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Quote from: Betwrong on November 23, 2021, 05:13:20 AM

Yeah, that 2 minute video in my post above is a good source for those who don't have time to watch many of Chimaev's fights, but still want to know about his style and potential. The video has got above 1 million views already, and for a good reason. It kind of summarizes in short form the phenomenon of Khamzat Chimaev.

That is why I really think that Khamzat Chimaev is a promising fighter and needs a title shot that he wants and if he wants it then he surely deserves it, That power he has with his grappling I think he has the best grappling in the division no doubt about it.

Quote from: Betwrong on November 23, 2021, 05:13:20 AM

If you mean, Kamaru Usman is on the higher level, then I think you still underestimate Chimaev.

I mean a higher level towards the belt, I really believe that he is cut to fight Kamaru Usman, and deserves a shot into a title match, I surely never underestimate Chimaev, like I have said I will surely support him all the way.

Quote from: tokeweed on November 23, 2021, 09:11:50 AM

The belt? Uh no.. Things are going to be very hard for Sean Brady. He isn’t exceptional or anything special unlike how Chimaev is. And try watching the match again. He was getting hit really hard by Chiesa who isn’t really a good striker. I feel like the match makers will really have a hard time finding his next opponent unless he’s going to be some sort of stepping stone for another fighter.

Aaand didn’t realize the next event is next next weekend. -_-

Well, we may never know if he really works hard in giving his all maybe he can take a step further, but yes that fight is not really that outstanding but in what I see he really dominates Chiesa on the ring, that I thought it will go the other way around, I have bet for Michael Chiesa and I really never expected the result that Sean Brady could win, but maybe sometime after this fight he can be worth a shot for the title match.

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Quote from: Welsh on November 23, 2021, 07:06:24 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on November 23, 2021, 09:11:50 AM

The belt? Uh no.. Things are going to be very hard for Sean Brady. He isn’t exceptional or anything special unlike how Chimaev is. And try watching the match again. He was getting hit really hard by Chiesa who isn’t really a good striker. I feel like the match makers will really have a hard time finding his next opponent unless he’s going to be some sort of stepping stone for another fighter.

Aaand didn’t realize the next event is next next weekend. -_-

Basically, you could hear Chiesa saying to his corner that "he's so strong", but other than that I'm not overly impressed by him. Yeah, he definitely has good wrestling skills, but I think that gets tested a lot more with more wrestling focused fighters. Chiesa I thought did pretty poorly, considering I was betting on him winning, but it is what it is. He definitely did rock Brady at least once in the last round. Plus, Brady's gas tank is questionable at best.

Yeah, then the week after that we have Poirier vs Oliveria I believe. Plus, Ryan the wizard, and just a bunch of other great fights setup. Can't wait for that card. In fact, I'm probably going to avoid betting on the next event to save some money for that banger of a card.

And that coming from Chiesa, he always seemed like a super-strong guy. Chiesa kinda went on a really nice winning streak and seemed back on track, but these two losses, I hadn't thought he would do so badly. It's like he seems so close to breaking out, and then something goes wrong and he gets back to the end of the line. A shame.

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Quote from: Welsh on November 23, 2021, 07:06:24 PM

Quote from: tokeweed on November 23, 2021, 09:11:50 AM

The belt? Uh no.. Things are going to be very hard for Sean Brady. He isn’t exceptional or anything special unlike how Chimaev is. And try watching the match again. He was getting hit really hard by Chiesa who isn’t really a good striker. I feel like the match makers will really have a hard time finding his next opponent unless he’s going to be some sort of stepping stone for another fighter.

Aaand didn’t realize the next event is next next weekend. -_-

Basically, you could hear Chiesa saying to his corner that "he's so strong", but other than that I'm not overly impressed by him. Yeah, he definitely has good wrestling skills, but I think that gets tested a lot more with more wrestling focused fighters. Chiesa I thought did pretty poorly, considering I was betting on him winning, but it is what it is. He definitely did rock Brady at least once in the last round. Plus, Brady's gas tank is questionable at best.

Yeah, then the week after that we have Poirier vs Oliveria I believe. Plus, Ryan the wizard, and just a bunch of other great fights setup. Can't wait for that card. In fact, I'm probably going to avoid betting on the next event to save some money for that banger of a card.

^ Ryan Hall could win but I’m really not sure about that line at 1.45 and it’s 2.75 for Minner. I mean especially after Hall was exposed by Ilia Topiria in their last match. I’d bet Hall at around 1.70 or better.. At the current line, no bueno.

Another interesting match up is O’Malley vs Paiva. Seems like another good spot for the underdog... And Kara France vs Garbrandt could be another underdog spot. Can’t wait.

