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July 08, 2022, 06:55:39 AM
Well, update on Pedro Munhoz's eye poke inciden

I think I have posted 3 or 4 times in this topic during last years - UFC must change their gloves or made them close to Pride gloves. I think every quarter someone gets accidentally poked. UFC knows their issue with gloves, Dana knows there is an issue with gloves. They always replay with "it was an accident, no one wanted to do that on purpose", but fights keep being spoiled.

I dont understand why UFC let go this issue so easily or try to act there is nothing worth taking action in that case. Maybe they are bounded with contracts, rules, manufacturers, I dont know what else. But Dana and owners would piss with fire if some of their major fights (for example return of McGregor) would be spoiled due to eye poking.
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July 08, 2022, 04:10:09 AM
I wouldn't be so sure about that.
If you watched his last fight with Cannonier and fights before that, you could see that he made massive improvements on ground game.
He has big advantage there, he is well rounded everywhere, and he fights better against fighters that attack like Pereiera.
I can't recall it hitting the ground against Cannonier? Except for once at the end of the round? I don't know, I've slept since then Tongue. I know Izzy has fantastic takedown defense, he has had that for a while. The only time I recall him being taken down properly recently was against Jan, who dominated, but understandably so considering the weight advantage.

Yeah, Izzy is probably one of the best counter punches around, and Alex might just fall into that trap. Alex doesn't have fantastic head movement or ways of avoiding getting hit himself, so I expect Izzy basically to have free shots. I don't see Alex winning via points, that's for sure. He'll either get the knockout, lose on points or get knocked out himself.

I will be supporting Izzy, I'm just excited that he'll at least be challenged, due to the history of the two fighters. I want to see Izzy challenged, in an exciting way rather than the usual domination of points fighting.
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July 08, 2022, 01:56:57 AM

Pereira is nothing to Adesanya this time. He just talk so much but when they are going to be on the stage Adesanya will put an end to this guy. The reason why Pereira seem to be so relax in the press conference is because he doesn't understand what Israel is saying.

Its true he could be making a good attention and Dana would love something like this because its his business of course. It will be interesting how the odds will be if the 2 fight.
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July 08, 2022, 01:05:26 AM


Adesanya def could out point Pereira but Adesanya isn't 100% unhittable.  Just one touch from that guy in those 4 ounce gloves, Adesanya sleeps.  He was slept by Pereira with the bigger gloves they use in kickboxing.  So there's prolly some doubt in Adesanya's mind if he can really beat this guy as he was already between twice by Pereira.  


If Israel Adesanya's pacing is changing here then Alex Pereira can not read him, this is my take Alex Pereira can memories and download his opponent's movements, and from that, he can surely throw his killer left hook that makes Adesanya and Strickland feel the canvas, if Israel Adesanya could make his movement unreadable then he can make Pereira miserable in their fight, or unpredictable, well you can surely say that Israel Adesanya sometimes is unpredictable so I think Israel Adesanya can still have the advantage when he face Pereira for the 3rd time, and this time through the combat sports that Adesanya dominates,


I wouldn't be so sure about that.
If you watched his last fight with Cannonier and fights before that, you could see that he made massive improvements on ground game.
He has big advantage there, he is well rounded everywhere, and he fights better against fighters that attack like Pereiera.

Yup! it is certain that Adesanya will not result in his fight into the ground, he is the style bender and he got his own style in winning a fight, I think he is ready for Pereira, it is just his very conscience because of what happened to their fight last time, Pereira is his nightmare and I think it was Pereira the reason he has entered into MMA, and exited Kickboxing,



Well, update on Pedro Munhoz's eye poke incident, well because there are a lot of people saying that Pedro Munhoz is finding ta way to get out of his situation by fighting Sean O'Malley I really think that it is out of Character for Pedro Munhoz to be quitting from a fight and this is the 1st time he did this, after the fight, Pedro Munhoz was backlashed by critics that he is quieter while some YouTubers was saying that it was the punch of Sean O'Malley that hurt the eye of Pedro Munhoz, but in my opinion, the medical reports never lie, that this was an eye poke it was the right eye scratch to his cornea, I know there may be fans of Sean O'Malley here we can debate about this, and I think it was an eye poke, and right now because of that Pedro Munhoz is in a bad condition right now, and they never know when that eye would heal,

Here is O'Malley's tweet that it was a punch, not a poke and they are saying it was the left eye but Munhoz is saying it was a poke on the right eye,

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July 07, 2022, 05:29:15 PM
Against Pereira, I fear for Adesanya tbh.  The Pereira guy has serious powerrr in those hands.  But yeah...  It isn't just about Pereira to pressure Adesanya into going all out vs him.  I mean after how Adesanya's last match turned out, he'll def be pressured to perform.  And he could get starched.
Don't be scared about him, you are not going into cage with him  Cheesy
This could be hardest fight for Adesanya but mostly mentally because I think he improved a lot since he lost fights from Pereira in kickboxing.
He is in great form and both of them have same reach without advantage, but I think he is better skilled to fight all five rounds.

