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October 04, 2021, 09:19:43 AM
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Well, in Thiago Santos case he is really a counter puncher, that is why he is waiting for Walker to strike, not an ideal style in MMA, but if this could be boxing then this could be a different story, in regards to the coach I am just speculating things, well Johnny Walker has changed his style because he now has John Kavanagh as his coach, I think there is a huge connection between the two, but as I said this is all speculation, on what has to change Walker's fighting style.
Thiago Santos and Johnny Walker are aggressive fighters who look for a knockout with every punch they throw and not counter punchers, but in this fight there were aware of their reputation and both were cautious and so is the reason it was a boring fight even though i expected to have some fireworks and Johnny Walker who usually starts aggressive was a shell of his old self and the new coaching camp did not help him one bit.

Both Thiago Santos and Johnny Walker were not willing to take any risk and we saw a fight that we could forget in no time.

Well, we all have our speculation on what happens in the fight, I really think that Thiago is a counter puncher sometimes, and he can also be aggressive, but being cautious on the ring is not really Johnny Walkers style, and you are right that his camp didn't really help him one bit if he can surely dump his coaching camp the sooner the better because I really like to see him again with his old self, but the faints might help him in other matches, but if he could see an opening an aggressive approach might be better.

Kevin Holland VS Kyle Daukaus

I have to discuss this fight and I have recently watched this, Kevin Holland a fighter that really wants to be active inside the octagon has fought on March 20, 2021, and immediately on April 10, 2021, that both was a loss, and in this recent fight a No Contest one because of the accidental clash of their heads that have knocked Holland unconscious, when I have seen how Holland handle the situation with a sportsmanship manner I have become a fan, I really like a fighter with a humble personality, I really think he can still make it when he does not stop with his career, and the way he funnily commented DC on how long it is I really think he is a humble and funny guy, I would surely love to see him fight again.

it was scary to watch both santos and walker got inside the cage,  i knew one could drop instantly but the two show they can be very careful to last til the decision. expectation not met but enjoyed it.

been a fan of holland too since the time he knocked someone while on the ground, i think he did this twice in his career in mma.

i was really expecting him to win in that match if it werent for that accidental headbutt, i think he will really win. he handled it well despite it.  we'll be seeing him again.
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October 04, 2021, 05:11:24 AM
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Well, in Thiago Santos case he is really a counter puncher, that is why he is waiting for Walker to strike, not an ideal style in MMA, but if this could be boxing then this could be a different story, in regards to the coach I am just speculating things, well Johnny Walker has changed his style because he now has John Kavanagh as his coach, I think there is a huge connection between the two, but as I said this is all speculation, on what has to change Walker's fighting style.
Thiago Santos and Johnny Walker are aggressive fighters who look for a knockout with every punch they throw and not counter punchers, but in this fight there were aware of their reputation and both were cautious and so is the reason it was a boring fight even though i expected to have some fireworks and Johnny Walker who usually starts aggressive was a shell of his old self and the new coaching camp did not help him one bit.

Both Thiago Santos and Johnny Walker were not willing to take any risk and we saw a fight that we could forget in no time.

Well, we all have our speculation on what happens in the fight, I really think that Thiago is a counter puncher sometimes, and he can also be aggressive, but being cautious on the ring is not really Johnny Walkers style, and you are right that his camp didn't really help him one bit if he can surely dump his coaching camp the sooner the better because I really like to see him again with his old self, but the faints might help him in other matches, but if he could see an opening an aggressive approach might be better.

Kevin Holland VS Kyle Daukaus

I have to discuss this fight and I have recently watched this, Kevin Holland a fighter that really wants to be active inside the octagon has fought on March 20, 2021, and immediately on April 10, 2021, that both was a loss, and in this recent fight a No Contest one because of the accidental clash of their heads that have knocked Holland unconscious, when I have seen how Holland handle the situation with a sportsmanship manner I have become a fan, I really like a fighter with a humble personality, I really think he can still make it when he does not stop with his career, and the way he funnily commented DC on how long it is I really think he is a humble and funny guy, I would surely love to see him fight again.
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October 04, 2021, 02:14:11 AM
@OgNasty. I reckon Paddy the Baddy would win. Sugar Sean is only good versus fighters who do not wrestle or versus those fighters who are not good wrestlers. He is similar to Kevin Holland. I want Dana to test his pet Sugar Sean against Merab Dvalishvili.

