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January 03, 2022, 09:48:57 AM
This is the problem, now fighters try to exploit themselves where the money is because their paycheck in the industry is not that much to make them satisfy, although I like Onlyfans this is the big reality UFC is facing right now where a combat sport that is life-changing and life-threatening to most fighters is not cut for a lifetime hospital bill will surely get us to wonder why other sports can give their players a cut befitting to a lifetime change, that is because of greed I don't really like to continue because I love UFC especially watching it, and I owe it to my boy Dana White, but they need to realize something.

That's something that a Fighters Union could regulate so that the fighters themselves will not have to prostitute themselves. Sure, MMA is a relatively young sport and with that in mind, it just didn't have the time to get to the business level the other sports got to, even tho it had a fairly quick surge in popularity. MMA organizations, and UFC in particular, are playing catch up to their popularity, and I am guessing the old guard of MMA organization brass has to die out before things change.

Well, you might be right, and UFC is like a child to other sports and to more well-known combat like boxing it sure still strive to go beyond, but maybe a little anchovy to the pizza or whip cream to the cake could not hurt Dana White in his I am the owner of UFC thing I can do anything, sure enough, he has authority to every fighter UFC have but just doesn't treat them as playthings, or just dispensable things but I wish there will be a time that it will surely come.

And just in, with the upcoming fight of Francis Ngannou and Ciryl Gane Ngannou's contract is about to go final and his last appearance will be on UFC 270 if he doesn't sign the contract, and Ngannou has a blazing desire to pursue his boxing aspiration and he wants to face Deontay Wilder or Tyson Fury two of the best boxer in the heavyweight, well let's just wait if what kind of Boxer Francis Ngannoue could become, or if he's going to be on the UFC side,
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January 03, 2022, 09:35:20 AM
This is the problem, now fighters try to exploit themselves where the money is because their paycheck in the industry is not that much to make them satisfy, although I like Onlyfans this is the big reality UFC is facing right now where a combat sport that is life-changing and life-threatening to most fighters is not cut for a lifetime hospital bill will surely get us to wonder why other sports can give their players a cut befitting to a lifetime change, that is because of greed I don't really like to continue because I love UFC especially watching it, and I owe it to my boy Dana White, but they need to realize something.

That's something that a Fighters Union could regulate so that the fighters themselves will not have to prostitute themselves. Sure, MMA is a relatively young sport and with that in mind, it just didn't have the time to get to the business level the other sports got to, even tho it had a fairly quick surge in popularity. MMA organizations, and UFC in particular, are playing catch up to their popularity, and I am guessing the old guard of MMA organization brass has to die out before things change.

I thought they have lots of possibilities after learning things in UFC like being a nutritionist or gym trainor, coach or something like that? I've read that from TopTort's post which they do have lots of optionels I guess Kay Hansen has another option in mind. She's beautiful though can't say she will not earn a lot with Onlyfans. It seem to be the trend these days.

Celebrities seems to be going to that path too. Some of these celebrities even accepts escort jobs they are just discreet.
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January 03, 2022, 04:02:28 AM
This is the problem, now fighters try to exploit themselves where the money is because their paycheck in the industry is not that much to make them satisfy, although I like Onlyfans this is the big reality UFC is facing right now where a combat sport that is life-changing and life-threatening to most fighters is not cut for a lifetime hospital bill will surely get us to wonder why other sports can give their players a cut befitting to a lifetime change, that is because of greed I don't really like to continue because I love UFC especially watching it, and I owe it to my boy Dana White, but they need to realize something.

That's something that a Fighters Union could regulate so that the fighters themselves will not have to prostitute themselves. Sure, MMA is a relatively young sport and with that in mind, it just didn't have the time to get to the business level the other sports got to, even tho it had a fairly quick surge in popularity. MMA organizations, and UFC in particular, are playing catch up to their popularity, and I am guessing the old guard of MMA organization brass has to die out before things change.
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January 02, 2022, 04:38:54 PM
I was reading the arguments on fighter salaries and payments and I reckon that we should be happy that uncle Dana does not pay them much money or else we would not have this woman MMA fighter create her own Onlyfans account hehehee.

This is Kay Hansen. She will be champion in her weight division.

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This is the problem, now fighters try to exploit themselves where the money is because their paycheck in the industry is not that much to make them satisfy, although I like Onlyfans this is the big reality UFC is facing right now where a combat sport that is life-changing and life-threatening to most fighters is not cut for a lifetime hospital bill will surely get us to wonder why other sports can give their players a cut befitting to a lifetime change, that is because of greed I don't really like to continue because I love UFC especially watching it, and I owe it to my boy Dana White, but they need to realize something.

