it gets cancelled. Of course, it was the main event, and therefore there's a little more riding on it, but the event would've been as good without Chimaev on there to be honest. Obviously, Diaz would've got the short stick, but they might've been able to get another fighter on very short notice.

However, for the drama; I actually think in a few months time people would've forgotten about it, and therefore Chimaev ultimately benefits. He's got the community inside MMA talking about him, as well as the other communities outside of MMA, but still in the combat sports scope.

So, he's building fans or he's temporaily getting people to want to watch him lose, and therefore directly influencing the UFC's profits, and that'll help him in his career.

Khabib, Conor and other guys paid fines for that drama they've made (before the fight (bus attack) and after (eagle fly)). Dont know much about Conor, but Khabib apologised after that on public. He has lost temper, because people (Dillon and Co) hurt his religion and family. What Chimaev did ? Chimaev nearly managed to disrupted the event because he has got offended because he was called not a real gangster? And instead of apologising, smiled, showed middle fingers and drives smiling in his G wagon in Stockholm. What a douchebag.

I must be in the minority since I haven't really been all that impressed with Song Yadong, while Sandhagen has impressed me throughout his career. Obviously, I'm a bit of a Sandhagen fan, so there's a somewhat bias there.

I do think SandHagen will win this fight, and that's a decision or a knockout. I'd like to see some of those flying knees that we haven't really seen a whole lot of recently. I'm just looking forward to seeing Sandhagen back in the octagon. I'm not liking the odds though, I was hoping he would be given slightly better odds than he has been given.

I'll get my predictions out soon.

Many YouTubers now are saying that Khamzat Chimaev has become from hero to villain, although Kevin Holland was the one who started it, Khabib Nurmagomedov has said that as a Muslim he should not do such things and Criticize Khamzat Chimaev's team because they are not 1 Muslim in it, but does he realizes what he did during UFC 229 after the fight with Conor McGregor he goes over the cage and goes to Dillon Danis  McGregor's Jui Jitsu Coach, and goes right into Dillon Danis, while his other teammates go for Conor McGregor, well I am a fan of Khabib and now Khamzat, and I really like their styles but for Khabib saying such things I really think he did the same, back on UFC 229, but after the fight, while Khamzat after the fight doesn't have any bad feeling towards Kevin Holland anymore and salutes him for taking the fight, well just saying, but I still love Khabib Nurmagomedov no matter what,


Well, for me anything is possible I may have favored Song Yadong on this but still, there is still a chance for Cory Sandhagen to win here if he utilized more to his advantage keeping the fight the distance because if the fight goes the distance that will be Song Yadong's weakness will show, all of his lost was via Decision and fairly enough he would not last on a long round fight, and the only 5 round fight he gets was versus Renat Ondar back in his WLF World Championship, and he lost by decision, so this could fairly favor for Cory Sandhagen if the fight goes the distance, but for me, I would go with Song Yadong here I think his team already know about this problem and I think Song Yadong is also training for this fight aswell,

I don't like this low odds on Sandhagen to win, even if I think he is favorite there is no such big gap between him and Yadong Song.
Sandhagen maybe have slight reach advantage but he lost his last two fights in UFC against great opponents, and Yadong is on great run with three wins and two of them with KO.
I think there is high chance this fight is going to distance with all five rounds, and win can go both sides.

I would say that mostly elder and reputed people from Dagestan and Chechnya are not fond of Chimaev behaviour. That is not what true Muslim should behave. Btw in Islam religion is even forbidden to fight (even though we have lots of fighters that follow Islam).

Khabib criticizes Chimaev’s failed weight cut at UFC 279: ‘There are no Muslims around him’. Here is a good article.

In Russian we have a quotation "Overcome the fire, water and copper pipes". This means to overcoming life difficulties. Fire and water symbolizes overcoming hard time, surviving hunger, diseases and etc. Copper pipes symbolizes fanfare - fame, popularity. Chimaev had hard childhood and had to migrate as a refugee to Sweden. That are his fire and water. But he has failed at cooper pipes.

I know that Cory Sandhagen got some fight IQ, but what if he fights a similar fighter with the same fight IQ, I am not underestimating Sandhagen, in actuality I have bet for him at some point, but it all goes away, and in fact, I truly believe that he won against TJ Dillashaw, but against Petr Yan that is a different story, and for me Song Yadong also have that fight IQ, he defeated Marlon Vera, and now Marlon Moraes and I think he has the punching power that Sandhagen can not withstand,

Updated on the UFC 279 fiasco, here is some Footage on what is happening backstage, Li Jingliang said that he was backstage when the altercation happen he said that Khamzat Chimaev was just friendly and saying hi to other he said hi to Jingliang, and then when Kevin Holland turn comes Kevin Holland think it was not a positive gesture, so he pushed Chimaev and then he said that Chimaev didn't give a shit at 1st, then Holland when out with D Rod, for the press conference, but when Holland comes back Chimaev then kick Holland then the brawl started that is when The Leech hold on to Chimaev and said it is not time, the video is not really full and we can not see that Jingliang has calm down Chimaev, Then Diaz and his group when in to throw bottle water at Chimaev,

Meanwhile, Robert Whittaker said that when Chimaev said that he wants to train with Robert Whittaker, Whittaker replied absolutely and then can surely hunt some bad guys together,

True but how hard a fighter hits is just one part of the equation.  There's also other stuff like fight IQ, strength of schedule, experience, etc.. etc.  And Sandhagen is a pretty good fighter.  Another thing is remember, this is for 5 rounds.  I don't think Song Yadong has fought 5 rounds before.  And sure he def has a chance to win it but I think the current line for both fighters is fair.

Anyway, here's the Multi Master.

UFC Fight Night 210 - Multi Master
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sportsbetio-ufc-fight-night-210-multi-master-challenge-saturday-5413434

I think deep inside Chimaev is hurting from all the booing and cursing from the fans, maybe he really feel bad about what he did, but can not express sorry because he has already done it, well many are seeing Chimaev as the villain here, for causing fiasco on UFC 179 and the weigh-in missed and because of that my latest news that I have heard I think many Russian fighters doesn't really like what he has done, and because of what happened in the UFC 279 incident the NSAC will investigate and if proven that Khamzat Chimaev is responsible for that Fiasco Chimaev could be facing possible discipline, he might get suspended, or his fighter license could get revoked


After watching the rematch of Li Jingliang vs Daniel Rodriguez and Li Jingliang is in a good position and landing more volume I think he has landed more effective strikes than Daniel Rodriguez, ad when the 2nd round starts LI Jingliang has got more counterpunches and Jingliang has got a takedown aswell, for me the judges really aren't watching the fight, and putting their attention, for me the 1st and 2nd round are for Li Jingliang while the 3rd round is for Rodriguez well the judges might only see the last round, but yeah 2 rounds really goes to Jingliang, so technically he won that right,

I rewatched the leech fight, because on the night I also thought it was his fight. However, watching it the second time has convinced that those judges must have not been watching the same fight. To not give him the second round is almost fascicle. I know there's a saying to not leave it to the judges since they don't get replays, and they see it from a different angle, but that's just ridiculous.

Also, some of may remember Elias Theodorou, he died two days ago from cancer. He was in his early thirties I believe, so a shocking loss to the MMA community. Seemed a real nice guy, and a good fighter too.