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Quote from: notblox1 on November 23, 2021, 05:12:00 PM

I think it's still early for Sean Bready title fight but everything is possible if he continues with his perfect undefeated record in his next fight with one more top level fighter.
UFC and Dana White want flashy performance and KO finishes and you can go in title fight much quicker in that case.
Kamaru Usman is so strong in this division and I don't think anyone can defeat him including Bready.

That would be like breaking a huge wall in front of him. Bready should take this fight seriously and he needs some motivation to go for the knockout if he wanted to preserve his record. either way, this will be a great experience for him he should show everyone how skilled a fighter he is and if he will be failed, at least he got some idea of how to fight stronger opponents than him. This will be a good fight because neither one of them will give up their record.

Brady isn't really exceptional but yes he is strong that is why he has no loss. Bready he is an aggressive fighter though, he just kept the pressure and he knows he can take down with his strength but In the last round with Chiesa, I think he was just saved by the bell while Chiesa was on his back.

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Quote from: notblox1 on November 23, 2021, 05:12:00 PM

I think it's still early for Sean Bready title fight but everything is possible if he continues with his perfect undefeated record in his next fight with one more top level fighter.
UFC and Dana White want flashy performance and KO finishes and you can go in title fight much quicker in that case.
Kamaru Usman is so strong in this division and I don't think anyone can defeat him including Bready.

That would be like breaking a huge wall in front of him. Bready should take this fight seriously and he needs some motivation to go for the knockout if he wanted to preserve his record. either way, this will be a great experience for him he should show everyone how skilled a fighter he is and if he will be failed, at least he got some idea of how to fight stronger opponents than him. This will be a good fight because neither one of them will give up their record.

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Quote from: tokeweed on November 23, 2021, 09:11:50 AM

The belt? Uh no.. Things are going to be very hard for Sean Brady. He isn’t exceptional or anything special unlike how Chimaev is. And try watching the match again. He was getting hit really hard by Chiesa who isn’t really a good striker. I feel like the match makers will really have a hard time finding his next opponent unless he’s going to be some sort of stepping stone for another fighter.

Aaand didn’t realize the next event is next next weekend. -_-

Basically, you could hear Chiesa saying to his corner that "he's so strong", but other than that I'm not overly impressed by him. Yeah, he definitely has good wrestling skills, but I think that gets tested a lot more with more wrestling focused fighters. Chiesa I thought did pretty poorly, considering I was betting on him winning, but it is what it is. He definitely did rock Brady at least once in the last round. Plus, Brady's gas tank is questionable at best.

Yeah, then the week after that we have Poirier vs Oliveria I believe. Plus, Ryan the wizard, and just a bunch of other great fights setup. Can't wait for that card. In fact, I'm probably going to avoid betting on the next event to save some money for that banger of a card.

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I think it's still early for Sean Bready title fight but everything is possible if he continues with his perfect undefeated record in his next fight with one more top level fighter.
UFC and Dana White want flashy performance and KO finishes and you can go in title fight much quicker in that case.
Kamaru Usman is so strong in this division and I don't think anyone can defeat him including Bready.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on November 22, 2021, 05:49:44 PM

Quote from: notblox1 on November 22, 2021, 04:24:02 PM

Sean Brady did an amazing work defeating Michael Chiesa, he kept his perfect mma record with 15 wins ands I expect to see him jumping in much better position for welterweight division.
Chiesa was 6th in UFC ranking for his division and Bready was 14th, so I think he deserves to be on number seven or eight and in top 10 for sure.
He was calling for main event and five rounds in his next fight and some of the top 10 or top 5 fighter.

I really didn't expect Brady would win, but after that performance, he sure will skyrocket on a higher rank and might be able to compete for the belt, but with Chiesa match, he surely shown how he can handle the situation more calm and technical, I think he surely controls every round and giving pressure with his takedowns that I though Michael Chiesa would do, well I was shocked to see the opposite Sean Brady really deserves the praise, but after this match, the next match will surely be hard now that he had risen the rankings,

But because of his performance, I will surely look forward to what he can still do in his future fights and if he's able to keep the undefeated record.

The belt? Uh no.. Things are going to be very hard for Sean Brady. He isn’t exceptional or anything special unlike how Chimaev is. And try watching the match again. He was getting hit really hard by Chiesa who isn’t really a good striker. I feel like the match makers will really have a hard time finding his next opponent unless he’s going to be some sort of stepping stone for another fighter.

Aaand didn’t realize the next event is next next weekend. -_-

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Chimaev looks promising, but I'm not sure if he deserves a title shot against Usman yet? Usman also has two outlets to his attacks, he can knock people out, and he's also a decent wrestler. Chimaev we've only really seen the wrestling side. I don't think he'll man handle Usman like he has with everyone else that has been put in front of him so far.