The fighters should promote themselves and make sure the audience will stay tuned to watch the fight, either to see them loose or to see them win. Paul brothers are playing the character or Mayweatger started to play the money character so that the fans would get excited to watch the fight. 

That given image of Mayweather tends to give an idea to the Paul brothers in doing events like this, and sure their boxing is amazing and they keep on proving this even though their opponent is not pure boxing they get to show their skills, and yeah this sometimes hype some curious audience. 

Tyron Woodley who could win the fight against Jake Paul and extend his boxing career instead he took money to get a hard shot in the face and fall face first in the canvas unconscious, what a joke. These conspiracy theories that does not make any sense Cheesy.

The conspiracy will always stay as a conspiracy until proven legit, let's just leave it to that.

There was a time when Floyd Mayweather was winning belts and no one really cared about watching his fights nor he was the main event. He found success after changing his moniker Pretty boy to money and started showing off his wealth leaving Bob Arum and creating his own promotion changed his fortunes.

This goes to show how good Mayweather is thinking ways how to increase his profit, and I think a good start is to think and be like Bob Arum but at the safe time promoting himself and the Moniker Money has attracted other boxers to fight him because the money is him,
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January 02, 2022, 10:55:31 AM
^  Sure some fighters in the UFC do a lot of talking to hype the event.  But it doesn’t mean the matches don’t deliver full on action and entertainment.  And that’s the same whether it’s a PPV card or a regular fight night card.  A lot of times, it’s the regular fight night cards that surprise everybody in entertainment value even though name value is low.  I can’t say the same for boxing.  Boxing is like watching paint dry.  So boring now with the advent of MMA.  But I do watch the big match ups.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I am not saying that fighters that hype an event with their talk don't deliver. In 90% of cases, they surely do. I am talking about people being drawn to the sport on that alone and then come to find out that most fighters actually do not hype fights, and in fact, some fights tend to be on a more technical, less entertaining side, so to speak. And that turns them away because they expected something else.
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January 02, 2022, 08:06:02 AM
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but for Floyd Mayweather case, and Jake or Logan Paul their attitude image was the one people doesn't really like, and they are paying some money to see them fall, and sometimes they would consider hyping their fights by mocking their opponents
The fighters should promote themselves and make sure the audience will stay tuned to watch the fight, either to see them loose or to see them win. Paul brothers are playing the character or Mayweatger started to play the money character so that the fans would get excited to watch the fight. 

Some issues say that Jake Paul has paid a huge amount of money to Woodley to just lose in that fight, but I don't really know if this is true or not, but many that known Tyron Woodley said that he can sure beat Jake Paul if he likes it, but that's not what happens, and they think that Woodley is not himself,
Tyron Woodley who could win the fight against Jake Paul and extend his boxing career instead he took money to get a hard shot in the face and fall face first in the canvas unconscious, what a joke. These conspiracy theories that does not make any sense Cheesy.

And I don't like Floyd Mayweather either, his behavior and attitude was the trigger for a better hype but yes it really goes below the belt sometimes, but the moniker money is sure true if any boxer or fighter wants a huge amount of money they will need to fight Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao, Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder, well-known boxer for an exhibition match it will surely get tons of PPV.
There was a time when Floyd Mayweather was winning belts and no one really cared about watching his fights nor he was the main event. He found success after changing his moniker Pretty boy to money and started showing off his wealth leaving Bob Arum and creating his own promotion changed his fortunes.

The same can be said about Colby Covington, he was the nicest person in the world and no one really cared whether he is fighting or not and he was supposed to be cut from the UFC even though he was winning after the Demian Maia fight in Brazil, but he cut a promo changing his attitude and personality in Brazil and he became the most hated person in MMA but he kept his job and started earning more money. Sometimes you need to do things as an entertainer to make money. Some do it in a subtle way, while some go the extreme route.

They'd have to have thier own Connor walk to really make the fans excited.  Floyd brings his celeb friends to his side upon going to the cage such as 50cents for a grand entrance. They don't do these stunts anymore, Anderson Silva singing that "Ain't no sunshine" while dancing ala Micheal Jackson impresses the audience like they are in the WWE.

This shows the character of the fighter. This one if the best example of it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nhsuypE7DQ

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January 02, 2022, 07:35:36 AM
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but for Floyd Mayweather case, and Jake or Logan Paul their attitude image was the one people doesn't really like, and they are paying some money to see them fall, and sometimes they would consider hyping their fights by mocking their opponents
The fighters should promote themselves and make sure the audience will stay tuned to watch the fight, either to see them loose or to see them win. Paul brothers are playing the character or Mayweatger started to play the money character so that the fans would get excited to watch the fight. 