Well, the first issue we have here is that they do not fight at the same weight. With how much Pimblet balloons after weigh-ins and Sean does not, I'd reckon the difference would be considreble. O'Malley works well due to his range and how lengthy he is for his weight class. That being said, if they did fight in the same weight class (fantasy MMA) I would give an advantage to O'Malley as Pimblett is too reckless and leaves too much room for Sean to capitalize with his more thought-out and levelheaded fighting style.
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October 04, 2021, 02:13:12 AM
UFC Fight Night: Dern vs. Rodriguez



Date: OCTOBER 9 , 2021
Main Card: SAT, OCT 9 / 11:00 PM EEST
Prelims: SAT, OCT 9 / 8:00 PM EEST

Venue: UFC Apex

Main card (ESPN / ESPN+)
Women’s Strawweight: Mackenzie Dern vs. Marina Rodriguez            
Welterweight: Randy Brown vs. Jared Gooden            
Flyweight: Tim Elliott vs. Matheus Nicolau            
Women's Flyweight: Sabina Mazo vs. Mariya Agapova            
Middleweight: Phil Hawes vs. Deron Winn   
         
Preliminary card (ESPN2 / ESPN+)
Bantamweight: Chris Gutiérrez vs. Felipe Colares            
Middleweight: Jamie Pickett vs. Laureano Staropoli            
Heavyweight: Alexandr Romanov vs. Jared Vanderaa            
Featherweight: Charles Rosa vs. Damon Jackson            
Women's Strawweight: Lupita Godinez vs. Sam Hughes            
Lightweight: Steve Garcia vs. Charlie Ontiveros

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UFC_Fight_Night:_Dern_vs._Rodriguez
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October 04, 2021, 12:08:11 AM
@OgNasty. I reckon Paddy the Baddy would win. Sugar Sean is only good versus fighters who do not wrestle or versus those fighters who are not good wrestlers. He is similar to Kevin Holland. I want Dana to test his pet Sugar Sean against Merab Dvalishvili.
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October 03, 2021, 07:42:46 PM
I just heard that the sugar show is on for December 11th. Looking forward to seeing him fight again. I’d really love to see him matchup with Paddy the Baddy down the line, but I don’t know if he’ll be able to put on that much weight for a fight and still be competitive. We’ll see… I think Sugar has this one on the 11th though. Might have to drop a few on the up and coming YouTube.
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October 03, 2021, 02:18:31 PM
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Well, in Thiago Santos case he is really a counter puncher, that is why he is waiting for Walker to strike, not an ideal style in MMA, but if this could be boxing then this could be a different story, in regards to the coach I am just speculating things, well Johnny Walker has changed his style because he now has John Kavanagh as his coach, I think there is a huge connection between the two, but as I said this is all speculation, on what has to change Walker's fighting style.
Thiago Santos and Johnny Walker are aggressive fighters who look for a knockout with every punch they throw and not counter punchers, but in this fight there were aware of their reputation and both were cautious and so is the reason it was a boring fight even though i expected to have some fireworks and Johnny Walker who usually starts aggressive was a shell of his old self and the new coaching camp did not help him one bit.

Both Thiago Santos and Johnny Walker were not willing to take any risk and we saw a fight that we could forget in no time.
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October 03, 2021, 11:45:49 AM
Thiago Santos VS Johnny Walker
I am really happy that Thiago Santos win, but seeing how Johnny Walker performs have saddened me, I really think that Johnny Walker can even show more in this fight but he needs to be aggressive in this fight because Santos is a counter puncher, what Walker did was just throw faints at Santos, At first I thought I have seen a new style for Johnny Walker but I don't know if it is because of his coach John Kavanagh to blame on Walkers change in pace, I know I have bet for Santos, But seeing a fighter changing that quick in his style and what Walker needed in the fight I think it is not enough, but anyway, Thiago Santos won so congrats to both fighters,
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Playing this much passive cost Walker the match. He should have been playing more aggressively than what he was playing. I did not enjoy the match as much, both the players played very passively and I personally don't like that. I like aggressive matches. Maybe his coach is to blame. I think his previous playstyle was better than his current one. Let's see if things change in his next fight.

Well, in Thiago Santos case he is really a counter puncher, that is why he is waiting for Walker to strike, not an ideal style in MMA, but if this could be boxing then this could be a different story, in regards to the coach I am just speculating things, well Johnny Walker has changed his style because he now has John Kavanagh as his coach, I think there is a huge connection between the two, but as I said this is all speculation, on what has to change Walker's fighting style.
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October 03, 2021, 11:07:46 AM
Thiago Santos VS Johnny Walker
I am really happy that Thiago Santos win, but seeing how Johnny Walker performs have saddened me, I really think that Johnny Walker can even show more in this fight but he needs to be aggressive in this fight because Santos is a counter puncher, what Walker did was just throw faints at Santos, At first I thought I have seen a new style for Johnny Walker but I don't know if it is because of his coach John Kavanagh to blame on Walkers change in pace, I know I have bet for Santos, But seeing a fighter changing that quick in his style and what Walker needed in the fight I think it is not enough, but anyway, Thiago Santos won so congrats to both fighters,
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Playing this much passive cost Walker the match. He should have been playing more aggressively than what he was playing. I did not enjoy the match as much, both the players played very passively and I personally don't like that. I like aggressive matches. Maybe his coach is to blame. I think his previous playstyle was better than his current one. Let's see if things change in his next fight.
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October 03, 2021, 08:54:30 AM
Thiago Santos VS Johnny Walker