I don't think Izzy will take him to the ground, it's not his preferred place to be, and quite frankly he'll be confident in his abilities.
I wouldn't be so sure about that.
If you watched his last fight with Cannonier and fights before that, you could see that he made massive improvements on ground game.
He has big advantage there, he is well rounded everywhere, and he fights better against fighters that attack like Pereiera.
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July 07, 2022, 01:29:39 PM

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Against Pereira, I fear for Adesanya tbh.  The Pereira guy has serious powerrr in those hands.  But yeah...  It isn't just about Pereira to pressure Adesanya into going all out vs him.  I mean after how Adesanya's last match turned out, he'll def be pressured to perform.  And he could get starched.  ;/
Izzy will likely out point him, just like in their kick boxing matches, it was almost domination in terms of point fighting, but Alex has that power. They don't call him stone hands for nothing. Man can punch, and we need that threat, but also that rivalry to really wake up Izzy. His style of fighting gets him the wins, although the one with Whittaker recently was very close, but ultimately it doesn't entertain the fans.

Adesanya def could out point Pereira but Adesanya isn't 100% unhittable.  Just one touch from that guy in those 4 ounce gloves, Adesanya sleeps.  He was slept by Pereira with the bigger gloves they use in kickboxing.  So there's prolly some doubt in Adesanya's mind if he can really beat this guy as he was already between twice by Pereira.  

Some replays of those guys in the main event.  Enjoy...

UFC Free Fight:  Fiziev vs Moicano
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5k3ci-Rr_c

UFC Free Fight:  RDA vs Felder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ODk1Oja8dM

I regret putting Fiziev high up in my lottery ticket.  Lol.
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July 07, 2022, 12:22:08 PM

I watched this kickboxing match too. As Izzy dominates this kickboxing match, she unexpectedly falls down with a left hook and is unable to get up. I don't know, it's been 5 years and Izzy has come a long way. I really want this match to happen, but here is the Cage and the gloves are smaller, there is a lot of difference. Izzy has gotten a lot better in this meta, I can say that his focus in the match has increased a lot, so I see very little chance of making a mistake against Perreria.

It was truly a dominating Adesanya inside the ring, but from that time Israel Adesanya's movement was not really slick or doesn't have a technical approach over Pereira, but he got the Accuracy but Alex Pereira just like what happened to Sean Strickland Alex Pereira can download your movement memorizing you clearly then he can counter or execute his devastating left hook, that is what happens with Adesanya being knockout by Alex Pereira, but for me, I think Adesanya is surely known and have already anticipated this on Pereira he can also be safe when it comes to hard-hitting opponents, and this is MMA everything can sure happen,



This is a mind game for Pereira, he wants to intimidate Izzy.

We know Izzy is not what he was back then, he had improved greatly since and there is no doubt he can beat a lot of people in this division. But once a person faces someone who had once defeated him, there is a fear he can feel that he needs to over come. Until Izzy can't find a way to throw big shots against Pereira to show he can fight back this time, he will feel it.


Yup! I agree, that there is lingering fear on the part of Israel Adesanya which is why he is very vocal when people are talking about what happened to him and Pereira, he is always saying to watch the whole fight, that he is dominating the fight, but I really think this is only an excuse and a bad excuse for Israel Adesanya, he shouldn't be affected by those doubting him he is the champion he has climbed up to the top on his own, and shown that he surely dominates the middleweight division, so I think he doesn't need to worry so much,

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July 07, 2022, 09:50:46 AM
Against Pereira, I fear for Adesanya tbh.  The Pereira guy has serious powerrr in those hands.  But yeah...  It isn't just about Pereira to pressure Adesanya into going all out vs him.  I mean after how Adesanya's last match turned out, he'll def be pressured to perform.  And he could get starched.  ;/
Izzy will likely out point him, just like in their kick boxing matches, it was almost domination in terms of point fighting, but Alex has that power. They don't call him stone hands for nothing. Man can punch, and we need that threat, but also that rivalry to really wake up Izzy. His style of fighting gets him the wins, although the one with Whittaker recently was very close, but ultimately it doesn't entertain the fans.
I watched their kickboxing match on youtube the other day. I though Izzy landed clean punches that clearly hurt Pereira but couldn't put him out completely. Maybe it's the difference in gloves or Alex has a tough chin because that could have KO anyone else. If Izzy could be dominant like that in the first two rounds using MMA gloves, I think it will be a different story.