Some issues say that Jake Paul has paid a huge amount of money to Woodley to just lose in that fight, but I don't really know if this is true or not, but many that known Tyron Woodley said that he can sure beat Jake Paul if he likes it, but that's not what happens, and they think that Woodley is not himself,
Tyron Woodley who could win the fight against Jake Paul and extend his boxing career instead he took money to get a hard shot in the face and fall face first in the canvas unconscious, what a joke. These conspiracy theories that does not make any sense Cheesy.

And I don't like Floyd Mayweather either, his behavior and attitude was the trigger for a better hype but yes it really goes below the belt sometimes, but the moniker money is sure true if any boxer or fighter wants a huge amount of money they will need to fight Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao, Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder, well-known boxer for an exhibition match it will surely get tons of PPV.
There was a time when Floyd Mayweather was winning belts and no one really cared about watching his fights nor he was the main event. He found success after changing his moniker Pretty boy to money and started showing off his wealth leaving Bob Arum and creating his own promotion changed his fortunes.

The same can be said about Colby Covington, he was the nicest person in the world and no one really cared whether he is fighting or not and he was supposed to be cut from the UFC even though he was winning after the Demian Maia fight in Brazil, but he cut a promo changing his attitude and personality in Brazil and he became the most hated person in MMA but he kept his job and started earning more money. Sometimes you need to do things as an entertainer to make money. Some do it in a subtle way, while some go the extreme route.
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January 02, 2022, 03:47:32 AM
I was reading the arguments on fighter salaries and payments and I reckon that we should be happy that uncle Dana does not pay them much money or else we would not have this woman MMA fighter create her own Onlyfans account hehehee.

This is Kay Hansen. She will be champion in her weight division.

https://onlyfans.com/kayhansenmma

https://www.reddit.com/r/KayHansenNSFW/

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January 01, 2022, 05:47:31 PM

This is a common factor among people that they want the underdog in the fight to win. Maybe this is common human behavior.

But I, for myself, don't like Floyd's behavior at all. Having an aggressive attitude for fighters is okay, but there's a limit to it and he often crosses it. But whichever the reason why people watch him, at the end of the day he is the money-maker and there is no denying it. But, it would be a pleasure to watch him lose.

Well, a very common behavior, many would like to see the underdog strive right, but the good thing about this is for bettors they will cash in a remarkable amount of money when the underdog did win, but for Floyd Mayweather case, and Jake or Logan Paul their attitude image was the one people doesn't really like, and they are paying some money to see them fall, and sometimes they would consider hyping their fights by mocking their opponents,

Some issues say that Jake Paul has paid a huge amount of money to Woodley to just lose in that fight, but I don't really know if this is true or not, but many that known Tyron Woodley said that he can sure beat Jake Paul if he likes it, but that's not what happens, and they think that Woodley is not himself,

And I don't like Floyd Mayweather either, his behavior and attitude was the trigger for a better hype but yes it really goes below the belt sometimes, but the moniker money is sure true if any boxer or fighter wants a huge amount of money they will need to fight Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao, Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder, well-known boxer for an exhibition match it will surely get tons of PPV.
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January 01, 2022, 12:44:42 PM
^  Sure some fighters in the UFC do a lot of talking to hype the event.  But it doesn’t mean the matches don’t deliver full on action and entertainment.  And that’s the same whether it’s a PPV card or a regular fight night card.  A lot of times, it’s the regular fight night cards that surprise everybody in entertainment value even though name value is low.  I can’t say the same for boxing.  Boxing is like watching paint dry.  So boring now with the advent of MMA.  But I do watch the big match ups.
Seriously, I'm guilty for this at times. When we see a card full of prospects, and doesn't have any big names we usually sigh, and complain about it. Though, often these are usually the most balanced fights, and has fighters actually fighting to earn a living so we usually see some absolute awesome fights.

Boxing is an absolute bore, until you get to certain big fighters against big fighters. The problem is; those big fights don't exactly happen that often in boxing, which means your watching a hyped up fighter, bash on unproven journeyman for much of their career. Then the bigger fights avoid each other because their teams want to keep the hype train running, which then spoils it for the fans.