I am really happy that Thiago Santos win, but seeing how Johnny Walker performs have saddened me, I really think that Johnny Walker can even show more in this fight but he needs to be aggressive in this fight because Santos is a counter puncher, what Walker did was just throw faints at Santos, At first I thought I have seen a new style for Johnny Walker but I don't know if it is because of his coach John Kavanagh to blame on Walkers change in pace, I know I have bet for Santos, But seeing a fighter changing that quick in his style and what Walker needed in the fight I think it is not enough, but anyway, Thiago Santos won so congrats to both fighters,

Antonina Shevchenko VS Casey O'Neill

O'Neill is a real beast in the woman's division, and judging from that fight she really dominated Shevchenko no doubt about it, with experience, technique, and the all-rounder style of O'Neill really prevail in that fight, I guess a couple of fights more and Casey O'Neill could sure get a title shot that she deserves.
Yes Johnny Walker was not aggressive enough and looked a bit down in this fight, he was looking bit down on confidence and that saddenned me as well.
I really hope in the next fight he come back with more intent and more aggression.

I may have bet for Thiago Santos, but I really expected more from his opponent, there is no impact with every strike on Johnny Walker and the thing is there are many faints that surely not needed, I really wish he could have struck more to even the score I think he needs to be aggressive with Thiago Santos, I don't know for sure but his coach John Kavanagh might be behind his sudden change, but I may be wrong, but that coach of Conor McGregor really did change McGregor style aswell and fighters that needs to stick on their own style are deprive with the intension of really winning, but that is just my opinion, that is not Johnny Walker we are seeing in the octagon, but still Thiago Santos did his best and I am happy about it.
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October 03, 2021, 06:13:59 AM
Thiago Santos VS Johnny Walker

I am really happy that Thiago Santos win, but seeing how Johnny Walker performs have saddened me, I really think that Johnny Walker can even show more in this fight but he needs to be aggressive in this fight because Santos is a counter puncher, what Walker did was just throw faints at Santos, At first I thought I have seen a new style for Johnny Walker but I don't know if it is because of his coach John Kavanagh to blame on Walkers change in pace, I know I have bet for Santos, But seeing a fighter changing that quick in his style and what Walker needed in the fight I think it is not enough, but anyway, Thiago Santos won so congrats to both fighters,

Antonina Shevchenko VS Casey O'Neill

O'Neill is a real beast in the woman's division, and judging from that fight she really dominated Shevchenko no doubt about it, with experience, technique, and the all-rounder style of O'Neill really prevail in that fight, I guess a couple of fights more and Casey O'Neill could sure get a title shot that she deserves.
Yes Johnny Walker was not aggressive enough and looked a bit down in this fight, he was looking bit down on confidence and that saddenned me as well.
I really hope in the next fight he come back with more intent and more aggression.
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October 03, 2021, 06:12:11 AM
Thiago Santos VS Johnny Walker

I am really happy that Thiago Santos win, but seeing how Johnny Walker performs have saddened me, I really think that Johnny Walker can even show more in this fight but he needs to be aggressive in this fight because Santos is a counter puncher, what Walker did was just throw faints at Santos, At first I thought I have seen a new style for Johnny Walker but I don't know if it is because of his coach John Kavanagh to blame on Walkers change in pace, I know I have bet for Santos, But seeing a fighter changing that quick in his style and what Walker needed in the fight I think it is not enough, but anyway, Thiago Santos won so congrats to both fighters,

Antonina Shevchenko VS Casey O'Neill

O'Neill is a real beast in the woman's division, and judging from that fight she really dominated Shevchenko no doubt about it, with experience, technique, and the all-rounder style of O'Neill really prevail in that fight, I guess a couple of fights more and Casey O'Neill could sure get a title shot that she deserves.
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October 03, 2021, 03:18:57 AM
I liked how de Andrade chopped Pirrello. Pirrello was loading his left leg for a kick, and de Andrade caught he off balanced and smashed him. This guy is 27-4 with 20 KO. Strange to see him only in prelims.

Antonina Shevchenko might be very insecure to be the big sister of Valentina.

Antoninas opponent was just to good for her. O'Neill is 8-0 in MMA.

Daukaus vs Holland was a good fight. When Kyle dazed Kevin with head clash, instead of going for submission, he should have GnP him. Kevin had little time to recover, but all these submission attempt from Kyle only helped Kevin to survive. Video replay saved Hollands record from 0-3 and opportunity of being fired.