I watched this kickboxing match too. As Izzy dominates this kickboxing match, she unexpectedly falls down with a left hook and is unable to get up. I don't know, it's been 5 years and Izzy has come a long way. I really want this match to happen, but here is the Cage and the gloves are smaller, there is a lot of difference. Izzy has gotten a lot better in this meta, I can say that his focus in the match has increased a lot, so I see very little chance of making a mistake against Perreria.

This is a mind game for Pereira, he wants to intimidate Izzy.

We know Izzy is not what he was back then, he had improved greatly since and there is no doubt he can beat a lot of people in this division. But once a person faces someone who had once defeated him, there is a fear he can feel that he needs to over come. Until Izzy can't find a way to throw big shots against Pereira to show he can fight back this time, he will feel it.
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July 07, 2022, 09:44:56 AM
Against Pereira, I fear for Adesanya tbh.  The Pereira guy has serious powerrr in those hands.  But yeah...  It isn't just about Pereira to pressure Adesanya into going all out vs him.  I mean after how Adesanya's last match turned out, he'll def be pressured to perform.  And he could get starched.  ;/
Izzy will likely out point him, just like in their kick boxing matches, it was almost domination in terms of point fighting, but Alex has that power. They don't call him stone hands for nothing. Man can punch, and we need that threat, but also that rivalry to really wake up Izzy. His style of fighting gets him the wins, although the one with Whittaker recently was very close, but ultimately it doesn't entertain the fans.
I watched their kickboxing match on youtube the other day. I though Izzy landed clean punches that clearly hurt Pereira but couldn't put him out completely. Maybe it's the difference in gloves or Alex has a tough chin because that could have KO anyone else. If Izzy could be dominant like that in the first two rounds using MMA gloves, I think it will be a different story.

I watched this kickboxing match too. As Izzy dominates this kickboxing match, she unexpectedly falls down with a left hook and is unable to get up. I don't know, it's been 5 years and Izzy has come a long way. I really want this match to happen, but here is the Cage and the gloves are smaller, there is a lot of difference. Izzy has gotten a lot better in this meta, I can say that his focus in the match has increased a lot, so I see very little chance of making a mistake against Perreria.
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July 07, 2022, 09:33:48 AM

Only if wrestling and ground game are not mumbo jumbo for Pereira. I believe that he can out strike Vettori, I bet his is better than Costa in stance. But what if Costa wont be having a hangover and decided to prove his BJJ black belt skills. What if Costa wont be that dumb to figure out who is better in striking (however he holds a record of 11 KO among 13 wins) and show his BJJ technics that he is so proud of (the moment when he threw white belt into Adesanya).

Well, based on the fight patterns of Paulo Costa he has so much pride that he thinks he can beat Israel Adesanya on stand-up, and even missed Weight in his fight with Vettori, I think that fight against Israel Adesanya really consumes him so much, Izzy really got into his head and now Costa is not himself anymore, in his recent news he has been accused on hitting a nurse with an elbow, over a covid-19 vaccination card on brazil, I think his mind is not stable anymore and keeps on thinking that he won that Adesanya fight, and after that a not focus Costa faced Vettori, so I think that Pereira has the advantage when it comes on both these fighters,

Don't get me wrong, Izzy has pretty much beat everyone that he can in his division. I was worried about Costa a while ago, but he provided himself decisively in that fight. I want to see Izzy styling on his opponents, because he's very capable of it.

Alex might be able to pressure that out of him, here's to hoping anyway. Anyway, for this weekend I'm probably going to give it a miss from a betting perspective. I'll still get my picks out closer to the date, but I'm really not fancying many of the fighters, and while the card might turn out to be a banger, I'm not overly familiar with everyone on it. 