@tokeweed, I agree with you. It's not like the fighters only do the talking outside the ring, they even deliver the entertainment in the ring.
So I wouldn't say that UFC is washed out or something. Although I can say that most people watch the high voltage matches having the bigger names, but I also enjoy watching the new fighters or lesser-known fighters.
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January 01, 2022, 12:35:56 PM
^  Sure some fighters in the UFC do a lot of talking to hype the event.  But it doesn’t mean the matches don’t deliver full on action and entertainment.  And that’s the same whether it’s a PPV card or a regular fight night card.  A lot of times, it’s the regular fight night cards that surprise everybody in entertainment value even though name value is low.  I can’t say the same for boxing.  Boxing is like watching paint dry.  So boring now with the advent of MMA.  But I do watch the big match ups.
Seriously, I'm guilty for this at times. When we see a card full of prospects, and doesn't have any big names we usually sigh, and complain about it. Though, often these are usually the most balanced fights, and has fighters actually fighting to earn a living so we usually see some absolute awesome fights.

Boxing is an absolute bore, until you get to certain big fighters against big fighters. The problem is; those big fights don't exactly happen that often in boxing, which means your watching a hyped up fighter, bash on unproven journeyman for much of their career. Then the bigger fights avoid each other because their teams want to keep the hype train running, which then spoils it for the fans.
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January 01, 2022, 11:28:58 AM

Floyd is extraordinary which the boxing fans really like to see him inside the ring due to his unique style. No boxer yet has found a way to see his weakness even today but do you think he can ask for higher pay once his record shows 1 loss?

That is the thing, in my opinion, there are many who want to see his loss rather than people watching him because of his unique style, his style is just to evade, and the most audience wants to see him lost in a fight and another thing is his cocky behavior that most people don't like, there are some that are paying to see him get beaten inside the ring, that is why he is the money maker

This is a common factor among people that they want the underdog in the fight to win. Maybe this is common human behavior.

But I, for myself, don't like Floyd's behavior at all. Having an aggressive attitude for fighters is okay, but there's a limit to it and he often crosses it. But whichever the reason why people watch him, at the end of the day he is the money-maker and there is no denying it. But, it would be a pleasure to watch him lose.
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January 01, 2022, 10:19:56 AM
^  Sure some fighters in the UFC do a lot of talking to hype the event.  But it doesn’t mean the matches don’t deliver full on action and entertainment.  And that’s the same whether it’s a PPV card or a regular fight night card.  A lot of times, it’s the regular fight night cards that surprise everybody in entertainment value even though name value is low.  I can’t say the same for boxing.  Boxing is like watching paint dry.  So boring now with the advent of MMA.  But I do watch the big match ups.
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January 01, 2022, 10:16:35 AM
No wonder there are fighters who chose to be cocky, do they get more pay thru it?

Floyd is extraordinary which the boxing fans really like to see him inside the ring due to his unique style. No boxer yet has found a way to see his weakness even today but do you think he can ask for higher pay once his record shows 1 loss?

Just like Logan, more people will want to see him fight and he could get a lot of money for each fight. Boxing and MMA are benefitting from what he is doing I think he still will get good money as long as he is youtube sensation.

I don't know if the sport, in general, is benefiting from their antis. People might get drawn into it, but when they see that most of the rosters don't match that outspokenness and bravado, they might be quick to turn away. That's just my two cents on it, and I could be off by a mile, but it's never good when everything is dependant on a couple of individuals and their shtick.
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January 01, 2022, 10:09:58 AM
No wonder there are fighters who chose to be cocky, do they get more pay thru it?

I think it is all for show and to get more attention for people to buy their tickets, well you can say it is a strategy for some to make a ruckus before the fight
so they can get more hype.

Floyd is extraordinary which the boxing fans really like to see him inside the ring due to his unique style. No boxer yet has found a way to see his weakness even today but do you think he can ask for higher pay once his record shows 1 loss?

That is the thing, in my opinion, there are many who want to see his loss rather than people watching him because of his unique style, his style is just to evade, and the most audience wants to see him lost in a fight and another thing is his cocky behavior that most people don't like, there are some that are paying to see him get beaten inside the ring, that is why he is the money maker

Just like Logan, more people will want to see him fight and he could get a lot of money for each fight. Boxing and MMA are benefitting from what he is doing I think he still will get good money as long as he is youtube sensation.

Yep! another thing is Logan or Jake Paul's cockiness and arrogance, so people would love to pay to see them get beaten up real bad, and not because of their skill and strength, people just want to see them get messed up and this is entertainment.
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January 01, 2022, 08:52:43 AM
No wonder there are fighters who chose to be cocky, do they get more pay thru it?

Floyd is extraordinary which the boxing fans really like to see him inside the ring due to his unique style. No boxer yet has found a way to see his weakness even today but do you think he can ask for higher pay once his record shows 1 loss?