I dont like main fight. Both fighters had a lot of KO finishers in their career and I was expecting a KO.
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October 03, 2021, 02:50:06 AM
Antonina Shevchenko might be very insecure to be the big sister of Valentina the goat UFC champion of the women’s flyweight division. It might be similar to being the older brother of Elon Musk, however, the older brother’s business is only a furniture shop hehehehe.
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October 03, 2021, 01:26:15 AM
And we have the full results



Santos did himself no favors by having an uneventful decision to fight against Walker. I mean, he won, but you know you have to do something a bit extra to make the UFC brass do favorable matchmaking in the future. Also, O’Malley vs. Paiva was added to UFC 269. O'Malley is moving at a snail's pace with his career XD
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October 02, 2021, 03:28:24 PM
My predictions for the event,  Shanna Young, Devonte Smith, Casey O’Neil, Karol Rosa,  Joe Solecki, Alexander Hernandez, Misha Cirkunov and i am not expecting Alex Oliveira vs Niko Price to go the distance, then we have Kevin Holland fighting again but i am going with Kyle Daukaus.

The main even is a big confusing to pick. I expect it to be a great fight. I want to go with Thiago Santos.
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October 02, 2021, 03:13:34 PM
UFC fight night is starting early this time and prelims have some interesting fights with Antonina Shevchenko vs Casey O'Neill that has perfect 7-0 record.
I think main event should not be missed, Johnny Walker looked very focused during face-offs, and I am still not sure who will win tonight.


https://twitter.com/UFCEurope/status/1444347697062887428
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October 02, 2021, 11:52:05 AM

Thiago Santos vs. Johnny Walker is gonna be a match fight. i'm a fan of walker though, he is also bigger than Santos. it's just a matter of who gets to throw and hit hard and throw a volume of punches after. i'm not seeing this fight to end on the ground so someone must really drop dead.

Yup! it will surely be a striking match between these two, and this will be a fight on who's going to throw a devastating blow, and who's the volume puncher, many will be betting with the TKO/KO win and both fighters have a tendency to really takeout his opponent with a KO/TKO.


Antonina Shevchenko vs. Casey O'Neill, the young O'Neill is likely to win but i'm not betting in this fight. been following Kevin Big mouth so will also bet for him. he has to win this time, it's going to be 3rd time. Dana will give up on him if he continues to lose, this got to be a motivation for him to win.

I want to bet on the match that I think I am sure about, so I will be betting with O'Neill winning this if not with submission with TKO/OK if her striking improves a lot this time.
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October 02, 2021, 10:44:54 AM
Thiago Santos vs. Johnny Walker

I guess Johnny Walker has a stylistic style that can surely pressure Thiago Santos, but I think that Thiago Santos has durability with his chin to withstand strikes from Walker and I can not say the same with Johnny Walker if Santos could catch him and land a strike on him this could end Walker, I really think that this is not going for the distance and a lot of fans are betting that it could be a TKO and I think I agree, odds for this fight is 1.65 for Thiago Santos and 2.30 for Johnny Walker that is why I will go with the hype and I really like Thiago Santos personality that why my pick is Thiago Santos.

Antonina Shevchenko vs. Casey O'Neill

For this, I surely don't have any clue about Shevchenko and I am pretty skeptical if she is a pure striker or turning to be grappler because there are fights that but Shevchenko is good at striking, and for Casey O'neil she is a better grappler but not that good with striking but I may be wrong because she might improve that with her training and could get on par with Antonina Shevchenko, and if she does then she is an all-rounder for this event, but she is a good Grappler in this division, and so the odds are, 2.85 for Antonina Shevchenko and 1.45 for Casey O'Neill, I really like the fight on the ground for O'Neill and I think this is what will pressure Shevchenko that is why I will go with Casey O'Neil with this pick.

Thiago Santos vs. Johnny Walker is gonna be a match fight. i'm a fan of walker though, he is also bigger than Santos. it's just a matter of who gets to throw and hit hard and throw a volume of punches after. i'm not seeing this fight to end on the ground so someone must really drop dead.

Antonina Shevchenko vs. Casey O'Neill, the young O'Neill is likely to win but i'm not betting in this fight. been following Kevin Big mouth so will also bet for him. he has to win this time, it's going to be 3rd time. Dana will give up on him if he continues to lose, this got to be a motivation for him to win.
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October 02, 2021, 10:33:21 AM
^  I think after Hooker, if he wins, he’d then be matched up with the winner of Gaethje vs Chandler.  And if he wins that, then the title.  Poirier is kinda out of the mix for the time being for choosing a McGregor trilogy.  And with the money he made, we won’t be seeing him for a little while.  Lol.

Anyway, Aspen Ladd is out.   She looked really bad at weigh in.  She couldn’t stand on her own.  This happened twice to her now.

UFC Vegas FN 38:  Face offs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCR-8rTmQTU

UFC Vegas FN 38:  Weigh in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUEINH8x7cE
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