I want to see Chimaev put in front of a few lesser opponents than Usman, but are known for being able to prevent the takedown, and have heavy fists. This is MMA, and it would be nice to see if Chimaev can mix it up. Despite all the criticism Khabib gets for his wrestling style, he actually did have decent stand up too.

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Important thing about Chimaev - we do not know anything about his cardio. He never fought longer than 2 rounds or longer than 7 minutes. But if we look on Usman record - plenty of 25min fights. If you think that it will be an easy fight for Chimaev, then give me your thought how he is going to win. Statistically Usman has 100% defense against takedowns. His current striking is on a top level. This is either is going to be a close fight and win by decision by Usman, or we will get all the answers when we will see how good Chimaevs cardio is.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on November 19, 2021, 03:04:54 PM

Quote from: Betwrong on November 19, 2021, 05:21:38 AM

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That is why I really like Khamzat Chimaev really get the Leon Edwards fight, he surely knows what he is doing in my opinion, that speed and strength that he showed to destroy the Sambo Champion are pretty remarkable with just a punch because he can not make a takedown while we can see he is outpowering his opponent, but Ikram Aliskerov has a background in combat sambo his takedown defense is remarkable, so Khamzat would take him out with a powerful punch. that out cold Ikram Aliskerov was really powerful.

Yeah, that 2 minute video in my post above is a good source for those who don't have time to watch many of Chimaev's fights, but still want to know about his style and potential. The video has got above 1 million views already, and for a good reason. It kind of summarizes in short form the phenomenon of Khamzat Chimaev.

Quote from: YuginKadoya on November 19, 2021, 03:04:54 PM

This is why I am Khamzat all the way, regarding if he could make a title match against Kamaru Usman this is a different level fighter.

If you mean, Kamaru Usman is on the higher level, then I think you still underestimate Chimaev.

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Quote from: tokeweed on November 22, 2021, 05:14:09 PM

Yup, at first glance my gut is going for Aldo too. Font is good but Aldo has way more experience. And I think this is Font’s first time fighting in a 5 round main event. Aldo on the other hand is so used to fighting 5 round matches since he was the champ at 145 for so long... And he’s the underdog. Wink

Good point, I think it's often underestimated fighters that are used to fighting five rounds, it's a totally different pace at which you need to fight. For example, Sean Brady would definitely not be competitive going into the championship rounds, and while he did definitely do well against Chiesa, you could see he was gassing out towards the end, and another round I think he could have definitely been in a lot of trouble, since Chiesa was finally getting to him. In fact, I think he may have been rocked twice during that last round, hard to tell because he went straight for the takedown, which is a normal reaction for a wrestler when they get rocked.

Yeah Aldo being the underdog still hasn't hit me yet. Such a legend, I forget he's getting on a bit now. Still, I consider him the favourite in my heart Cheesy

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Quote from: notblox1 on November 22, 2021, 04:24:02 PM

Sean Brady did an amazing work defeating Michael Chiesa, he kept his perfect mma record with 15 wins ands I expect to see him jumping in much better position for welterweight division.
Chiesa was 6th in UFC ranking for his division and Bready was 14th, so I think he deserves to be on number seven or eight and in top 10 for sure.
He was calling for main event and five rounds in his next fight and some of the top 10 or top 5 fighter.

I really didn't expect Brady would win, but after that performance, he sure will skyrocket on a higher rank and might be able to compete for the belt, but with Chiesa match, he surely shown how he can handle the situation more calm and technical, I think he surely controls every round and giving pressure with his takedowns that I though Michael Chiesa would do, well I was shocked to see the opposite Sean Brady really deserves the praise, but after this match, the next match will surely be hard now that he had risen the rankings,

But because of his performance, I will surely look forward to what he can still do in his future fights and if he's able to keep the undefeated record.

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Quote from: Welsh on November 22, 2021, 06:51:56 AM

I basically put a few of the favourites on an accumulator, and they all won. Except, I included it on a accumulator with some football bet builders, which Manchester City didn't get over 8 corners, so I actually fell short. It was more of a punt in the dark rather than anything.

Terrible fights for most of the night I thought was definitely a card to forget. Sean Brady did alright, not impressed massively by him, and Chiesa also seemed to only wake up in the last round, where Sean could then just dive for the takedown, and keep safe. Disappointing even all around.

The good news is we should have a few weeks of absolute banger of cards now that one is over, and done with.

My early leans for the next even are; Jake Matthews, Aldo, and Kape. So, I'm pretty much fancying the favourites again this time around. Though, Font could shock Also. Jake I'm very confident about.

Yup, at first glance my gut is going for Aldo too. Font is good but Aldo has way more experience. And I think this is Font’s first time fighting in a 5 round main event. Aldo on the other hand is so used to fighting 5 round matches since he was the champ at 145 for so long... And he’s the underdog. Wink

Here’s a vid of Font vs Garbrandt.