Well, I think I will give a chance on Alex Pereira, but Israel Adesanya will still be my favorite fighter in the Middleweight, even though his fight result was not a knockout anymore, I still enjoyed his fights, and I got to admit I thought the Jared Cannonier will be a hard fight for him, he proves that he really dominates Cannonier with his style, Israel Adesanya have come a long way, and I really think that the loss from Pereira still lingers in him that is why he was very vocal when it comes to Pereira, and he might be readying to face his demons again, which is I think a great fight to watch,

And I am also not very fond of this UFC event aswell, so I will not be putting my bet for this but will surely give predictions on a closer dates,

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July 07, 2022, 09:31:05 AM
Yeah, I find myself gravitating away from the mess in other threads. Have started trying to report more after that nudge in Meta a couple of weeks ago, too soon to say if improving, and judging from high number of unhandled maybe I should take it easy (soft bad reports make me feel bad heh).
I'll be starting to report them soon. I'm not all that bothered by unhandled reports.


Going the distance is where I see the big lines too, but results also reflect that -- no fight did outside the main in last 3 events.
Absolutely, especially when they're heavyweights. The thing is about most heavyweights, especially unranked or lowly ranked ones, they gas out so quickly so apart from the first round, they're usually clinging onto one another. I honestly, believe it's one of the best lines to bet on if you want to nudge up that profit. I've done it a few times, and been successful, but since I always put accumulators on I don't usually benefit from them, until the other week when everything came in.
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July 07, 2022, 09:25:23 AM
I watch the UFC every weekend, and this thread isn't congested by loads of people trying to earn money, talking about random things. Usually, it's confined to betting, and discussion around certain fighters, where I find the football threads here tend to deviate a lot. Although, it's also off season for football, I don't watch internationals, and only watch the Premier League, so when that starts back up, I'll be involved a bit more again.

Yeah, I find myself gravitating away from the mess in other threads. Have started trying to report more after that nudge in Meta a couple of weeks ago, too soon to say if improving, and judging from high number of unhandled maybe I should take it easy (soft bad reports make me feel bad heh).

I've been trying to see the action in non-football threads too but cricket and esports is beyond me really. Least UFC plenty of (organic?) action.

I can make mistakes so don't listen my predictions blindly, but I like betting more on underdogs in UFC, or special events and fights going to distance or not.
For next UFC event I am still not sure for all fights, but I think that Said Nurmagomedov vs Silva de Andrade won't go to distance and Nurmagomedov should win.
Odds in co-main event are decent on Caio Borralho and I think he is going to win, with his big reach advantage.
In prelims Kennedy Nzechukwu should win and odds are nice on him, but so far I can't find any underdog for potential upset.

Nah I never hold anyone to bets, and never bet so much on a tip that I'd regret it. Maybe when I'm super rish or something, sure. All fun.

Nurmagomedov's on my prediction too -- have to say I seem to be betting on names more than odds when I can't see a clearcut difference (ultimate degen move?).

Going the distance is where I see the big lines too, but results also reflect that -- no fight did outside the main in last 3 events.
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July 07, 2022, 08:26:33 AM
I don't think Izzy will take him to the ground, it's not his preferred place to be, and quite frankly he'll be confident in his abilities. You only have to hear him talk, and he tries to tell people he was up until he got knocked out. Now, that doesn't really matter if you got knocked out, but he's right. I also am in agreement that MMA gloves could change it, although I do get the impression Alex is tough. Although, he has been knocked out himself a few times in kickboxing.

Izzy is going to land a lot I'd imagine. What would be more impressive to me is if Alex tries to mix in the threat of take downs. So, go for one early on. That, might actually make Izzy a little more shy at throwing punches, and therefore allows Alex to get closer for those hooks he loves to throw.
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July 07, 2022, 06:25:49 AM
We are discussing what has happened 5 years ago. During that time both improved their striking and defensive skills. Adesanya has 4 times more fights under mma rules. He wont go forward on Pereira like a locomotion, he will use hints and tricks. If these two fighters meet, the one who has more skills in ground and pound is gonna win, as I think Adesanya will try to get Alex to the ground.
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July 07, 2022, 04:59:47 AM
Against Pereira, I fear for Adesanya tbh.  The Pereira guy has serious powerrr in those hands.  But yeah...  It isn't just about Pereira to pressure Adesanya into going all out vs him.  I mean after how Adesanya's last match turned out, he'll def be pressured to perform.  And he could get starched.  ;/
Izzy will likely out point him, just like in their kick boxing matches, it was almost domination in terms of point fighting, but Alex has that power. They don't call him stone hands for nothing. Man can punch, and we need that threat, but also that rivalry to really wake up Izzy. His style of fighting gets him the wins, although the one with Whittaker recently was very close, but ultimately it doesn't entertain the fans.
I watched their kickboxing match on youtube the other day. I though Izzy landed clean punches that clearly hurt Pereira but couldn't put him out completely. Maybe it's the difference in gloves or Alex has a tough chin because that could have KO anyone else. If Izzy could be dominant like that in the first two rounds using MMA gloves, I think it will be a different story.
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July 07, 2022, 03:11:34 AM
I see Welsh, notblox, and tokes, you're more active here than in football these days?
I watch the UFC every weekend, and this thread isn't congested by loads of people trying to earn money, talking about random things. Usually, it's confined to betting, and discussion around certain fighters, where I find the football threads here tend to deviate a lot. Although, it's also off season for football, I don't watch internationals, and only watch the Premier League, so when that starts back up, I'll be involved a bit more again.