Just like Logan, more people will want to see him fight and he could get a lot of money for each fight. Boxing and MMA are benefitting from what he is doing I think he still will get good money as long as he is youtube sensation.
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December 31, 2021, 05:08:17 PM
No way a fighter spends more than he or she can earn and spend it in a training camp.  And afaik, the trainers get a percentage of the fighters’ purse as per agreement.  Cos if fighters spend more than they can earn on training then we wouldn’t have the early prelim cards.  Lol.  There wouldn’t be fighters who can afford to be in the UFC.
No they are not spending more than they are earning, but most of them are just surviving doing one of the most dangerous combat sport on earth.
I watched some interviews and fighters spoke how much they pay for fight camps, and it's lot more money than you think.
Higher ranked fighters does earn much more if they are unbeatable like Khabib or if they trashtalk like McGregor did in his prime.

No they’re not and I was just trying to point that out from your other post when you said UFC fighters spend more for training camps than what they earn in the UFC.  That’s just plain wrong.  And to think about it, the prelim boxers have it way worse cos a lot of them earn 1k, less than 1k and they have to pay for training camp and travel themselves...  And worse of it is they have to scrounge around for sponsors.  In the UFC, it’s all taken care off by the company.



And that 10k is just from Venum, Crypto.com and Monster energy drink.  The UFC pays an average of around 25k to 30k for early prelim fighters, double at prelims.  So all in all not bad compared to boxing that pays just 1k for new fighters.
Boxers don't have middleman and they don't work for anyone so they are getting complete payment, not just percentage from deal.
They can have any sponsors they choose, and they don't have to pay many coaches for all different sports.
Dana White is saying that MMA fighters earn more but that was expected to hear from him, but UFC is top league so fighters in other organization earn much less.

Floyd Mayweather earned more than $560 million
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Conor McGregor earned around  $15 million

We’re talking about your average boxer and UFC fighter here...  And that’s the point, boxing pay is top heavy.  The top guys get paid millions while the little guys at the bottom have almost nothing.  And Mayweather is an outlier.  The guy is a smart businessman and has his promotions company behind him...  Not all boxers are like him.  I mean how much did Tyson Fury earn for his bout vs Wilder?  I don’t think he’ll be raking in as much as Mayweather.

But the thing is, do I think UFC fighters should get paid more?  Of course I do.  But to say that your average UFC fighter isn’t getting paid enough to pay for training camp is just plain wrong.

Edit:  Happy New Year everybody!!!
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December 31, 2021, 02:22:11 PM
I suggest you to search YouTube for the year 2021 ufc highlights. Or watch active fighters career review. Dont know if you are celebrating New Year rigtr now behind the table and family, but if not and TV is no occupied, you can always turb on ufc tv  Cheesy

When I start to feel that I miss ufc, i watch some old fight or knockout compilation. I dont feel like watching whole 5*5 round fight, but top10 knockouts is always fun to watch.
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December 31, 2021, 01:36:25 PM
I don't like Jake Paul and his circus acts, but he proved my words that boxers do earn more than MMA fighters and he knocked out two times ex UFC champion doing that.
It would be much different result if the fight was in octagon with full MMA rules, but they both agreed on boxing rules for this fights.

Happy New Year to all UFC and MMA fans and I hope we are going to see good action in 2022 first even starting on January 15!

Yeah, I'll give credit to Jake Paul for not only beating Woodley twice, but doing it in style on the second go of it. I'm a little bit disappointed in Woodley, but at the end of the day it was pretty clear he was there to collect a pay check, and probably doesn't overly care about the result. Though, I expect he's quite annoyed he got embarrassed by Jake Paul, and that'll forever be on his record.

January 15th will be a welcome sight, I've been missing my UFC. Its the only thing that's missing in my holidays.
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December 31, 2021, 01:30:09 PM
It annoys me as a fan, I can't imagine how annoyed MMA fighters are to see that people like Jake Paul who are completely new to the sport are making more money in one fight than most UFC fighters will ever hold in their careers. Its quite sickening, I'm not sure if that's Dana's fault though or if its just the ridiculous amount of money that Boxing has come to spend.
I don't like Jake Paul and his circus acts, but he proved my words that boxers do earn more than MMA fighters and he knocked out two times ex UFC champion doing that.
It would be much different result if the fight was in octagon with full MMA rules, but they both agreed on boxing rules for this fights.

Happy New Year to all UFC and MMA fans and I hope we are going to see good action in 2022 first even starting on January 15!
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