UFC Free Fight: Font vs Garbrandt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnwJlr7x33Q

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Sean Brady did an amazing work defeating Michael Chiesa, he kept his perfect mma record with 15 wins ands I expect to see him jumping in much better position for welterweight division.
Chiesa was 6th in UFC ranking for his division and Bready was 14th, so I think he deserves to be on number seven or eight and in top 10 for sure.
He was calling for main event and five rounds in his next fight and some of the top 10 or top 5 fighter.

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I don't really see any great fights right now but the Rob Font VS the Jose Aldo match only, in this fight I feel that Jose Aldo is not in his prime anymore, well this is just what I see about him right now, and the rising Rob Font still is advancing and making progress, Jose Aldo after his Conor McGregor fight he is not the same anymore, it really hit him physically and mentally, Conor McGregor have put him in a mental state were Jose Aldo can not come back to be Jose Aldo anymore that fight really devastate him, for me Rob Font is a better fighter right now, well this is just what I think I will still gather information to strengthen my pick.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on November 22, 2021, 02:26:04 AM

UFC on ESPN: Font vs. Aldo

Date: December 5 , 2021
Main Card: Sun, Dec 5 / 5:00 AM EET
Prelims: Sun, Dec 5 / 2:00 AM EET

Venue: UFC Apex

Main card (ESPN / ESPN+)
Bantamweight: Rob Font vs. José Aldo
Lightweight: Brad Riddell vs. Rafael Fiziev
Light Heavyweight: Jimmy Crute vs. Jamahal Hill

Preliminary card (ESPN2 / ESPN+)
Flyweight: Manel Kape vs. Zhalgas Zhumagulov
Welterweight: Jake Matthews vs. Jeremiah Wells

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_on_ESPN:_Font_vs._Aldo

P.S. I will update the card when there will be more info

Aldo probably had over come the devastating loss against big fights of his life that made him the highlight knockouts. He won the last two fights, he deserves the main event.

But this Rob Font is also too fit to fight anyone in his way. Hope to see Aldo give good shots or drop on the 3rd round so it won't be very disappointing.

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I basically put a few of the favourites on an accumulator, and they all won. Except, I included it on a accumulator with some football bet builders, which Manchester City didn't get over 8 corners, so I actually fell short. It was more of a punt in the dark rather than anything.

Terrible fights for most of the night I thought was definitely a card to forget. Sean Brady did alright, not impressed massively by him, and Chiesa also seemed to only wake up in the last round, where Sean could then just dive for the takedown, and keep safe. Disappointing even all around.

The good news is we should have a few weeks of absolute banger of cards now that one is over, and done with.

My early leans for the next even are; Jake Matthews, Aldo, and Kape. So, I'm pretty much fancying the favourites again this time around. Though, Font could shock Also. Jake I'm very confident about.

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UFC on ESPN: Font vs. Aldo

Date: December 5 , 2021
Main Card: Sun, Dec 5 / 5:00 AM EET
Prelims: Sun, Dec 5 / 2:00 AM EET

Venue: UFC Apex

Main card (ESPN / ESPN+)
Bantamweight: Rob Font vs. José Aldo
Lightweight: Brad Riddell vs. Rafael Fiziev
Light Heavyweight: Jimmy Crute vs. Jamahal Hill
Lightweight: Clay Guida vs Leonardo Santos
Middleweight: Brendan Allen vs. Chris Curtis

Preliminary card (ESPN2 / ESPN+)
Flyweight: Manel Kape vs. Zhalgas Zhumagulov
Welterweight: Jake Matthews vs. Jeremiah Wells
Middleweight: Maki Pitolo vs Dusko Todorovic
Womens strawweight: Cheyanne Vlismas vs Mallory Martin
Light Heavyweight: Alonzo Menifield vs Willian Knight
Lightweight: Claudio Puelles vs Chris Gruetzemacher
Light Heavyweight: Philipe Lins vs Azamat Murzakanov
Welterweight: Alex Morono vs Mickey Gall
Bantamweight: Louis Smolka vs Vince Morales

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_on_ESPN:_Font_vs._Aldo

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Quote from: tokeweed on November 21, 2021, 11:01:10 AM

A disaster card for me from a betting perspective. LOL. I mean wow. I think I need to stop wasting the sig monies in these events. If somebody can suggest an online store that accepts BTC where I can buy some knick knacks or random fun stuff, I’m all ears.

The next event should be fun. Early leans are Aldo and Fiziev... Feel free to fade. Cheesy

Just buy some horribly designed UFC merch and thank me later. The terrible card situation, well, that's all down to there being too many cards in a year, so by sheer statistic, you will get some shitty ones. But with so many fighters on the roster, I don't see how they could get around having so many events. It's a catch 22.

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