Against Pereira, I fear for Adesanya tbh.  The Pereira guy has serious powerrr in those hands.  But yeah...  It isn't just about Pereira to pressure Adesanya into going all out vs him.  I mean after how Adesanya's last match turned out, he'll def be pressured to perform.  And he could get starched.  ;/
Izzy will likely out point him, just like in their kick boxing matches, it was almost domination in terms of point fighting, but Alex has that power. They don't call him stone hands for nothing. Man can punch, and we need that threat, but also that rivalry to really wake up Izzy. His style of fighting gets him the wins, although the one with Whittaker recently was very close, but ultimately it doesn't entertain the fans.
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July 06, 2022, 04:42:34 PM
Jorge Masvidal. This man is a complete lunatic. I was expecting him to go crazy with the start of the fight but after his very fast knockout, my eyes almost popped out. He loves the show. He will have the fastest knockout even if he doesn't win another fight. I don't think we'll ever see such a quick knockout again. I will never forget this fight.
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July 06, 2022, 03:35:16 PM
^  RDA could upset Fiziev imho.  Fiziev slows down around the third round while RDA has fought 5 rounds of MMA a few times.  I still pick Fiziev tho.

Don't get me wrong, Izzy has pretty much beat everyone that he can in his division. I was worried about Costa a while ago, but he provided himself decisively in that fight. I want to see Izzy styling on his opponents, because he's very capable of it.

Alex might be able to pressure that out of him, here's to hoping anyway. Anyway, for this weekend I'm probably going to give it a miss from a betting perspective. I'll still get my picks out closer to the date, but I'm really not fancying many of the fighters, and while the card might turn out to be a banger, I'm not overly familiar with everyone on it.  

Against Pereira, I fear for Adesanya tbh.  The Pereira guy has serious powerrr in those hands.  But yeah...  It isn't just about Pereira to pressure Adesanya into going all out vs him.  I mean after how Adesanya's last match turned out, he'll def be pressured to perform.  And he could get starched.  ;/

As for the next event, I like the main, the co main, the co co main and the opening match between Lawrence and Kakhramonov.
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July 06, 2022, 02:29:57 PM
I see Welsh, notblox, and tokes, you're more active here than in football these days?
I am active in both of them, UFC with other MMA events when they are available, and I had good results with South American leagues recently.
Sometimes I even play on eSports during this dry season time Smiley

That's why I'm here for yours --  who's the best to back for an upset?
I can make mistakes so don't listen my predictions blindly, but I like betting more on underdogs in UFC, or special events and fights going to distance or not.
For next UFC event I am still not sure for all fights, but I think that Said Nurmagomedov vs Silva de Andrade won't go to distance and Nurmagomedov should win.
Odds in co-main event are decent on Caio Borralho and I think he is going to win, with his big reach advantage.
In prelims Kennedy Nzechukwu should win and odds are nice on him, but so far I can't find any underdog for potential upset.
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July 06, 2022, 01:37:21 PM
Don't get me wrong, Izzy has pretty much beat everyone that he can in his division. I was worried about Costa a while ago, but he provided himself decisively in that fight. I want to see Izzy styling on his opponents, because he's very capable of it.

Alex might be able to pressure that out of him, here's to hoping anyway. Anyway, for this weekend I'm probably going to give it a miss from a betting perspective. I'll still get my picks out closer to the date, but I'm really not fancying many of the fighters, and while the card might turn out to be a banger, I'm not overly familiar with everyone on it. 
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